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NO SHIT...IT'S CALLED SCIENCE! MERCK Scraps Vaccine! Says better to catch the COVID Virus & Recover. (principia-scientific.com)
posted 5 years ago by LIBERTYanon 5 years ago by LIBERTYanon +831 / -0
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– Join_Or_Die 91 points 5 years ago +91 / -0

This "plan" of theirs is not working because the virus is not dangerous enough to continue causing the panic they want. Time to go back to war with someone.

At least a pharma company came out and said it....your immune system is better than any "vaccine" would be, and we have treatment for it anyway...thus no vaccine is needed (Regeneron, HCQ + zinc, etc.)

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– ObjectiveReality 61 points 5 years ago +61 / -0

This is because 'the party of science' are politicians and no scientists. Even their scientists are politicians rather than scientists.

You want to know what deadly viruses do in the age of hygiene? They get less deadly, and fast. In an environment of hand washing and not letting corpses rot in the streets, being deadly simply isn't a successful reproduction strategy, so variants which mutate (back) into typical respiratory virus phenotypes out compete other variants.

It doesn't matter if Sars-2 was released purposefully or accidentally from the Wuhan lab, it wasn't going to be the threat it was seen to be post function gain development, not for long. Once you let a virus into nature, it's selected for it's environment.

Which incidentally, is why hygiene (not vaccinations) has been the primary driver in reductions in everything from typhoid to polio. Vaccines work, but Hygiene works even better.

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– OkieBowhunter 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

I'm constatly reminded by lemmings that science cannot be fudged... Despite the fact that it is, ALL THE FUCKING TIME for politics.

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– ObjectiveReality 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

Science was an 'I win' button in arguments. And for good reason. You can't argue against facts and logic. The problem was that retards got in arguments and then someone posted a study and everyone went, "oh yes I see, well there you go" and the retard got mad. It wasn't fair. So the retards banded together and now they make their own studies.

SEE IT SAYS THERE ARE MANY GENDERS, I WIN

SEE IT SAYS THE TEMPERATURE WILL GO UP 8c IN TWENTY YEARS, I WIN

"IT SAYS"

"IT SAYS"

As though it being in a paper makes it so. As though it was ever the source being the weight of the argument. That by donning a lab coat the same argument becomes unassailable.

"Science" today is a fucking cargo cult of what it once was.

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– Gnometard 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The left ruins everything.

Scientific method is crucial but the left had to be all inclusive, so everything gets published no matter what which muddies the waters.

If you're looking at a study, you have to look at the methodology. They surveyed 4 people and now are saying that represents the whole country? Bad science.

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– ObjectiveReality 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Materials and methods is where all the dirt is hidden. It's nearly always purposefully incomplete, and good luck getting clarification. Reviewers don't care either, because it's all politics and money. Journals only care about what's going to get cited, the impact of the claim and the name behind it are literally the only things that matter, data is just for appearances.

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– Encognegro98ckun2qb 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

I want to know how much money they embezzled and how many people they hurt to just say “oh well...” how convenient

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– ObjectiveReality 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Trillions and billions respectively

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– Encognegro98ckun2qb 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

They’ve put us all into a multilateral illegal phase 4 clinical trial. Evil!

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– CantStumpTheCensored 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Correct. Nobel priE luc.montagnier said that too. Viruses tend to lose their altered parts when released back in the wild. This is why they re seeding new variants. All variants have one wave like classic resp diseases and go away.

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– Gesirisi 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Wonderful post. It brings to mind the many other things that society itself has solved but government takes credit for. For example child labor dropping over the years due to advances in technology and wealth creation of the free market, but the government taking all the credit thanks to their child labor laws. It is very sensible that advances in hygiene, scientific understanding of how viruses work are what have caused things like polio to become extinct in modern countries. Yet vaccines get all the credits. Thank you for this post!

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– ObjectiveReality 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

History is written by the history writers. And the history writers want your subservice to the priests, which in this case are the politicians masquerading as scientists, and so they credit everything good to the church. Vaccines, poverty, pollution - man accomplished this, but they want you to believe it was god that did it. That it was """science""", and without it we would be nowhere, so do what the """scientists""" say next. Eat the bugs, own nothing, get microchiped, god knows what is best for you, and hellfire awaits if you choose to think instead for yourself.

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– Gesirisi 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It was only through God that man accomplished those things. However, I disagree with your claim. This isn't the 1400's, nobody is trying to get you to be subservient to priests- besides the Pedo Pope. They want you subservient to their lord and master Communism, and more succinctly put The State. And as a subchapter they want you subservient to The Experts and The Science.

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– ObjectiveReality 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That's THE ANALOGY

they want you subservient to The Experts and The Science.

I wonder if that's exactly what I wrote

the priests, which in this case are the politicians masquerading as scientists

Oh wow, it was

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– ObjectiveReality 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Superbugs are true for the same reason reason covid is benign - nature selects for that which is best suited to it's environment

When the environment is one where antibacterials are everywhere, resistance is required. Resistance is selected for, and what competes out the alternatives is unstoppable. Being deadly is a fine reproductive strategy when there's an endless supply of sick just meters away and you can't be stopped.

Hospitals are an unusual environment. We should have decentralized them ages ago, but competition is literally not allowed so instead of having several smaller facilities we have consolidated state mandated monopolies. You can thank socialism for that too by the way.

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– Patriot_Perks 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Like everything else China engineers, they fucked it up. Praise God for making the Chinese so worthless at virtually everything.

They put out a “deadly” virus with negligible morbidity risk.

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– gododgers26 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Don’t forget Ivermectin! (Which Merck is the main carrier of.)

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– powershellder 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I kinda wish they were allowed to raise the price of their old generics when a new disease comes out.

Then the $0.15 ivermectin pills would be $200, which is what they want to charge for new treatments, except we get medicine that’s proven, instead of their untested cocktails.

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– 17nightsofdarkness 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Eh, ivermectin is widely used as a dewormer for livestock. That would have pretty profound effects on the price of beef me thinks.

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– 17nightsofdarkness 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Oh yea! I forgot about that. I argue with my vet about it all the time over my dogs! Why is it $15-20 a MONTH for my 50lb dog when you can do a 1000lb cow for a $1?

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– KurtTingles 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Imagine trying to create a bioweapon to cause fear in the masses and putting all upgrades into contagiousness and forgetting about lethality or symptoms. No wonder their Plague, Inc. run is shit...

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– impera 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

What's the use of a vaccine when at best, its still less effective than getting covid at building up permanent covid resistance? An utterly worthless product.

Would anyone buy cars if they were slower, could carry less, and not go as far as you could on your own two legs? No, what would be the point of them at all?

Furthermore, anyone making a useless (and likely dangerous) thing mandatory is a pretty damning piece of organised crime. Why shouldn't the shitty product fail or succeed on its own merits without this rigged-race type bullcrap?

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– valley-lily 24 points 5 years ago +24 / -0

I and my whole family caught covid. Here's the deets:

  1. My parents caught it first, since they are elderly this doesn't surprise me. I was with them at their home for 5 full days while they were sick with it (at the time we didn't know it was covid, they hadn't taken a test yet). I didn't catch it for 5 full days of being with 2 covid positive people, stuck inside the house. It takes THAT long and THAT much interaction with covid positive people to even CATCH it. So catching it out in the wild somewhere at walmart or the grocery store is SO MINIMAL it's not even possible. You may ask where my parents got it. Well, my mom probably got it first because she's a nurse and has dealt with a few covid patients, then my dad caught it from her.

  2. I didn't experience symptoms until 2 days AFTER I caught it, it takes THAT long for symptoms to appear. And no, those 2 days prior don't mean you're "asymptomatic," that's just the incubation period, 48 hours is about how long it takes for any typical cold or even flu to incubate in your body.

  3. I only had 1 bad day of symptoms: body aches, tiredness, LOW grade fever for 1/2 day, itchy/scratchy/dry throat similar to strep, and a ticklish sort of cough.

  4. My symptoms after that weren't bad, just like a cold: mostly tired, runny then stuffy nose, dry throat, tickling cough, etc.

  5. I have asthma, and before I got covid I really did worry that my asthma would make it worse, turns out it was the opposite, my breathing was perfectly fine despite the cough. I had FAR worse coughing/breathing issues when I got bronchitis for 5 full weeks 4 years ago, now THAT was almost deadly. I went to the hospital 4 times for that, and I didn't have to go even ONCE for covid, it was THAT mild.

  6. The worst symptom WAS the coughing, but only because it was that annoying ticklish kind that never really subsides. I drank a lot of tea and took tons of cough drops to soothe it. It's a cough more in your throat rather than deeper in your chest or lungs, no "double coughing." The coughing was mostly better after 10 days, and completely gone after 18 or so days.

  7. NONE of my family had to go to the hospital, not even my elderly parents. They fared it worse than my brothers and I but that's to be expected given their age, but it was never so bad that they felt like they were dying or had to be admitted. Anyone who dies of covid or has to go to the hospital because of it are either 102 years old or they have serious other medical issues such as obesity or cystic fibrosis. Normal people, even older people, will survive this thing with an incredibly high rate.

  8. After we all had it, NONE of us have gotten sick with ANYTHING, not even another typical winter cold, or the flu, NOTHING! Seems like this thing is so similar to colds and even flu's (flu's are different from colds, but some similarities) that your body builds up a great immunity for all of those things. So these idiots saying "you can catch covid twice" are so full of it. Yes, sure, you can catch anything "twice" but it's not the same strain, this is why we have a new flu vaccine every year, but so far I've seen no actual substantiated evidence of a new "deadlier" strain of covid (that all seems to be typical MSM scare tactics), so once you get it you're set for a while.

---------Hope this helps any and all!

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– honeymussie 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

I think I got it last year too before the tests (after being in NYC) and I haven't had the slightest cough or cold since. I go to work everyday and interact with lots of different people and nothing.

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– numina18 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you for this. Excellent recount.

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– hope111111 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

try the burnt orange thing

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– valley-lily 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It affected my mom the most, but not for me at all. I didn't eat whatever though, I only felt like eating "easy" things like soup and tea and plain crackers, simple things for my stomach and nothing that would get me feeling sick. But I never lost my sense of taste or smell. My mom did, a little, but now that she's better it's back, but the strange thing is that she has ultra cravings for meat, she can't get enough now. Probably because she lost some weight and her body is craving protein, but I never got such cravings as that. I do seem to be eating more spicy things recently though, take that for what you will.

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– freewillsetstruth 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

There is NO SCIENCE in germ theory. Pull your head out of your ass! The scientific method has never proven that any microorganism has ever been pathogenic! Don't believe me? Go ahead and prove me wrong. Guess what, you can't!!! Correlation is not causation. Disease study is a pseudo science perpetuated by Pharma. Not only are vaccines and most medicines unfounded because they are built on a false premise (i.e. germs are pathogenic), they are mostly poison and can only further your illness. "Side effects" are DIRECT EFFECTS of consuming poison.

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– riffy 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

Ever hear about Louis Pasteur and his flask experiments ? Dr John Snow and Cholera outbreaks? Koch's Postulates?

Have those been disproved ?

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– numina18 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Bechamp won that fight!!

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– Robert 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I mean I'm pretty sure you can inject mice with ebola and they'll shit themselves to death so...

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– winterkill 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Ridiculous claim - possible shill? Some microbes are obviously pathogenic. Go huff some ebola and tell me if not.

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– Robert 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Correlation is not causation.

Correlation does not directly imply causation but is an indicator that something should be looked at closer.

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– waggin_the_dog 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

It doesn't imply causation at all. It implies some possible underlying relationship and the weight of that relationship.

I'll grant you it does suggest you should look closer.

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– Gnometard 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Are you retarded or just a Democrat?

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– waggin_the_dog 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Umm wtf are you talking about? I'm not talking about taxes faggot

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– Wolf451 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I am open to this, especially wrt “viruses”. Can you provide any source information and discussion?

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– Obelus 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

https://www.bioregmed.org/the-germ-theory-debunked/

Look into terrain theory (or I guess Exosome theory). Modern medicine claims it's debunked (in the way snopes claims things are debunked) but it's a much better explanation than germ theory imo. Basically, bacteria doesn't cause illness, rather it appears where there is illness.

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– powershellder 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Isn’t terrain theory more like “not always”?

For example, if you are healthy and come into contact with the flu virus, your immune system can easily suppress it and you won’t show symptoms and “get sick”.

But if you do not take care of yourself (overweight, drink, smoke), you are much more likely to get sick if you contract the flu virus.

Not everyone exposed to chickenpox gets chickenpox, but I doubt there are cases of chickenpox that emerge out of nowhere.

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– Obelus 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

For example, if you are healthy and come into contact with the flu virus, your immune system can easily suppress it and you won’t show symptoms and “get sick”.

But if you do not take care of yourself (overweight, drink, smoke), you are much more likely to get sick if you contract the flu virus.

That's the idea from my understanding yes. It basically comes down to your immune system which is affected by how well you take care of yourself and environmental factors.

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– Gnometard 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

There is also viral load.

Even a healthy person can get sick if they get enough of the virus in them before the body can fight it off.

It's why I was told not to wear a mask when I had H1N1, I would keep myself exposed for too long

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– y000danon 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

More like they wanna keep their existing cash cow shit vaccines moving without scrutiny on those.

So much evidence already exists against Merck - literally a more cost-viable stategy to literally avoid COVID completely.

Now - why the hell they would say:

This decision follows Merck’s review of findings from Phase 1 clinical studies for the vaccines. In these studies, both V590 and V591 were generally well tolerated, but the immune responses were inferior to those seen following natural infection and those reported for other SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines.

That's - whut

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– HereComesTrouble 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Holy shit. A pharmaceutical company with some ethics???

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– numina18 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Oh, I’m quite sure ethics was the last thing on their minds...

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– powershellder 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Considering Merck had the 7th largest pharma lawsuit ever (Vioxx), they are probably hedging their bets.

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– HereComesTrouble 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Hm. Good point. And here I was hoping there was someone around there with some morals. Silly me!

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– tcriv 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

companies don't have ethics (especially drug companies lol)

the goal is to earn

they probably did an analysis and realized launching this product of this product will not be good for their bottom line in the long run. probably liability concerns. hopefully fear or bankruptcy.

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– ChubbyHubby 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They probably don't want the lawsuits coming when it comes out that Covid 19 is not real... We are winning.

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– VetforTrump 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

My immune system is 99.9999

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– cajun_robear 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Gee, you'd think the whole Covid thing was fake.

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– DJTLandSlide2020 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Kung-Flu is just like all other shit made in China, cheaply put together and can't stand the test of time.

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– ditzee58 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

My friend, J., had been undergoing chemo for leukemia for a few months when he got covid 19. He told me his only symptom was that he was more tired than usual. J said he had had seasonal colds that were worse than covid 19..

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– Gnometard 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That is the majority of what I've been told by people I work with who had it.

My buddy texted me earlier saying he has it. 2 symptoms, muscle aches and extreme shortness of breath

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– Toolbane 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Wait, most people's bodies are designed to deal with viruses? Mind blown! Lmao

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– Toolbane 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

But people take a crap and don't wash their hands. Much bigger issue to me lol

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– Gnometard 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Yep. That bacterial balance is crucial

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– SuqamisLostPassport 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Their new plan is to focus on therapeutics, two drugs which have a MK prefix. Lol. Mind Kontrol

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– cysp 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

the immune responses were inferior to those seen following natural infection and those reported for other SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines

Pretty much their vaccine just sucked compared to everyone else. They did not say "It's better to catch it and recover". I'm pretty skeptical on the effectiveness RNA vaccines, but let's not get it twisted.

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– Robert 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They do however recommend therapeutics that sound like they work identical to HCQ.

Just take HCQ and a zpak.

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– Gesirisi 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I think the headline here is wrong. They didn't discontinue their vaccine because "it's better to catch covid and recover." They cancelled it because their vaccine was performing at lower levels than 1) getting the virus and recovering naturally and 2) other vaccines. While there is a grain of truth in the headline, it is deceiving if you actually follow the links to the company website.

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– try4gain 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

not Q related

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– Donny_Fiasco 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Covid and the false narrative is certainly Q related.

"Is this about the virus or the election? "

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– javixpimraj 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Link not working for me, but archived version here: https://archive.vn/IIFcD

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– Donny_Fiasco 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Ahh the divine comedy continues

I'm going to enjoy this three month presidency

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– DiveAndBait 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Spread this news far and wide.

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– b-boy 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The mRNA vaccine needs to be stored at cryogenic temperatures. I have no idea what is being given at present...my guess is the flu vaccine.

We don't want experimental mRNA vaccines.

Sauce: https://www.futurity.org/mrna-vaccines-adenovirus-covid-19-2489252/

However, mRNA is extremely fragile and if not handled properly it can fall apart. If it does, that’s the end of your vaccine. That’s why this vaccine has to be kept extremely cold: -112 F or -80 C for the Pfizer vaccine and -4 F or -20 C for the Moderna vaccine. I’m not sure what Moderna is doing differently that allows them to get away with the warmer temperature but it still needs to be kept well below freezing.

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– Caprica777 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

In case anyone doesn’t trust this source, or wants to share with normies who don’t trust anything, here are some ‘safe’ news outlets covering this;

Reuters article on the vaccines being cancelled:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-merck-idUSKBN29U187

Wall street journal:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/merck-scraps-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-11611575103

Merck link directly to the statement:

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-discontinues-development-of-sars-cov-2-covid-19-vaccine-candidates-continues-development-of-two-investigational-therapeutic-candidates/

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If you can't use common sense, you'll get banned without hesitation. If you're a shill, you fall under this rule. If you're a doomer, you fall under this rule as you just add garbage to the site like the other two. This includes forum sliding.



General Rules

  • Mods will issue NO warnings, followed by temporary bans and/or permanent bans. DO NOT GRIEF THE MODS.

  • Keep posts related to topics Q has raised or that are current.

  • Keep post duplication (especially from other .WINs) to a minimum.

  • HIGH EFFORT, HIGH-INFO posts only! Please respect other readers' time. Please use descriptive titles. No URLs in titles, pls. No clickbait.

  • No fame-fagging; no, "your" post did not get removed! Were you the original author?? Eyes on the prize, people!

  • Memes encouraged, but no low-quality, low-info posts.

  • Keep it honest and accurate.

  • GAW Supporters ONLY. (Sorry, the train had no brakes.)

  • Handshake noobs will be scrutinized by their Q knowledge, sincerity, and respect.

  • Remember, your conduct here represents the Q movement! OUR ENEMIES ARE WATCHING!

  • Please direct all complaints to modmail first!


Resources


WELCOME TO THE DIGITAL BATTLEFIELD


"River of Search" script:


GAW post formatting tips


Q Research (Q only posts at 8kun)


Q post archives (qagg.news) others 1 2 3 4


Browse Drops from the beginning


QProofs.com


Learn to read the Q map


Book of Q Proofs v1.3 (pdf)


Law of War & Majic Eyes Qnly Resources


Trumps twitter archive


POTUS: The Calm Before The Storm


Pedosta and DNC dumps


GIFs & QPosts


Poll Post Format


SPY ON US! See: mod Logs


The Greatest Show on Earth!


New to Q? "The Earth Chronicles Ep 12: Q & The White-Hat Op: What's Real, What's Not?"


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