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X22 Report claims Trump can void most of the national debt thanks to the 14th Amendment. How true is that? (twitter.com) 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 92 days ago by BetterNameUnfound 92 days ago by BetterNameUnfound +162 / -0
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– Lupinate 36 points 92 days ago +36 / -0

Neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; all such debts, obligations, and claims shall be held illegal and void. -14th, section 4

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– deleted 6 points 91 days ago +6 / -0
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– DBEMarine 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

I think this is how MOASS plays out. They use MOASS to transfer the wealth back to the people. Yeah not everyone is going to get a slice of that pie, but how are you going to just give everyone in America their fair share back? Then if you don't get rid of the greedy corporations, at least the people that run them, then they will just raise that prices and take it all back any way.

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– Joe_Medicine_Crow 4 points 91 days ago +4 / -0

There's never going to be another short squeeze until short selling is banned and the "halt button" is taken away from the money changers.

Also stopping the dirty crybaby tactic of shutting down the buy or sell buttons to the population of traders when the market goes in a direction these cheaters don't like.

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– SOGWAP 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

Perhapsbwe shouldnt absorb the debt of a corporation either.

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– GDZeus 21 points 92 days ago +21 / -0

Fraud vitiates everything

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– 2ndenthusiast 10 points 92 days ago +10 / -0

u/#classywow

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– Dumbass101 14 points 92 days ago +14 / -0

Hi Dave! 🤓

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– BetterNameUnfound [S] 15 points 92 days ago +15 / -0

Oh, I WISH I was as smart as him.

I just stumbled upon this tweet and thought "Wait, can he do that?"

So I shared it here, so people smarter than me could show me if there was truth to this, or if it was just verisimilitude.

No, I am NOT using your dumbed-down word "truthiness," Colbert.

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– Warhammer6 12 points 92 days ago +12 / -0

Any bloke who can use the word verisimilitude as effectively as you is, in my book, very clever indeed!

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– TinkAnon 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

A word I just learned with this post. 😃 Not sure if I will use it. It doesn’t seem like an easy word to use. Thanks.

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– Factfiler 13 points 92 days ago +13 / -0

Dave is the best!

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– samlopes900se-2 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

I used to watch X22 all the time. Then I realized how often he was saying "I do believe" and it got to me so much I stopped. I started listening again recently in the car and it seems he may have gotten away from it. Maybe it's because the plan is way more clear now and it's much less a matter of belief or faith. Regardless his show does rock!

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– ozthentic 8 points 92 days ago +8 / -0

TRUMP April 2022. "If you are a bank robber or you are a jewelry store robber and you go into Tiffany's and steal their diamonds and get CAUGHT you have to give their diamonds BACK" He told us then what he was about to do!!!!

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– changeagent 8 points 92 days ago +8 / -0

Reminiscent of the Brunson case... Too good to be true. This would alienate the US. If you apply it to one, you'd have to apply it to all. Not that I mind being alienated, but the general population would not survive the turbulence.

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– TTrain237DDriver 11 points 92 days ago +11 / -0

Not if they go drip drip drip like they have with the Epstein stuff. Once 2020 fraud sufficient to overturn the election is proven, they can start with the most egregious stuff first.

USAID.

Learing Centers.

Grants to fund Antifa street violence.

Release the Receipts, let the normies soak them in, then do the next one...

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– Suidlander 3 points 92 days ago +3 / -0

If Chatham House/CBs died first, & the minion countries got their debt absolved to, pedal down 100%

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– Sparhawk60 7 points 92 days ago +7 / -0

Make it so...

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– TheHumanPrimer 5 points 91 days ago +5 / -0

Two Comments

  1. If you read both books entirely... well, it will shock you at all the crazy and insane laws they describe. If we enforced only one out of the entire chapter then wouldn't all of them then be fair game to enact? Dangerous ground.

  2. Easier path is to prove, once and for all, Obama was never eligible to be President because he was a citizen of Kenya. Nullify his Presidency and everything he did while President was illegal and thus immediately voided. Same thing might happen to Biden for entirely different reasons but the same effect. BOOM.

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– Wellifthisaintdandy 5 points 92 days ago +5 / -0

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

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– Mr_A 3 points 92 days ago +3 / -0

Doesn't sound right to me. If some of the debt holders used the funds against the US, sure. But there are (I imagine) many holders of US Gov't debt that aren't in that category. Good for a partial debt nullification, though.

I think the EO has more teeth. If, say, China participated in a takedown of the US, that EO theoretically allows the USA to seize all of China's assets. That sounds logistically difficult, but the EO is broad, so I think that's a better route to recover assets, to pay off whatever's left.

Another route I thought of is to replace the fed note with Treasury bills, and then devalue fed notes (with the national debt being denominated in fed notes) such that it's worthless, and then pay off the debt for peanuts.

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– Malachi3vs16 2 points 92 days ago +2 / -0

if Pres. Trump declared a Jubilee year based on the Books of Moses, there’s general specifications how to do this. I think the Supreme Court ight just have to go along with it. (a short look at Leviticus 25 and Deuteronomy chapter 15 brief at the end. after the judicial view)

But they might have their judicial opinions:

an originalist judicial philosophy could lead a couple of the justices to rule this move “invalid” as the intent of the writers and adopters might be seen as targeted at Confederate debt

The first sentence of section 4 states that the validity of the public of the United States authorized… shall not be questioned — right there they are not looking at JPMorganChase Rockefeller, Roth, the child Bush Clinton, and all the wars as being done as the globalist conspiracy to destroy the USA and leave. the USA as debt slaves.

Justice Thomas, natural law theory: he might view the government’s debt as a binding, moral and legal contract that cannot be arbitrarily dissolved by a single branch of government.

it’s been a while since I’ve read the judicial philosophies, but with a little AI show, this is what I think, the conservative judges and their law clerks might think. (this does not include Chief Justice Roberts who can go swim around Antarctica without a life jacket for all the lives lost under Obummercare) ——

Leviticus 25:8-13 liberty is proclaimed. Every person returns to their ancestral land and family..

Deuteronomy 15:1-2 that was different back then a family could not sell their land forever. It could only be leased or given out for a number of years up until the next Jubilee, so they did not exactly occur personal debts, the way, contemporary Americans borrow and do mortgages (mort = death & gage = pledge)

On balance, the Jubileein American context might be that the entire Federal Reserve system with fiat paper & electronic ledger currency is fraud,

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– Mountaingale 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

The Federal Reserve System is indeed fraud. Our Constitution says that Congress shall coin our money, and the current system is a Ponzi scheme. It only exists because they murdered everyone who seriously got in their way.

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– RadicalCapitalist 2 points 91 days ago +2 / -0

Dave has a lot of good insight on many things, but his grasp of economics is juvenile and he tends to not think too deeply into the consequences of things. If the US were to default on debt, it isn't like some dude in Asia specifically purchased fraudulent debt from Biden and Obama and we can just screw him - it is more like a significant portion of savers and investors in the whole planet hold US Treasury debt instruments as assets and if they were to be defaulted upon, chaos would ensue and individuals and pension funds and everyone in between would be going belly-up....

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– magavoices 2 points 92 days ago +2 / -0

I'm all for cancelling the debt.

How would it work? The US currently incurs the debt by issuing treasury bonds.

If we say "we're cancelling 11 trillion of debt incurred since Obama was first elected, minus Trump's terms", functionally the only way to handle that would be to honor some of the T-bills that were issued, and cancel others?

Sounds way too messy. I foresee allowing the currency fail, replacing federal reserve notes with US issued currency, would be way less messy than picking and choosing which T-bills to honor.

China has about 3.5 trillion in US reserve currency, we could certainly cancel all that because their actions against the US were an act of war.

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– Mountaingale 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

I like the idea of invoking the executive order about seizing the assets of those who violated human rights. That could pay the national debt right there.

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– orangetastic1 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

We could solve it with a series of cage matches.

Two biggest debt holders send representatives to fight. Whoever loses has their debt voided. Work our way down the list until a sizeable percentage is paid off.

The rest we can pay off with selling tickets and the pay per view revenue.

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– Revodude 2 points 92 days ago +2 / -0

Interesting! But probably not all of the debt, but a sizable chunk of it.

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– HotMustard84 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

Others will see it as default

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

  1. Reparation = out of the window.
  2. Insurrection or Rebellion =>

I would consider no 2 the most viable road for Dave's claim IF, and the evidence is quite clear, supposing it clears the bar of reasonable doubt, this whole matter is viewed through the lens of the war against the City of London.

Then all of a sudden, it makes perfect sense, and it goes way back ...It could be argued, back to any President assassinated who would dare change the debt slave system.

I would add though there is a corollary:

The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

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– schiff_for_brains 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

All debts are paid, either by the debtor or the lender.

So where is all this repayment going to come from? ie, you have to not pay someone back to cancel the debt.

Unless you can identify the debt, name the debt holder and explain their connection to the insurrection this is just a pipe dream.

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– m0r1arty 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

Source would be nice :)

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– CaptainChrisPBacon 1 point 92 days ago +1 / -0

It sounds like you need to ask X22 what he is basing his information on.

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– deleted 1 point 92 days ago +1 / -0
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– eagledriver 1 point 91 days ago +1 / -0

WOWZA!!!!!! I would HAZARD a guess here that the CONGCRITTERS ARE GOING TO GET THEIR COMEUPPENCE IN A WAY THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE!!!!!...DEBT CANCELLED AND "some" people going to the hoosegow!!!!

OHHHH MY!!!!!!! That is why BOTH sides of the aisle are NOT looking in the right direction and when the BAM HAMMER does comes down...some are going to lose what brain-matter they have...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁😁😁😁😁

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