I said because they got the vax they were going to keep getting Covid over and over until it killed them but people with natural immunity are done with it. They said prove it show me the science and I said no, you prove me wrong. They broke out their phone and all they could find were reports of people who are vaxxed getting Covid multiple times while not finding anything at all reported about people with antibodies. Their response after about 3 minutes of searching was “if you’re fucking right that’s fucked up” they woke up when they had to do the research.
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This is the way Q taught us. It is what we should be doing to teach others.
Everything from the cabal falls apart with even the slightest bit of research. Literally any questions at all.
No, not with ivermectin. If you google it, everything says it’s BS.
Pro tip to use google, add a filter to limit the search results to 2018-2019 it still works.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
Trust me. It works like a charm.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34466270/
Reminds me of what Jordan Peterson said about letting people do the work for themselves. Like watching your kid clean their room instead of doing it for them.
I’m glad that worked out for you, but it’s real hard to find actual sources they won’t just dismiss as conservative rhetoric, and not something reputable like CNN.
this! my lib friend will not take into consideration any information from a site he deems "untrustworthy" it's like cognitive dissonance to the most extreme level.
NIH/FDA studies and awards. Would your friend dispute "official" sources?
Though it worked in your case, "no, you prove me wrong" is bad-faith arguing if you have only presented opinions, which appears to be the case here. Had you backed up your opinion with supporting data along with it first, it would make sense to go that prove-me-wrong route. But that isn't the story you wrote.
I'm glad it worked out for you in this case though since it helped open someone else's eyes in the process.
These blue fucks get to make unsupported assertions all day and demand we prove them wrong. Turn their rules around on them!
I get what you're saying however I prefer to act more like me and less like them.
Sure! If it works for you, then thats the approach you hammer. However, turning their tactics on them works for others, and we need all fronts in this war.
Just because I don't live your philosophy doesn't mean I disagree with it, fren.
Then why call it "bad-faith" arguing?
Because that's exactly what it is. That's why the blue fucks, as you so endearingly referred to them, employ it as a tactic. Because it can be effective. Unfortunately, it's never effective against the truth. That's why I think it's more important to just be aligned with truth and accuracy in the first place instead of deploying alternative tactics. That's not to say that it can't be useful or have it's place on the side of good. I guess what I'm trying to say is, fuck Joe Biden.
If you abide by rules but your opponent doesn't, you're at a disadvantage.
That's like entering a boxing match, your opponent throws roundhouse and push kicks to keep you at bay, but you keep a bladed stance and focus on punching because you believe in the rules.
At some point you square off your bladed stance so you don't get dropped, and start checking them with kicks as well.
I showed them this article https://americanconservativemovement.com/2021/09/10/fully-vaccinated-daily-wire-reporter-gets-covid-for-the-third-time/
You showed them an article that you based your opinion on then told them to prove you wrong.
Please read back over what my comment is saying.
You are correct, but we were having a debate in which his arguments were opinion as well, we were both rattling off anecdotal evidences to which I was always expected to disprove. Unless it’s reported by the cdc nothing seems to stick and we know the cdc is not playing fair to out it mildly. I guess the bigger point I was making was that I had what felt like a win by reversing the argument. They understood for a moment what it was like.
Yeah, prove me wrong is generally not the way to go, but in your case he took the bait, so no foul. Good work.
The burden of proof rests squarely on the shoulders of the claimant, which is this particular case was OP. Shifting of the burden on proof is like logical fallacy 101 but honestly if it made the other guy FEEL like he lost then I say "fuck it" Good on OP.
Generally, I agree, but I think those with breakthrough infections will now have the antibodies... what gets interesting, however, is the expected severity of subsequent infections if you've been doped up with synthetic spike proteins leading to a larger cytokine storm.
Wow! That's awesome, fren. Must feel good. And I hope they really did swallow the red pill. At least you GOT them to actually look. It seems like pulling teeth to get people to do simple research. Thanks for the post.
Truth. I've questioned several people I know that took the vaccine if they looked into any side effects or alternative treatment options - not one of them did any research on either. These people are not hard-core leftists either, just normal people that thought they were doing the right thing by being vaxxed. They dismiss any question about the official COVID BS with the question "Why would they lie to us about this?" assuming they are not being lied to - I ask "Why would they lie to us about this?" while assuming the official narrative is a lie and then go do research to prove/disprove what they have said. "It's easier to convince someone of a lie then it is to convince someone they've been lied to."
So true. Nobody wants to think they're fallible enough to fall or a lie or that they are so out of the loop they really have no idea what is going on. Human pride.
Amen to that!!!! Keep up the good work!!! Great strategy, have them find the science they claim is correct!!
I told them to prove to how congress’ immunity was different from other fed workers to be exempt from mandates...crickets.
BASEDAF!! That’s awesome!!👊🏻🦅🇺🇸
Damn that’s a good one. Hahaha I’m gonna try it and see what happens.
And that, fren, is how its done. Cheers
Perfect!
I wish the arguments I have could be framed so easily. Yesterday a family member of mine said she was worried about my health. I asked why? She said because I hadn't gotten the vax. I said thanks for your concern but I feel very confident about my choice to not get it. I've done my research. She said what, like you Googled it? I said no, I don't put any faith in Google. I follow experts in the field to which she responded, yeah like more of an expert than Fauci? She rolled her eyes and walked away. The only thing that would wake her up is Fauci's arrest if even then. When Rand Paul confronted him with evidence that he lied about funding the Wuhan Lab and asked if he wanted to retract his prior statement he said he never lied. You can show him hard evidence and he still denies it. That's who she believes. Evidence alone won't wake them up.
Very nice! Thanks for this! 🙏🏻❤️
No true libtard does research or changes their mind.
Glad to hear that worked, normally i get them pulling up saved blogs that just link back to themselves for sources.
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Brilliant. My parents are talking about getting their "booster shot" I'm trying to figure out how to gently red pill them on it. The sources they accept are basically limited to the CDC and Fauci.... I did mention some sources in the CDC are hesitant about the booster but it seemed to roll right off them. They also told me they are going to get their flu vaccine before coming out to help with the baby (we are expecting any day now). These baby boomers just love shooting drugs.
Ha Ha ! That's great for both parties !
Good job, now I will try my brother and sister with this line of reasoning. Nothing is working so far. They both are jabbed.
This guy doesn't sound like we was to far into the sleep
Im reading quite a few naysayer comments, however I think you pulled off a nice twist, and helped your friend see things from a new perspective. Good work!
I'm not sure why they weren't able to find resources on this. The CDC has published a report regarding individuals being reinfected with COVID.
May not be a source you trust or agree with, but they do exist.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w
interesting read, scroll down to the very bottom they admit to changing the data points to fit their narrative lol "Case-patients were considered partially (not fully) vaccinated if the final dose was received <14 days before their reinfection date"
And for good reason.
The vaccine does not surge through your body within minutes of the shot. It takes a little while for the vaccine to “program” the immune system to recognize the virus. You’re not immediately vaccinated the moment the needle leaves your arm.
This is not uncommon for many medications.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html
you say many medications, but the link is specific to rona, got anything else? the cdc doesn't even know what a vaccine is lol. https://rifnote.com/2021/09/08/cdcs-evolving-definition-of-vaccination-webpage-archives-show-cdc-changed-the-definition-of-vaccination-3-times-in-6-years-replaced-immunity-with/
I mean, there are lots of medications that take a while for your body chemistry to react. Many medications for immunological conditions (like biologics) can take a while. SSRIs generally take a few weeks to adjust. So forth.
I imagine that they replaced "immunity" with "protection" because immunity has a different meaning in medicine than it does in common parlance, and they don't want people to get confused. The immune system makes you truly immune to absolutely nothing. It provides an immune response.
Immune in common tongue means, "impossible to injure." In medical-speak, it means, " protection against injury."
my guy, even msm knows the shots aren't working. Isreal is on their 4th booster, 70-80% of the population vaccinated, yet "New daily coronavirus infections, have just climbed to record levels." https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/30/israel-doubles-down-on-covid-booster-shots-as-breakthrough-cases-rise.html
Requiring a booster is not an indication that the vaccine isn't working. It's an indication that the vaccine isn't permanent. Which we knew.
sir, there's been a train wreck! don't worry, the mayor is sending more trains! just because you put an unproven, experimental drug into your body doesn't mean you can guilt us into doing the same lol sorry, we're pureblood and theres nothing you can do about it
Anyone that did research knew before getting the vax that there were other treatment options that are cheap, effective, and not brand-new technology that skipped animal studies and "ran out of time" while looking into post vax covid infections during their FREAK'N 30 DAY LONG CLINICAL TRIAL. The effective covid treatments negated the need for their EXPERIMENTAL vaccine. Natural immunity is 13X more effective at preventing covid then the vaccines so no need for a "booster" if you've had covid and recovered.
So take your boosters and leave us to die alone.
It's part of breaking the feed me mentality you get instilled in you in school. I've been telling people to do their own research for over a decade now. I am so happy to see all of you.