Kek! The laws of the universe and science never changes, but our understand of it does. Just pisses me off so many people won't even consider to challenge the current authorities and trust them blindly.
"These guys just don't understand anything. The catholic church wanted to prosecute Galileo for his research. You're still the church in this analogy."
Hey moron, thats the point of the post! You guys are persecuting well meaning scientists and doctors who don't go along with the established theory pushed by your media and big tech. The equivalent of the catholic church in this scenario. The well meaning doctors, scientists, and whistleblowers are all being censored and persecuted! I know not all of you believe the wuhan lab leak trump said he had evidence on over a year ago. But at least some of you might be waking up. You guys have the power to cancel anyone just as the church had the power to silence galileo. All you have to do is ban them from social media, and not for racist or offensive shit but for scientific well meaning data! Thats why we're not even on reddit you'd ban us! Not even saying we're 100% right on everything we say but the bulk of you don't even give us the benefit of the doubt to research into it. So closed minded. Oh the irony! It's funny, then sad, then funny again until you realize how history is repeating itself. Just wakeup. Look into ivermectin and india if any of you over on reddit have a shred of tegridy
My reply to Illustrious-Ruin-349 because i know you are reading this over at reddit
Here's what he said:
"It's basically a mix of flatearthers and people going on about ivermectin/the supposed suppressing of fringe doctors/scientists(Cahill, Bridle stc)"
My response:
So do you not see the point of the meme? Banning these doctors from social media and suppressing them? Calling them fringe. You know who that reminds me of? Galileo... you are proving my point.
As for the flat earth debate, i personally do not believe in flat earth, however it appears some people on this board do, since i practice what i preach, i'm not going to downvote or ridicule them like you closed minded sheep at reddit. I will carefully examine any evidence they may have, weigh the probability and if they can convince me then i will stand with them though personally i severely doubt it. It's called tegridy, and open-mindedness, something you sheep do not possess. think for yourselves don't follow what the government and media tell you! that's the same as believing the catholic church in Galileo's time all you guys got is appealing to authority it's weak and a fallacy
"I mean, you can see a crucifix in the upper left corner of the painting... even if you don't know anything about history, you should notice those weird clothes the scientists are wearing..."
My response: This isn't about believing in Christ. You miss the point of the meme. If you didn't know at the time Religion was considered proven science by them, i know hard to look back at history you think scientists always wore lab coats. Point is they were the authority. My original argument in the meme has nothing to do with religion at all. The point is they had the authority at the time as "The trusted experts" anyone who disagreed was persecuted and silenced. Just as your media and big tech is doing to anyone who disagrees with what is "established" Can you not see my point? Or do you understand this meme's point of history repeating but don't want to admit that you're wrong on this one.
What he said:
"Nah, it's a "critique" of "the infaliability" of science, conveniently overlooking the fact that science is a recursive examination and elimination of possibilities, not a declaration of absolutism. The fact that science changes is proof that it works."
My response: exactly right on my argument at least you got that right, the part where you are wrong is suggesting that right now the "experts" could be just as wrong as the "experts" of Galileo's years I'm not anti science I'm anti dogma and the bastardization of science, science requires an open mind
LOL I had never seen that before. Pretty sure all those actors/writers are hardcore leftists but Mac’s point is valid and actually made very well. There is a 100% chance current scientific consensus is wrong about all kinds of things. Not trusting scientific consensus is how all the big advances have been made.
eh, he wasn't anonymous but i get your drift. I think socrates is better, he'd be the first i can think of although he wasn't anonymous either. Just liked asking questions and challenging authority and demagogues
Gotcha I thought when you said everything that Socrates did was through Plato, you meant Plato had taught Socrates and everything Socrates did was learned through Plato. But yes since Socrates did not write himself we are not sure what is directly him and what was added by Plato.
Doctored NASA photos, fake moon landings, fake Mars rovers.....I happen to think the Earth isn’t quite what we’ve been told. Flat, hollow with holes at both poles, elliptical? Who fucking knows at this point?
Our entire history is lies stacked on lies. I just want the truth. No more lies and deception. My mind is open and I’m ready to finally get some real answers.
Q said lots of things, most notably disinformation is necessary. We fucking research and verify. Everything. We don’t blindly accept bullshit as truth.
Lots of google earth fuckery around the poles. Ever hear of Admiral Byrd? Many things about our world have been kept from us for control purposes.
You can do all the fucking geometry you want, but in the end it’s just theory until we are told the truth about other anomalies.
Spherical earth can be repeatedly verified by independent and personal experiments. Engineering is also full of examples of designs that compensate for round earth, designs which would be inaccurate or fail if the earth weren't round.
This one, for example, was used by the Greeks to estimate the size of the Earth remarkably accurately.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
You do realize even your scientism preist NDT said that works with a flat and spherical earth right?
Come back to me when you can find a single scientific experiment (that can pass through the scientific method) with defined dependent and independent variables.
I can save you the time and assure you that no scientific experiment exists that we can use to validate the claim of spherical shape, or motion.
OK, I'll play along. Here's a small selection of the most obvious round earth evidence.
It looks round. There's a horizon and objects disappear behind it bottom first. On a flat earth, we should be seeing distant objects tens and hundreds of miles away. We don't. The curve can be confirmed to exist using lasers, flat earthers have tried and failed to debunk it. If you think the earth is flat, what should a round Earth look like?
We can predict the movement of celestial bodies (all of them round) perfectly using the heliocentric round earth model. Sun angles, sunrise and sunset times, same for the Moon, all predictable to the second all over the planet all year round. Flat earth model says they, uh, move around up there.
We understand why it's nighttime in Asia while it's the afternoon in America and morning in Europe. Impossible on a flat earth, can't illuminate part of a flat plane with a point light source, it will all be lit all of the time.
We can understand and predict different phenomena: lower sun angles and larger day length variation further from the equator all the way up to white nights, polar night and midnight sun near the poles. Midnight sun in the north while it's polar night in the south. I live in the north and I'm experiencing it now. Completely impossible to explain with a flat earth.
Seasons. Opposite seasons on opposite sides of the earth. No real seasons near the equator. All perfectly understood, explained and predicted.
Satellites and GPS. Orbital mechanics are well understood, I've worked in the industry. Low orbit satellites move in a perfectly controlled and predictable manner, communication windows depend on line of sight based on a round earth model. It's real and it works. Impossible on a flat earth.
Tides. Again, perfectly understood, explained and predicted, impossible on a flat earth.
Rotation of the earth. 15° every hour, easy to confirm with gyroscopes. Flat earthers tried and failed to debunk it.
Plane traffic. Many connecting flights in the southern hemisphere would be out of the range of current passenger planes. They aren't.
But hey, let's ignore all that because a neckbeard in a 360p youtube video told me we're being lied to and the field outside my house looks flat. The only thing flat earth theory can prove is that the Dunning-Kruger effect is real.
Na man, it's literally the opposite for every point you made or you're just wrong.
high powered modern telescopes can see WAY further than any academic curvature test suggests we should. Humans have limited eye sight but technology allows us to see further.
it's sophisticated fake science, they knew the paths and created believable fake science to go behind it.
wrong, it's possible between the moon light and sun light. They move in circles around the circular earth, the circles grow and shrink which causes seasons
GPS is real but the satellites are high in the atmosphere on advanced balloons, check our satellite crashe videos... they all have a big "parachute" aka a deflated balloon attached.
tides are not impossible, use your imagination. Cabal can cause tsunamis I doubt the tide is complicated.
plane traffic, this is just blatantly false. Most aviators operate using a flat earth map. No flights every go over the north or south pole. Many flight routes ignore the quickest route on a globe and use the quickest route on a flat earth map.
You'll probably laugh at all this because it challenges something you've been indoctrinated about since kindergarten.
You need to have an open mind or this isn't the place for you.
Almost every single astronomer who says it is round has circumstantial evidence they belong to Satan cults.
Proof (just a statement of bs to back up the bs? "This is wrong because it's wrong" nonsense?)
what. Prove it, again
Sources, because it's almost certainly not the "balloon" in the way you think it is
"use your imagination" to explain flat earth tides? Excuse me? Alright I'll make up some random bullshit and make it true, too.
If you knew aviation you'd know that what you're saying is an argument that doesn't follow. Maps operate on a small enough scale that a normal spherical to flat projection typically works, except when you get to more extreme north and southward directions. On the larger scale, routes do not fit well on a flat earth map (which projection do you even mean, there's a lot of different flat maps out there) because they curve along the projected flat map instead of being a straight line, typically. Again, that all depends on what kind of map projection you're looking at.
I laugh at this because I've worked in fields and around people that worked in said fields in which round earth is an absolute and designs would fail if it were not.
I have a very open mind; I'm open to hearing arguments, and when I know they are false I'm open to refuting them when they are incorrect.
Do you know how many astronomers, astrophysicists, physicists, engineers, pilots, and more can say with absolute certitude from personal experience that the earth is indeed round? If all of them have enough circumstantial evidence to you that they belong in Satan cults, YOU have enough circumstantial evidence to belong to a Satan cult.
Even fucking Q said that "No.", the earth is not flat. Q post 2622.
Damn the awakening is going to be so hard for you. You need to be much more open minded. Anyone who has read Q should atlwast be saying "well shit I disagree but anything is possible at this point" - especially with issues that are obviously heavily propagated in satanic hollywood and indoctrinated into people by age 5. We are taught to laugh at flat earthers before we learn basic math.
Goodluck in your awakening process; the end isn't for everyone.
Have you heard of the effect where long-range shots have to be adjusted vertically, depending on whether the shot is to the east or the west? On a flat and stationary earth, what would cause this?
“if you’re shooting West, your target’s gonna rotate up and towards us, which is gonna cause the bullets to hit lower.”
“if you’re facing east, the target’s going to be dropping and slightly moving away, which is gonna cause the hits to be higher.”
Jeremy points out these small errors can cause huge misses at greater distances than 1000 yards if you don’t pay attention to.
Now why this is important is, out to a thousand yards, you could have almost a full minute of correction due to Coriolis effect, depending on which direction you sighted in your zero. Now to show you guys just how much effect there’s going to be, we’re going to put on a little shooting demonstration here, I’ve got targets West and East of us, exactly 1000 yards in each direction.
I live, breath, and work in a world that requires round earth to function. If earth were not round nothing I do would work.
I'll try one on you: the sky never actually looks blue. It always looks dark green. Oh, you don't believe me? Satanic Hollywood always portrays it as blue, and you believe that? Must be hard learning the truth.
every flat earth video I've ever watched is the same. Statements proclaiming the truth of its existence with exactly no math, scientific observations or anything of the sort to back it up. The earth is not flat. Never has been. Not everything is a lie or conspiracy. Quit embarrassing yourselves.
There are countless engineering examples that compensate for and require round earth to function.
Do the experiment, and the math, and tell me still that the earth is flat. I could probably list a few dozen other things for you to check to again prove the earth is round.
the videos debunk themselves, all these flat earth videos are the same, they simply make declarations about the truth with nothing to back it up, or present extremely flawed misunderstandings of the actual math and physical phenomena that definitely prove it is an oblate spheroid. God did not make a flying pancake. Flat earthers have had thousands of years to provide some form of actual math or observation to make there flat earth work and have produced exactly nothing, because it doesn't.
Haha, obviously you watched none. They're filled with proof after proof after proof which can't be refuted by the globe-clan. Literally hundreds. Which is why they won't engage.
Neil Degrasse Tyson initially agreed to debate Eric Dubay on the Joe Rogan podcast last year, only to back out, as we knew he would. The debate would have been over in 10 minutes if he had.
If the globe-earthers are right, Tyson should have shamed Dubay into oblivion, effectively stifling the movement. Why would he back down? It would have been a massive victory for the mainstream establishment scientism cult!!!
Things that make you go hmmmmm?
It's the same script again and again from the establishment scientism cult. "We aren't going to bow down to their level and engage with their stupidity." This is done with every rock solid "conspiracy theory" out there. The list of examples is endless.
When they know they can't win, they don't engage. Simple as that.
The globe-earth propaganda doesn't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.
Ask any pilot some day why they don't course-correct their flight plans to account for the curvature of the earth. Easiest one in the book to prove/refute. They should be aiming their nose downwards several thousand feet per hour, otherwise they'd shoot off into "outer space".
But they don't, why is that? Perhaps these airPLANES are designed to fly over a flat PLANE? Hmmmmmm?????
It's a "big lie", which is why it seems so impossible to be true. The bigger it is, the easier it is to hide in plain sight.
I have. Like I said a familiar pattern emerges in every flat earth nonsense video. There is no actual "proof" provided. Merely statements provided by the creator that they expect you to take at face value a good example from one I saw that I remember most recently is "time and time again planar trigonometry has been proven to work better than spherical" which is absolutely made up nonsense neither of those things exist there is only "trigonometry"
"ask any pilot why they don't course correct" LOL this statement right here is everything wrong with flat earth "proofs"
this is your own hilarious and chilidish misunderstanding of the physical phenomena of our oblate spheroid earth. Airplanes do not need to "tip the nose down" constantly to fly level and horizontal. The definition of horizontal for any object on or above the earth is perpendicular to local gravity and the force of gravity always points roughly to the center of the earth. As an airplane continues its flight, it remains level there is no "tipping of the nose" it is flying at a constant altitude with respect to earths gravity and along a constant barometric pressure and air density needed for lift, it naturally follows the curve as any other object orbiting our center of gravity would.
just be honest you flat earth guys always failed math and science class didn't you? lol
Yeah this is where I'm at. I don't fucking know anymore. I live on a coast and can see a city 25 miles off thats supposed to be under the horizon by like 400 fucking feet. But I don't really see the sun and moon getting smaller or larger towards the horizon as they would if they were just traveling away from you. So I don't know whats the truth anymore. I don't know if I'll ever know the truth in this lifetime.
Right now I'm simply working on trying to be a good person.
Might be worth doing the math yourself, for that height thing? The examples I've seen talked about miles squared for some reason, didn't seem right.
But whatever, one thing that seems obvious, to me, is that you can see sunlight on the under side of the clouds, at sunset or sunrise. Happens all over the world, and the sun would have to be lower than the clouds as it's going over the horizon, for that to happen.
Also something to keep in mind, in my opinion, the flat earth "theory" showed up right when the mandela effect was getting big. Classic distraction there, I think? Lets people say, "you believe that, you probably believe the earth is flat too?" and whatever else?
Might be worth doing the math yourself, for that height thing? The examples I've seen talked about miles squared for some reason, didn't seem right.
You can look up "earth curvature calculator" and do it yourself.
But whatever, one thing that seems obvious, to me, is that you can see sunlight on the under side of the clouds, at sunset or sunrise. Happens all over the world, and the sun would have to be lower than the clouds as it's going over the horizon, for that to happen.
No idea man. I'm kind of done trying to explain and know every little detail about the universe and how it functions in the physical. Like I said I've seen things that are for flat earth it and against it with my own eyes, although I need to pay more attention to really tell if the sun / moon look like they're smaller closer to the horizon.
Why cant this just be light bounced off the ground, like how the moon supposedly reflects the suns light?
Is that a serious question? Maybe you haven't watched many sunsets? But you can literally see that the sun is right there, it's not "bouncing off the ground" or whatever,
Or, ok, given the situation and things in general right now, you're shilling for hypothetical undecided readers, probably, trying to sound reasonable and get a little doubt started? Whatever, no offense but I'm not going to keep on arguing here.
Well if people want to actually look into any flat earth stuff themselves to see their side of it theres better people than me to explain most of it, mainly Eric Dubay.
But ill just stop now lest I get called a shill again. Have a good one.
The sun is so much astronomically larger than the earth that the distance you travel as the earth rotates is totally irrelevant. It'd be like looking at the empire state building from the perspective of an ant from 10 feet away, and then 10 feet and one quarter inch. You'd never be able to see a difference in size there from the naked eye. Even the scale of the moon is large enough that you wouldn't see a difference (or rather, the distance between the earth and moon).
Also, if you trust Q, Q post 2622 clearly dictates that the earth is not flat.
I could point you to dozens if not hundreds of engineering designs that functionally rely on and compensate for the Earth's roundness.
There are also experiments you personally can do if you so desire to prove the earth round.
This one, for example, was used by the Greeks to estimate the size of the Earth remarkably accurately.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
That said what you said about focusing on being a good person is far more important than knowing the nature of the Earth unless you work in a field (like engineering) that may require appropriate design knowledge.
The sun is so much astronomically larger than the earth that the distance you travel as the earth rotates is totally irrelevant. It'd be like looking at the empire state building from the perspective of an ant from 10 feet away, and then 10 feet and one quarter inch. You'd never be able to see a difference in size there from the naked eye. Even the scale of the moon is large enough that you wouldn't see a difference (or rather, the distance between the earth and moon).
I am aware of what the heliocentric model states.
Also, if you trust Q, Q post 2622 clearly dictates that the earth is not flat.
Q is rather self aware. If Q were to say that the earth is flat, no one would believe anything else that was said.
I could point you to dozens if not hundreds of engineering designs that functionally rely on and compensate for the Earth's roundness.
Go ahead.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
Yes, I've heard about that experiment. The calculations depend on the assumption that the earth is round, and then backtrack from there that since this math works out that must mean the sun is this far away and so on and so fourth with more math. It's basically a house built on sand phenomena. It relies on a false premise and then tries to force math to work so its true.
That is not exactly correct. What is done is one is measuring the shadows of each stick and their angles. If the earth were totally flat, these should be indicative of that; either they'd be the same lengths and angles or they'd be indicative of a "point" of light at a certain distance; the shadows would match (think a dark warehouse with a single hanging bulb with two sticks, and the shadows that would cast).
Those shadows are not cast by the sticks; the ones that are are indicative of some angle between the flat surface in each area. This means that the earth has some degree of curve (or angular shape, but I've not seen anyone argue that there are seams where different flats merge). From there it's a question of "is the earth a sort of flattish bowl, or a full blown spheroid?". From there, you calculate the differences in surface angle alongside the distance. that tells you the rate of curve. That rate allows you to calculate the size of a sphere from that; whether or not the earth IS that full sphere is then the point of question. If the sphere is hugely larger than the apparent surface area of the earth, that would tell you that "saucer earth" is true. You'll find that the area of the sphere would be pretty close to matching the supposed area of the earth.
There is no house of sand here. It's just geometry.
Other engineering designs:
Long range gunnery tables account for spherical earth. What looks to be a good analysis of that here
The entirety of the GPS system relies on round earth.
Maps and coordinate systems. Most maps and their respective coordinate systems are overlaid in such a way to account for the distortion from the creation of a two dimensional projection of a three-dimensional object. If these maps were inaccurate, ships, planes, trucks, and damn near anything else traveling significant distances would be unable to reach their destinations accurately. You can read more about the details of these projections here and here
Railways are made to minimize travel distance. Their routes would be different if the earth were flat. There are documents that can be found from early to present describing this. More info can again be found here: https://flatearth.ws/c/construction
Suspension bridges: The tops of the "towers" of some of the longest suspension bridges are a tiny bit farther apart (than the bottoms) to account for the difference. If the earth were flat or anything but round there, the difference would be a construction weakness and potentially ruin the bridge. Blueprints for these bridges will show this and likely show the reasoning behind it.
I could do more but until you can explain these thoroughly it'd be a waste of my time.
"Q is rather self aware. If Q were to say that the earth is flat, no one would believe anything else that was said."
So you're suggesting Q tells people what they want to hear rather than the truth? Do you understand what kind of implications that would have on everything said by Q?
From there, you calculate the differences in surface angle alongside the distance. that tells you the rate of curve.
I've never actually heard that they calculated the rates and all of the angles for, say, an entire day at both sticks.
Long range gunnery tables
Ah, seems like theres an official military source in there, thanks.
The entirety of the GPS system relies on round earth.
I've heard that could just be high altitude balloons.
Maps and coordinate systems. Most maps and their respective coordinate systems are overlaid in such a way to account for the distortion from the creation of a two dimensional projection of a three-dimensional object. If these maps were inaccurate, ships, planes, trucks, and damn near anything else traveling significant distances would be unable to reach their destinations accurately. You can read more about the details of these projections here and here
in the first link
The so-called ‘flat-Earth map’ is claimed to be distortion-free, and some flat-Earthers take that as proof of its correctness. In reality, a map can only be distortion-free if the actual shape it represents is also flat. But this is not the case as the Earth is a sphere.
lol, flat earth map is wrong because the earth is a sphere. I love that website sometimes.
Supposedly sailors used to crash and shit all the time because their maps were off and they couldn't understand why. I'd provide a link but It'd be to a like 6 hour Eric Dubay doc because I can't remember what part of it it was in.
Railways are made to minimize travel distance. Their routes would be different if the earth were flat. There are documents that can be found from early to present describing this. More info can again be found here:
Suspension bridges: The tops of the "towers" of some of the longest suspension bridges are a tiny bit farther apart (than the bottoms) to account for the difference. If the earth were flat or anything but round there, the difference would be a construction weakness and potentially ruin the bridge. Blueprints for these bridges will show this and likely show the reasoning behind it.
I love the one bridge that had 1 5/8 inches of compensation for earths curvature in it, as if a tolerance like that can be, or would even want to be held over such a long distance. Bridges like this are supposed to move a little like steel skyscrapers are made to sway.
So you're suggesting Q tells people what they want to hear rather than the truth? Do you understand what kind of implications that would have on everything said by Q?
Optics are important, yes.
Also I don't think you ever addressed the fact that I can clearly see, in it entirety and in a clear, non distorted image, something 25 miles away. I'm not really that hardcore of a flat earther even but I know the arguments on both sides.
Can do all sorts of experiments with the sticks. Hell, if you can't find someone else that's done it, it's not too hard of an experiment if you're careful. Maybe you could be the first!
GPS and other satellite systems are far too dynamic to be balloons. Signals drop in and out, some are stationary (geostationary orbit), some are high speed movement. Many of these systems rely on triangulation; that is to say measuring distances (likely often by measuring transmission delay) and using some fairly straightforward geometry to determine position on the ground. If you were to dig around enough and find the programs or some data from one of those calculations, you could see that the distances reported are properly aligned with round earth.
And that's without considering the satellites you can observe moving at high speeds in the night sky; too high of speeds for balloons.
That part of the map you've picked out is rightfully a pretty circular sentiment, but my original point of the differences in projections and so on stands regardless of that.
I'd need more context on the sailor thing. What time in history? Any time before satellite mapping will have some pretty big inaccuracies just because ground mapping is not easy and navigation wouldn't be as high accuracy or quality either [as in, getting "coordinate" positions or the likes].
The bridge compensation is still a pretty significant amount in engineering and construction. Just because it has the capacity to flex doesn't mean that the position when it comes to "true" isn't important. Hell, if that compensation weren't needed and the earth were flat, the natural resting position should be flexed towards equal distance at top and bottom, but it isn't.
For the final point, you'll need to provide more direct context. where can an image be seen, at what distance, of what. There are a lot of factors that come into play with stuff like that, just saying an ethereal "people can see an image 25 miles away without distortion and clear" isn't exactly a scientific argument. If it were, so would "Humans can see their toe when their foot is behind their head"; it's an unapproachable statement that can't be scientifically explained when left so detail-less and nebulous.
dude... this is easy... light refraction, ever shine a light through a glass of water? light literally bends around the curvature meaning you can see distant objects farther than you would think sometimes. Telescopes literally make use of this phenomenon to function... alot of people having trouble with this literally need to go back to grade school science class not to sound harsh
And wasn't the politics of this time heavily influenced by religious dogma? They felt the discovery that we weren't the center of the universe was in conflict with their religious world-view?
Dogma??? Q says Satan worshippers rule the world; they clearly hate and feel threatened by Jesus or they would not have murdered him and smeared his name in pop culture for 2000 years.
How can you even use the word dogma after reading Q? Did you read the drops?
Then how can you even use the term dogma? Are all of these people who sell their souls to the devil just getting lucky when they make it to the highest levels of government? No relation to their worship and sacrafices? Hillary's leaked emails say moloch but Q uses the term Satan. I'm not sure of the technical difference but you seem to think there is one(?). I think Moloch was the owl/bull who requires sacrafices; I thought Satan was lucifer, the "most beautiful" fallen angel.
Dogma is simply an idea that is pushed by an authority as absolute truth (even though it may not be)... In this very case of Galileo it is the perfect term.
People willfully blow themselves up for ideas that aren't true. It doesn't stop there as they'll kill you and others for their dogma, too.
Who controls the money? Blue anon cabal. Therefore they control the media, media controls what science gets seen and what gets "deboonked" reminds me of any other time science and enlightenment was left in darkness. Always some form of control, catholic church was suppressing many ideas for example. Whats true and whats not. Usually throughout history religion had the biggest control over people burning heretics at the stake. Now with a less godly society and the technology of communication being instant, its the media and big tech controlling us. They paid enough people to agree as you said, faucis emails really show this. And thats just what wasn't redacted. Complete bastardization for control and profit. Allegory of the cave.
Made it myself after making some jokes with my dad. We started talking about how things today are like every other time the true pursuit of truth is thwarted by those wanting to protect "established truth" we started saying "Trust the science Galileo" as a joke few weeks later i thought i'd turn it into a meme. Please spread it far and wide as i think it has the potential to redpill people with the recent discovery to the normies about the wuhan lab. This fits with every other piece of evidence we give for the past year thats been censored thats why i really like it and thought i'd make a meme. Glad others are finding it amusing too!
It’s based fren. I agree with you and I think it obliterates the $cience! stance they lean on so arrogantly. And I saw that this is your first meme and first post. Ya done good, kid!
Thanks lol. Been a long time lurker. Never used reddit or any other social media thats why i didn't make my account until recently. Really wanted to join in on the discussions because its harder to find redpilled people in real life unless you redpill them yourself. I made a few memes a year ago when this started but only shared them with friends. I really do like this one though because as you said, they've bastardized science and the scientific method and appeal to authority on everything. Normies just got to get it through their heads that just because the vast majority of people believe something is true doesn't make it so. Our understanding of science changes.
Indeed fren. Glad you’re here now, better late than never. Or is it more like Gandalf? You arrived precisely when you meant to? ? either way, welcome aboard!
oh im not posting over there! just reading the comments on it i posted my reply to him at the top of this meme thread if you want to have a good laugh. the irony is priceless. they think WE are the catholic church in this scenario. Yup because we are the ones silencing opinions and banning doctors with well meaning studies instead of testing them for themselves. Just because we believe in god doesn't mean we are the catholic church. they can't argue the logic so they have to equate us to the catholic church just because we believe in god when they have more in common with the catholic church. When making this meme i predicted they would say something like this but i didn't think they'd actually be this dull.
Galileo was imprisoned by the church
For exposing that the earth was not at the center of the universe
So in 1616 they already had control
Of what they thought you and i were allowed to know
They knew the world wasnt flat
But that was knowledge we weren't supposed to have
They knew all about the new world
Way before Christopher Columbus set sail
Witness the rebirth of Atlantis
And we're all apart of it
What a beautiful fucking time to be alive, eh?
This was the argument I made at work with a coworker. He's all about science and facts. But like I told him, even Galileo was considered a kook in his day. But who's laughing now. Science can be proven wrong, even after claims to be right.
Post isn't necessarily about flat earth or heliocentrism although i don't believe in flat earth, i'll take a look at your video. The post is more about the fact that our understanding of science can and does change. For instance blood leeching used to be used in the yellow fever. That doctor kinda reminds me of fauci come to think of it haha. But the point is when you shutdown other theories and don't allow science to freely be discussed and debated only censored, only to protect the "established" science you slow down the human race. That's exactly why im going to watch your video entirely and any other evidence you pm me. The furthering of science requires open mindedness and researching other theories even if you think they are 100% whack. You're right i haven't done too much research into flat earth but i strongly doubt it holds weight, i think nasa has lied to us about a bit. But thanks for the research.
Fair enough. Can you PM here? Didn't realize that was possible.
There are thousands of other examples you could use. Considering our present dilemma, anything medical would be ideal.
And glad you have an open mind. For the record, I haven't COMPLETELY changed mine, but the real FE evidence is highly compelling. More than anything else, using your own perceived experience as a starting point. If you start there, then the onus is on the globe earth theory supporters to prove their position. In other words, don't accept either position as your starting point. Start with how things SEEM to you and then judge the evidence both sides offer.
Always. When looking into new theories its best to temporarily attempt to take all your bias out to be truly open minded. Then once you understand both theories compare and contrast and see which is more plausible. Use the scientific method and determine what you can prove and what you can disprove.
Yes i just learned it yesterday as a matter of fact. You go to notifications and there is a blue button saying create message. Feel free to pm me all that you got.
Sorry man but you have a hugely warped view of who is shutting down who in this situation. Every human alive has indoctrinated to laugh at flat earthers from a young age. Obama was the most scripted president ever, and they scripted anti flat earth propaganda into his speeches almost a dozen times?
Flat earthers are the ones being shut down by the satanic organizations that promote round earth.
Satan worshippers vow to deceive humanity and warp Christianity. Telling us we evolved from tadpoles to monkeys to humans, and we fly around on a rock in the middle of nowhere that could suddenly die someday due to heat or asteroids or alienz - all of that belittled our concept of humanity and disconnects us from our creator. So many cabal fear campaigns were spun off the round earth ttheory.
Lin wood supports and recommends Q sources that strongly say it is flat.
They have created layers upon layers of fake science to hide the truth: focusing on the "science" is not the proper way to go about it.
Look up who may have worshipped Satan; as Satan worship explicitly requires lying to humanity about everything. Every major scientist over the last 500 years who aggressively pushed flat earth has some evidence they belong to secret societies. Including every NASA astronaut ever.
Q told us the UN was supposed to rule the world after Hillary caused ww3. The UN flag is the classic flat earth map from hundreds of years ago, divided into 33 sections to represent the 33 degrees of Satanism. Why would the planned future satanic NWO have the flat earth as their flag?
I 2nd this. So many things mainstream science can't explain, but can be explained with the electric universe theory, like why the Suns corona sphere is hotter than it's surface.
Funny how he hijacked it for a while and we are finally just now unraveling the lies.
He was probably in secret societies just like all if the jpl and nasa wankers are now
Must mean you believe in geocentrism. Not going to bash you over that. But i'll tell you what i told the flat earth guy here. Memes not about that at all. It's about how when you silence other theories and research for the sake of protecting "established" science by censoring and ridiculing you do a disservice to the human race. It could be any other example of a previously inferior model or technology is outdated and how the accepted opinion now is heliocentrism is correct. Our understanding of science changes. By all means if you think i have more learning to do i like to research and keep an open mind. Pm me any research you got.
Found out about this yesterday didn't think you could either. Go to notifications, in blue there is something that says create message. Just gotta type my name and what you want to send me. I could have made another example for the meme but the point of this one is to redpill normies and pretty much 100% of them believe in heliocentrism. So i figured this would be the best ammo against them
First meme and first post i made.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GiJXALBX3KM
Kek! The laws of the universe and science never changes, but our understand of it does. Just pisses me off so many people won't even consider to challenge the current authorities and trust them blindly.
Hahahahaha! The sheep over on reddit are already triggered at the meme!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Qult_Headquarters/comments/ns5mss/these_people_are_so_dumb/ Heres the ops comment on something i said
"These guys just don't understand anything. The catholic church wanted to prosecute Galileo for his research. You're still the church in this analogy."
Hey moron, thats the point of the post! You guys are persecuting well meaning scientists and doctors who don't go along with the established theory pushed by your media and big tech. The equivalent of the catholic church in this scenario. The well meaning doctors, scientists, and whistleblowers are all being censored and persecuted! I know not all of you believe the wuhan lab leak trump said he had evidence on over a year ago. But at least some of you might be waking up. You guys have the power to cancel anyone just as the church had the power to silence galileo. All you have to do is ban them from social media, and not for racist or offensive shit but for scientific well meaning data! Thats why we're not even on reddit you'd ban us! Not even saying we're 100% right on everything we say but the bulk of you don't even give us the benefit of the doubt to research into it. So closed minded. Oh the irony! It's funny, then sad, then funny again until you realize how history is repeating itself. Just wakeup. Look into ivermectin and india if any of you over on reddit have a shred of tegridy
My reply to Illustrious-Ruin-349 because i know you are reading this over at reddit
Here's what he said:
"It's basically a mix of flatearthers and people going on about ivermectin/the supposed suppressing of fringe doctors/scientists(Cahill, Bridle stc)"
My response:
So do you not see the point of the meme? Banning these doctors from social media and suppressing them? Calling them fringe. You know who that reminds me of? Galileo... you are proving my point.
As for the flat earth debate, i personally do not believe in flat earth, however it appears some people on this board do, since i practice what i preach, i'm not going to downvote or ridicule them like you closed minded sheep at reddit. I will carefully examine any evidence they may have, weigh the probability and if they can convince me then i will stand with them though personally i severely doubt it. It's called tegridy, and open-mindedness, something you sheep do not possess. think for yourselves don't follow what the government and media tell you! that's the same as believing the catholic church in Galileo's time all you guys got is appealing to authority it's weak and a fallacy
Reply to BeeTLe_BeTHLeHeM on reddit
What he said:
"I mean, you can see a crucifix in the upper left corner of the painting... even if you don't know anything about history, you should notice those weird clothes the scientists are wearing..."
My response: This isn't about believing in Christ. You miss the point of the meme. If you didn't know at the time Religion was considered proven science by them, i know hard to look back at history you think scientists always wore lab coats. Point is they were the authority. My original argument in the meme has nothing to do with religion at all. The point is they had the authority at the time as "The trusted experts" anyone who disagreed was persecuted and silenced. Just as your media and big tech is doing to anyone who disagrees with what is "established" Can you not see my point? Or do you understand this meme's point of history repeating but don't want to admit that you're wrong on this one.
Reply to Farrell-Mars on reddit
What he said: " “Just trust the bible” was how it went; that is, if we are truthful instead of a lying POS."
My response: "Just trust Fauci and the experts" is how its going, same appeal to authority, both are wrong thats the point here. Where did I lie?
Reply to Commie_EntSniper (kek) on reddit
What he said: "Nah, it's a "critique" of "the infaliability" of science, conveniently overlooking the fact that science is a recursive examination and elimination of possibilities, not a declaration of absolutism. The fact that science changes is proof that it works."
My response: exactly right on my argument at least you got that right, the part where you are wrong is suggesting that right now the "experts" could be just as wrong as the "experts" of Galileo's years I'm not anti science I'm anti dogma and the bastardization of science, science requires an open mind
LOL I had never seen that before. Pretty sure all those actors/writers are hardcore leftists but Mac’s point is valid and actually made very well. There is a 100% chance current scientific consensus is wrong about all kinds of things. Not trusting scientific consensus is how all the big advances have been made.
Also, this reminds me I need to watch more Sunny.
V ery well done!
It's a good one.
Awesome! Galileo was the very first Q anon!
eh, he wasn't anonymous but i get your drift. I think socrates is better, he'd be the first i can think of although he wasn't anonymous either. Just liked asking questions and challenging authority and demagogues
I really liked Socrates too.
Something to consider: Everything Socrates did was through the words of Plato.
So we're not really sure how much is Socrates, or how much is Plato.
That's actually wrong. Socrates taught Plato and Plato taught Aristotle.
Good read if you're interested
https://sites.psu.edu/rclperdue/2014/09/19/the-big-three-of-greek-philosophy-socrates-plato-and-aristotle/
You have it the other way around fren
Check out the second paragraph, in that blog, concerning Socrates:
This is what I am talking about.
Gotcha I thought when you said everything that Socrates did was through Plato, you meant Plato had taught Socrates and everything Socrates did was learned through Plato. But yes since Socrates did not write himself we are not sure what is directly him and what was added by Plato.
Doctored NASA photos, fake moon landings, fake Mars rovers.....I happen to think the Earth isn’t quite what we’ve been told. Flat, hollow with holes at both poles, elliptical? Who fucking knows at this point?
Our entire history is lies stacked on lies. I just want the truth. No more lies and deception. My mind is open and I’m ready to finally get some real answers.
I'm in the camp of undecided too and until I build the foundations to be able to research it more thoroughly for myself, I'll remain open minded.
Q post 2622 - the Earth is not flat.
There are experiments you can perform yourself to verify the Earth is very much a globe.
This one, for example, was used by the Greeks to estimate the size of the Earth remarkably accurately.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5122095/The-experiment-ancient-Greeks-used-Earth-round.html
I appreciate the input.
Start by looking at how many famous round-earth astronomers through history were freemasons and therefore possibly satanic; its 100% of them
Theres no real foundations needed. Just look up Eric Dubays top videos of all time on youtube, he explains it pretty well.
Solid playlist...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUlIsT5YoQ&list=PLEzivhxtxgbtrtyKphTY5_5vifQ8-Ynes&index=8
Handshake trying to lump flat earth into a Q theory forum. Q specifically said the earth is not flat.
HMMM...
(Q post 2622)
Q said lots of things, most notably disinformation is necessary. We fucking research and verify. Everything. We don’t blindly accept bullshit as truth.
Lots of google earth fuckery around the poles. Ever hear of Admiral Byrd? Many things about our world have been kept from us for control purposes.
You can do all the fucking geometry you want, but in the end it’s just theory until we are told the truth about other anomalies.
You're probably right about the first three points but the Earth is very much round. The evidence is overwhelming.
Haven't looked into it too much yet I see. You'd be surprised, spherical earth is a bit of a paper tiger.
This statement reminds me of this video
https://files.catbox.moe/tj6wnh.mp4
Spherical earth can be repeatedly verified by independent and personal experiments. Engineering is also full of examples of designs that compensate for round earth, designs which would be inaccurate or fail if the earth weren't round.
This one, for example, was used by the Greeks to estimate the size of the Earth remarkably accurately.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5122095/The-experiment-ancient-Greeks-used-Earth-round.html
You do realize even your scientism preist NDT said that works with a flat and spherical earth right? Come back to me when you can find a single scientific experiment (that can pass through the scientific method) with defined dependent and independent variables.
I can save you the time and assure you that no scientific experiment exists that we can use to validate the claim of spherical shape, or motion.
prove it. simply have nasa take a real photograph from orbit. oh wait...
OK, I'll play along. Here's a small selection of the most obvious round earth evidence.
But hey, let's ignore all that because a neckbeard in a 360p youtube video told me we're being lied to and the field outside my house looks flat. The only thing flat earth theory can prove is that the Dunning-Kruger effect is real.
Time lapse of stars around Polaris, flat earthers are fine with that,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6UkqIwVfk
Same exact thing in the southern hemisphere, crickets,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLQSmcaWNU
Na man, it's literally the opposite for every point you made or you're just wrong.
You'll probably laugh at all this because it challenges something you've been indoctrinated about since kindergarten.
You need to have an open mind or this isn't the place for you.
Almost every single astronomer who says it is round has circumstantial evidence they belong to Satan cults.
I laugh at this because I've worked in fields and around people that worked in said fields in which round earth is an absolute and designs would fail if it were not.
I have a very open mind; I'm open to hearing arguments, and when I know they are false I'm open to refuting them when they are incorrect.
Do you know how many astronomers, astrophysicists, physicists, engineers, pilots, and more can say with absolute certitude from personal experience that the earth is indeed round? If all of them have enough circumstantial evidence to you that they belong in Satan cults, YOU have enough circumstantial evidence to belong to a Satan cult.
Even fucking Q said that "No.", the earth is not flat. Q post 2622.
Damn the awakening is going to be so hard for you. You need to be much more open minded. Anyone who has read Q should atlwast be saying "well shit I disagree but anything is possible at this point" - especially with issues that are obviously heavily propagated in satanic hollywood and indoctrinated into people by age 5. We are taught to laugh at flat earthers before we learn basic math.
Goodluck in your awakening process; the end isn't for everyone.
Have you heard of the effect where long-range shots have to be adjusted vertically, depending on whether the shot is to the east or the west? On a flat and stationary earth, what would cause this?
https://americanshootingjournal.com/precision-long-range-shooting-the-coriolis-effect/
“if you’re shooting West, your target’s gonna rotate up and towards us, which is gonna cause the bullets to hit lower.”
“if you’re facing east, the target’s going to be dropping and slightly moving away, which is gonna cause the hits to be higher.”
Jeremy points out these small errors can cause huge misses at greater distances than 1000 yards if you don’t pay attention to.
Now why this is important is, out to a thousand yards, you could have almost a full minute of correction due to Coriolis effect, depending on which direction you sighted in your zero. Now to show you guys just how much effect there’s going to be, we’re going to put on a little shooting demonstration here, I’ve got targets West and East of us, exactly 1000 yards in each direction.
Damn being so patronizing must be hard for you.
I live, breath, and work in a world that requires round earth to function. If earth were not round nothing I do would work.
I'll try one on you: the sky never actually looks blue. It always looks dark green. Oh, you don't believe me? Satanic Hollywood always portrays it as blue, and you believe that? Must be hard learning the truth.
every flat earth video I've ever watched is the same. Statements proclaiming the truth of its existence with exactly no math, scientific observations or anything of the sort to back it up. The earth is not flat. Never has been. Not everything is a lie or conspiracy. Quit embarrassing yourselves.
who said anything about flat earth? I said nasa can't provide a real photograph from space.
If you believe Q posts Q post 2622 clearly states the earth is not flat.
You can also prove it with independent experiments, such as the one used by the Greeks.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5122095/The-experiment-ancient-Greeks-used-Earth-round.html
There are countless engineering examples that compensate for and require round earth to function.
Do the experiment, and the math, and tell me still that the earth is flat. I could probably list a few dozen other things for you to check to again prove the earth is round.
who said anything about flat earth? I said nasa can't provide a real photograph from space.
OP:
...to which you responded:
ah, I see. Yeah I was really just pointing out nasa are liars.
Overwhelming evidence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUlIsT5YoQ&list=PLEzivhxtxgbtrtyKphTY5_5vifQ8-Ynes&index=8
Crappy quality youtube videos are as good as flat earth proofs will ever get.
Solid debunk sleepy! I should have realized that myself. Thanks for clearing things up for everyone.
You believe in/trust Q? Check Q post 2622.
Found and followed Q on day 3. Q was a psyop blend of truths, half-truths, lies, misdirection, misinfo/disinfo and a whole lot more.
I believe my eyes, reason and common sense. Globe earth violates all 3.
the videos debunk themselves, all these flat earth videos are the same, they simply make declarations about the truth with nothing to back it up, or present extremely flawed misunderstandings of the actual math and physical phenomena that definitely prove it is an oblate spheroid. God did not make a flying pancake. Flat earthers have had thousands of years to provide some form of actual math or observation to make there flat earth work and have produced exactly nothing, because it doesn't.
Haha, obviously you watched none. They're filled with proof after proof after proof which can't be refuted by the globe-clan. Literally hundreds. Which is why they won't engage.
Neil Degrasse Tyson initially agreed to debate Eric Dubay on the Joe Rogan podcast last year, only to back out, as we knew he would. The debate would have been over in 10 minutes if he had.
If the globe-earthers are right, Tyson should have shamed Dubay into oblivion, effectively stifling the movement. Why would he back down? It would have been a massive victory for the mainstream establishment scientism cult!!!
Things that make you go hmmmmm?
It's the same script again and again from the establishment scientism cult. "We aren't going to bow down to their level and engage with their stupidity." This is done with every rock solid "conspiracy theory" out there. The list of examples is endless.
When they know they can't win, they don't engage. Simple as that.
The globe-earth propaganda doesn't stand up to even the slightest scrutiny.
Ask any pilot some day why they don't course-correct their flight plans to account for the curvature of the earth. Easiest one in the book to prove/refute. They should be aiming their nose downwards several thousand feet per hour, otherwise they'd shoot off into "outer space".
But they don't, why is that? Perhaps these airPLANES are designed to fly over a flat PLANE? Hmmmmmm?????
It's a "big lie", which is why it seems so impossible to be true. The bigger it is, the easier it is to hide in plain sight.
I have. Like I said a familiar pattern emerges in every flat earth nonsense video. There is no actual "proof" provided. Merely statements provided by the creator that they expect you to take at face value a good example from one I saw that I remember most recently is "time and time again planar trigonometry has been proven to work better than spherical" which is absolutely made up nonsense neither of those things exist there is only "trigonometry"
"ask any pilot why they don't course correct" LOL this statement right here is everything wrong with flat earth "proofs"
this is your own hilarious and chilidish misunderstanding of the physical phenomena of our oblate spheroid earth. Airplanes do not need to "tip the nose down" constantly to fly level and horizontal. The definition of horizontal for any object on or above the earth is perpendicular to local gravity and the force of gravity always points roughly to the center of the earth. As an airplane continues its flight, it remains level there is no "tipping of the nose" it is flying at a constant altitude with respect to earths gravity and along a constant barometric pressure and air density needed for lift, it naturally follows the curve as any other object orbiting our center of gravity would.
just be honest you flat earth guys always failed math and science class didn't you? lol
NASA altering photos is because it's a military operation. They scrub classified info from everything.
I can confirm from my own math and observations that the planet is definitely round.
^ I'd back you up on that 100%
Q has also said that the earth is not flat. Post 2622.
Yeah this is where I'm at. I don't fucking know anymore. I live on a coast and can see a city 25 miles off thats supposed to be under the horizon by like 400 fucking feet. But I don't really see the sun and moon getting smaller or larger towards the horizon as they would if they were just traveling away from you. So I don't know whats the truth anymore. I don't know if I'll ever know the truth in this lifetime.
Right now I'm simply working on trying to be a good person.
Might be worth doing the math yourself, for that height thing? The examples I've seen talked about miles squared for some reason, didn't seem right.
But whatever, one thing that seems obvious, to me, is that you can see sunlight on the under side of the clouds, at sunset or sunrise. Happens all over the world, and the sun would have to be lower than the clouds as it's going over the horizon, for that to happen.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2A8E5MX/red-clouds-at-sunset-altocumulus-ondulatus-2A8E5MX.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/517/19008955290_b6604d6360_b.jpg
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e4b3d6906c5a46de15fac52cb565e245.webp
Found this in the results for those pics, lol,
https://forum.tfes.org/index.php?topic=6875.0
Also something to keep in mind, in my opinion, the flat earth "theory" showed up right when the mandela effect was getting big. Classic distraction there, I think? Lets people say, "you believe that, you probably believe the earth is flat too?" and whatever else?
You can look up "earth curvature calculator" and do it yourself.
No idea man. I'm kind of done trying to explain and know every little detail about the universe and how it functions in the physical. Like I said I've seen things that are for flat earth it and against it with my own eyes, although I need to pay more attention to really tell if the sun / moon look like they're smaller closer to the horizon.
Why cant this just be light bounced off the ground, like how the moon supposedly reflects the suns light?
Is that a serious question? Maybe you haven't watched many sunsets? But you can literally see that the sun is right there, it's not "bouncing off the ground" or whatever,
https://images.theconversation.com/files/372776/original/file-20201203-23-heriyu.jpg
https://allytravels.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/basic-sunset-800x618.jpg
Or, ok, given the situation and things in general right now, you're shilling for hypothetical undecided readers, probably, trying to sound reasonable and get a little doubt started? Whatever, no offense but I'm not going to keep on arguing here.
Well if people want to actually look into any flat earth stuff themselves to see their side of it theres better people than me to explain most of it, mainly Eric Dubay.
But ill just stop now lest I get called a shill again. Have a good one.
The sun is so much astronomically larger than the earth that the distance you travel as the earth rotates is totally irrelevant. It'd be like looking at the empire state building from the perspective of an ant from 10 feet away, and then 10 feet and one quarter inch. You'd never be able to see a difference in size there from the naked eye. Even the scale of the moon is large enough that you wouldn't see a difference (or rather, the distance between the earth and moon).
Also, if you trust Q, Q post 2622 clearly dictates that the earth is not flat.
I could point you to dozens if not hundreds of engineering designs that functionally rely on and compensate for the Earth's roundness.
There are also experiments you personally can do if you so desire to prove the earth round.
This one, for example, was used by the Greeks to estimate the size of the Earth remarkably accurately.
It does require some mathematical work (geometry) but it's all about what shadows are cast at what lengths and directions at any one given point.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5122095/The-experiment-ancient-Greeks-used-Earth-round.html
That said what you said about focusing on being a good person is far more important than knowing the nature of the Earth unless you work in a field (like engineering) that may require appropriate design knowledge.
I am aware of what the heliocentric model states.
Q is rather self aware. If Q were to say that the earth is flat, no one would believe anything else that was said.
Go ahead.
Yes, I've heard about that experiment. The calculations depend on the assumption that the earth is round, and then backtrack from there that since this math works out that must mean the sun is this far away and so on and so fourth with more math. It's basically a house built on sand phenomena. It relies on a false premise and then tries to force math to work so its true.
Last to first:
That is not exactly correct. What is done is one is measuring the shadows of each stick and their angles. If the earth were totally flat, these should be indicative of that; either they'd be the same lengths and angles or they'd be indicative of a "point" of light at a certain distance; the shadows would match (think a dark warehouse with a single hanging bulb with two sticks, and the shadows that would cast).
Those shadows are not cast by the sticks; the ones that are are indicative of some angle between the flat surface in each area. This means that the earth has some degree of curve (or angular shape, but I've not seen anyone argue that there are seams where different flats merge). From there it's a question of "is the earth a sort of flattish bowl, or a full blown spheroid?". From there, you calculate the differences in surface angle alongside the distance. that tells you the rate of curve. That rate allows you to calculate the size of a sphere from that; whether or not the earth IS that full sphere is then the point of question. If the sphere is hugely larger than the apparent surface area of the earth, that would tell you that "saucer earth" is true. You'll find that the area of the sphere would be pretty close to matching the supposed area of the earth.
There is no house of sand here. It's just geometry.
Other engineering designs:
I could do more but until you can explain these thoroughly it'd be a waste of my time.
I've never actually heard that they calculated the rates and all of the angles for, say, an entire day at both sticks.
Ah, seems like theres an official military source in there, thanks.
I've heard that could just be high altitude balloons.
in the first link
lol, flat earth map is wrong because the earth is a sphere. I love that website sometimes.
Supposedly sailors used to crash and shit all the time because their maps were off and they couldn't understand why. I'd provide a link but It'd be to a like 6 hour Eric Dubay doc because I can't remember what part of it it was in.
I love the one bridge that had 1 5/8 inches of compensation for earths curvature in it, as if a tolerance like that can be, or would even want to be held over such a long distance. Bridges like this are supposed to move a little like steel skyscrapers are made to sway.
Optics are important, yes.
Also I don't think you ever addressed the fact that I can clearly see, in it entirety and in a clear, non distorted image, something 25 miles away. I'm not really that hardcore of a flat earther even but I know the arguments on both sides.
Can do all sorts of experiments with the sticks. Hell, if you can't find someone else that's done it, it's not too hard of an experiment if you're careful. Maybe you could be the first!
Source wise it traces back to this document: https://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USN-GUNS-AND-RANGE-TABLES/OP-770-1.html which admittedly could be faked, but I don't know if you could really get that much in a way of a direct military source for range tables for antique weapons systems.
GPS and other satellite systems are far too dynamic to be balloons. Signals drop in and out, some are stationary (geostationary orbit), some are high speed movement. Many of these systems rely on triangulation; that is to say measuring distances (likely often by measuring transmission delay) and using some fairly straightforward geometry to determine position on the ground. If you were to dig around enough and find the programs or some data from one of those calculations, you could see that the distances reported are properly aligned with round earth.
And that's without considering the satellites you can observe moving at high speeds in the night sky; too high of speeds for balloons.
That part of the map you've picked out is rightfully a pretty circular sentiment, but my original point of the differences in projections and so on stands regardless of that.
I'd need more context on the sailor thing. What time in history? Any time before satellite mapping will have some pretty big inaccuracies just because ground mapping is not easy and navigation wouldn't be as high accuracy or quality either [as in, getting "coordinate" positions or the likes].
The bridge compensation is still a pretty significant amount in engineering and construction. Just because it has the capacity to flex doesn't mean that the position when it comes to "true" isn't important. Hell, if that compensation weren't needed and the earth were flat, the natural resting position should be flexed towards equal distance at top and bottom, but it isn't.
For the final point, you'll need to provide more direct context. where can an image be seen, at what distance, of what. There are a lot of factors that come into play with stuff like that, just saying an ethereal "people can see an image 25 miles away without distortion and clear" isn't exactly a scientific argument. If it were, so would "Humans can see their toe when their foot is behind their head"; it's an unapproachable statement that can't be scientifically explained when left so detail-less and nebulous.
dude... this is easy... light refraction, ever shine a light through a glass of water? light literally bends around the curvature meaning you can see distant objects farther than you would think sometimes. Telescopes literally make use of this phenomenon to function... alot of people having trouble with this literally need to go back to grade school science class not to sound harsh
Was Galileo a Jesuit?
Possibly. It may have been a front though, I believe he was a Master Mason. Which may or may not mean he's telling us porky pies.
And wasn't the politics of this time heavily influenced by religious dogma? They felt the discovery that we weren't the center of the universe was in conflict with their religious world-view?
Dogma??? Q says Satan worshippers rule the world; they clearly hate and feel threatened by Jesus or they would not have murdered him and smeared his name in pop culture for 2000 years.
How can you even use the word dogma after reading Q? Did you read the drops?
Molech worshippers, yes.
Of course I read them.
Then how can you even use the term dogma? Are all of these people who sell their souls to the devil just getting lucky when they make it to the highest levels of government? No relation to their worship and sacrafices? Hillary's leaked emails say moloch but Q uses the term Satan. I'm not sure of the technical difference but you seem to think there is one(?). I think Moloch was the owl/bull who requires sacrafices; I thought Satan was lucifer, the "most beautiful" fallen angel.
Dogma is simply an idea that is pushed by an authority as absolute truth (even though it may not be)... In this very case of Galileo it is the perfect term.
People willfully blow themselves up for ideas that aren't true. It doesn't stop there as they'll kill you and others for their dogma, too.
You have a shockingly atheistic view on all of this when 99% of anons generally become more religious after realizing the full extent of Q's info.
I think you are very early in the wake up process, Goodluck with your studies going forward. The earth is flat lol.
Who controls the money? Blue anon cabal. Therefore they control the media, media controls what science gets seen and what gets "deboonked" reminds me of any other time science and enlightenment was left in darkness. Always some form of control, catholic church was suppressing many ideas for example. Whats true and whats not. Usually throughout history religion had the biggest control over people burning heretics at the stake. Now with a less godly society and the technology of communication being instant, its the media and big tech controlling us. They paid enough people to agree as you said, faucis emails really show this. And thats just what wasn't redacted. Complete bastardization for control and profit. Allegory of the cave.
Fren, this is a ☢️ mic drop! Take my updoot as payment for grabbing this meme.
Made it myself after making some jokes with my dad. We started talking about how things today are like every other time the true pursuit of truth is thwarted by those wanting to protect "established truth" we started saying "Trust the science Galileo" as a joke few weeks later i thought i'd turn it into a meme. Please spread it far and wide as i think it has the potential to redpill people with the recent discovery to the normies about the wuhan lab. This fits with every other piece of evidence we give for the past year thats been censored thats why i really like it and thought i'd make a meme. Glad others are finding it amusing too!
It’s based fren. I agree with you and I think it obliterates the $cience! stance they lean on so arrogantly. And I saw that this is your first meme and first post. Ya done good, kid!
Thanks lol. Been a long time lurker. Never used reddit or any other social media thats why i didn't make my account until recently. Really wanted to join in on the discussions because its harder to find redpilled people in real life unless you redpill them yourself. I made a few memes a year ago when this started but only shared them with friends. I really do like this one though because as you said, they've bastardized science and the scientific method and appeal to authority on everything. Normies just got to get it through their heads that just because the vast majority of people believe something is true doesn't make it so. Our understanding of science changes.
Indeed fren. Glad you’re here now, better late than never. Or is it more like Gandalf? You arrived precisely when you meant to? ? either way, welcome aboard!
could be! haha im already triggering the folks on reddit with my FIRST ever post! i call that a win
? I would too fren. You’ll be banned by the end of the day or sooner if you keep it up. Keep it up!
oh im not posting over there! just reading the comments on it i posted my reply to him at the top of this meme thread if you want to have a good laugh. the irony is priceless. they think WE are the catholic church in this scenario. Yup because we are the ones silencing opinions and banning doctors with well meaning studies instead of testing them for themselves. Just because we believe in god doesn't mean we are the catholic church. they can't argue the logic so they have to equate us to the catholic church just because we believe in god when they have more in common with the catholic church. When making this meme i predicted they would say something like this but i didn't think they'd actually be this dull.
Galileo was imprisoned by the church For exposing that the earth was not at the center of the universe So in 1616 they already had control Of what they thought you and i were allowed to know They knew the world wasnt flat But that was knowledge we weren't supposed to have They knew all about the new world Way before Christopher Columbus set sail Witness the rebirth of Atlantis And we're all apart of it What a beautiful fucking time to be alive, eh?
-Hed Pe "Atlantis AD"
This was the argument I made at work with a coworker. He's all about science and facts. But like I told him, even Galileo was considered a kook in his day. But who's laughing now. Science can be proven wrong, even after claims to be right.
Nicely done... double up doors for you good pede...
OP, you clearly haven't educated yourself on REAL FE support.
Have fun! -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiUlIsT5YoQ&list=PLEzivhxtxgbtrtyKphTY5_5vifQ8-Ynes&index=8
Post isn't necessarily about flat earth or heliocentrism although i don't believe in flat earth, i'll take a look at your video. The post is more about the fact that our understanding of science can and does change. For instance blood leeching used to be used in the yellow fever. That doctor kinda reminds me of fauci come to think of it haha. But the point is when you shutdown other theories and don't allow science to freely be discussed and debated only censored, only to protect the "established" science you slow down the human race. That's exactly why im going to watch your video entirely and any other evidence you pm me. The furthering of science requires open mindedness and researching other theories even if you think they are 100% whack. You're right i haven't done too much research into flat earth but i strongly doubt it holds weight, i think nasa has lied to us about a bit. But thanks for the research.
Fair enough. Can you PM here? Didn't realize that was possible.
There are thousands of other examples you could use. Considering our present dilemma, anything medical would be ideal.
And glad you have an open mind. For the record, I haven't COMPLETELY changed mine, but the real FE evidence is highly compelling. More than anything else, using your own perceived experience as a starting point. If you start there, then the onus is on the globe earth theory supporters to prove their position. In other words, don't accept either position as your starting point. Start with how things SEEM to you and then judge the evidence both sides offer.
Always. When looking into new theories its best to temporarily attempt to take all your bias out to be truly open minded. Then once you understand both theories compare and contrast and see which is more plausible. Use the scientific method and determine what you can prove and what you can disprove.
Yes i just learned it yesterday as a matter of fact. You go to notifications and there is a blue button saying create message. Feel free to pm me all that you got.
Sorry man but you have a hugely warped view of who is shutting down who in this situation. Every human alive has indoctrinated to laugh at flat earthers from a young age. Obama was the most scripted president ever, and they scripted anti flat earth propaganda into his speeches almost a dozen times?
Flat earthers are the ones being shut down by the satanic organizations that promote round earth.
Satan worshippers vow to deceive humanity and warp Christianity. Telling us we evolved from tadpoles to monkeys to humans, and we fly around on a rock in the middle of nowhere that could suddenly die someday due to heat or asteroids or alienz - all of that belittled our concept of humanity and disconnects us from our creator. So many cabal fear campaigns were spun off the round earth ttheory.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12ih9o8hjZ/x/c/4J9McFpDSDu permalink to my reply to another flat earther. I don't believe in it but im not going to supress you and if you want to send me your evidence feel free to pm me
Lin wood supports and recommends Q sources that strongly say it is flat.
They have created layers upon layers of fake science to hide the truth: focusing on the "science" is not the proper way to go about it.
Look up who may have worshipped Satan; as Satan worship explicitly requires lying to humanity about everything. Every major scientist over the last 500 years who aggressively pushed flat earth has some evidence they belong to secret societies. Including every NASA astronaut ever.
Q told us the UN was supposed to rule the world after Hillary caused ww3. The UN flag is the classic flat earth map from hundreds of years ago, divided into 33 sections to represent the 33 degrees of Satanism. Why would the planned future satanic NWO have the flat earth as their flag?
reddit sheep are funny take a look over at Qultheadquarters they are already triggered
Awesome ?
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this is applicable to many things "established" today.
In the age of atheism, scienceism is rampant in society.
For instance, look at the electric universe theory. It explains many things "traditional" science is unable to do.
I 2nd this. So many things mainstream science can't explain, but can be explained with the electric universe theory, like why the Suns corona sphere is hotter than it's surface.
Thanks for the recommendation, I saved for later although I feel like I have heard it mentioned somewhere previously.
Check out suspicious0bservers on youtube as one source for electric universe.
Eh, im confused. Galileo was a lying freemason.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12ih9o8hjZ/x/c/4J9McFpDSDu heres a link to what i have to say about anyone who disagrees with galileo as a person. its not about him its about censoring the pursuit of truth
His kind are the ones who censor the pursuit of truth....
Funny how he hijacked it for a while and we are finally just now unraveling the lies. He was probably in secret societies just like all if the jpl and nasa wankers are now
Jesuit
Must mean you believe in geocentrism. Not going to bash you over that. But i'll tell you what i told the flat earth guy here. Memes not about that at all. It's about how when you silence other theories and research for the sake of protecting "established" science by censoring and ridiculing you do a disservice to the human race. It could be any other example of a previously inferior model or technology is outdated and how the accepted opinion now is heliocentrism is correct. Our understanding of science changes. By all means if you think i have more learning to do i like to research and keep an open mind. Pm me any research you got.
Found out about this yesterday didn't think you could either. Go to notifications, in blue there is something that says create message. Just gotta type my name and what you want to send me. I could have made another example for the meme but the point of this one is to redpill normies and pretty much 100% of them believe in heliocentrism. So i figured this would be the best ammo against them