Doubtful, I don't think people understand how fractional banking works. Congrats, all these people with millions, in some cases billions, of dollars now get their Full FDIC insurance payout of $250K. Meaning a loss of 75%+ in pretty much every case.

So the millionaires and billionaires are losing at minimum 75% of their capital (if they have exactly $1 Million invested). In most cases it'll be a loss of at least 97.5% since institutions like this require at least $10 million in capital before they'll take you on as a client.

So now that the evil billionaires have lost almost their entire fortune, what will they do with the meager $250K they've siphoned off? Where will they put it? Can't keep cash like that lying around on pallets like a mafia movie or cartoon.

So where will they put it if every other bank is gonna collapse? Therein lies the problem with theories like this, They don't understand how the current financial system actually works.

To be fair, most single family housing is absolutely retarded. You could easily double, triple, possibly even quadruple in some cases, the number of housing units available in suburban areas by allowing developers to build rowhouses and townhouess on single family lots and reducing the required amount of acreage per lot to build.

And such houses can, and often ARE very nice if built right. Heck, I know a lot of people near retirement age who're actively LOOKING for a townhouse to move into, because they don't want to move into an apartment, but don't want to deal with a yard and all the hassles that come with home ownership in their retirement. (Keeping up a house is basically a second job)

Now having said that, I feel like apartments also get a bad wrap more than they should. Yes some "Low income housing" is basically just like, tiny cubicles meant to stack people like sardines. And that type of housing should be done away with in my opinion. It's just depressing to think about.

But most people need to realize, that low income housing isn't the only type of apartment developments in existence. That IS what you'd mostly find in the inner city, but when you start looking for suburban apartments, they're typically much larger (1,000-3,000 square feet compared to 500-800 square feet), and much nicer.

Suburban Apartment communities are a thing, where you basically have a bunch of nicer, condo level, apartments that you rent out in a larger, but lower density building. Which basically has the same upsides as a townhouse or rowhouse, but with a slightly lower rent in most cases since apartments, no matter how nice, command lower rent than an actual house.

Of course that's not what the cabal wants. They want to import the ghetto into nice suburban neighborhoods, which needs to be stopped I agree. But people shouldn't just crap on anything that isn't single family housing. It's all contextual based on the area, style of apartment, targeted renter base, etc.

"Now Trump and the Patriots"

"Like we've never seen before"

Any more to add lol?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this kind of a non factor inside of US borders? I mean, half the states in the country have already ruled the whole covid ID and jab passport were unconstitutional, and the supreme court held that vaccine mandates and other arbitrary government "rules" were unconstitutional as well.

So basically, this does nothing inside of our borders. So unless you're planning on traveling abroad, it's kind of meaningless. Which to be honest, I don't know why anyone would want to travel to a different country at this point. As bad as it is here, we've managed to avoid the crapshow the rest of the planet is going through. So why would you willingly go to any of these hell holes?

Though that doesn't mean this is something to ignore. And I most certainly feel bad for other countries that will be horrendously affected by this crap. But, at least here in the US, it probably won't affect too many people's lives unless you're the type to vacation oversees every chance you get.

Oak Ridge the the Orignal (as in literally the very first) nuclear facility in the world. It's where the Atom Bomb was designed and built during WW II. It's only been built onto and updated since then, because the town is basically sitting on top of a giant slab of granite that acts as a natural barrier to any kind of radiation leaks if an accident were to happen.

My understanding is that the Uranium itself wasn't on fire, but a fire broke out at the facility and it was quickly put out almost as fast as it started. Still unacceptable, and most definitely suspicious. But not a disaster thankfully.

Besides, Oakridge keeps all their Nuclear stuff 500+ feet under the ground in a complex series of bunkers for safety. So there's little to no chance of any kind of widespread disaster from Oakridge. It's one of the most complex, and therefore safest, nuclear facilities on the planet.

Oh wow, not like 4th point I made and the map that goes along with it didn't point out the excessive amount of Dam's along the contaminated area, and I actually said they should shut a few down to help contain this mess.

And Cincinatti get's water from multiple sources, so while I'm sure it'll have some effect (probably water bills going up for residents), it's still better than the alternative and they're not gonna end up like california where people go weeks with no running water.

Not a chemistry expert, so I'll concede to the obvious chem major lol. But in my mind, that just makes my point even more true, even if it wasn't in the way I originally thought. Water dilution is one thing, but air dilution......well, there's a reason hydrogen is literally the most abundant element on earth. There's so much volume in the open atmosphere, that it's virtually impossible to die from air based toxin exposure unless your on ground zero to a gas bomb or toxic fume fire, in which case I guess East Palestine is screwed and those people need to do everything in their power to get justice.

And if I'm understanding you right, you're saying the Vinyl Chloride gas isn't as toxic as we've been thinking it was, and you need roughly 5,000 times more than we've been quoting for it to effect you in gaseous form? Or am I misunderstanding whta you've said? Cause if that's right, then this is a whole lot less of a problem than I thought outside of ground zero, and possibly some of the areas the doom cloud was in.

Well it wasn't meant to convey that. People in the immediate area SHOULD be worried and take every precaution possible. This isn't the time to be complacent.

Now as for your counter-counter points (enjoying the civil discussion for once lol), I will stand corrected. One of the four Chemicals has a boiling point of 7 degrees. The other three however, are all well over 100 degrees. Funnily enough, the only one with a boiling point below 82 was the one you specifically mentioned lol. Though you are right, to become water soluble it has to be boiled to 82 degrees. So I'll be honest, I have no idea what that means. Will the surrounding water keep it cool enough, or will the residual heat from the water allow it to boil? This is something someone who actually knows what they're talking about should look into, and I'll be the first one to admit that. I'd assume that for it to form another doom cloud, it'd have to reach 82 degrees and become water soluble in order to combine with the water molecules that form the rain clouds, but as I said, I won't say that for certain since it's outside of my field of knowledge.

But you for a few sauces, so here's one for each confirmed chemical to be part of the train derailment.

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2-Butoxyethanol#section=Odor

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/2-Ethylhexyl-acrylate#section=Color-Form

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Butyl-acrylate#section=Odor

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Vinyl-Chloride#section=Odor

For reference, just control + F and search boil to get past all the science nerdery. As for the oil comparison, I admit not the best, but I can't really think of anything else to compare it to since it's NOT a Chernobyl event. And that's what I mean by the doomsday stuff. A lot of people seem to be laboring under the impression that the cabal has basically won with this one event. That it doesn't matter if we win the war, since they'll get their revenge from beyond the grave because they've irreparably damaged our ecosystem and destroyed half of the most productive cropland in the United States, all while irreparably contaminating our water supply and air supply, thus ensuring we'll all die a horrendous slow death and ensuring their revenge from beyond the grave.

That's simply not what's happened here. I don't doubt it was essentially a cabal terrorist attack under the guise of an "accident", but it's not an end of civilization event, like so many seem to be under the impression it is.

Finally, the mercury comparison. You're missing the point. I was pointing out that we've had massive amounts of mercury in every major body of water for decades now. And we consume it regularly. What I missed because I had a brain fart (I'm tired and sleep deprived, sue me), is that the FDA (spoiler alert they're feeding you poison), allows for an "acceptable" mercury content of 1 ppm of mercury for seafood and drinking water.

So every time you drink water from a river or eat seafood from a river, you're probably getting 500 times the toxic dosage of Mercury, as per the EPA and FDA's own guidelines.

The reason I made the mercury comparison, is because it's much more toxic that the chemicals being dumped, and many people consume of it to kill them 500 times over on the regular. With that in mind, and as u/SuckaFree pointed out, the sheer amount of water in the Ohio and Mississippi, and eventually the gulf if it gets that far, will dilute this stuff to such an extent, that, you'll probably die from mercury poisoning before you die from Vinyl Chloro-whatever poisoning.

East Palestine is screwed. Period. There's no argument to be made there. It'll soon become a dead ghost town in the next decade or so unless a miracle occurs. But everywhere else along the Ohio and Mississippi river isn't anywhere near as effected.

Also, found a few new maps I'll add to the post. Feel free to look since they show the wind pattern for February 7 and February 8 that the doom cloud was taking as per the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). Which shows my point about the doom cloud trajectory. It hadn't' quite spread to DC at that point, but well halfway through New York at the time.

Though I will admit, I did not expect or see anything in my monitoring the past couple weeks that would have led me to believe it would hit Canada, but apparently it was all the way up into Maine and parts of Canada right before it finally hit the Atlantic Ocean and got caught up in the wind streams.

Uh, not sure where you're going here. I never defended them, in fact I literally called for them to be lynched and executed for this. I just pointed out that this isn't as widespread as everyone seems to believe it is. It's far more localized, but still unacceptable.

First of all, there's a difference between localized wind, and wind currents. Wind currents always follow the same pattern and hardly, if ever change. The only time they ever change is with large cyclical events, like El Nino. So even if the wind changes in your localized area, the overall wind drift is still going to push it in a specific, and predictable direction.

Second of all, I never claimed to be an expert on literally anything here. So I won't comment on anything I don't know about.

Thirdly, of course if you live in any of the effected areas you should have your water tasted, that's common sense.

EDIT: Accidentally hit save before I was done.

Fourthly From my understanding all the chemicals that were dumped, have a boiling temperature of at least 82 degrees Fahrenheit. And there's not a single body of water in North America that gets that hot, even in the summer. So none of this will evaporate with the water.

Fifthly, I'll give you a comparison. You say this stuff is toxic at 1 ppm (parts per million), so anyone who even touches the water or soil is a walking hazmat. Yet, for decades nearly every major river and lake in the USA has had an abundance of mercury contamination. Mercury is toxic at 2 ppb (parts per billion). So it's even more toxic, and there's more of it in the water. Yet, you never hear of anyone being a walking hazmat after walking through a contaminated river, or swimming in a contaminated lake, etc.

As for the rest of the points, well as I said, I'm not expert, so I won't comment since I have literally no idea, and I'd rather not comment on something I have literally zero knowledge over.

But overall, I maintain that while this is an environmental disaster, it's less of an end of the world scenario, and more chemical land based version of the BP oil spill.

Still horrible and someone needs to pay for it, but not a doomsday scenario.

Literally the most liberal argument I've ever heard of. "You're not directly affected, therefore you may not have a differing view on the topic". This is how they argue for pro-trans policies.

I never said it wasn't bad, quite the opposite, I literally called for people to be lynched over it. But it's not a doomsday event. It's extremely localized.

The amount of chemicals in negligible in the Gulf of Mexico. It'd be like taking an eye dropper and dropping a few drops of vinegar into a bathtub full of water. While it may not evaporate since I don't think it get's hot enough in the gulf to do that, it'll disperse to such a degree thanks to water physics that by the time it gets to Florida, the east coast, and ESPECIALLY the british isles, the amounts in the water will be so infinitesimally small, you'll probably be more likely to have adverse health effects from eating a fish caught in the great lakes and getting heavy metal poisoning.

What do you mean? If you mean where it ends, it feeds into the Mississippi river.

You know, most illegals don't own land right? They might own a house, but very rarely do they own raw land up here. Mainly because of what I pointed out. They work up here, then will often buy farms of their own back in their home country, usually in cash.

And yes, we DO need a growing population. The larger your population, the more leverage you have in the international stage. That's literally the only reason India and china are deemed important on the world stage. They're the only two nations with more than a billion people "officially" (China doesn't really have a billion people, but that's another topic).

The more people you have, the more leverage you have with things like tarrifs. Want to stop paying federal income taxes completely and replace it with tariffs like everyone keeps talking about? Well that's impossible without the US having a large population of consumers for the rest of the world to deal with. We have the third largest population on the planet after India and China. That's our biggest leverage point when it comes to import and export tariffs.

You wan to do business with the worlds largest economy and third largest consumer base (largest consumer base by some standards since Americans consume more per capita than other nations), then you'll have to pay the tariff to do so.

If our population falls off and it's not as profitable to do business with the United States, then tariffs will fail, and we'll be back to income taxes and other means to fund our government.

Population growth is a lot more important economically than people realize.

Literally the dumbest thing I've ever heard. A growing population is a sign of a healthy economy and prosperous nation. Look at Japan, the country with the worst population decline in the world. Has the lowest happiness rating of any country, everyone is miserable, most have given up on personal relationships, the young people have devolved into porn addicts ("herbivore man" is a term in Japan used to describe a young man with no interest in real women because he knows he'll never be able to support a gf/wife or a family so he only has "feelings" for 2d women in manga, anime, and hentai), Suicide is at an all time high among young people, and while drug use isn't very high in Japan, Alcohol abuse is amongst the highest in the world.

This isn't everything either, it's just a few consequences of a declining population I can think of off the top of my head.

So no, growing populations are "just to enrich corporations and bankers". They're a vital part of a healthy economy and prosperous nation.

I mean, from what I've been able to tell, it's a combination of whites and "hispanics" driving it up, the black population is decreasing in most states. But to be honest, "hispanic" is fake term anyway created to do nothing but fragment the white demographic on official reports in order to demoralize people.

I'll try to not go on my usual rant when asked on the topic, but the short version is, until, I believe the 70s, there was no hispanic demographic, because hispanics aren't a race. They're a culture. They were counted towards the white or black demographic, based on their skin tone and origin. Which is the proper way to do it

"HIspanics" are mostly European, with a few of African origin. Basically, they're just like Americans, except instead of having their main origin be the UK and Germany, their main origin is Spain.

Are Spanish people white? Yes. Ergo, most "hispanics" are also white. With a small portion being black or "mestizo" due to their origin from Spanish slaves, or enslaved Latin American Indians.

That's the short version since I don't want to rant like usual, but it's all an inane argument anyway. Hispanics have been turning to the conservative side of things for decades. The GOP gains more and more support literally every election. In the last couple of elections, the Rio Grande Valley of Texas turned red in some areas and in other major areas was within a few points of being red.

Likewise, "hispanics" in Florida basically turned the state from a swing state to a solid red state. Several Large Florida counties and cities have turned red at the local level in recent years.

The biggest win has been Miami. Let that sink in. Miami has turned red on the local level, thanks to "hispanics" turning conservative en masse. For the record, Miami is the single largest "hispanic majority" city in the United States.

The problem isn't "hispanics", it's illegals. And even then, most of the time it isn't even them actually voting. They're just warm bodies for the left to register illegally and call upon when they need the votes. The illegals rarely actually vote themselves.

I'm not saying we should just allow all illegals to come here. We DO need to stop this and do something about it, but most of these people do just legitimately want a better life and that's all they care about.

That's why Trump's remain in Mexico policy was so popular and successful with them. They could willingly be deported, stay in a border city in Mexico for a few months, and then get a legal green card so long as they had a clean record and no longer have to deal with all the hassles. Then they could legally work a few months while sending money back home, and then come back when the off season started, which allowed them to live an upper middle class lifestyle in their home country.

Basically, Trump let Hispanics legally work here and treat their American seasonal jobs like how we treat oil field or gas field jobs. Work a few months, get a few months off. Send money back home, and then because USD is worth more than basically every currency used in Latin America, they were able to make it go further and live a higher quality lifestyle. It wasn't perfect, but it was a pretty good compromise. Get the illegals out, retain cheap labor, and the "hispanics" get a higher quality life in their home country with their family.

The people who hated the policy were the same ones now trafficking children and drugs on the open border. People we wouldn't want here no matter what their nationality and who'd never get a visa now matter what they do.

Anyway, "hispanics" aren't real, and Trump is master at playing the mexicans. But what else is new? Haha

I'm unfamiliar with the event, but I'd say you're probably right based on the name. Chernobyl is kind of the standard for "scary end of the world event", so people use it in hyperbole too much.

I never said it WAS NOT bad, in fact, I said several times it IS bad in the immediate area. But people seem to operating under the impression that half of Ohio and Pennsylvania are going to be uninhabitable and the land unarable. Which from what I can tell, isn't the case in any way.

East Palestine is probably screwed in the long term, which is horrible yes, but Ohio and Pennsylvania overall are alright in the medium-short term.

That's what I said. This isn't an American Chernobyl, this is much more localized and concentrated, without any ability to spread out over a large enough distance to effect anyone but the immediate residents in the medium-long term.

So I'm sorry you're going through it (since you're apparently there on site), but that's not what I said at all.

You're right, that's why quite a few are basically useless since we'd have to drill so far down to access them it, it's be more effective and cheaper to collect rain water. Every USABLE aquifer in the area we're debating over is at an increased elevation. Otherwise you'd have to drill thousands of feet into the ground to get to them, which isn't feasible by most standards.

The same logic still applies Aquifers aren't all on the same level, they increase in elevation with the land. The water would still have to flow uphill to reach the Aquifers in the southern Appalachians. Otherwise they'd be below the Bedrock level of the area, and thus not flow into the underground aquifers.

You know, there's a few major problems with this. Besides what u/bcfromfl pointed out, this theory overlooks one major, glaring problem. Water travels downhill due to the basic laws of physics. The Appalachians tend to get higher in elevation the further south you go, which presents a problem with what this post is suggesting.

Ohio and Pennsylvania, even the Appalachian part of the two states, are at a lower elevation than the entirety of West Virginia, and a good portion of the covered areas in Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama.

In fact, the mountain range peaks in the North Carolina side of the Smokey Mountains. Ergo, it's physically impossible for nearly half this map to see water contamination in the way described, since it would require water to flow uphill to reach those areas.

Just going to point this out, it's not Hobby Lobby. It's some Non Profit that the owners of Hobby Lobby donate too doing all of this. If you research this topic to any extent you see that this is all being organized and funded by "The Servant Foundation". A Kansas "Christian" Non-Profit that has over a billion dollars in assets and almost $400 Million in annual grants.

The Hobby Lobby Owners are just one of many people who have donated to this organization, and have little to no say in how this money is used.

Don't get me wrong, they should have looked into who they're donating to in more depth, but these are the same people who have spent hundreds of millions of dollars in legal fees over the decades single handedly funding anti abortion and anti fag lawsuits in order to guarantee our religious freedom.

Hobby Lobby single handedly funded the supreme court case that overturned the kenyan era law requiring ALL employers provide abortion "care", on the principle of it violated the owner's Religion. Likewise, they've funded countless anti fag lawsuits. The most prominent is the Colordado Baker who wouldn't bake a cake for a pair of queers and got sued. Hobby Lobby Funded that man's Lawsuit and it set a precedent that you don't have to be forced to do something that violates your religion "in the name of customer service".

OF course they're trying other means to force us to do that now, but I digress.

The Title and Article doesn't give all the info or context and is misleading. Hobby Lobby hasn't suddenly turned into a bunch of fag lovers and illegal immigrant lovers. As far as I'm aware they're still involved in a hundred+ lawsuits over "anti fag discrimination", and the owners have said many times they don't support illegal immigrants, even if they feel for their circumstances.

Besides, most other articles on this read like hit pieces on Christianity, talking about how it's dying in America, which is a lie. Every one of them word it very specifically to say that "organized Christianity is dying". Which is true to an extent, because unaffiliated Churches and Non-denominational Unaffiliated Christians are at an all time high in the US, since nearly every main stream "church" has been corrupted. But Christianity isn't dying in the USA, in fact, it's been growing steadily over the last few decades.

That's why they've had to redefine a number of different categories on the census in order to fabricate a narrative to fit their agenda.

But I went on a tangent there. Long story short, Hobby Lobby has NOT turned woke as far as I can tell. But they need to screen their religious donations better.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't something like 97% of all these faggot freaks end up with some kind of life threatening infection because of the urine and feces constantly getting into their fake "vagina", and causing a bacterial infection?

I also believe they can't pee straight or without hurting, and many can't even sit for long periods without being in excruciating pain. And that's just off the top of my head.

So with all of these "vaginal" problems, what good is a fake womb going to do these faggots? They'd probably end up dead from "childbirth complications" at a rate of 95%+. And when they don't die, they'll end up crippled for the rest of their life from complications.

Would just like to point out that this only accounts for weapons sold through a FFL. This doesn't account for 80% build kits, 3d prints, and whatnot. So considering how many homemade glocks, sigs, ARs, AKs, etc. there are floating around out in the ether. You can probably double the number of guns in the USA.