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President Trump recommends chip manufacturers IMMEDIATELY move their manufacturing facilities to AMERICA, as conversations with Xi confirmed how eager China is to take over Taiwan (twitter.com)
posted 38 days ago by Chukna 38 days ago by Chukna +172 / -0
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– bubble_bursts 11 points 38 days ago +11 / -0

I am gonna link the other post here, since that one is very much related:

Trump on Taiwan: When you look at the odds, China is very, very powerful, big country. That's a very small island. Think of it, it's 59 miles away. We're 9500 miles away. That's a little bit of a difficult problem. They stole our chip industry.

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– Mcmurdo 7 points 38 days ago +7 / -0

All "no wars" types who are for sacrificing Taiwan for "peace with China" she go live there once the Chinese take over.

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– bubble_bursts 7 points 38 days ago +7 / -0

Its not really "wage war against China" vs "Sacrifice Taiwan". As always, the real solution will be completely different. No more binary thinking like we have been trained by the Cabal all our lives.

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– Mcmurdo 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

Hopefully. Those are good people over there. Also, I have interests in the Philippines. I don't want to just sacrifice them as well to a Chinese "sphere of influence". I believe Trump is working a strategy involving Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, etc. so we can avoid a war with China over Taiwan. I'm just having trouble reconciling this with what Clandestine is saying.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

My sincere advice, which I tell myself everyday in the morning as well, "dont assume what course of action is good or bad, because we cant see the full board and we can barely make out the moves. Trump knows exactly what he is doing, and if the next move means a bit of a heartache, so be it, prep yourself. You are strong"

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– TheMAGAnificent 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Also, I have interests in the Philippines.

Does that mean you're willing to enlist and defend the Philippines should war ever come to their doorstep? Or ask your children to enlist to defend and possibly sacrifice themselves for the Philippines?

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– Standingoak 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Only DS would have War over The Former Mainland Oligarchs who own Taiwan.

The same oligarchs who helped England /US get the silver back through the Opium Trade.

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– SOGWAP 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Agree. We wont give up guam.

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– Standingoak 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

What if Chyna flips it over ?

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– Mcmurdo 8 points 38 days ago +8 / -0

What about the Taiwanese people? Sacrifice them? Oh yes, "It's your war. Good luck!" 23m v 1.4b. You all think the Chinese will stop there? The CCP wants the world. They'll bargain with Trump and then go wild the first time a Democrat or Tucker Carlson type or libertarian takes office. I think it is better to control the oil, then strongly suggest China stay out of Taiwan.

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– Chukna [S] 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

What about the Taiwanese people? Not the USA's problem. America first, and AMERICA ONLY. Besides, Taiwanese people are Chinese people. If the CCP wants to conquer eastern hemishpere then let them, not the USA's problem. The USA should withdraw to the western hemisphere and the USA can make peace deal with China that China stays out of the western hemisphere (the Americas).

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– redlotus69 6 points 38 days ago +6 / -0

So sacrifice all of our Asian allies like Japan to a godless, communist Chinese empire? Fuck that

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– Chukna [S] 6 points 38 days ago +6 / -0

What allies? Open your fucking eyes, the USA has never had allies. Only FUCKING PARASITES who have been leeching on American taxpayers.

China doesn't want to conquer Japan or other Asian countries, they want to solve only their internal conflict with Taiwan. The USA should stay the fuck away from Taiwan and withdraw all support from the rebelling region.

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– Confabulation 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

The sooner we stop getting their cutting edge microchips and semiconductors the better off we'll be. We can make our own, obviously. The rest of the world can get them there, but we don't need to compete anymore because everyone will just stay within their own sphere of influence and mind their own business. The days of global business are gonna be a bygone cabal controlled era, and not soon enough.

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– deleted 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0
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– redlotus69 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

China wrecked Hong Kong and used authoritarian police state technology to crush protests

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– deleted 1 point 37 days ago +1 / -0
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– Qled 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

China isn't fascist, they're capitalist. The left likes calling anything they don't like fascist.

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– deleted 2 points 37 days ago +2 / -0
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– Confabulation 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Historically and practically, fascism and capitalism can and often do coexist. While pure, democratic capitalism emphasizes free markets and individual liberty, fascism adopts a model often called state-directed capitalism or corporatism.

You Hate It But It's True

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

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– Mcmurdo 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

I agree on America First. We must se to our interests primarily, but many times, those interests coincidecwith the interests of others. I believe this to be the case with Taiwan and all of the First Island Chain. I disagree on the concept of America Only. American First cannot be America only. For Example: We essentially left the Islamic Republic alone for 47 years, and they never stopped picking at us. Remember, we're the Great Satan. Israel was practically a second thought to them as the Little Satan. We were their primary enemy. Isreal to them was our beach head into the Middle East. Defeating Israel is important to them in this regard, but not their primary concern. They weren't leaving us alone. So I don't believe the Communists will either.

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– Chukna [S] 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

The USA fighting never ending wars in the middle east, replacing governments of different countries, doing all the different CIA operations, etc are what have caused Iran calling the USA great satan and preparing weapons to attack the USA.

If the USA started truly following Monroe/Donroe doctrine there would be no reason to attack the USA anymore.

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– Qled 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Same with the Japanese in WW2. We would never have gone to war with them if we hadn't been occupying the Philippines .

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– cancelzion 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Nobody cared about Iran until the CIA forced regime change the first time. They have every right to be pissed at us for all this time.

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– Confabulation 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Nigeria would like a word

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– TheMAGAnificent 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

China does not want the world lol

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– Mcmurdo 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

Yes they do. Communism cannot survive if there is a beacon of freedom anywhere in the world showing their subjects what it is like. That is why the Globalists wanted to subvert the whole world. The CCP are not the good guys.

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– TheMAGAnificent 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Done decent for 60 years lol

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– 33ss 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

You know none of this would've happened if Mexicans had smaller hands.

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– bubble_bursts 12 points 38 days ago +12 / -0

Choosing which country is allowed to specialize in which technology is part of the City of London's globalist strategy of controlling the world. If it wasn't chips, it would have been some other crucial tech that would have been funnelled off to Taiwan to use to keep China under control.

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– 33ss 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Do you think once the city of London has been taken out of the equation things will get better? Helluva lot of wealthy kings on this rock. I don't see a great deal of Kingly ways though. Plenty of Queen Bee hive mind ways.

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– bubble_bursts 6 points 38 days ago +6 / -0

CoL is losing more and more control every day. Thats why their regent in Canada, Carney has been desperately trying to form pan European alliance as they lose oil chokehold, insurance monopoly and now China. Their central banks - ECB and BOJ have already been weakened by the high interest rates by the Fed (haha yeah, that really hurt the enemy more than domestic economy) and the problem of CoL is that they run everything via proxies - and they are losing proxies one by one.

To fully cut all strings in China, Trump needs to:

  • Convince Chinese that they can have a prosperous future by trading like a sovereign nation based on their unique resources and talents and not as a puppet of CoL

  • Take control of chip industry from Taiwan

Trump did the first part in this trip. Now he needs to do the second part.

This is exactly the same playbook with Saudis in 2017. Trump convinced them that instead of being an Oil economy, they can prosper as a modern economy. Thats how he brought in MBS and couped the old guard. Eventually same will be done in Iran as well - thats why getting countries to trae with US directly for Oil instead of middle east is so important.

No more oil chokehold.

No more chip chokehold

Every country participates in world trade and makes bilateral deals with other countries based on their strengths and weaknesses.

This is the original American System.

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– 33ss 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

Thanks. How does the rest of the corrupt international world fall in line? Do you think AI development won't end up becoming a technocratic control system? How soon should we expect global surveillance to collapse and sovereignty returned to what should be constitutionally protected citizens of the USA? Until those surveillance systems are completely removed and BigBrother is no longer watching everyone 24/7, we aren't anywhere near as free or sovereign as the founders fought for people to be, right?

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– bubble_bursts 4 points 38 days ago +4 / -0

Okay, for these questions I have to say that this is my personal belief that has been refined over the past 8 years just watching how Trump does his thing. Take it with a big grain of salt.

How does the rest of the corrupt international world fall in line?

As the strings are cut, we will see governments fall (How do you think Kier Starmer suddenly had such a big fall, for example) and we will see indictments around the world for various things (some might not even look like anything related).

You will also see regional agreements (like the recent Thai + Combodia for example) start popping up, again sign of strings being cut.

I do however feel that the next round of right-wing governments that will get elected across the world - some of them are controlled as well. Maybe not all, but for example Nigel Farage. But even with the controlled right wing govts, we will see things like:

  • Covid prosecutions

  • Local election security around the world

  • Other local corruption prosecutions etc

Do you think AI development won't end up becoming a technocratic control system?

The simple answer is No, because the AI development is happening right at this moment in history. Any other point and we would have been lost. (I will explain this more later)

How soon should we expect global surveillance to collapse and sovereignty returned to what should be constitutionally protected citizens of the USA?

Everything is happening organically. Just we think we are hitting the precipice, we see new areas of the chessboard and new game pieces come into view. I think we will see all this happen very organically - like we might see a lot of arrests this year (Obama and co), we might see a lot of disclosure starting to happen. As people are celebrating, we might see some extreme tech/surv overreach that get "whistleblown" and cause people to start having serious discussions. People will become more aware of the mechanisms through which people lost their sovereignty.

Ultimately, and this is my belief, the bringing back constitutional sovereignty will happen as a process driven by the people, with Trump just guiding it along. Thats when the global surveillence will end.

But I also think a lot of the surveillance has either been ended / turned only against the enemy, esp under NSA. The other fiveeyes surveillance no doubt still going on.

Until those surveillance systems are completely removed and BigBrother is no longer watching everyone 24/7, we aren't anywhere near as free or sovereign as the founders fought for people to be, right?

Absolutely.

However there is perhaps a different way to look at this. Let me pose this question:

What if we could surveilled every government official, every corporate action etc, and at the same time all of us are also surveilled. And all the surveillance data is public. I know it sounds wierd and scary, but take a moment to think about it. I am not saying we will go there, but its a possibility worth hypothesising in our mind.

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– 33ss 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

Thank you for taking the time as you really have helped me understand. Your last point about surveillance of civil servants is still missing the point a bit. There is no need to constantly monitor upright, decent, human beings. Criminals should be investigated if suspected. End of. What seems clear is the Christless anti-nature of this sad future. In almost every way. Think about it.

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– Confabulation 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

But what about the organic nature of it? With all of those governments that fall, things will naturally go well. Because it's happening now.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

I'm afraid we have to step back and realize that "surveillance" has been, is now, and will be, a fact of life. So long as anyone can walk down the street and look around, that is our world. Google does that with driven automobiles and cameras, to compile comprehensive street-level photo maps that anyone can access. There is more civilian access to that surveillance data than any government can afford to spend time on. Even overhead, with private pilots or satellites. So long as no one trespasses, or violates one's rights, there is no problem. It is not a matter of government power---unless the government violates your rights, in which case it is the violation that is the power, not the surveillance. We each of us have the ability to install comprehensive surveillance cameras around our house...including a view of the neighbors across the street, or across our back yard. Do they have a right to complain? As they do of us. Do we have a right to complain?

My view is that people need to return themselves to the fact that we live in society...not on the internet. In the real world, we are not "anons," we are real people, with real faces, and real names---or we are probably criminals, who hide, and lurk, and have aliases. "Surveillance" is just a fancy way of saying "being looked at." But being looked at is inescapable if one wants to live a free life. Being heard is inescapable if one wants to exercise free speech. One is free to be a hermit...but being a hermit is to abandon society (though one may want to continue enjoying the benefits of an economy). It is not a healthy way to live. (Admittedly, some people have disabilities that reduce them to being hermits. But they are to be pitied on account of that, not held up as models.)

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Tagging u/33ss

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– Confabulation 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

A Modern Economy with The Original system. That is how you MAGA.

Sometimes you have to show them.

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– SirBudLight 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

That makes sense. The oil crisis is forcing Nations to bring it all home.

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– Confabulation 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

When they chose where resources like rare earths would be found and then mined, it was an evil master stroke. These people are sick!

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– bubble_bursts 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Rare earth minerals are found everywhere. Mining in china makes it easy to use slave labour. But the refining is also a bottleneck. The Globalist system dictates who does what refining and the rest of the countries just become raw material suppliers. Economic colonialism in the name of "Free Trade"

The evil master stroke is really the whole 'Great Game" which has been running for centuries and all this is just part of that blueprint.

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– Confabulation 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

When COL chose where to put all the slave labor it was evil. Then they chose who would decide to invest most heavily in technology made at home and who would offshore all of their manufacturing. The sooner everyone realizes they can make their own choices the sooner everyone will have the same stuff made from the same resources and the world can quit the whole trading sham that has been foisted upon them by The City of London. And you were right that it is happening organically.

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– cancelzion 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

A sci-fi series I used to listen to, Undying Mercenaries, had a galactic setup like that, where each species had something they produced while also being limited to one solar system, rules dictated by the galactic empire, who also had hostile neighbors in the Milky Way.

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– Chukna [S] 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

What?

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– 33ss 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

The Chaiwanese are better at building computer chips, cleaner, faster and more efficient.

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– deleted 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0
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– 33ss 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

I'm only repeating what I read from American entrepreneurs that worked during those years. I'd be careful with that pride stuff Bro. God bless.

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– deleted 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0
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– Qled 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Also, unions were strangling industry. It is absurd, workers wanting to make $40 an hour to sit on an assembly line and push a button all day. Yeah, I would like that too, but that isn't how it works in the real world. Industry wouldn't be going overseas if more people here were willing to work hard and not demand everything be handed to them.

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– cancelzion 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

People want a job that keeps up with inflation, so they don't need a part-time job. There are companies that will give you the bare minimum legally required "benefits" to operate.

There are illegals that can buy houses, while Americans will be forever renters because everything here is so skewed against Americans.

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– Qled 1 point 37 days ago +1 / -0

If they want to keep up with inflation, then they just need to work harder, or find another job if their current company actually is not treating them well. This has always been the case. Benefits and pay should not be required. Everything should be down to what the worker can negotiate with the employer.

When illegal immigrants buy a house, 18 of them move. Anyone can afford to buy a house if they have enough roommates. The younger generations today are simply spoiled and aren't willing to do the hard work and live in uncomfortable circumstances. Instead, they just whine and complain while living in their parent's basement. Privacy is not a right. It is a privilege that you earn when you have enough money to afford your own place. Until then, you get as many roommates as necessary to afford to live somewhere. I've seen five guys share a studio apartment. It can be done, you just have to willing to be a little uncomfortable.

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– cancelzion 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

They're "better" because the chip manufacturers got loans to build their factories there, while figuring out the manufacturing process, and training the natives how to do it the way they want.

Look to Chernobyl to see what happens when people skip safety protocols to get things done faster. I like watching Tyler Folse's videos, he's a legit nuclear engineer, and I think the type of person where an appeal to authority is legitimate. I would believe him over 1000 politicians and other types of scientists when it comes to nuclear anything, a subject he has a degree in.

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– 33ss 1 point 37 days ago +1 / -0

No its not just about money. People are different. Americans major edge over Asia is big machinery and plant.

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– Confabulation 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

That's not what I'm hearing. That was a narrative made up by the City of London that everyone just believes.

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– 33ss 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Mmm. The explanation I read perfectly described the How's and why's. Cleaner better facilities and more suited physical attributes mentally and physically and work ethic differences meant they were way more capable of producing lots of high quality chips without faults. For example when they do chips in Asia they throw away 80 percent I think. That high rate is only possible because of the level of manufacturing capability. In the west when they first started making PCs the chips were terrible for this exact reason. The microscopic faults were ignored because it was too expensive to only use near perfect chips. Computers always crashed.

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– cancelzion 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

I know it's whataboutism, but there was that microcode bug that caused Intel chips to fry themselves to death. But I'm pretty sure that wasn't caused by someone that actually knows how to code and had been doing it for decades. Probably someone more stinky who uses AI to do everything.

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– Confabulation 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Luckily we don't need to compete with them and can get good at making our own. America has the best work ethic and always has so that won't be a prroblem. We have always wanted to do our own manufacturing and now with less regulation, corporations and their shareholders will be more interested in making great products we can afford. I know I don't need to point out that this is The Plan and is happening under President Trump, so I think we can trust his business acumen.

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– 33ss 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Hey if you think you can do it go for it. The innovation isn't an issue, it's making millions of whatever product within a short space of time that everyone seems to worship..

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– Confabulation 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

We will be doing that in short order. That is why it is a golden age. Now with all the illegals gone, and manufacturing back there are jobs for everyone who wants to work. And with the economy getting more affordable, people are having more babies and families than ever. So that should solve the issue you mentioned. Not to mention AI and data centers are going to MAGA. It is a Golden Age.

NCSWIC

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– jasqid 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

Your comment reminds me of that Dudley Moore movie. Where he's a fired advertising executive that gets gets a job at an asylum. The loonies end up helping him make ads and the funniest one i remember was Sony. Electronics made in Japan, "because Asians are shorter and closer to the boards. Caucasians are just too damn tall."

It was an 80s comedy. Now I have to find and watch that again. Thanks. Lol

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– 33ss 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

If you read up on the history of Personal computer manufacturers it explains why American inventors outsourced construction to Asia. When they first started making computers using the ordinary American slave force (Mexicans) and the machines kept crashing they went to Asia and realised their facilities and work ethic were too good to not exploit. PCs never got off the ground without China and Taiwan, Vietnam and Indonesia doing the high quality mass manufacturing.

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– rherrell 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

By moving all the chip manufacturing from Taiwan to the US Trump is PREVENTING a war. China will lose all interest if the chips are gone.

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– cancelzion 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

The chip manufacturers will just hire indians.

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– Chukna [S] 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Taiwan has been part of China for thousands of years until very lately when it rebelled. China obviously wants to get Taiwan back under its control even if it's not a chip manufacturer.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

Your recent history is in error. In 1895, the island of Taiwan was ceded to Japan, where it remained through the Chinese Civil war (1927-1949) on which was superimposed the 2nd Sino-Japanese war (1937-1945). Japan was displaced from Taiwan by 1945, to which the Nationalist forces retreated, beyond the reach of the Communist government. It was never originally under Communist control.

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– Qled 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

China hasn't been under communist control for most of its history. That doesn't mean Taiwan doesn't belong to them. That would be like saying we don't own Alaska because it became a state when the Democrats were in control and now the Republicans are.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

No, it means the last legal owner was Japan. The ruling imperial government of China gave up Taiwan to Japan in 1895 (who called it Formosa). That was the end of Chinese "ownership". Japanese sovereignty was brought to an end in 1945, by which time only the Nationalist forces were in charge of that part of China.

There is no analogy. The Chinese Civil War involved a struggle between two actual governments, not mere political parties of a common government. Taipei was the last capital of the Nationalist government.

Bur, as I do not propose to argue over facts, I shall not argue.

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– ozthentic 3 points 38 days ago +3 / -0

BEAUTIFULY PLAYED. After all no-one wants to be caught up in another war, when you can be safe and sound in Arizona. And Xi is playing along to save face in front of China. The Art of the Deal.

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– Revodude 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

Removing the prize.

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– WTP_1776 2 points 38 days ago +2 / -0

/u/TaQo. I was Wong. Captain Wong.

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– cancelzion 1 point 38 days ago +1 / -0

They'll still hire indians. Intel just added another one to their c-suite. Companies can't fall all over themselves fast enough to hire foreigners over Americans.

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– Qlueless 1 point 37 days ago +1 / -0

The Scorpion and the Fox.

The nature of the scorpion will not change.

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Questions and Concerns

All moderation questions and concerns should be submitted via modmail. DO NOT GRIEF the mods.



Expand your thinking

Remember, this .WIN is the public face of the Great Awakening, and, as a member here, you agree to represent the Great Awakening movement against Globalism, Communism and Progressive Insanity in the best, most positive way possible. NOTE: Your comments and posts may become news. Keep it classy!

This is not a 'fringe conspiracy' site: Visit https://conspiracies.win if that's your thing!



No doomers or shills

If you can't use common sense, you'll get banned without hesitation. If you're a shill, you fall under this rule. If you're a doomer, you fall under this rule as you just add garbage to the site like the other two. This includes forum sliding.



General Rules

  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


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