Many think there should be a second election once the fraud is revealed. I disagree on the 2nd election. Trump won, US Space Force, the Military and DNI report has the fraud/steal data-metadata and NSA has all the cell phone data of these that were involved. (I'm certain Rudy Guilliani is working 24/7 on the HUGE and massive RICO case!) They know TRUMP won, We, The People know he won and with the audit(s) will prove he won and that Joe Biden cheated.
Biden forfeits his win and the presidency with fraud in just one state. His presidency and all, ALL those electoral votes he received is all null and void. Not just swing state votes, but all the states he supposedly won, he forfeits. 'FRAUD VITIATES EVERYTHING' as written in the Constitution. That's why he hot-tailed it to PA yesterday in panic-mode! Will he go to GA, MI, WI, NV and NH as well to make similar speeches? I wouldn't doubt it! Watch what happens next with GA & PA running a race to be 2nd to audit!
The Audits (just one states' audit) will prove US Space Force, Military investigation and DNI report to be accurate regarding the fraud.
Remember this; a lawyer does not ask a question he does not already know the answer to. Same scenario here, Trump already knows the answer to the election fraud/steal. He's just waiting on the audit results so that he is distanced himself from the process. A process that allows The People to actually put into motion these audits and hence reveal the true results of the audits, of which, Trump already knows the answer to. He had to step down from the presidency so that he would not look like a tyrannical political figure.
TRUMP IS IN THE PROCESS OF PLAYING HIS CARD(S). He has steered We, The People in this very direction...
On a second election? Why would we ever give a cheater a 2nd chance? Election fraud is a treasonous felony offense, punishable by DEATH! There are no 'do-overs', here!!! Fool me once, fool me twice? A criminal, is a criminal, is a criminal, PERIOD!!
Spot on. Second election is a joke, especially using the same fraud machines. Fraud vitiates everything!
I've never seen even one person suggest having a second election using the same machines.
Who would Trump run against? The opposition should be in cuffs somewhere waiting for a military tribunal do decide their fate.
Right, my point being the second election idea falls flat. Every state uses electronic voting machines and/or tabulators. So to think the country is going to have a re-do, and every state switch to paper ballots and hand count, seems like a stretch.
How short sighted.
First off. The fraud machines were used in 2016. President Trump won because the cheating was stopped. The idea that he somehow became president because of anything other than a well executed plan is ridiculous.
Secondly, This whole "show" has been to change public opinion. If this was about simply removing bad actors that would have been done by now.
The easiest way to control people is to make them think they're doing what THEY want, when in actuality they're doing what YOU want.
That being said, proving fraud means SOMEONE cheated. The DEMOCRATS being the ones who cheated is a hard sell. I can't believe that's where they stopped the plan.
But Biden has been an ice cream cone eating dementia patient on live TV for 8+ months now. Convincing people there was a redo of the presidential election and Biden LOST? Much easier sell.
There are certainly republicans who are in office due to fraud, otherwise they would be yelling it from the rooftops. It's not just democrats, it's the deep state uniparty that has to be dismantled.
Yep, I suspect there are many RINO's in office that cheated their way in or sold their soul for the win.
I understand where you're coming from, but how does the narrative that the majority of fraud was due to hacking of the machines change with a second election using the same machines?
Good point! But who says they are going to use hacking as the method of fraud in the public narrative?
That's too complicated. Plus Hillary already poisoned that well, and facts don't matter.
The fraud is going to be proven physically. In a way it will be near impossible to argue against without looking like a "conspiracy theorist"
I'm thinking they will focus on the ballots received vs votes tallied. It seems like it's the hardest to argue.
If 2 million people voted and we have 3 million ballots we need to redo. Not complicated.
"2.1 million voted" and we have ( guessing) 1.5 million ballots, you mean.
I thought it was the other way? More ballots than registered voters.
Either way they lose. If less ballots, they made up a machine total and certified it, thinking no one would ever count 2 million ballots. If more ballots, it will be shown that there are invalid ones, because we already know about some. I'm going with less because of a remark weeks ago that "we have counted x many ballots and at our rate of 100,000/day, we will be done by June 24." Some here calculated that rate on top of known total would come far short of 2.1 million. So did the audit spokesman misspeak? We will soon know.
The cheating wasn't stopped in 2016. They had not anticipated Trump's win in those swing states and they grossly underestimated his numbers, by far. They just didn't have their numbers bumping and fractional voting ratios aligned to push Clinton over Trump's win in those states. Hillary did not campaign and hold rallies in those states that Trump won. And that was because she was confident of the numbers rigging would win her those states. Recall after the 2016 election, Kristen Gillebrand raced to MI and WI to vindicate Clinton's win? They failed, as I believe they uncovered actual Hillary Clinton pumped-up numbers and fraud, then they shut the probe down. Or they had state officials deny Gillebrand not to do an audit, as it would most definitely uncover Clinton fraud.
This is being done so that there is the least risk to US Citizens. You don't for a moment, think that 'they' have and will deploy WMDs and initiate false flags to maintain power and control? They unleashed WMD; COVID for Chr*st's sake that morphed into election fraud with changing laws, etc. in these swing states! How about the Christmas Day bombing in Nashville? A building that held the servers in some swing states. They had to destroy evidence. It was part of their plan!
Dumbest fucking idea ever.
The NSA knows what color your shit was yesterday.
You think they didn't have accurate internals?
You think you need to honestly tell them who you're voting for or you'll trick them?
Dumb. As. Fuck.
Military intervened on the algorithms in 2016 along with the DS thinking they had enough cheating and didn't need to campaign and overlooked the throng of 1st time voters. But Gen McInerney has stated several times that something was done the night of the election to allow Trump his full measure of votes and the cheating was prevented.
Yes back in 2016 but in 2020 they had a lot in place to catch the cheating in real time and they let Biden win by fraud because « it had to be this way. »
Thank you.
I remember the night of the election following a Twitter account talking about it but haven't found anything else since.
Potaus inaugurated 12 mins early tells you it's not real
So many anomalies and oddities on Inauguration Day. Off the top of my head, these facts.
I may have missed a few, but we all get the point! It's quite clear our military does not recognize Biden as a legitimate president.
Real presidential battery is four rifles, not just three as Biden got. And short pauses after each shot, not the long ones biden got. Fuckwit did NOT get the military respect traditionally shown an actual, legal president.
https://write-aholic.com/why-didnt-biden-get-a-presidential-battery-salute/
Also arriving on a private chartered flight, not AF1.
Trump left DC on the 747 normally used as AF1 (with the football, which he brushed off as saying "we'll figure out a way to get it back"). Biden and Harris were both made to fly private to DC. Normal protocol is for the military to send planes to pick up the Pres and VP elect.
Since you mention Guilliani, do not forget his bar license was removed for supposedly claiming falsehoods regarding election fraud.
The court is going to have a hard time keeping this standing once the fraud is revealed.
Yes, I agree. This does not mean he can't work a case administratively. He just can't present in court or hold depositions, file briefs, etc. I'm certain Rudy is just the Maestro orchestrating his massive team of attorneys on his caseload. As he is getting up there in age, perhaps it's a blessing in disguise! Let's hope, until his license is restored.
All of those judges will probably get special Cuba flights too.
Well stated Fren
Love your enthusiasm but small correction: "Fraud vitiates everything" is not in the Constitution. It's a statement by the Supreme Court as part of their interpretation of the Constitution in "United States vs. Throckmorton" in 1878. Other than that, carry on.
Still applies, and gravy will be once the foreign interference/infiltration is shown. There is so much cheating, payoffs, murder, blackmail and general illegal activity it’s impossible to even comprehend. It will make taking down the mafia seem like nursery school.
Totally applies, yes. Just technically not in the Constitution. It's implied from earlier case law (our whole legal system was a carry-over from England).
I have read about that and tried to get all the details but I’d have to quit my day job. 🥴 It was fascinating and surprising to me especially the nuances of grammar relative to legal interpretation.
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Biden disqualified. Trump runs without competition.
I agree. I never understood the illogic behind a 'second election.' When proven he won, then he won. Done. Back to the WH with him.
Another election = second bite at the apple for the traitors
= second chance for another round of cheating, lawsuits, all kinds of democrat socialist fuckery
The people have spoken. We wanted Trump. He already won. Period.
I don't think TRUMP will need to be elected a third time. BUT there will have to be a second election. Case in point, California. When 90% of their state government is shown to be illegitimate, treasonous traitors, they'll HAVE to have another election to replace them.
Actually, the same applies for the federal election. Take turtle man for example. He legitimately won his election (because he ran against a literal communist so there really wasn't a choice), but he's guilty of high treason. So there will have to be countless special elections in order to replace all of these people across the country.
What line exactly?
This came about through a Supreme Court Case. United States vs Throckmorton. 98 US 61 - Supreme Court 1878
Just wanted to add to the list of things OP is mistaken about.
It's from a supreme court case, not the Constitution.
I know. Just adding to the list of things OP is wrong about.
What list
True, but we will be seeing a whole bunch of special elections, and midterms will be shocking.
Its beyond doubt that Trump won, but there are soooo many elections in need of review. I don't believe for a minute they didn't use this fraud right on down to the local level.
Sure I get that but it’s not necessary. All they have to do is show the world the data. Remember, « they have everything! »
Oh absolutely and I’d love to see it. I just wish there would be a big announcement about the results so everyone knows! NCSWIC
I kinda want a second election to get rid of Pence. Or does anyone know if Trump can fire his VP?
I don't think he can fire him, because he didn't hire him. He was, unfortunately, elected along with Trump. So a 2nd election would enable him to choose a different VP candidate.
It used to be that the vice president was also elected, not run on the same ticket as the president. Maybe there will be a return to that?
I'm pretty sure if reinstated, Trump could have Congress bring articles of impeachment against Pence. Articles voted on by the House to the Senate, but still would need 2/3rds to impeach. And what's so ironic is that Chief Justice Roberts (also pedo allegations, like Pence) would preside over Pence's impeachment hearing.
SC places trump back in his rightful position and, as punishment to the cheaters, rule that he be allowed to stay & serve out the next term as well.
Trump could become the only two-plus term president ever. All all of joe's decisions and everything he signed is wiped out. Made to have never existed.
Return to right where President Trump left off.
According to 107, it would be unconstitutional to do so.
I agree but who will be in the vice presidency?
Also, what about the local state races, plus house and senate? We know those were fraudulent as well.
No need for those 2nd elections either! Those who were sworn into US Congress or their own states' governmental elected positions will have their positions literally yanked from them!
The new speaker of the house? Assuming Pelosi goes down as well.
PSA: Pelosi and “going down” should be uttered in the same sentence.😬
Yes I thought of that but who do we think will be in those positions. Shouldn’t they be elected rather than appointed?
If they can prove fraud in the presidential vote, they hopefully would look at the house and senate races as well. After the house cleaning, they would need to vote on the new speaker. I don't think Pence would last very long in the VP position if they put him back. A resignation would likely be requested very quickly. History tells us that the DS likes to keep one of their own in at least one of the top two spots and it seems that Pence is that guy. I guess we'll just have to make another trip to the snack bar and perhaps a visit to the restroom and then sit back and watch the end of the movie.
Off the top of my head, Speaker pro tempore (2nd in line for speaker after Pelosi); This would be Patrick Leahy (D-VT). Or the House votes on a 'non-elected' official. They could actually vote for an average 'Joe' citizen and not an elected official! Trump could actually be voted in as Speaker of the House.
Then as Speaker Trump could bring articles of impeachment on Biden, Harris! That's assuming they are still fraudulently in office. What the heck, why stop at just those two criminals! Trump as speaker could bring articles of impeachment of so many House and Senate members who are and have been corrupt for years. That and the 3 letter agencies; CIA, DOJ, FBI, State Dept and so on. Talk about draining the swamp! Wow! This is fact, not speculation!
Imagining President Trump would ever stoop to accept such a lowly job as being one of 435 Representatives in Congress when he's literally the president of the United States takes a special kind of vivid imagination. Maybe enhanced by psychotropic chemistry? :)
This is a very interesting question. Here's what we know. Trump is dividing the Republican party as we speak. The RNC RINOs vs. MAGA-Save America. Pence is definitely a RINO and has made statements about a 2024 presidential run. This would be under the RNC RINO Republican ticket.
I believe Pence made a deal on Jan 6th that the RNC would endorse him if he made a swayed 'certain' electoral vote certification decision as Pres of Senate. To date RNC has raised $90.5 million. Trump's Save America has raised $85 million. If Trump runs, he will expect RNC money plus his own PAC money he has raised.
IMO; Pence would remain as the winning VP if they are to be reinstated. Trump, if reinstated knows Pence's 'MO' and may just put him in the basement of the White House for the remainder of their 2nd term. Sweeping floors, cleaning toilets, emptying office trash cans, that sort of thing. If I were Trump, I wouldn't allow Pence any Executive Office-like duties or appoint him to any policy making decisions. Trump knows Pence betrayed him and would most likely treat him as such for his betrayal. (Remember, there is dirt on Pence, so what option would he have? Trump has 'leverage' over Pence.)
If Trump does not run in 2024 we will see a Mike Pompeo, Ron DeSantis ticket. Then 2028 it will be a second term for those two and then 2032 we'll see Ron DeSantis, Matt Gaetz Ticket. It seems Trump is 'grooming' these guys. And as Trump, the Maestro orchestrating these political patriots, he's also grooming Don, Jr. to be Maestro, too.
Im a criminal, byt have turned from my wicked ways.
Trump should get the rest of this term, and a full term he was elected to fill in a landslide if he is healthy enough that he wants another term.
I believe if is reinstated at the end of january it will no longer count as a full term. So he'll have 2 years to clean up the Biden mess and then he is free to run again in 2024 and win by historic numbers.
If he's inaugurated 1/20/23, not 2022, he'll have 2 years plus another 8.
Ahh got it! Thanks
Ha ha I said it wrong but anyway...he gets 10 if he serves a term, then takes over for a [p]resident who is unable to function (as Biden is) after two years, then wins another term.
I hope it's moot because he's coming back before Christmas to save us from China. Not to holidayfag!
Here is what the 22nd Amendment says about presidential terms. I interpret it like this; Even if Trump is reinstated, as he WAS elected for a second term, he cannot be elected for a 3rd term in 2024. He would serve out the remainder of the 1/20/2021-1/20/2025 term. Of course we can also apply the original Constitution prior to the 1871 law; United States as a 'Corporation' .
Prior to the '2 term limits' the original Constitution does not give any term limits. 'Although nothing in the original Constitution limited presidential terms, the nation's first president, George Washington, declined to run for a third term, suggesting that two terms of four years were enough for any president.'
Washington set a precedence of 2 terms, but it was not written into law.
So, if the 'US Corporation' law of 1871 is now obsolete (as the United States is now a defunct bankrupt corporation) as we revert back to the original Constitution, Trump could actually run for a 3rd, 4th, 5th+++ term for the presidency.
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-22/
When Trump gets in office does his term run through 2025? Hence why he hasn't given his answer on if he's running in 2024 because there will be no 2024 election.
But....even if/when the fraud is exposed, I don't expect the die hard Biden/Dems to accept that. If Trump is "declared" the winner, I expect there will be organized riots. Because of this possible upheaval I think a new election should be done.
If it were that easy, Dems will just cheat for Rs and win that way.
Absolutely right! If an athlete wins but is caught taking steroids, they do not get to keep the medal nor do the other athletes have to repeat.