This is a reply in another thread by another anon and my reply to it.
the original comment:
EmotionallyDrained 1 point 1 hour ago +1 / -0 If your country is at war, and there is no way you can stop all suffering and death but you can save most by sacrificing a "few," would you do it? Could you make that hard choice? Pray for him and all of us.
my reply:
NewbieQbie 1 point moments ago +1 / -0 he basically said as much. He was talking about which state to allow to house the Space Force headquarters and said it was tough choosing, but it had to be done. Then told the crowd something along the lines of "Do you think you could make the decision if you had to? Do you know how tough these things are?" If choosing where to put a military headquarters is tough, IMAGINE choosing to endorse or not endorse a vaccine you needed to facilitate to prevent permanent lockdown of society???
The Q phrase comes to mind in this situation: Those who know the truth, cannot sleep. Imagine having to live with this decision. And hoping so hard that your base finds the truth before they get vaxxed.
Hmmm.... all of your comments are about this one subject.
just realized I forgot to include my conclusion: If the theory is correct that he HAD to release an experimental vax to prevent permanent lockdown, then endorsing or not endorsing it now are both extremely risky. If he doesn't endorse it, he turns all the focus of MSM on his admonition of the vax, and allowing for further mandates and lockdowns, and he makes his self look like a fool for allowing Operation Warp Speed continue in the first place. Look at what they did to him for HCQ. And if he endorses it, he could potentially be harming members of society, who are being harmed by the COVID situation in the first place. Every time he mentioned his good relations with China and how he put tariffs on them he always added in "...but then pandemic happened" almost to tell us that it was indeed a bioweapon.
You don't address the important issue. There is a tremendous difference between not discouraging people taking the jab, and actively ENCOURAGING people to do it.
Trump is a master of words. He could have taken the former path by cleverly choosing his statements, appeared to be endorsing it to those who chose to see his words that way, and still accomplished everything you said. He didn't. He is actively pushing people to harm themselves in no uncertain terms. He is leaving no room for doubt of what he recommends you do. Those of us who wanted to save our parents and family, all of whom are Trump supporters, didn't even have a crack in his statement to try and work with.
Nobody ever wants to address this issue, and it is the only one that matters. Just watch how he answers media questions about running in 2024 and tell me he was too ignorant to apply those same oratory skills to questions about the jab.
This is the only thing that I've still yet to figure out. All this time he has been playing with words regarding the vax, and now seems to be coming straight out and saying it. I'm not really sure why, but if I had to take a crack at it, it would be there is no right answer so he has to appear to approve of it because the alternative is worse. There's no way possible he isn't aware of the videos of people suffering from them.
He has always emphasized it is and should be your choice. How many times did he say about the wall, "I should have said don't build the wall and they'd have that succer up in weeks." His endorsement is about as enthusiastic as mine would be for a liver only restaurant.
Mirror. Think mirror AND didn't Flynn's brother fo a tweet asking him to oppose vaccine? With all that's going on right now, that seems off. And he has said don't give it to kids or young people.
I am assuredly not an autist, but I think there's a lot for the geniuses to unpack here.
One of the few restaurants that could thrive in a Vax passport world. The all soy one would do well too.
And thats exactly what he did by emphasizing freedom of choice to take it or not.
No. That is different. If you are the kind of person that follows others, telling someone it is their choice is meaningless. They will follow whatever you tell them. The problem is that many of those noncritical thinkers are actually very good people. So Trump effectively pushed a lot of good, moral people to their death simply because they were not awake. You can claim (callously in my opinion) that these people deserve to die, but you can't make the argument that Trump bears no responsibility for it when everyone under the sun, including Trump, knew that this is exactly what would happen.
Perhaps I didn't word my post correctly. It isn't about people making fun of him. He mentioned HCQ as a possible treatment for covid and they went wild banning any mention of it anywhere. He has even said "if I said the opposite, they wouldn't have banned it"
Now with the vax things seem to be working in reverse, at the beginning, everyone on the left was saying how they would never get it if Trump endorsed it. Now they are literally trying to mandate it. He literally can't win either way. But if he comes against it, every news segment/article will be about how Trump disapproves of his own vaccine. Imagine that headline everywhere. That takes the focus off of fighting for freedom of choice, and puts it directly on how stupid Trump is while also allowing them to force mandates even more. Sorry if I'm not wording my sentences properly, I'm running on 3 hours of sleep.
Stop arguing with obvious shills. Your analysis is very close to spot on.
Thanks for the encouragement.
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Is there a link to the video where he spoke about the vaccine (and got booed)? Is it the same video where he spoke about the space force? If you have those videos, is there an approximate time stamp for these statements?
Thanks in advance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxpzV1pohYI
talking about the vax at 1:22:00
talking about Space Force at 2:01:39
sorry it took me a while to find the time stamps.
Very much appreciated. Thank you!
All this back and forth with Trump good and Trump bad is further dividing the people which might be what the Cabal is hoping. We are in a no win situation jus like Trump in in a no win situation on the vaccine. EVERYTHING depends on the Arizona audit and that is where the focus should be. We either lose our country or we retake the nation so many have died for. THAT is the only thing that matters in the next weeks!
YES!!!
Trump endorsed thinking deaths would ultimately be minimal, there must be a cure.
Think for yourself. The vax is a bioweapon. DO NOT take the vax no matter who says to take it. I too do not understand why Trump promotes taking the vax but we need to continue to resist vax mandates, take off your mask and fight to keep our freedoms.
Let's assume Trump has something super advanced like Looking Glass, or at the very least a talented think tank to help him predict the future.
This might have told him that to push the vaccines and then flip flop against them would make him look worse than Fauci. That's probably true, and the media would make sure we never hear the end of it.
There is also the factor that more Democrats are taking the clot shot.
Also, most of the people that survive the depopulation program will be the independent thinkers.
It would bring Trump no advantage to be the first high-profile leader to admit the dangers of the vaccines before "science" does. It could have been his best play to feign ignorance.
He does make it a point to emphasize your freedom of choice. He never fails to include that. It gives the corrupt media nothing to work with.
I don’t know how many time I’ve asked this question to get no replies.
If the Plan is to have Trump return to power before 2024, then there was never a risk of a forever lockdown.
If the Deep State is going to be in Gitmo soon, there is no reason to release a poison vaccine to stop them, since Trump can do it himself in a few months anyway.
If NCSWIC, there is no reason for tens of millions of innocent people to be tricked into killing themselves with poison, because the Deep State’s plan to lock everyone down forever was never going to succeed anyway.
So if Trump’s return is inevitable, and the success of Q cannot be stopped, then why would a poison vaccine be needed to prevent a years-long lockdown when the Deep State is not destined by Q to last that long anyway?
Because we do not know what's going on that we can't see. We have been given crumbs. This is more than getting Trump back in. It's about dismantling the system with truth so when we and Trump are gone our grandchildren aren't fighting the same soulless snake.
I suspect you have had this same answer several times but just keep asking the same question. So why are you hanging out with non fatalists?
Understand that from my perspective, it's not just you assuming there's stuff going on that you can't see. It's also ignoring stuff that you CAN see, but you choose to dismiss as optics or outright falsehoods.
So when I dissect the theories here, it's not just because I'm trying to "see" the stuff you claim I can't see. It's because I'm also trying to reconcile how these theories would work versus what we actually see happening.
Science and logic is about being able to accurately predict the future. I so far have been able to do so much more accurately by using what I can see than what I can't and have to have faith in.
I also find Q people calling themselves non-fatalists to be kind of interesting. You don't believe that "NCSWIC" is fatalistic? That "the storm is coming" is fatalistic? "We have it all." That sort of thing? Much of the frustration around here doesn't seem to be in response to the belief that the Plan has failed, but that it is incapable of failing and that everyone just wants it to become obvious to everyone outside of Q world by now.
The need is not for the contents of the vaccine, but rather the existence of a symbol to end the pandemic. The cabal's primary weapon is manipulation of the people through mass media. It is true that if the end is a totally foregone conclusion, neutralizing their weapon wouldn't have to be done. But it is also true that to achieve the conclusion you want, certain actions must be taken. The action of breaking the covid narrative with a vaccine ahead of time was simply a necessary part of the plan to weaken the cabal's weaponized covid narrative. What's in the vaccine is incidental, whether good or bad. Don't conflate NCSWIC with "we'll win without suffering any losses."
Yeah, but weakening that narrative is apparently resulting in tens of millions of deaths.
Which, honestly, is not cutting it as a White Hat plan. At all. We're talking about surpassing Hitler in the number of innocent deaths, and doing so with deception, rather than force, so that people are willingly injecting themselves with a poison.
That's a good guy plan to you?
Shit, you could literally march government stormtroopers into CNN and take it over by force, and deal with the resulting "civil war", and still have less deaths than the number of people in this country who will die of this apparently poisonous vaccine.
If you're looking for a Great Awakening where the survivors admit that you were right all along and this was all worth it, that's not going to be the path to get there. People would be losing their families to this, including Trump supporters.
In fact, I can't think of a single more likely cause of civil war than Q coming out and saying, "Yeah, well, tens of millions (or hundreds of millions) of innocent people died, sure, but at least you learned your lesson about believing the news."
You're assuming two things there: one is that every vaccine shot is fatal, and another is that a better alternative was available. I'm not sure that either assumption is correct.
In terms of "better alternative," keep in mind that I don't pretend to know the cabal's playbook of contingency plans, but a simple review of communist takeovers from Lenin to Mao to Pol Pot and Kim Jong Il have demonstrated that many worse outcomes exist. And the risk of being pushed into a situation of gradual and constant restriction from which escape appears impossible, like the Uighers and Chinese society in general, is real.
Of course it would be great if the cabal had been driven out before infiltration became endemic, at which point an open attack would be preferred by most everyone. But that isn't our situation. The assumption is that a head-on approach would have threatened the country's survival more than devolution and the current work of flipping assets, including media assets, to gradually bring people to see what was almost lost.
By the way, have you ever looked into the decoding symbols guy? (https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/blog/) His analysis is high-level meta. I think you'd appreciate it, although it is time-consuming.
I’ll take a look.
Trump has said that you have a choice. I believe he was showing us with operation warp speed, that pharma has the ability to do things in an exponential fashion with vaccines, albeit C-19, cancer, diabetes etc. I also do not think that he has disclosed any support of the 2-3 big name vaccines, only his initiative. He pushed HCQ and Ivermectin. To my knowledge he has still yet to name any of the majors. As with anything that is discussed on this platform, we need to approach everything with the basic scientific method we were taught in school. Develop hypothesis, test (gather data), and conclude. Just my 2 cents.
This daily discussion is starting to get old.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jwMOE57X/the-crowd-just-booed-trump-when-/
To be honest, i think it was an unforced error on his part. Rarely does he do stupid, but he did here.
No because he's been pushing the vax in various interviews. This wasn't a one-off comment.
If so, that bothers me. Definitely gives me pause.
So let's say he is against the vaccine. Then what?
The cabal has carte blanche justification for permanent lockdowns. No freedoms.
That was the whole point for operation warp speed. Trump said they would take years for a vaccine if it was up to them. Total lockdowns instead.
So Trump obviously has to maintain the charade.
It's not rocket science.
^This. If at any point the vax narrative falters then it's back to lockdowns and the DS original plan of vax development over years while we're all shut away again. Right or wrong he needs to hold the position and trust our free will- the alternative is the true Agenda 21.
Except he's no longer in a position of power. He doesn't have to "maintain" anything. Stumping for a Kill Shot is never justified, no matter how badly you want it to be. It's pure evil at worst, bad politics at best, given his core constituency.
I think Trump has a lot of power, in fact. You're in the wrong forum if you think everything ended on Jan 6th.
So you're stumping for total lockdowns, concentration camps and the end of the Constitution? Do you want us to look like Australia, but 10x worse?
This is war and sometimes you're not given the luxury of a black and white decision. Grow up and join the real world.
"Stop it" is not an argument. Please try again.
that is disappointing, but we honestly don't know the specifics of that deal. we all question why Trump let the lockdowns go on so long, and why he let Fauci take free reign with whatever he wanted to do. most theories here are he had to keep Fauci close to push him into the spotlight to highlight his wrongdoing so that when justice comes it can be served to the right people publicly. perhaps that is what he is also doing with gates. or it could very well be he is making a profit from it and that's all he cares about. but we are all here because we believe Trump along with the Q team are fighting for America. If you crumble at the first sign of trouble, then perhaps this isn't the movement for you. I do think it is a good idea to keep this in mind and do some more research though. We can't just blindly follow someone. That's what we're all fighting against. Our job is to question everything and research to find evidence to back everything up, even Trump.
I agree with all of your response
You're right. I'd rather the be in lockdown right now and sent to a U.N reeducation camp.
If we don't understand what is happening, you literally just insinuated that Trump is a part of the Cabal. You are questioning everything and that is good, however we don't have another wagon to hitch to. We have to trust that the big Plan is going to reveal the illusion that we have been living with. If Trump is a Cabal member, we are pretty much fucked. It will be a massive, unconstrained war with numbers of death and destruction in the hundreds of millions or billions and then a coordinated Holocaust to eliminate billions more. If you can't understand that the few tens, hundreds, thousands or millions isn't a sacrifice that has to be made, then you could never be a great leader. It sucks, its terrible, it is something I don't know if I could do, but it is necessary. It is a choice, allow any experimental shot to be put in your body or not. Generals make these decisions in war. We are at war. Trump is a general fighting this war. You can second guess his motives and decisions afterwards, but realize the opportunity to second guess will have been given to you by the White Hats. If you don't trust Q and don't have trust in the Plan, perhaps you are in the wrong forum. You should be joining a militia and preparing for a true world war where Death, disease, famine and unimaginable atrocities are coming. If you are a glowie or shill trying to sow dissent, then I know what is coming for you real soon. There is not true anonymity on the internet anymore.
just curious who your comment was directed at? some posts were deleted so I'm not sure if you were responding to me or the person who's comments got deleted.
Q did say that they were part of a secretive cabal of powerful people. Cabal means secretive group, and not necessarily anything negative, so it's a cabal.
You are trying to convince us that a secretive cabal of powerful people should be implicitly trusted. My position is that they should be implicitly distrusted by default. It may be that this cabal is not 100% ethical and has plans of their own.