Easy solution. round up the vaxed and intern, err quarantine them. See which population lives longer. See which group gets "variants". I know where my money is going to be.
Already been done. Just look at South Dakota, Belarus (who refused the IMF's 1 billion dollars to run the Covid scam); or Bulgaria, who refused to get the jab so their government gave up; or anywhere else they aren't doing this shit. Even Australia, we have no higher death rates than any of the previous five years. Nobody additional dying = no new virus. There is no Covid-19.
The flaw in your logic is that the "variants" harm the unvaxxed. The inverse is true.
With the chickens, the initial virus was deadly at a statistically significant level (10%? 20%?) .... not the Coof's 0.03%.
Take that into account and reconcile your logic. You come up with a very different result where it's a scheme to bleed the non elites dry of all wealth. Take the vaxx, and start paying though the nose when they decide to raise the cost astronomically, and gov't stops paying for it.
Then he doesn't understand that the way these vaccines work is why these variants are occurring. It is because of vaccinations which only address one binding site on the spike protein. When that site changes the vaccine doesn't work any more, and a "wild mutation" occurs.
All universal vaccination with this same limited vaccine is going to do is make enough mutations so that binding site will be irrelevant. These viruses are self replicating chemicals, they aren't exactly alive, and environmental pressure like a bunch of fake antibodies to one binding site will require them to learn a new way to work around that site. That's what the long dry tracking paper is about, sequencing lots of virus and locating little differences all over. The other paper doesn't come out and say it plainly, but this is why natural immunity from having had the disease is better, the body made more types of antibody..
So far it looks like the unvaxxed will either turn out to have immunity already from other corona infections, or they will get a better grade of immunity than from the vaccine if they get sick and recover. This imo would be the best way to get everyone as immune as possible, provided they can get therapy when ill. That's the kicker. Right now the treatment is spotty and uncoordinated, it all adds to the fear factor. It's too late to say "no one should be vaxxed." We only have the other two options now. It also looks like the predictions of "leaky vaccine" are coming true, and if ADE shows up in a big way, everyone will be in trouble, including those with natural immunity. At least it works that way with Dengue fever. Maybe that is your friend's worry and he thinks somehow vaccinating everyone will prevent it, but I can't see how with these mRNA vaccines. It seems to me that it will only make things worse and I'm sure someone is already doing research on whether the pseudo antibodies created by the vaccine work the same way as natural ones in ADE. And nothing will prevent a new deadly SARS or MERS from emerging. They already did on their own in the past. Covid-19 is SARS-2. And there are corona viruses in many animal populations, they are also mutating away and looking for opportunity to jump to another species. I think treatment is the only way.
That would be the likely direction. Get everyone hooked on vaxx, and then create designer vaxxes in the future that target individuals for a variety of reasons and purposes.
That is why it needs to stop now, and the criminals need to be prosecuted.
I have seen this idea floated elsewhere. I can see their evil minds plotting this. But I can also see them being way too lazy for all the work it would be to carry it out. But then they wouldn't care. Oooops, we forgot to manufacture enough antidote this year so a bunch of y'all gonna die.... not our fault.
Tossing caution to the wind and just ham-fisting the "vaccines" out in the hope they force mutate the virus into something unstoppable IS a plan.
But, unless they go full nano-machine technology to try and encode a more lethal virus with 5G or something, it probably won't get to that point without a miracle from God.
And I have a REALLY hard time believing God is gonna hand them that win.
why continue to push the vaccine when it's clear that a large number of people are NOT going to get it?
Because some people have a pathological mindset where they think they have a right to force other people to do what they want, and if "the smart people" have it figured out, than that is the end of the debate and everyone needs to get in line.
These people DO NOT BELIEVE IN NATURAL RIGHTS. They believe in the religion of government. They DO NOT CARE about philosophical debates because they assume they are smarter than you, so nothing you say could ever convince them. Any facts you bring up are dismissed because ... they are smarter than you, so your facts must be wrong.
It is the mindset of a tyrant.
EVERY chicken at birth must be vaccinated against it, or there's a risk of outbreaks that would cripple the industry or potentially drive chickens extinct.
I don't know about this, but I do know that chickens hatched and raised on natural farms do NOT need to vaccinate their birds. This virus you are talking about likely only harms chicks in the big factories, which are cesspools of nasty stuff.
They are almost there with a virus with 99.X% survivability, because the hysteria is moving the needle.
Pun intended
I would wager, and I'm not a conspiracy guy, that there are cancer treatments, and medications, that have shown efficacy locked away in the vaults at big pharma.
It's the flu propagandized into a pandemic. It's all fake. The shot is a bioweapon. Don't take it! The healthcare mafia is lying about all of it. The statistics are fake. The testing is flawed. The hospitals are following protocols that kill patients. This is war and Covid-19 is a massive psyop to destroy Americans and the rest of the world's citizens.
Ya know, that could be another reason why Trump is still pro-vax.
If he comes out as anti-vax, many may use it to protest the vaccines that actually DO work.
It would be like trying to unravel a stein of yarn out of some lawnmower blades to explain that the polio vaccines are still safe after Trump rails against the Covid vaccines.
We'll know better, but the seeds of mistrust will near irrevocably be planted.
Logically:Scenario 1 is not 'ideal' - it is the worst option.
With this (faux) vax, Scenario 1 (all vaxxed) is Scenario 3 (mutations) on steroids.
Why? Because this vax does not stop people from getting sick or transmitting it to others.
Therefore, the 'all vaxxed' option would still allow mutations, would prevent patient deaths that would 'cull' those dangerous mutations, and the option is maxxed out to the entire population.
Even with his pro-vax bias, your friend should see that. A non-vax, which is posing as a real-vax, is a bad thing.
No, I didn't 'jump on you', or 'attack you' --- I was trying to help by walking through a logical argument that you could use with your friend.
If 'everyone' is vaxxed, then 'everyone survives' (and every mutation survives).
If 'half' are vaxxed, then at least 'some' of the bad mutations would die off.
Therefore, the 'all-vaxxed' option keeps more mutations alive -- therefore (logically) it is the least-preferable option.
(Of course, this 'logical' argument is limited to the 'mutation' issue. Personally, I think that 'exercise of free-will' is a far better argument against vax mandates, but I realize that some people don't think free-will is important anymore.)
If you disagree with me, that's fine. I'll withdraw my small effort to help.
There have been no arrests, because much like your scenario outlined, Q team loses if they all continue to be bullied into silence and not squeel on each other ... which has previously been the status quo.
Misinformation induces datefagging, amplified by the foruns .... which shakes them up enough, making some squeel in an attempt to get favorable treatment. No arrests makes others question if a game is afoot, and forces some to demand their "payment" and others to keep committing crimes, while more and more start squeeling. The Q team racks up the indictments as time goes on. Only when they all realize they've all squeeled, do the big ones finally get nailed.
Datefagging therefore prevented a favorable Deep State outcome, and enables the Q Team to play the long game and guarantee to sweep the board if they are patient enough. And explains why the Anons and public Awakening is a critical part of the Plan (scenario 1, long term).
Mirror this to the vaxx paradigm: Misinformation creates "hesitency" .... AND FORCES SCENARIO 3 YOU OUTLINE BELOW. Q may have helped make us ultra suspicious of the vaxx in order to ENSURE A CONTROL GROUP is established to create undeniable evidence of the medical deepstate, enabling Trump to tell the truth. Inversely, if Trump is supplying the misinformation ... I guess this prevents the delima outcome where 5-10 year lockdowns are doable to force the Great Reset.
Or, these variants actually do exist, and are a critical step to opening the public eyes re: big pharma, and draining the pharma swamp. Hmmmm.
If your friend thinks the variants are because of the unvaxxed then he is a moron
Easy solution. round up the vaxed and intern, err quarantine them. See which population lives longer. See which group gets "variants". I know where my money is going to be.
Already been done. Just look at South Dakota, Belarus (who refused the IMF's 1 billion dollars to run the Covid scam); or Bulgaria, who refused to get the jab so their government gave up; or anywhere else they aren't doing this shit. Even Australia, we have no higher death rates than any of the previous five years. Nobody additional dying = no new virus. There is no Covid-19.
The flaw in your logic is that the "variants" harm the unvaxxed. The inverse is true.
With the chickens, the initial virus was deadly at a statistically significant level (10%? 20%?) .... not the Coof's 0.03%.
Take that into account and reconcile your logic. You come up with a very different result where it's a scheme to bleed the non elites dry of all wealth. Take the vaxx, and start paying though the nose when they decide to raise the cost astronomically, and gov't stops paying for it.
Look what they did with insulin.
Seems like their "vaccine" scam has been ready for many years ... the "virus" it was supposed to cure was not yet.
Hence why GEOTUS forced their hand and destroyed the strategy.
Yup, basically signing up your immune system for a booster subscription service.
Your subscription has expired. We're sorry to see you go. Would you like to renew?
Fook. That is a chilling realization. I hope you are wrong. I fear you may be right.
Behave or we won't give you your medicine...
I hope you are wrong. I fear you may be right.
Then he doesn't understand that the way these vaccines work is why these variants are occurring. It is because of vaccinations which only address one binding site on the spike protein. When that site changes the vaccine doesn't work any more, and a "wild mutation" occurs.
Too late to avoid variants (honestly, how does he as a virologist think a non-sterilizing vaccine is going to stop viral mutation?): https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/variants-concern
Multiple antibodies (i.e. that target multiple binding sites) work better: https://scitechdaily.com/new-research-explains-why-vaccinated-people-at-low-risk-during-covid-delta-variant-surge/
I have a better paper explaining the later somewhere around, will add if I find it.
All universal vaccination with this same limited vaccine is going to do is make enough mutations so that binding site will be irrelevant. These viruses are self replicating chemicals, they aren't exactly alive, and environmental pressure like a bunch of fake antibodies to one binding site will require them to learn a new way to work around that site. That's what the long dry tracking paper is about, sequencing lots of virus and locating little differences all over. The other paper doesn't come out and say it plainly, but this is why natural immunity from having had the disease is better, the body made more types of antibody..
So far it looks like the unvaxxed will either turn out to have immunity already from other corona infections, or they will get a better grade of immunity than from the vaccine if they get sick and recover. This imo would be the best way to get everyone as immune as possible, provided they can get therapy when ill. That's the kicker. Right now the treatment is spotty and uncoordinated, it all adds to the fear factor. It's too late to say "no one should be vaxxed." We only have the other two options now. It also looks like the predictions of "leaky vaccine" are coming true, and if ADE shows up in a big way, everyone will be in trouble, including those with natural immunity. At least it works that way with Dengue fever. Maybe that is your friend's worry and he thinks somehow vaccinating everyone will prevent it, but I can't see how with these mRNA vaccines. It seems to me that it will only make things worse and I'm sure someone is already doing research on whether the pseudo antibodies created by the vaccine work the same way as natural ones in ADE. And nothing will prevent a new deadly SARS or MERS from emerging. They already did on their own in the past. Covid-19 is SARS-2. And there are corona viruses in many animal populations, they are also mutating away and looking for opportunity to jump to another species. I think treatment is the only way.
Military was just boasting that they had a bioweapon that could wipe out entire races
That would be the likely direction. Get everyone hooked on vaxx, and then create designer vaxxes in the future that target individuals for a variety of reasons and purposes.
That is why it needs to stop now, and the criminals need to be prosecuted.
I have seen this idea floated elsewhere. I can see their evil minds plotting this. But I can also see them being way too lazy for all the work it would be to carry it out. But then they wouldn't care. Oooops, we forgot to manufacture enough antidote this year so a bunch of y'all gonna die.... not our fault.
So would they take the shot themselves?
Okay, okay, slow down.
I do think you have something here.
Tossing caution to the wind and just ham-fisting the "vaccines" out in the hope they force mutate the virus into something unstoppable IS a plan.
But, unless they go full nano-machine technology to try and encode a more lethal virus with 5G or something, it probably won't get to that point without a miracle from God.
And I have a REALLY hard time believing God is gonna hand them that win.
I've seen enough in the last 20 years to think you may be right. Every time I think "they" couldn't be that dumb or that evil, they prove me wrong.
According to the virologist I listened to, vaccinating DURING a pandemic is what’s causing the mutations. I’m no expert but that makes sense.
Because some people have a pathological mindset where they think they have a right to force other people to do what they want, and if "the smart people" have it figured out, than that is the end of the debate and everyone needs to get in line.
These people DO NOT BELIEVE IN NATURAL RIGHTS. They believe in the religion of government. They DO NOT CARE about philosophical debates because they assume they are smarter than you, so nothing you say could ever convince them. Any facts you bring up are dismissed because ... they are smarter than you, so your facts must be wrong.
It is the mindset of a tyrant.
I don't know about this, but I do know that chickens hatched and raised on natural farms do NOT need to vaccinate their birds. This virus you are talking about likely only harms chicks in the big factories, which are cesspools of nasty stuff.
They are almost there with a virus with 99.X% survivability, because the hysteria is moving the needle.
Pun intended
I would wager, and I'm not a conspiracy guy, that there are cancer treatments, and medications, that have shown efficacy locked away in the vaults at big pharma.
It's the flu propagandized into a pandemic. It's all fake. The shot is a bioweapon. Don't take it! The healthcare mafia is lying about all of it. The statistics are fake. The testing is flawed. The hospitals are following protocols that kill patients. This is war and Covid-19 is a massive psyop to destroy Americans and the rest of the world's citizens.
It will just get to the point that the vax will be mixed in with other things you get without you being told
Ya know, that could be another reason why Trump is still pro-vax.
If he comes out as anti-vax, many may use it to protest the vaccines that actually DO work.
It would be like trying to unravel a stein of yarn out of some lawnmower blades to explain that the polio vaccines are still safe after Trump rails against the Covid vaccines.
We'll know better, but the seeds of mistrust will near irrevocably be planted.
is it true that EVERY chicken is vaccinated? I find that hard to believe and quiet scary if true. makes me want to stop eating eggs altogether
Yep.
Logically: Scenario 1 is not 'ideal' - it is the worst option.
With this (faux) vax, Scenario 1 (all vaxxed) is Scenario 3 (mutations) on steroids.
Why? Because this vax does not stop people from getting sick or transmitting it to others.
Therefore, the 'all vaxxed' option would still allow mutations, would prevent patient deaths that would 'cull' those dangerous mutations, and the option is maxxed out to the entire population.
Even with his pro-vax bias, your friend should see that. A non-vax, which is posing as a real-vax, is a bad thing.
No, I didn't 'jump on you', or 'attack you' --- I was trying to help by walking through a logical argument that you could use with your friend.
If 'everyone' is vaxxed, then 'everyone survives' (and every mutation survives).
If 'half' are vaxxed, then at least 'some' of the bad mutations would die off.
Therefore, the 'all-vaxxed' option keeps more mutations alive -- therefore (logically) it is the least-preferable option.
(Of course, this 'logical' argument is limited to the 'mutation' issue. Personally, I think that 'exercise of free-will' is a far better argument against vax mandates, but I realize that some people don't think free-will is important anymore.)
If you disagree with me, that's fine. I'll withdraw my small effort to help.
This reads like a classic Prisoner's Delima from Game Theory .... holy crap. You just solved the puzzle of "Datefagging" for me:
u/#q2937
There have been no arrests, because much like your scenario outlined, Q team loses if they all continue to be bullied into silence and not squeel on each other ... which has previously been the status quo.
Misinformation induces datefagging, amplified by the foruns .... which shakes them up enough, making some squeel in an attempt to get favorable treatment. No arrests makes others question if a game is afoot, and forces some to demand their "payment" and others to keep committing crimes, while more and more start squeeling. The Q team racks up the indictments as time goes on. Only when they all realize they've all squeeled, do the big ones finally get nailed.
Datefagging therefore prevented a favorable Deep State outcome, and enables the Q Team to play the long game and guarantee to sweep the board if they are patient enough. And explains why the Anons and public Awakening is a critical part of the Plan (scenario 1, long term).
Mirror this to the vaxx paradigm: Misinformation creates "hesitency" .... AND FORCES SCENARIO 3 YOU OUTLINE BELOW. Q may have helped make us ultra suspicious of the vaxx in order to ENSURE A CONTROL GROUP is established to create undeniable evidence of the medical deepstate, enabling Trump to tell the truth. Inversely, if Trump is supplying the misinformation ... I guess this prevents the delima outcome where 5-10 year lockdowns are doable to force the Great Reset.
Or, these variants actually do exist, and are a critical step to opening the public eyes re: big pharma, and draining the pharma swamp. Hmmmm.
(Also: for other interesting hits https://qposts.online/?q=game+theory&s=keyword)
That is why we are lucky we have a solution without the jab - Ivermectin, D3, Zinc
Chickens have no choice
Just ask yourself: Would the criminals who created this stuff, like Fauci, want to live in a world like that themselves?
Doubtful. What they want is FEAR so people will take the mystery drug again and again and again.