I use those cheap TVs as a monitor hooked up to a Linux PC. All cameras get the tape treatment.
All "smart" functionality, the need to go through some service, app etc on the TV itself - got stabbed the first day with a rusty steak knife... I can do whatever I need to via web browser on the PC.
Unless you GOTTA have network TV or cable, it's the only way to go. Complete control over all your base.
A mini kidney bean Bluetooth kb/trackpad combo lets you even peruse GAW while laying in the crib...
You can use a windows box too or old lappy... fanless vesa mount, high performance ones are available cheap now...lock them down with WinAeroTweaker and run Brave+ plugins for zero commercials... How YOU doin?
Are you smarter than the corporate retards forcing you to do things their way?
You are wise, but all those words.......go right over my head. You gotta teach us knuckle draggers how to get out of our caves. This high tech "stuff"....I have a kid that tells me how to plug in stuff and which buttons to push. Now if you wanna build a house without plans, I'm your man. Tech is something I just cannot get my head wrapped around. But cutting a piece of wood with a hand saw, that's easy.
Thank you, TaQo. That Ford article was pretty enlightening. Yea, knowing how to code or extract information from a hand held device is a little difficult to figure out, I'm very satisfied that my house building skills are such that my house will never fall down around my head. I'd rather have house-security instead of knowing all the intricacies of a computer or smart phone. I think Mr. Ford would agree. Kek
"You no longer have to learn anything; you just find it. No context. No memorization. Just location. You can immediately forget all about it because if you need it again you can find it again."
Problem is they made it so legal content (shows and movies) you buy only play 480p when you play them on PC. They force you to use the TVs built in app for 4K.
I've literally got the Vizio POS they show in the pic from 1/2026 running @ 1920x1440 or whatever... certainly NOT 480.... I'm not a 4k/8k snob, so 1920 or whatever is fine by me...
However, YMMV - because they probably stock different stores with whatever slop tyry can get away with...
It'll run at 1920x1080 or perhaps even 3840x2160 but YouTube movies, Netflix, will refuse to play at anything higher than 480/720p when viewed on most PCs
Now that you mention it... I had an old, slow PC after i bought that Vizio and the Samsung died... and it wouldn't display or transmit sound correctly over HDMI. I was ready to pull my hair out..New fanless i5 PC with plenty of RAM - everything runs great no problem. So you gotta make sure your PC is fast enough for whatever reason...
It was immediately obvious to me the tvs were fucked with some data collection or ad revenue to offset the tv. Been a play for a long time. Same concept as cheap printers expensive ink.
That cell phone in your pocket is way worse than a television. It actively listens to your conversations even if you are not using it. Heck, I was once kidding with my wife about having a Tinder account. A couple of hours later my phone begins to tell me that "here is the Tinder page you requested". What!!!????.... something needs to be done about guaranteed privacy. My phone should not be constantly listening to me talk to other folks. Grrrrrrr
If you have any type of voice activation on a device, its always listening. All of my voice activations are uninstalled or disabled. I don't need it, nor do I want it. Finally managed to get the copilot uninstalled on my computer. It wouldn't allow me to do it before. The voice activated Cortina is also gone. I also go back periodically to check to make sure that something I disabled is still off or gone. They are getting sneaky with updates turning things back on or installing them.
I was telling my wife, we need to get her a pair of chaps for riding on my new motorcycle. We both had adds for over a year after that for leather gear.
We live in a society that seeks to monetize everything. Everything is becoming some sort of service or subscription based content. Yet quality consistently declines and we somehow still get screwed and pay out the ass.
Information in this day and age is the most valuable thing you have. It should be considered a general expectation that every company will eventually seek to monetize their consumers information. Regardless of the rhetoric they feed us publicly about privacy.
TCL unless they changed recently. I'm friends with a Walmart store manager and he told me that the ONN and TCL are the least returned brands they sell.
I use a streaming device (Roku, Firestick, Apple TV - choose your poison). Only Apple pledges to protect your privacy.
Visio has been caught TWICE spying on your home network and sending encrypted packets to China. My TV is nothing more than a projector of a product I trust more
I don't shop at Wal-Mart to begin with. Not impressed. Most of their stuff I wouldn't purchase anyway - especially the food. But I get it. Money is very tight for everyone these days.
I just let my grown kids keep buying themselves new this and my wife and take in the best of old ones. My house is entirely stocked in used tv's. Not a complaint or issue with any of them.
When my last TV finally took a dump, I didn't replace it. Don't really watch TV anyway. I'm mostly on my computer. Not a big movie watcher so I don't really miss it. I think it has been almost 10 years now. I had an old Sony TV that was almost 30 years old and the picture was great. That was the last TV I actually purchased. I had been given a few used widescreens from friends that bought new ones. But they only lasted a few years before they died too. So, I don't really care about it anymore. But I can appreciate not wanting all the new tech. Glad you're doing okay with the older stuff.
Some of these devices (phones, TVs, computers) are not really off when they're off. They are listening. We noticed that just talking about something in a room where there is a linked device prompts targeted ads for whatever we had been talking about.
The joke's on them...
I use those cheap TVs as a monitor hooked up to a Linux PC. All cameras get the tape treatment.
All "smart" functionality, the need to go through some service, app etc on the TV itself - got stabbed the first day with a rusty steak knife... I can do whatever I need to via web browser on the PC.
Unless you GOTTA have network TV or cable, it's the only way to go. Complete control over all your base.
A mini kidney bean Bluetooth kb/trackpad combo lets you even peruse GAW while laying in the crib...
You can use a windows box too or old lappy... fanless vesa mount, high performance ones are available cheap now...lock them down with WinAeroTweaker and run Brave+ plugins for zero commercials... How YOU doin?
Are you smarter than the corporate retards forcing you to do things their way?
Prove it...
u/#insomnia
You are wise, but all those words.......go right over my head. You gotta teach us knuckle draggers how to get out of our caves. This high tech "stuff"....I have a kid that tells me how to plug in stuff and which buttons to push. Now if you wanna build a house without plans, I'm your man. Tech is something I just cannot get my head wrapped around. But cutting a piece of wood with a hand saw, that's easy.
Just like Henry Ford... You don't need to know...
Just push a few buttons (on your phone) and summon the expert (your son) and have him set you up the way I described... He'll understand.
https://unwrittenbusinessguide.com/the-henry-ford-principle/
u/#catdance
Thank you, TaQo. That Ford article was pretty enlightening. Yea, knowing how to code or extract information from a hand held device is a little difficult to figure out, I'm very satisfied that my house building skills are such that my house will never fall down around my head. I'd rather have house-security instead of knowing all the intricacies of a computer or smart phone. I think Mr. Ford would agree. Kek
"You no longer have to learn anything; you just find it. No context. No memorization. Just location. You can immediately forget all about it because if you need it again you can find it again."
Pat Sajak
I'd like to solve the puzzle...
Oh...
Problem is they made it so legal content (shows and movies) you buy only play 480p when you play them on PC. They force you to use the TVs built in app for 4K.
I've literally got the Vizio POS they show in the pic from 1/2026 running @ 1920x1440 or whatever... certainly NOT 480.... I'm not a 4k/8k snob, so 1920 or whatever is fine by me...
However, YMMV - because they probably stock different stores with whatever slop tyry can get away with...
It'll run at 1920x1080 or perhaps even 3840x2160 but YouTube movies, Netflix, will refuse to play at anything higher than 480/720p when viewed on most PCs
Now that you mention it... I had an old, slow PC after i bought that Vizio and the Samsung died... and it wouldn't display or transmit sound correctly over HDMI. I was ready to pull my hair out..New fanless i5 PC with plenty of RAM - everything runs great no problem. So you gotta make sure your PC is fast enough for whatever reason...
If you connect a wifi the operating system will spy on you and possibly resell your information for marketing.
I use one of two phones with unlimited data so when hooked up to a Nividia Shield it is high speed without the tracking.
I have noticed,their tv's are cheaper than dirt.
If the tech is cheap or free, YOU are the product.
It was immediately obvious to me the tvs were fucked with some data collection or ad revenue to offset the tv. Been a play for a long time. Same concept as cheap printers expensive ink.
That cell phone in your pocket is way worse than a television. It actively listens to your conversations even if you are not using it. Heck, I was once kidding with my wife about having a Tinder account. A couple of hours later my phone begins to tell me that "here is the Tinder page you requested". What!!!????.... something needs to be done about guaranteed privacy. My phone should not be constantly listening to me talk to other folks. Grrrrrrr
If you have any type of voice activation on a device, its always listening. All of my voice activations are uninstalled or disabled. I don't need it, nor do I want it. Finally managed to get the copilot uninstalled on my computer. It wouldn't allow me to do it before. The voice activated Cortina is also gone. I also go back periodically to check to make sure that something I disabled is still off or gone. They are getting sneaky with updates turning things back on or installing them.
I was telling my wife, we need to get her a pair of chaps for riding on my new motorcycle. We both had adds for over a year after that for leather gear.
We live in a society that seeks to monetize everything. Everything is becoming some sort of service or subscription based content. Yet quality consistently declines and we somehow still get screwed and pay out the ass.
Information in this day and age is the most valuable thing you have. It should be considered a general expectation that every company will eventually seek to monetize their consumers information. Regardless of the rhetoric they feed us publicly about privacy.
https://x.com/Rightanglenews/status/2052512646415450325?s=20
Thanks for posting this info, was looking at getting a Vizio for my elderly parent. It definitely won’t be this brand.
This is a Walmart Plus Smart TV system which is their version of Amazon Prime account. Walmart's ONN brand is basically the same price but uses Roku.
ONN smart tv boxes are rebadged Google.
TCL unless they changed recently. I'm friends with a Walmart store manager and he told me that the ONN and TCL are the least returned brands they sell.
I use a streaming device (Roku, Firestick, Apple TV - choose your poison). Only Apple pledges to protect your privacy.
Visio has been caught TWICE spying on your home network and sending encrypted packets to China. My TV is nothing more than a projector of a product I trust more
I don't shop at Wal-Mart to begin with. Not impressed. Most of their stuff I wouldn't purchase anyway - especially the food. But I get it. Money is very tight for everyone these days.
I just let my grown kids keep buying themselves new this and my wife and take in the best of old ones. My house is entirely stocked in used tv's. Not a complaint or issue with any of them.
When my last TV finally took a dump, I didn't replace it. Don't really watch TV anyway. I'm mostly on my computer. Not a big movie watcher so I don't really miss it. I think it has been almost 10 years now. I had an old Sony TV that was almost 30 years old and the picture was great. That was the last TV I actually purchased. I had been given a few used widescreens from friends that bought new ones. But they only lasted a few years before they died too. So, I don't really care about it anymore. But I can appreciate not wanting all the new tech. Glad you're doing okay with the older stuff.
Some of these devices (phones, TVs, computers) are not really off when they're off. They are listening. We noticed that just talking about something in a room where there is a linked device prompts targeted ads for whatever we had been talking about.
Never, never connect to WiFi.... there you go...
I like my tv stupid. No Smart technology.
Have a Vizio in the kitchen. I'll be sure to join the class action suit when some law firm picks it up. :-D
er....
Surely the word here is "induce" or "Coerce". How do you force a customer to sign up to an account? You point a shotgun on them?
That said, dodgy AF.
Pretty sure I read about that in 1984.
That’s a fact, Jack…
We watch TV but it’s over the air channels. Not hooked to anything. Although the phone listening thing is ridiculous and frightening.
Sounds about right
they should change there name to chinamart
Nothings free. Ill bet there are high end tvs that do the same.
Tvs are cheap for a reason. Its the preferred indoctrination device.
Frodo is looking old.