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Windows 10 secretly listens to everything you say, records all keystrokes with hidden keylogger that uploads to Microsoft | Intellihub (www.intellihub.com)
posted 5 years ago by 50_stars_for_freedom 5 years ago by 50_stars_for_freedom +168 / -0
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– PopcornTastesGood 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

This is illegal wire tapping just like what Facebook is going through. Facebook case set precedence and take down the rest? You already know all the major companies are doing this shit.

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– BatteryBaron 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Its in the EULA... completely legal

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– Vapourface 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

"Shutup windows 10" is a handy program which allows you to switch off most of these features..

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– MahaYoshi 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

For anyone reading this and rolling their eyes, if you have ever tried Linux in the past and left feeling like it was too much hassle or missing too many things, it might be worth another try.

8 or so years ago I found myself wanting to like Linux but missing too many apps and annoyed by how much fiddling everything took, and became a Mac user while going through school.

But after the election with all the Apple App Store BS, I decided it was worth another try, and since I'm a more competent software developer now, I thought it would also be a chance to put my money and time where my mouth was and start helping to add to the Linux ecosystem.

So I bought a Dell XPS 13 with Ubuntu pre-installed, and honestly, everything works great, and so much of everything I was missing before is now on the web or available in some form on Linux. I still have a Macbook for iOS development, but this Dell with Linux has unintentionally become my daily driver.

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– Spaceforce2033 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Just wait until you get a system 76. :) They put the xps to shame.

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– MahaYoshi 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Good to know! The XPS was me dipping my toes into the water, but after playing around with Pop! OS a little bit, a System 76 is definitely next on my list.

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– Spaceforce2033 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I've never had a linux laptop where everything just worked until my system76.

I've used linux for the last 15 years and I've always had to live with something funky on every laptop, from wifi randomly disconnecting to suspend resume not working to having to jump through massive hoops for full disk encryption.

All of that just works on their laptops. Quite frankly, I'm beyond impressed with what they have been able to pull off.

The only downside, is windows doesn't really work on their machines. The driver support is kinda not there, so windows runs slow, meaning their machines are bad at gaming unless your into linux gaming which is hit or miss.

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– MahaYoshi 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

So far, Linux gaming with Proton has gotten me pretty far. I’m rather impressed by how far gaming has come outside of Windows.

That said, I’m intentionally trying to stay away from more competitive stuff like Valorant for the moment so that my time can go towards “better things”, but if I ever do get back into “hardcore” gaming, I’ll probably bite the bullet and get something dedicated for Windows gaming.

It’s more expensive that way, but this is the year I start putting my money where my mouth is, and start supporting the open and free alternatives FIRST, and the big tech oligarchs only if necessary and only with whatever money I have to spare.

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– Wu_Flu_Ca_Choo 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You sir/ma'am are based

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– Swordguy5 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Thanks for the tip pede! I installed that shit as soon as I read your post.

I know its not enough to be air tight, nothing ever is, but I intend to at least make those bastards WORK to spy on my loopy ass.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– DiveAndBait 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

ShutUp Windows 10 is partnered with Microsoft??

https://i.imgur.com/oLaEew0.png

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– Vapourface 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

great, so it might be a salve only?. There is another similar program, cant remember the name now..

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– AppleSauceBoss 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

I hope my farts get transcribed and someone has to read them.

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– annamaga 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

brrrAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAp

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– PurpleTea 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

"To stop Windows 10 from collecting your speech, you must also go to the Speech, inking and typing section and click Stop getting to know me. This same area contains options for restricting Microsoft from collecting data from your camera, microphone, contacts and calendar."

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– daivigh 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

That's why I use Linux.

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– AppleSauceBoss 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Don't they have you at the physical layer though? And assuming you fabricate your own mobo etc, what about the transport layer? All your packets are belong to them.

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– deleted 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0
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– BatteryBaron 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This right here. I'm a Linux admin and this us how I roll.

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– tstr 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

A guy from Intel made it known many years ago that 3G cellular tech is on the CPU die. A trickle of power from the power supply is all it takes to access your PC remotely over the cellular networks.

Yes, everyone is completely owned 100%. They only way to win is not to play.

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– muhqtardtho 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

That's why I'm morpheus in john wick.

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– FroagOnWin 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

This is why people were using libreboot

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– Choctaw 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Former linux engineer. I use it at home for everything I can. There is a problem that some of the software I need to use for my current means of income doesn't work on linux well or at all, namely fusion360 and some other fabrication software, and the CNC program I use, no -- they will not run under wine at all. Aside from the current rage of subscriptions for programs, being stuck with the windows platform particularly sucks.

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– VetforTrump 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I need linux

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– redtoe-skipper 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Download LMDE or MXlinux if you are more adventurous.

For most windows adepts, LMDE seems the most obvious way.

Without compromising your current windows install, you can download it and burn the iso on a bootable usb.

Reboot with your USB as the bootable device (F12 bootorder) and enjoy the live CD. You can play around and get accustomed. However, you cannot save anything.

Another option would be to dual install.

Personally, I have a win7 pro business ssd and a personal LMDE plus a persistent MXlinux USB.

Depending on what I want to do, I simply plugin the right drive and boot.

However, this presupposes a dislocation of software and data, meaning, keeping data on an additional drive or drives.

However, if you really want to go paranoid: go Quebes.

For those wanting to know howto:

plug into your favorite youtube third party app:

  • howto make linux live CD win10.
  • howto make dual boot win10 and linux
  • mxlinux
  • Quebes
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– cee8hooz 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

One thing: I wouldn't advise people live usb as erasing it later demands cleaning usb partition table with dd after looking where is device and unmounting on root or after sudo. Not good for newbies, as if they would chose wrong mount point they might fuck data on hard drive instead. Dvd is cheaper.

Unless they agree not using those usb for other purposes later (of course they could install other system on that USB,but using it for data would be harder). Then everything be fine except one usb less.

It is possible to have 2 or more systems on one computer,but it is again messing with partitons manualy not recomended for newbies not knowing what they do.

Also: LMDE or MXlinux have smaller repository. That's why I would advise rather Debian or Mint or Ubuntu. On liveDVD - Doesn't matter,but if you installed it on hard drive it is self-limitation. Of course average linux app might be not as good as commercial one costing hundreds of dollars,but this tools are really powerful.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Not bad advice.

Most of it is countered with being able to use gparted or equivalent. For Windows users the effect is the same. New partition table and you are good to go. It does not affect the USB tht much over time given the price/ use of ssd type storage.

When it comes to ssd's, indeed, using a livecd on ssd is not the way to go, and DVD and CD-disks are also a good alternative, except, if that is what one would want: a clean OS without clutter, despite it's limitations

one step further would be a live-cd with persistence, where either the root partition (OS level), home partition (data) or both are made persistent. MXlinux in that sense is a very good option, as those features are native. It also allows for multiple setups. clean, en several amended. Though I would not recommend to mingle it with data.

It all starts with the outline of what one wants where convenience and paranoia influence the ultimate personal setup.

With regard to repositories, I beg to differ, since this is a matter of what exactly do you want to use it for.

This brings into view personal use.

  1. A nice Gui and window to use. That is basically what windows is, right? LMDE, Mint, Ubuntu are nice.

  2. Libre office, libreprojects, browsers like firefox, brave, dissenter, chromium, etc, are all there. for Video: VLC, SMplayer, etc, For audio: Rhythymbox, audacity, etc, PDF: docviewer or even masterpdf (MXlinux ,free). Picture and photo manipulation: GIMP and drawing. A host of very good Scan and OCR is available for all OS, Screenshots: ksnip. Thunderbird for mail, calendar, RSS,

A special mention for platforms like zoom. When well looked at, these are insecure and are resource intensive. There are several lightweight alternative that are both free and work very well. For chat, video call etc there is epiphany and more.

See also signal, hexchat and elements.io, riot, sessions (combines with lokinet)

  1. Games: Playonlinux is available for all OS's, including whine, Steam. It may take a little tinkering.

These are general purpose packages and for most computers the OS mentioned function properly out of the box. That includes bluetooth connected devices like headphones and speakerboxes.

  1. more exotic stuff usually is discovered while getting used to using the terminal. Think of lokinet, sniffers and spiders, audit software, photorec to retrieve data from crashed drives, host-files to build a local DNS alternative to prevent shadow banning, youtube-dl (though a nice gui also exists) ffmpeg for audio and video manipulation, etc.

If one were in need for a total enterprise system a la oracle or something, adempiere and the likes are available. It takes some tinkering, but there are a ton of howto's available.

This also goes for programming languages like python, c#, etc, database building like mysql, postgres, etc.

Even more exotic when it comes to regex, where files can be manipulated, etc.

  1. hooking up the phone to your linux OS these days is quite simple. You get instant access to the drive to transfer files or with ADB (easy install) to manipulate other thins. The only thing a bit difficult, is when you want to jailbreak your phone. Windows in that regard is more simple, amazingly, especially considering android is based on unix, as is Mac and linux.

This then becomes a free secure environment to learn knew skills.

From this perspective, my recommendation is: do it and follow the steps to get familiar:

-> Live CD -> dual boot or two ssd's -> drop windows all together as you really do not need it.
-> expand into terminal to gain deeper understanding and new skills.

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

https://distrowatch.com/

There are doubts about systemd in Linux (distrust about possible NSA involvement or distrust for RedHat company being now branch of IBM) so if not Debian you can use Devuan. If you not fear it use Debian: netinstall image (requiring writting it into cd or pendrive - better try with cd if you are new to it - and internet connection) https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-10.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso or "testing" (not so unstable - but it may not be almost rock-stable like previous one "stable") version having newest versions of software: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

Ubuntu, Debian or Mint are currently having biggest app repository (meaning most applications ready to install and that's the key if you are new or lazy enough to not want to recompile everything and get the system quite fast way.

Also: there is Qubes OS using virtualization as layer of possible protection.

But if you are completely new to it: use Mint - burn liveDVD and start from it https://linuxmint.com/download.php On dvd you will have only most basic apps however.

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– pearlrevolver 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Just disabled access to camera, mic, files, but not sure about the keylogger. Thanks for the info!

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– Swordguy5 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Another pede posted "shutup10." Its a teensy little app that allows you to murder all the outgoing nonsense to microsoft. I just installed it and it runs fine, you might try that as a redundancy.

There are a LOT of different things microsoft uses to spy on us... Short of going to Linux this seems the most secure.

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– cee8hooz 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

by the way - why you hated mint and ubuntu ? Disadvantages in your case are ?

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

It can be complicated indeed. Linux was build on similar structure to Unix and Unix is in fact older than DOS system which served in servers. Made by geek "autists" so many things are not so user friendly as should.

Also the quality sometimes differs because if some software is not done by some company (mostly interested in server things) it is done by private programmers hobbysts doing it in their free time or people at best living from donations/by foundations/ by some scientists/"hackers" (white hats so it is safe) and so on. Not bad definitely - good,private and affordable.

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Simply knowing basics is indeed investment.

As I mentioned - things allowing to give your data to 3rd person like microsoft or the government are not so good - and what is also bad both government and microsoft or other companies (especially those offering other REALLY satanic idea called "cloud" - keeping your private data or applications on somebody other computers) because can be hacked by criminal hackers,what would cause identity theft, being robbed (internet banking or data about your house) or something as bad...

Even if Microsoft and Google and Facebook wouldn't be spying people - and they ARE spying people consider this thing: what was found on Hunter Binden laptop except those paedophile porn ? Proofs of corruption - too, and also important things about his private life

Understanding basics how system works and basics about security is CRUCIAL in those times. To not open false internet bank transfer or virus,to not be got in the nigerian scam (no racism,it was first used by scammers from Nigeria) and so on.

It will be also offtopic but despite this man being maybe demoncrap supporter (but not so bad - rather quite good guy): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKW58MS12g

And you know for example look at this - you should know the basics to "appreciate" it really:

https://greatawakening.win/p/12hl5I6e4A/eight-ppl-in-wi-knew-voting-mach/c/

User: Hyatt_meeting Password: Hyat123

But also was so (un)secure like the rest,but not only no password for machines but SSID was "2020vote" and other "gbvote". And it also requires knowing what SSID is.

Because I personally know enough I almost choke from attack of laugh after seeing this...

Because as user Darvyn stated there:

You know I've been doing computers sense [since?] 1990. That email is by far the most retarded thing I've ever seen.

Because it is. Even if it weren't a fraudant & stolen elections - it absolutely were, then even trained monkey could hack it.

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– 50_stars_for_freedom [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Glad it’s helping people :)

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– deleted 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0
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– MichelesLeftNut 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Linux life ftw.

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– snogard 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

for those who want to switch to linux and still have that windows-like graphical interface, kubuntu could be your first start.

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– DiveAndBait 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

They said you can turn it off.

But it's options is software. Mmm....

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– Swordguy5 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Try "shutup 10." Free app another Pede pointed out. That way something not run by microsoft is doing the killing, so they cannot just switch it off at will and call it a "glitche."

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– fje33 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Linux mint, Ubuntu, Fedora...choose your flavor. Aaaand the operating system is FREE!

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– Swordguy5 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Have you run them? Is it difficult to learn? Are they faster or slower?

I've never run any OS other than windows and androids, but I am about to try it out. If you have experience give me a recommendation for us newbs.

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– lustmorden 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Linux Mint. Stupid easy. My Windows 10 machines keep fucking up their connections to my printer. Or my mouse randomly becomes unresponsive. I have never had that happen on Mint. I swear Windows has gotten worse over the years and Linux OSes just get better.

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– fje33 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I would suggest linux mint. Easy to navigate and most features are similar to windows. Run a dual boot system to start just in the event you don't like it. Migrate away from their matrix as quick as you can. If you're into solidworks (cad/engineering) I'd keep windows and run a dual OS system just to use software like SW. Another site to navigate to is OSALT...which gives you alternate software from windows to Linux.

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– BatteryBaron 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Fedora is easily 10x faster ux wise than windoze on the same machine.

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– fje33 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Try linux mint. Similar to Windows environment. Best part is all the software is free. Not as bad as people think. Give it time and you'll never look back.

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– Puncake150 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Do any of those OS support file transfer by any chance?

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– cee8hooz 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You know where linux (as kid of old good unix) was always the king ? On servers. What file transfer app do you need ? Doesn't matter - Probably might be in repository already... :P

The problem is with games mostly. And with some CAD applications maybe. And ok,LibreOffice has not all those graphics bells and whistles which MS Office have. The rest is quite good and you don't have to pay for those apps.

Having Linux is really like thing Q was saying many times:

You have more than you know.

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– fje33 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Which file transfer software or provider are you currently using?

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– Puncake150 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Windows to any of those.

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– QEBL486 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Use ubuntu, it’s free and a fast OS

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– tstr 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

https://ameliorated.info/

Windows 10 AME

"Windows 10 AME aims at delivering a stable, non-intrusive yet fully functional build of Windows 10 to anyone, who requires the Windows operating system natively. Spyware systems, which are abundant in Windows 10 by default, have not been disabled using group policy, registry entries or various other workarounds – they have been entirely removed and deleted from the system, on an executable-level. This includes Windows Update, and any related services intended to re-patch the system via what is essentially a universal backdoor. Core applications, such as the included Edge web-browser, Windows Media Player, Cortana, as well as any appx applications, have also been successfully eliminated. The total size of removed files is about 2 GB."

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– Bowster 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

From the link: The good news is that the Windows 10 keylogging function can be disabled, or so it would appear. Clicking Settings on the Start menu’s left pane, followed by clicking the Privacybutton, a Windows 10 user will find a selection box to turn it off – all the way at the bottom, of course.

“Once in Privacy, go to the General section and Turn off Send Microsoft info about how I write to help us improve typing and writing in the future,” Spector explains.

Read: Bill Gates dodges questions about meetings with Jeffrey Epstein during AMA “While you’re there, examine the other options and consider if there’s anything else here that you may want to change.”

To stop Windows 10 from collecting your speech, you must also go to the Speech, inking and typing section and click Stop getting to know me. This same area contains options for restricting Microsoft from collecting data from your camera, microphone, contacts and calendar.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– ThomasMaker 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I stopped at windows 8.1 because a source that has yet to be wrong(over the last 25 years...) described win 10 as spyware in OS form....

I'm sure I will use win 10 for an offline computer(CAD, video editing, CNC controll etc if new software necessitates it)but I will never go online with anything above 8.1 and my next online PC(only use desktop unless I have no other choice and is on the move) will be a Linux box...

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– navycuda 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

might be time to go back to ubuntu...

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I would advise Mint over Ubuntu. Community driven > Company Driven,because of less chance of invigilation.

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

caveman here: what do you mean, 'invigoration'...?

Sorry,clicked autocorrecting too fast and fucked text. Invigilation. INVIGILATION. Being spied. Corrected.Sorry.

If I'm wanting them to switch, what version would be best for them? Are they going to find they can't do certain things on a Linux OS?

In such case good option would be leave windows for them,and install linux too, but it is much more complicated. Installing system isn't easy for "caveman",even despite there are instructions in net how to do it. Older people might have problem (I am not kid,being over 30,but people over 40 or 50 could have problems and it is perfectly natural). My dad is over 65's and use old Windows 7 on some old junk because it was too hard for him and is too hard for him to learn more (ok,he has even problems with closing the windows ;) ),so I perfectly understand some people can have problems even with installing.

Easiest thing would be liveDVD with linux mint I mentioned...

There is of course possibility to do such thing like having 2 systems too. But you first shall know what you are doing / have second computer to browse in net what you did wrong (hard way and annoying) / or ask member of your family being most competent about computers to do such a thing. Reinstalling/installing operating system isn't too hard,but as you claim "caveman" - isn't too easy for all too. And making 2 systems... Ooouch bit harder.Possible,but bit harder, because you must do partitioning, order with installing (linux last) and so. As partitioning means usually erasing all the data on the disk I wouldn't advise it person who was not earlier installing operating system many times.

Unfortunately most newest games are for Windows. Of course you could use Steam on Linux, it is probable that your kids use Steam already - but using Steam is even worse cancer because using Steam you/your kids no have game on hard drive of the computer. Steam is "Software as the service" meaning you lease it - not only because of license,but also because you don't have access to it without internet or you/your kids would lose it if Steam would some day bankrupt,if internet would fail, or if their account would be hacked

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

ok corrected text,read again if something not understood.

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– odyseuss 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Windows is mild in comparison. Check out what google knows about you - https://takeout.google.com/

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– cee8hooz 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

And again what is worst - majority not even know,that we cannot sue them for that, because of licenses we not read or we agreed not knowing what it mean.

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– QdaPeeps 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

My brother-in-law (IT guy) knows how to turn it off, but every update turns it back on. He came up with a work around or something, some way to bypass it being re-activated.

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– Analophigus 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I still have windows 7!

Doubt it does much help though.

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– GovernmentSUCKS 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Time to sue them too. Maybe all their buildings will be struck by lightening and the water sprinkler valves will be closed.

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You cannot. Using Windows means you agreed their license. Answered to u/gobby bellow. Fucking creepy law.Impossible to sue.

Commercial licenses many times suck & are real cancer limiting ownership.

Many people in USA don't understand what fuckery of law are some of those licenses of software. But it is rather important problem really,especially as more and more things (including cars) contain electronics and software.

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– gobby 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I think there is an aspect of law that states a person can't be in a 'contract' if they don't understand the contract. Who understands that everything they do, every key stroke, is being recorded? I still think the right type of lawyer could make a name for himself / herself if they started a case.

I agree to the 'terms of service' nonsense and would like to see somebody challenge it.

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– 50_stars_for_freedom [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2974057/how-to-turn-off-windows-10s-keylogger-yes-it-still-has-one.html

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– Cyphr 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This article is from 2015, before Windows 10 was officially released.

You all fell for another troll post... very slow learners.

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– 50_stars_for_freedom [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Windows 10 was released July, 2015

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history

Article: September, 2015

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– gobby 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Saved to read later, but if true, sounds like a class action lawsuit for some enterprising lawyer to prosecute.

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– cee8hooz 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

What lawsuit. Nobody really reads the license. Devil is in the detail...

see that also: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/26/why-american-farmers-hacking-own-tractors

Thing is non-free licenses of the products are contracts which take away some of your laws about using your property or take some of your laws because you use some products. And more and more products are sold with licenses instead of only with warranty. License is about producer or seller laws,not yours usually...

And as license is law agreement - you cannot sue them,because you "agreed" ! by installing/using their product

And those globalist scums with their Great Reset want all things to be leased (lease = borrow not own) under such "licenses". "You will own nothing,you will lease everything".It is socialism really if you cannot OWN anything. If you are owner you can do everything (at least lawful) with your property. Licences are usually limitations of ownership !

GNU ( philosophy by Richard Stallman (maybe this guy is hippe and near left but he is fucking right about this thing): https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html.en

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html

and really those "free software" isn't meant originally "for free": https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.en.html

It is like for example selling tractor which you are allowed to do everything (including repairing it). Because taking your rights about product you fucking bought whan you don't want do anything evil is NOT fair at all !

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