Oh, the wreath idea is fantastic! If your HOA states you can’t have a wreath on your door, well, that’s just un-american and you should probably move. ??♀️?? I say remove whatever is in your window and do all of the things mentioned above which would be much more obnoxious and obvious than a little sign in a your window. Also, please report back to us what you wind up doing and the response you receive. ??
Hey OP, i also live in an HOA and this last round of elections we actually installed some maga pedes into power. Prior to gaining a foothold on the board, we actually used saul alinskies rules for radicals against them. we started with a flier campaign to get awareness among the sheep, called a special session once we had a quorum, and proceeded to vote on what we wanted.
I know this is seperate from your issue but wanted to share.
My suggestion to your problem would be to formally request permission to display your sign, it sounds like you have your husband already on the board so id imagine it would only require one or two more members.
Another course of action would be to randomly put the sign up during peak visibility, once the hoa responds, take it down for a few days and then put it back up. HOA's have to go through formal process to actually impose a fine on you. at some point the hoa members and the complaining karens will give up, Saul Alinskie's rules for radicals baby, amp up the conflict
Is it an image of Trump or a Trump sign? If it's a sign you may have to take it down, however if it's just a picture of POTUS, judging by that clause they have no legal standing. You could put photos of Trump all over your house if you wanted to.
A sign is defined as "a gesture used to convey instruction or information." A photo of Trump doesnt do that, it's just an image, you could even argue its art.
The item in question is simply a picture of Trump looking out of the window. Its posted on the inside. Board member complaining is huuuuuuge TDS infected college professor lib. I'm chuckling so much that we've triggered her so bad. I think she can see it from her own deck. KEK.
True. I know most of us only think of Biden if he does some new whacky thing and ignore him the rest of the time, so it IS fun knowing they're still obsessing.
Most HOA’s have rules but no recourse for breaking them such as fines etc. usually just makes bad blood . I would look into that aspect if you don't really care what they think.
Many of them will fine you and it’s not at all unusual in those communities to restrict signage. Probably some shitty little leftists got triggered, but they’re also the same petty, pathetic half-wits that would turn you in with a picture of a bird in your window. It’s the only way they can feel like they have any ”power”, the same types who would walk around looking for “violations” to report to the HOA.
Maybe on one of those room divider screens that you see in movies and TV. The kind that someone is always changing clothes behind. Put the sign on that, place it in front of the window, and now you have both privacy and the display.
Sold real estate for a decade. All associations are little hell holes of communism and socialism in practice. Freedom costs less than their stuck up pretentious bullshit. Sell and move. It never gets better.
This note is referencing the specific "poster" you have in the window. Take it down and put up a different one. Force the issue, see who the commies are, and then out them all.
Another idea: have your board member husband introduce an amendment to the rules.
HOAs are simply an means to implement Agenda 21, and 2030 by citizen police, via municipal planning commissions requiring an HOA in developments and standardized rules.
It’s all still contract law, IMO, I am not a lawyer.
The paragraph you reference is really poorly written, or maybe a portion of several paragraphs.
If your docs don’t specifically limit owners and tenants from signs, you very likely are in a strong position. Complaints don’t matter, only what you agreed to in the CC&R’s. If there is no limitation on signs for owners/tenants now, once the HOA realizes they don’t have the power to make you take it/them down they will try to change the rules, and you may be grandfathered in, know that.
Moral of the story, freedom is limited in an HOA, IMO.
Love all the tremendous ideas here, Pedes. I'll keep you informed of our course of action. First we are going to consult the condo docs to see what they actually say. I do not trust the excerpt from the TDS infected board member (chief complainer). I like the path of arguing it's not a sign. Just doing my patriotic duty and putting up a picture of the 45th President of the United States.
Instead, integrate the sign into the blinds themselves. Like, cut the sign into strips, then adhere the strips to the individual blinds so when the blinds are closed, it forms the image of the sign in the window.
Alternatively, paint the message on the inside of your blinds.
Either way, you're no longer displaying a "sign." Instead you just have decorative blinds.
Else fails, threaten to erect a 40 foot HAM radio tower.
Have husband write an approval letter to himself. Anyone else have any sports stuff up? If you take it down, everything comes down. Also what would it be advertising? Supporting perhaps....
Hey Betsy, I love all the comments. The only thing I can add is to object to DJT being labeled as ‘prior President’ because that infers that Biden is legitimate. Let them know you will only respond to their notice after they correct the correspondence, or try to prove Biden has done one good thing. However you deal with this, remember to have fun with it and you will be winning, winning, winning!
Get a life sized standup of Trump to display “inside your blinds” all day long. With blinds fully open. Obvs.
OMG this ! I'm going to try this.
https://www.hoamanagement.com/hoa-political-signs/
This ^^^. There are so many ways you can play this. Depends on how much fun you want to have.
“No signs or other advertising devices”
They will argue it is an advertising device.
Now I'm wondering how to make that holographic image...
...and, of course, it will include bongos and a white headbanging cat.
u/#Catdance
I love this dang cat...
A holographic Dancing Trump would sell like hotcakes, LOL
I've literally spent the last hour looking into laser projectors...
I think projecting "Trump Won!" on some low flying clouds might be a fun idea.
Oh, the wreath idea is fantastic! If your HOA states you can’t have a wreath on your door, well, that’s just un-american and you should probably move. ??♀️?? I say remove whatever is in your window and do all of the things mentioned above which would be much more obnoxious and obvious than a little sign in a your window. Also, please report back to us what you wind up doing and the response you receive. ??
"Fuck off"...sounds about right
I like that. Has a certain...je ne sais quoi.
Hey OP, i also live in an HOA and this last round of elections we actually installed some maga pedes into power. Prior to gaining a foothold on the board, we actually used saul alinskies rules for radicals against them. we started with a flier campaign to get awareness among the sheep, called a special session once we had a quorum, and proceeded to vote on what we wanted.
I know this is seperate from your issue but wanted to share. My suggestion to your problem would be to formally request permission to display your sign, it sounds like you have your husband already on the board so id imagine it would only require one or two more members. Another course of action would be to randomly put the sign up during peak visibility, once the hoa responds, take it down for a few days and then put it back up. HOA's have to go through formal process to actually impose a fine on you. at some point the hoa members and the complaining karens will give up, Saul Alinskie's rules for radicals baby, amp up the conflict
^ brilliant
Swap it out with a Biden poster and see if they still bitch. Science.
I like this idea. If you still get complaints then ok; but if complaints stop I'd go back to Trump and show this is only because of political bias.
What if you had a cross in your window? Just wondering.
Is it an image of Trump or a Trump sign? If it's a sign you may have to take it down, however if it's just a picture of POTUS, judging by that clause they have no legal standing. You could put photos of Trump all over your house if you wanted to.
A sign is defined as "a gesture used to convey instruction or information." A photo of Trump doesnt do that, it's just an image, you could even argue its art.
The item in question is simply a picture of Trump looking out of the window. Its posted on the inside. Board member complaining is huuuuuuge TDS infected college professor lib. I'm chuckling so much that we've triggered her so bad. I think she can see it from her own deck. KEK.
Then its neither a sign nor an advertisement so it's not in breach. Seems like shes clutching at straws here.
Hahaha! "Prior"
Rent free.
True. I know most of us only think of Biden if he does some new whacky thing and ignore him the rest of the time, so it IS fun knowing they're still obsessing.
Most HOA’s have rules but no recourse for breaking them such as fines etc. usually just makes bad blood . I would look into that aspect if you don't really care what they think.
Many of them will fine you and it’s not at all unusual in those communities to restrict signage. Probably some shitty little leftists got triggered, but they’re also the same petty, pathetic half-wits that would turn you in with a picture of a bird in your window. It’s the only way they can feel like they have any ”power”, the same types who would walk around looking for “violations” to report to the HOA.
Another dumb okie with the best info
Actually if you are fined by an HOA and you do not pay it, they can put a lien on your house or your property. Fact!
Perhaps put it on an inner wall facing the street and raise your shades. They cant tell you what to put on your walls can they?
Lit up like a rock concert too.
Or a lit silhouette at night....displayed ON the blinds. What can they say? "No President Trump allowed in your condo!".
Maybe on one of those room divider screens that you see in movies and TV. The kind that someone is always changing clothes behind. Put the sign on that, place it in front of the window, and now you have both privacy and the display.
Put it on the shades
Is a projection considered a sign? Because I’d get a big ass fuckin’ projector and shine a Trump sign on the garage door as a response.
Or a nice Trump BatSignal in the sky over the complex :P
Sold real estate for a decade. All associations are little hell holes of communism and socialism in practice. Freedom costs less than their stuck up pretentious bullshit. Sell and move. It never gets better.
Your "art installation" is not a sign, it has no words.
Or, play by lefty rules and drag it out as long as possible.
It’s not a sign or an advertising device.??♂️
This note is referencing the specific "poster" you have in the window. Take it down and put up a different one. Force the issue, see who the commies are, and then out them all.
Another idea: have your board member husband introduce an amendment to the rules.
HOAs are simply an means to implement Agenda 21, and 2030 by citizen police, via municipal planning commissions requiring an HOA in developments and standardized rules.
It’s all still contract law, IMO, I am not a lawyer.
The paragraph you reference is really poorly written, or maybe a portion of several paragraphs.
If your docs don’t specifically limit owners and tenants from signs, you very likely are in a strong position. Complaints don’t matter, only what you agreed to in the CC&R’s. If there is no limitation on signs for owners/tenants now, once the HOA realizes they don’t have the power to make you take it/them down they will try to change the rules, and you may be grandfathered in, know that.
Moral of the story, freedom is limited in an HOA, IMO.
Just play hardball and set up a HAM radio tower in your backyard until they back down.
Love all the tremendous ideas here, Pedes. I'll keep you informed of our course of action. First we are going to consult the condo docs to see what they actually say. I do not trust the excerpt from the TDS infected board member (chief complainer). I like the path of arguing it's not a sign. Just doing my patriotic duty and putting up a picture of the 45th President of the United States.
Write a “T” “R” “U” “M” “P” on each of your windows
Hang a flag if it’s allowed
I have flown three American flag and the blue lives matter flag. They can't complain about those!
I’m pretty sure if you fly an American flag everyone knows who you voted for
First mistake is living in an HOA.
You could just change your wifi name to "Trump Won" And if you have a guest wifi on your router, name that one "Biden is a pedo"
Just put a sign that says for rent, by President Trump
Stop displaying the sign.
Instead, integrate the sign into the blinds themselves. Like, cut the sign into strips, then adhere the strips to the individual blinds so when the blinds are closed, it forms the image of the sign in the window.
Alternatively, paint the message on the inside of your blinds.
Either way, you're no longer displaying a "sign." Instead you just have decorative blinds.
Else fails, threaten to erect a 40 foot HAM radio tower.
A pic of trump doesn't fit the regulation.
Driveway chalk
Have husband write an approval letter to himself. Anyone else have any sports stuff up? If you take it down, everything comes down. Also what would it be advertising? Supporting perhaps....
Spray paint your grass
“Or other advertising devices”....... is this an advertising device?
Nope.
That HOA probably wouldnt like me. (Same rule applies here - Exterior of the residence. kek
Hey Betsy, I love all the comments. The only thing I can add is to object to DJT being labeled as ‘prior President’ because that infers that Biden is legitimate. Let them know you will only respond to their notice after they correct the correspondence, or try to prove Biden has done one good thing. However you deal with this, remember to have fun with it and you will be winning, winning, winning!
Frame it and position it 1mm from the same window.