Yep. Didn't you know the OP knew about Epstein back in the 1990s? My question is why didn't he make the effort to inform Trump? I mean he should have stopped him. That makes OP an accessory to the crime of air busing on an Epstein plane.
It's sarcasm tard. His first legal proceedings started around 2005 so before then it's entirely plausible that various people didn't know what he was doing. Then consider Trump flew on the plane 15 years prior.
Epstein was born in 1953. By the 90's he was approaching or in his 40's. He was a sick son of a bitch well before the plane ride with Trump. I'm going to research when the first stories started trickling in about Epstein's proclivities. For your own dipshit logic to work one would have to assume that the man most plugged in to the workings of the deep state didn't have a clue. I don't buy your logic either.
I'm not claiming bad behavior on Trump's part but man!!!....I hate the fact that I have to defend this decision of his. It's a bad look.
I'm pissed about it and looking to vent and/or get some answers - and that's okay too. I can come here and do that Three_on_the_Tree...WWG1WGA. Now be the froggy friend you're supposed to be, and talk me off the ledge dipshit.
For your own dipshit logic to work one would have to assume that the man most plugged in to the workings of the deep state didn't have a clue.
What makes you think Trump was "plugged in to the workings of the DS" back in the 90's? It was my understanding that the military approached Trump and asked him to run for president. Is it not plausible that he didn't know then what he knows now thanks to military briefings?
Just curious why does this need to be defended? He took one trip and never got on the plane again. Who gives a fuck? 1990, Epstein was a new unknown rich guy trying to buy influence and credibility by sucking up to anyone with money, that was his start. He was a construct, a Golem, he was financed and turned loose to start operations and Trump didn't fall for his shit.
Trump later even banned him from Trump properties. Quit shilling, Trump is not an Epstein success story like every person who flew repeatedly and visited pedo island. Go bark up Clinton's tree, that is where the story is, and that's a good reason for some people to muddy the waters by continuously injecting Trump where he should not be the focal point.what did Q say? Look here, not there. You are doing a good job, but it works better if you go back to Reddit.
Because I'm already getting bombarded with it. I don't just live in the G/A world. I am on many forums....but, never reddit - nice try though. Did Trump dine at the Epstein trough? Never in a million years. We should be able to discuss this issue though. What are the reasons he would put himself on the plane of a dead-eyed soul harvester? People like Epstein stand out in a crowd...and not in a good way. The spirit knows what the intellect refuses to understand and exposes the essence of evil is as thoroughly as skunk spray. Was this during a period of time where Trump was, essentially Godless?
You're likely getting bombarded because you're pretty far behind the curve, informationally speaking. Questions are one thing, implied accusations another.
He may have suspected or may have been entirely unaware. It's really an unknowable. I think it was Maria Farmer's account that put Ivana and Maxwell together as buds (I heard her whole interviews but it was a long time ago.)
Maria Farmer isn't involved in Maxwell's case. At the time, I thought it might have been an open secret sort of thing. Like Harvey Weinstein... though doubt that DJT may have had direct knowledge.
I'm beginning to think we don't all have the same strong tie in with The Holy Spirit. I think that is the disconnect here. I assumed you all are getting the same spiritual confirmations that I get about people. There is a realization taking root that many people lack that ability. It's a subject better suited for other forums, but that's it...perhaps. We're not even talking about the same thing.
Trump was the only one in the billionaire crowd who not only kicked Epstein out of his club but also volunteered to testify against Epstein, and that was before he was even a Christian.
You might want to consider looking into timelines before leveling accusations. Slander isn't something that the Holy Spirit approves of.
What I dont get about this propaganda is that it's obvious when Trump announced his run, literally the entire deep State went full on attack mode. They had to resort to outright lies just to have a daily headline.
Yet not one single word or question about Trump and his knowing Epstein came out until years into his Presidency.
Wouldn't it make sense to bring something like that up if there was anything there, IDK like right after Trump announcement? He wouldn't have made it to the Primaries.
No instead it was ignored until Epstein could no longer be ignored then ALL OF A SUDDEN
Now the MSM is going to explore the situation in the hope of destroying Trump. In the mean time, they will destroy all the others and leave Trump in an even better situation.
You can say this is rubbish, but as a pattern, it happens over and over with Trump.
I call it Trump judo.
Can't the MSM see it coming after all the other examples? I can.
This is a helpful reply that attempts to create causality - a connection between the act and it's effect. Trump, as a master planner, can use the event as a catalyst for some desired outcome. That works for me.
What does he hope to achieve? Deep diving? [They] think Trump's implicated and so, not 10 people investigate Epstein and Maxwell, but rather 10,000 people - and most of them patriots.
How about this.....You claim Trump was placed as President 45.....Wht wouldnt the same people be like...."Yo there is an asshole doing asshole thing" "Since you helped us take down Mafia wanna do child sex exposure?" Seem like a White hat kinda thing to do....Place a well known playboy, in with another rich well known playboy to get dirt...holy shit O_O Imagine that.....a secret operation
I don't think this is a bad thing. It's very possible he didn't know. They knew a lot of the same people, traveled in the same circles, etc. They could have been acquainted without actually knowing each other well. Also, IF Trump were involved in illegal things, we would want to know, wouldn't we? I would. I don't believe for a minute that he ever had sexual relations with children, but if he did, I'd want to know.
Yes, quite possibly. Do you know everything about everyone with whom you are acquainted No, of course not. How long had he known him at that point? We're talking about 25 years ago. AND, we know that once Trump did know something was up, he banned him from Maralago. So if he had known as early as this incident, why wouldn't he have taken steps then? Use logic.
he did take steps, they prosecuted epstein and Trump was very upfront with the lawyers involved. your logic is up your ass. Trump is way ahead, you'll see.
Well it did draw a lot of attention room to Epstein while Pres Trump was in office 🤷🏻♀️. Who knows what the motivation or objective was but I don’t think he does much by impulse…
If someone were to look into my past associations they could probably malign me too. Lets just say when I was young I trusted my freinds and family members, I trusted that they would protect and watch over me. I ,unknowingly at the time, was very close to some very illegal stuff , part of why I have lost all faith in humanity. So I still give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Because you have no BALLS don't think that President Trump is neutered like you. How can you even begin to make a statement like that when you must know unless you are a commie rat bastard that President Trump always has a reason for doing what he does and is always ten steps ahead. Do you think he just recently started caring for trafficked children? My wife and I were not going to vote in 2016 for anyone unless Trump ran....TO SAVE THE CHILDREN! he's been on point for many years.
Well, if you knew in 1997 when Trump flew to Newark from Florida on a plane belonging to Epstein, that Epstein would be first investigated for pedo crimes in 2005, I guess so.
That's not logical. He knew he was a low life when he threw him out of Mar a lago sometime in the 2000's when he hit on a teenage daughter of one of his guests. I was friends with someone in elementary school that became scum years later. I feel no guilt. I'm not clairvoyant and I don't believe Trump is either.
Easy to forget he's human. The left will make up whatever they want whenever they want. If he had never laid eyes on Epstein, some media outlet would claim he and Trump were best friends. Then they'd hire some foreign asset to create a fake black book full of dates, times, and locations that Trump and Epstein island hopped to do dastardly deeds. Come on, you know the playbook.
Dipshit logic, obviously President Trump didn't know at the time.
Yep. Didn't you know the OP knew about Epstein back in the 1990s? My question is why didn't he make the effort to inform Trump? I mean he should have stopped him. That makes OP an accessory to the crime of air busing on an Epstein plane.
Me? I'm the OP...I knew?
It's sarcasm tard. His first legal proceedings started around 2005 so before then it's entirely plausible that various people didn't know what he was doing. Then consider Trump flew on the plane 15 years prior.
Epstein was born in 1953. By the 90's he was approaching or in his 40's. He was a sick son of a bitch well before the plane ride with Trump. I'm going to research when the first stories started trickling in about Epstein's proclivities. For your own dipshit logic to work one would have to assume that the man most plugged in to the workings of the deep state didn't have a clue. I don't buy your logic either.
I'm not claiming bad behavior on Trump's part but man!!!....I hate the fact that I have to defend this decision of his. It's a bad look.
I'm pissed about it and looking to vent and/or get some answers - and that's okay too. I can come here and do that Three_on_the_Tree...WWG1WGA. Now be the froggy friend you're supposed to be, and talk me off the ledge dipshit.
What makes you think Trump was "plugged in to the workings of the DS" back in the 90's? It was my understanding that the military approached Trump and asked him to run for president. Is it not plausible that he didn't know then what he knows now thanks to military briefings?
Just curious why does this need to be defended? He took one trip and never got on the plane again. Who gives a fuck? 1990, Epstein was a new unknown rich guy trying to buy influence and credibility by sucking up to anyone with money, that was his start. He was a construct, a Golem, he was financed and turned loose to start operations and Trump didn't fall for his shit. Trump later even banned him from Trump properties. Quit shilling, Trump is not an Epstein success story like every person who flew repeatedly and visited pedo island. Go bark up Clinton's tree, that is where the story is, and that's a good reason for some people to muddy the waters by continuously injecting Trump where he should not be the focal point.what did Q say? Look here, not there. You are doing a good job, but it works better if you go back to Reddit.
Because I'm already getting bombarded with it. I don't just live in the G/A world. I am on many forums....but, never reddit - nice try though. Did Trump dine at the Epstein trough? Never in a million years. We should be able to discuss this issue though. What are the reasons he would put himself on the plane of a dead-eyed soul harvester? People like Epstein stand out in a crowd...and not in a good way. The spirit knows what the intellect refuses to understand and exposes the essence of evil is as thoroughly as skunk spray. Was this during a period of time where Trump was, essentially Godless?
You're likely getting bombarded because you're pretty far behind the curve, informationally speaking. Questions are one thing, implied accusations another.
Okay, I'll nibble. What curve am I behind specifically that stuck out to you?
The timeline and history of Trump and Epstein. Might wanna look into it ;)
He may have suspected or may have been entirely unaware. It's really an unknowable. I think it was Maria Farmer's account that put Ivana and Maxwell together as buds (I heard her whole interviews but it was a long time ago.) Maria Farmer isn't involved in Maxwell's case. At the time, I thought it might have been an open secret sort of thing. Like Harvey Weinstein... though doubt that DJT may have had direct knowledge.
Looked round and found a 20 minute vid, July 2020 that is shorter than the other interviews... that makes the claim that at least Ivana knew according to Farmer, but she even says she doesn't know if Ivana even knew at about 4 minutes in: https://ugetube.com/watch/ivana-trump-procuring-with-ghislaine-maxwell-maria-farmer_ypN4lCVcAkKQwT2.html
Opinion. You have no idea what he knew/knows.
Bullshit. He did not know about Epstein and kicked him out of maralago when he found out. You are glowing brightly little glowie
You calling me glowie means nothing.
I think a ton of people knew what Epstein was up to. I think a lot of those in the know were in Trumps orbit as well. To ask why is an honest query.
I think I know what you’re up to. I think a lot of us on this board are in the know about your glow.
I'm beginning to think we don't all have the same strong tie in with The Holy Spirit. I think that is the disconnect here. I assumed you all are getting the same spiritual confirmations that I get about people. There is a realization taking root that many people lack that ability. It's a subject better suited for other forums, but that's it...perhaps. We're not even talking about the same thing.
Trump was the only one in the billionaire crowd who not only kicked Epstein out of his club but also volunteered to testify against Epstein, and that was before he was even a Christian.
You might want to consider looking into timelines before leveling accusations. Slander isn't something that the Holy Spirit approves of.
Are you assuming he's supposed to be a mind reader or a future teller? This was back in the 90's. It wasn't widly known yet who this man really was.
I'm going to look into that. Pedo's show their colors early in life. I bet they all knew in the 70's and 80's Epstein was a piece of shit pedo.
What I dont get about this propaganda is that it's obvious when Trump announced his run, literally the entire deep State went full on attack mode. They had to resort to outright lies just to have a daily headline.
Yet not one single word or question about Trump and his knowing Epstein came out until years into his Presidency.
Wouldn't it make sense to bring something like that up if there was anything there, IDK like right after Trump announcement? He wouldn't have made it to the Primaries.
No instead it was ignored until Epstein could no longer be ignored then ALL OF A SUDDEN
DDDRRRUUUMMPPFFFF.
It's obviously a sad attempt to deflect.
Also - remember when Julian Assange was asked what dirt there was on Trump and he said "there is none".
No one's said anything about women who cant be impregnated so that's not pedophilia
We are all looking forward to reviewing your evidence of that assertion.
Question is, did trump know what Epstien was doing back then.
Maybe it was done for a situation just like this.
Now the MSM is going to explore the situation in the hope of destroying Trump. In the mean time, they will destroy all the others and leave Trump in an even better situation.
You can say this is rubbish, but as a pattern, it happens over and over with Trump.
I call it Trump judo.
Can't the MSM see it coming after all the other examples? I can.
They are desperate and can't help themselves.
"We've really got him this time boys!"
Veritas Omnia Vincula Vincit ...
We have it all.
This is a helpful reply that attempts to create causality - a connection between the act and it's effect. Trump, as a master planner, can use the event as a catalyst for some desired outcome. That works for me.
What does he hope to achieve? Deep diving? [They] think Trump's implicated and so, not 10 people investigate Epstein and Maxwell, but rather 10,000 people - and most of them patriots.
I don't think they can hold this dam. The info will be so toxic.
Was this before or after GEOTUS banned him from Mar-a-lago?
How about this.....You claim Trump was placed as President 45.....Wht wouldnt the same people be like...."Yo there is an asshole doing asshole thing" "Since you helped us take down Mafia wanna do child sex exposure?" Seem like a White hat kinda thing to do....Place a well known playboy, in with another rich well known playboy to get dirt...holy shit O_O Imagine that.....a secret operation
Many have probably hanged out with criminals of all kinds and no idea! Now if you keep them as close friends knowingly, then there's a problem!
I don't think this is a bad thing. It's very possible he didn't know. They knew a lot of the same people, traveled in the same circles, etc. They could have been acquainted without actually knowing each other well. Also, IF Trump were involved in illegal things, we would want to know, wouldn't we? I would. I don't believe for a minute that he ever had sexual relations with children, but if he did, I'd want to know.
didn't know????
Yes, quite possibly. Do you know everything about everyone with whom you are acquainted No, of course not. How long had he known him at that point? We're talking about 25 years ago. AND, we know that once Trump did know something was up, he banned him from Maralago. So if he had known as early as this incident, why wouldn't he have taken steps then? Use logic.
he did take steps, they prosecuted epstein and Trump was very upfront with the lawyers involved. your logic is up your ass. Trump is way ahead, you'll see.
Dude, you have serious emotional control issues. I feel sorry for your wife. Would you speak to her that way? Probably.
By the way, that was years later. So he may or may not have known at that time.
1990s was a different time.
Well it did draw a lot of attention room to Epstein while Pres Trump was in office 🤷🏻♀️. Who knows what the motivation or objective was but I don’t think he does much by impulse…
If someone were to look into my past associations they could probably malign me too. Lets just say when I was young I trusted my freinds and family members, I trusted that they would protect and watch over me. I ,unknowingly at the time, was very close to some very illegal stuff , part of why I have lost all faith in humanity. So I still give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
Angry mean comments in here. Why so grumpy everyone?
It's a touchy subject: what did Trump know and when did he know it?
I love Trump, I have mad respect for him, and I support him completely.
...but I don't put him on a pedestal. And I don't glow :-}
Because you have no BALLS don't think that President Trump is neutered like you. How can you even begin to make a statement like that when you must know unless you are a commie rat bastard that President Trump always has a reason for doing what he does and is always ten steps ahead. Do you think he just recently started caring for trafficked children? My wife and I were not going to vote in 2016 for anyone unless Trump ran....TO SAVE THE CHILDREN! he's been on point for many years.
Well, if you knew in 1997 when Trump flew to Newark from Florida on a plane belonging to Epstein, that Epstein would be first investigated for pedo crimes in 2005, I guess so.
We boast all of the time about Trump's tie-ins with 'people-in-the-know'. So, - he knew.
That's not logical. He knew he was a low life when he threw him out of Mar a lago sometime in the 2000's when he hit on a teenage daughter of one of his guests. I was friends with someone in elementary school that became scum years later. I feel no guilt. I'm not clairvoyant and I don't believe Trump is either.
Before it was known he was a giant pedo.
He's made several strange decisions. Most of the time he gives the left ammo for free.
He loans them ammo which backfires on them.
Easy to forget he's human. The left will make up whatever they want whenever they want. If he had never laid eyes on Epstein, some media outlet would claim he and Trump were best friends. Then they'd hire some foreign asset to create a fake black book full of dates, times, and locations that Trump and Epstein island hopped to do dastardly deeds. Come on, you know the playbook.