AI requires an expert to run it and check it's work for blatent, jaw dropping mistakes. These scumbags are saying this bullshit to prop up their own businesses. This is leading to so many bad things happening. The hoarding of computer chips being one of the worse things as well as the mass layoffs. This is gonna be a much bigger bubble pop than the others. Unless they have some plan to keep the grift going, the cracks in AI will become apparent to most within a year.
It can't replace someone. It is just another tool for a worker to work even harder.
It can replace people, just not in a direct, visible way. Artists like to support each other, not AI. So they go to a platform like Fiver to try to find a real artist. They see someone that looks decent and hires them for the commission. Turns out, the person they hired just just prompt generation. They could have hired a real artist, but instead, unknowingly and inadvertently, they hired AI instead
Artists will utilize the tools presented to them. And that's what this is.
If you can write a first draft of a novel from your personal outline in 3 minutes, then do a real rewrite, you've saved countless days, weeks or more. And it's still yours, you wrote it. But you've replaced the agonizing first step of the first draft.
Music-get rough drafts of your song ideas in minutes, and riff off of that. seriously, you know how many times I've been with a band that takes a month to even get a "scratch" version of one song idea? Now you can get a template to work off of in minutes.
Its not a tool, its a crutch. People are using it as a replacement for creativity. The harder you have to work on something the more value it has in your eyes. If JRR Tolkien used AI to "save time" on The Lord of the Rings it would be trash.
This is why its called Slop. It has almost no value because no effort was expended in its creation. Zero passion. Just numbers run through an expensive calculator so they can mimic the heights if human creativity.
I always find it funny... This reaction when you probably enjoy Marvel movies and the aforementioned Lord of the Rings. {And that's not a slag off, just they're heavily CGI.}
And I'm sure Cgi is fine with you , right? Green screen? Pro tools? Drum machines? Brian Eno? Kraftwerk? Sequencers? Samplers?
I don't know, how about the fucking industrial revolution?
Bottom line is it's always in how you use a tool whether it's a crutch or not. If you use it to get a rough draft from your original material, I fail to see the harm in it. Because it's not creating your "art" it's streamlining the process for you.
Well, if the person was able to get something professional that others like then they're an artist. Wether you're using 3d software, paintbrush, or prompt. If you make art that others like and they give you money you are a professional artist. No one was replaced. Just a new artist has entered the workforce.
But an experienced artist with a great sense of composition, color, and framing will run circles around someone who doesn't understand any of those things.
In the end, a person still did the work. The AI didn't direct itself.
No they did. Making high quality AI that makes people want to watch or look at requires a lot of time. It always will.
This is what was said about 3D art back in the day. People thought it was the computer that did all the work. 4 decades later people know that a person builds everything. AI is the same concept. Matter of fact, your best results come with starting with a high quality hand drawn image or nicely constructed 3D model.
AI doesn't just make itself. Especially the generative stuff.
There has to be interaction between a human and Ai for the foreseeable future, IMHO. You have to write a prompt to extract the information. It’s just not there yet like EV’s. Gas prices up …we need moar EV’s. What’s cool is Tesla’s EV 18 Wheelers. But, it is estimated to be around 20,000 to 23,000 pounds, depending on the model. The truck is designed to carry a total weight of up to 82,000 pounds, including its payload.
Is the US infrastructure built to withstand that weight? We’re just not there yet.
I hate to say this, but many of your assertions are incorrect.
Yes, AI requires someone to run it and especially for software development, a talented designer is ideal. But the 6 people that designer led are now no longer needed.
Most people are using the free versions of most AI tools. They do not understand how far ahead the paid versions are. I work for a multi-billion dollar enterprise software company. This year we will lay off 30% of our development staff because they're no longer needed because of Cursor and Claude.
Next year another 30% will be let go.
Yes, AI output requires some supervision but AI hallucinations have been dramatically reduced across most platforms.
People do not realize how fast these tools are improving. Whether this guy's prediction is correct or not, I don't know. There are other complexities than just AI's ability to replace people in the workplace.
But things are changing very rapidly, far more rapidly than most people realize.
They're laying off those people to save money and blaming AI. AI hallucinations haven't been reduced. They are part of how the underlying tensor systems work. You will always need supervision. And yes we use the enterprise versions of everything where I'm at. You are obviously not a developer.
Without a doubt, anything repetitive can be reduced by automation. But most companies have to continue to create and make new things that are different from before. So they will always have to supervise to make sure it's all been done correctly. AI can make a developer faster, but it is a huge mistake to think you can magically get by with fewer people and compete with other companies that have more people using the same tools.
The company with the most talented developers will win in that particular field.
I hope my company's competitors would get rid of their soldiers. We would own the industry.
Lots of short sited companies that don't understand how war works and how they've made themselves much less competitive.
I honestly didn't mean to insult you, but I don't know one developer that disagrees that AI needs a person to oversee everything you have it do or any programmer who disagrees with anything I just typed. I thought you were middle management. If you are not 100% on top of every character and line that AI writes for you, then you are going to let something through that's gonna be bad.
AI slop is everywhere and it's coming from mid level programmers who think that AI is allowing them to do bigger and better things, but it's gonna end in tears and already has in some public domain code bases.
Being a programmer who was told last year to start using github copilot, and someone who had tried to use chatgpt personally to try to vibe code as well....
It's great at boilerplate code for little pieces. It's absolutely dogwater at trying to build a complete architecture. It often gets lost in the sauce and loses key details. Loses meaningful connections that causes bugs. And if the coder isn't experienced, they won't be able to track down the bugs to fix the issues...
I find it most helpful when starting a new project. I find it absolutely awful on a project already more than a month or so, old, unless filling in hundreds of similar fields in a single class. It can see the previous lines in a file and then you can Tab Enter Tab Enter Tab Enter Tab Enter and it'll slowly fill in those hundreds of fields. Otherwise though, it isn't great at looking at the context of your specific code
I can definitely see this happening to some extent. Maybe not 50% may be no tin one year, but the decline will be quite visible.
Consultants will drop much more sharply, because most of what they do is BS and AI will give an alternate way to figure out its BS.
Note: Also these are the professionals that most gouge the people and don't really add value to the real economy. I would love to live in a world where there are very few lawyers and most people are well verses with the legal areas that affect them, where there are almost no consultants, except for really niche areas that require skills acquired only by experience, and finance becomes boiled down to fundamentals only.
The service industry will flourish meaning people with real skills. Carpentry, electricians, plumbers, iron works, landscapers, arborists, some farming, certain heath care professions with hands on skills for example dentists, surgeons, nurses.
Trump pushed vocational schools, trade schools, and technical schools and the reasons seem obvious now.
This is an incorrect assertion. The very first thing that most AI corps trained their AI algorithms on was programming. The idea was that if the AI can become adept at writing code, it could improve itself without throwing massive amounts of man hours at the problem.
AI's are improving rapidly and many of the major algorithms no longer have the majority of their code written by human beings.
AI isn't there yet... it's got a LONG way to go before it's "6 sigma" for ANYTHING that requires precision of language and critical details.
That includes law, medical, engineering and other disciplines where HUMAN LIVES hang in the balance.
No insurance actuaries are going to insure against AI phuckery until the track record has been WELL established and proofed out. This is the reality nobody is talking about...
So AI will have to be relegated to making slop videos for the foreseeable future...
So I watched the Prime movie “Mercy” . Crime up in LA in the future (🤣) population approves Ai Court. What could go wrong? I swear the WH’s are forcing PedoWood to make new movies “showing us” what’s going on
Recently, the CEO of the development studio that makes the game Subnautica had to go to court and practically fired his entire legal team. He went in armed with ChatGPT and left owing millions of dollars. AI is great for small concepts; questions that can be easily answered. Complex concepts prompts give answers that may appear right if you aren’t familiar with the subject. However, if you are educated on the subject matter you can see that it makes mistakes quite often.
The AI is not that good yet. Making glaring errors. I am predicting that teachers will be replaced in significant numbers. Conservative charter schools to pop up with conservative AI teachers and human aids in certain classes, especially the younger set. Some roving teachers for kids falling behind. My wife used to do that.
The problem with AI implementation is that it’s being rushed. There’s an augment period that’s not allowed to be developed where AI is not able to learn enough to take over.
AI is currently at an entry level/jr level capability. Mid to senior level hasn’t had the in depth time to transfer knowledge in a timely manner yet.
AI requires an expert to run it and check it's work for blatent, jaw dropping mistakes. These scumbags are saying this bullshit to prop up their own businesses. This is leading to so many bad things happening. The hoarding of computer chips being one of the worse things as well as the mass layoffs. This is gonna be a much bigger bubble pop than the others. Unless they have some plan to keep the grift going, the cracks in AI will become apparent to most within a year.
It can't replace someone. It is just another tool for a worker to work even harder.
It can replace people, just not in a direct, visible way. Artists like to support each other, not AI. So they go to a platform like Fiver to try to find a real artist. They see someone that looks decent and hires them for the commission. Turns out, the person they hired just just prompt generation. They could have hired a real artist, but instead, unknowingly and inadvertently, they hired AI instead
Artists will utilize the tools presented to them. And that's what this is.
If you can write a first draft of a novel from your personal outline in 3 minutes, then do a real rewrite, you've saved countless days, weeks or more. And it's still yours, you wrote it. But you've replaced the agonizing first step of the first draft.
Music-get rough drafts of your song ideas in minutes, and riff off of that. seriously, you know how many times I've been with a band that takes a month to even get a "scratch" version of one song idea? Now you can get a template to work off of in minutes.
Its not a tool, its a crutch. People are using it as a replacement for creativity. The harder you have to work on something the more value it has in your eyes. If JRR Tolkien used AI to "save time" on The Lord of the Rings it would be trash.
This is why its called Slop. It has almost no value because no effort was expended in its creation. Zero passion. Just numbers run through an expensive calculator so they can mimic the heights if human creativity.
Fuck. That.
I always find it funny... This reaction when you probably enjoy Marvel movies and the aforementioned Lord of the Rings. {And that's not a slag off, just they're heavily CGI.}
And I'm sure Cgi is fine with you , right? Green screen? Pro tools? Drum machines? Brian Eno? Kraftwerk? Sequencers? Samplers?
I don't know, how about the fucking industrial revolution?
Bottom line is it's always in how you use a tool whether it's a crutch or not. If you use it to get a rough draft from your original material, I fail to see the harm in it. Because it's not creating your "art" it's streamlining the process for you.
CGI is different than AI generated and you fucking know it. Clown.
Found the Marvel idiot. ^
Aka, hypocrite.
Practical effects pioneers like Tom Savini and Rick Baker had to adapt to cgi because practical effects were being phased out. They had no choice.
That's my entire point. New tech comes, and you incorporate it into your workflow.
What you don't do is whinge about, clutching pearls.
Tim's Vermeer...
Well, if the person was able to get something professional that others like then they're an artist. Wether you're using 3d software, paintbrush, or prompt. If you make art that others like and they give you money you are a professional artist. No one was replaced. Just a new artist has entered the workforce.
But an experienced artist with a great sense of composition, color, and framing will run circles around someone who doesn't understand any of those things.
In the end, a person still did the work. The AI didn't direct itself.
They did NOT do the work. Thats the point.
No they did. Making high quality AI that makes people want to watch or look at requires a lot of time. It always will.
This is what was said about 3D art back in the day. People thought it was the computer that did all the work. 4 decades later people know that a person builds everything. AI is the same concept. Matter of fact, your best results come with starting with a high quality hand drawn image or nicely constructed 3D model.
AI doesn't just make itself. Especially the generative stuff.
There has to be interaction between a human and Ai for the foreseeable future, IMHO. You have to write a prompt to extract the information. It’s just not there yet like EV’s. Gas prices up …we need moar EV’s. What’s cool is Tesla’s EV 18 Wheelers. But, it is estimated to be around 20,000 to 23,000 pounds, depending on the model. The truck is designed to carry a total weight of up to 82,000 pounds, including its payload.
Is the US infrastructure built to withstand that weight? We’re just not there yet.
I hate to say this, but many of your assertions are incorrect.
Yes, AI requires someone to run it and especially for software development, a talented designer is ideal. But the 6 people that designer led are now no longer needed.
Most people are using the free versions of most AI tools. They do not understand how far ahead the paid versions are. I work for a multi-billion dollar enterprise software company. This year we will lay off 30% of our development staff because they're no longer needed because of Cursor and Claude.
Next year another 30% will be let go.
Yes, AI output requires some supervision but AI hallucinations have been dramatically reduced across most platforms.
People do not realize how fast these tools are improving. Whether this guy's prediction is correct or not, I don't know. There are other complexities than just AI's ability to replace people in the workplace.
But things are changing very rapidly, far more rapidly than most people realize.
They're laying off those people to save money and blaming AI. AI hallucinations haven't been reduced. They are part of how the underlying tensor systems work. You will always need supervision. And yes we use the enterprise versions of everything where I'm at. You are obviously not a developer.
Without a doubt, anything repetitive can be reduced by automation. But most companies have to continue to create and make new things that are different from before. So they will always have to supervise to make sure it's all been done correctly. AI can make a developer faster, but it is a huge mistake to think you can magically get by with fewer people and compete with other companies that have more people using the same tools.
The company with the most talented developers will win in that particular field.
I hope my company's competitors would get rid of their soldiers. We would own the industry.
Lots of short sited companies that don't understand how war works and how they've made themselves much less competitive.
"You are obviously not a developer."
I think that will about end my engagement with you.
I honestly didn't mean to insult you, but I don't know one developer that disagrees that AI needs a person to oversee everything you have it do or any programmer who disagrees with anything I just typed. I thought you were middle management. If you are not 100% on top of every character and line that AI writes for you, then you are going to let something through that's gonna be bad.
AI slop is everywhere and it's coming from mid level programmers who think that AI is allowing them to do bigger and better things, but it's gonna end in tears and already has in some public domain code bases.
Maybe your Indian. They love this shit.
My God what an utter, ignorant ass you are.
How sad. All you have are insults. So I guess you really are a Pajeet.
"All you have are insults"
A bit of introspection might be good for you.
Yup.
It's already happening.
Also, programmers are toast.
Being a programmer who was told last year to start using github copilot, and someone who had tried to use chatgpt personally to try to vibe code as well....
It's great at boilerplate code for little pieces. It's absolutely dogwater at trying to build a complete architecture. It often gets lost in the sauce and loses key details. Loses meaningful connections that causes bugs. And if the coder isn't experienced, they won't be able to track down the bugs to fix the issues...
I find it most helpful when starting a new project. I find it absolutely awful on a project already more than a month or so, old, unless filling in hundreds of similar fields in a single class. It can see the previous lines in a file and then you can Tab Enter Tab Enter Tab Enter Tab Enter and it'll slowly fill in those hundreds of fields. Otherwise though, it isn't great at looking at the context of your specific code
But, who will learn to code? LOL, wasn’t that the Libs ho to?
But our "leaders" told son many that were forced out of their jobs by, like, H1B''s that they needed to to learn to code. Now what?
Less lawyers is a good thing
There’s a joke there I just don’t remember it
I can definitely see this happening to some extent. Maybe not 50% may be no tin one year, but the decline will be quite visible.
Consultants will drop much more sharply, because most of what they do is BS and AI will give an alternate way to figure out its BS.
Note: Also these are the professionals that most gouge the people and don't really add value to the real economy. I would love to live in a world where there are very few lawyers and most people are well verses with the legal areas that affect them, where there are almost no consultants, except for really niche areas that require skills acquired only by experience, and finance becomes boiled down to fundamentals only.
A mentor once told me beware of the consultants - when the prefix of the words is “Con” you watch your wallet
I dont think the 12 months is correct but it will wipe them out.
DoW will wipe out 100% of Anthropic (in 24 months?) once it is publicly revealed (in court filings) that their secret controlling shareholder (via special Trust structure) is the Peoples' Liberation Army (PLA) of China: https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASG9cmS8N/breaking-down-anthropics-ownersh/c/
Less Lawyers and ‘Finance Professionals’ probably won’t be such a bad thing.
I think it is more than 50%....
The service industry will flourish meaning people with real skills. Carpentry, electricians, plumbers, iron works, landscapers, arborists, some farming, certain heath care professions with hands on skills for example dentists, surgeons, nurses.
Trump pushed vocational schools, trade schools, and technical schools and the reasons seem obvious now.
AI is as flawed as the humans that create it. And always will be.
This is an incorrect assertion. The very first thing that most AI corps trained their AI algorithms on was programming. The idea was that if the AI can become adept at writing code, it could improve itself without throwing massive amounts of man hours at the problem.
AI's are improving rapidly and many of the major algorithms no longer have the majority of their code written by human beings.
I'm of two minds about this.
AI isn't there yet... it's got a LONG way to go before it's "6 sigma" for ANYTHING that requires precision of language and critical details.
That includes law, medical, engineering and other disciplines where HUMAN LIVES hang in the balance.
No insurance actuaries are going to insure against AI phuckery until the track record has been WELL established and proofed out. This is the reality nobody is talking about...
So AI will have to be relegated to making slop videos for the foreseeable future...
u/#catdance
So I watched the Prime movie “Mercy” . Crime up in LA in the future (🤣) population approves Ai Court. What could go wrong? I swear the WH’s are forcing PedoWood to make new movies “showing us” what’s going on
Recently, the CEO of the development studio that makes the game Subnautica had to go to court and practically fired his entire legal team. He went in armed with ChatGPT and left owing millions of dollars. AI is great for small concepts; questions that can be easily answered. Complex concepts prompts give answers that may appear right if you aren’t familiar with the subject. However, if you are educated on the subject matter you can see that it makes mistakes quite often.
The AI is not that good yet. Making glaring errors. I am predicting that teachers will be replaced in significant numbers. Conservative charter schools to pop up with conservative AI teachers and human aids in certain classes, especially the younger set. Some roving teachers for kids falling behind. My wife used to do that.
The problem with AI implementation is that it’s being rushed. There’s an augment period that’s not allowed to be developed where AI is not able to learn enough to take over.
AI is currently at an entry level/jr level capability. Mid to senior level hasn’t had the in depth time to transfer knowledge in a timely manner yet.