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My cardiologist called to reschedule my yearly check-up because they are overbooked with tons of new patients.
posted 3 years ago by sleepydude 3 years ago by sleepydude +492 / -0

I wonder why...

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– mac1221 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

We do have some anecdotal reports of certain people that are affected by some type of vaxxine transmission - but nothing that I am aware of that can be substantiated. Symptomology of possible cardiac issues are shortness of breath, either with activity or at rest, accompanied by chest pain and sometimes irregular heartbeat. There can also be fluid retention in the lower extremities as well as fatigue that does not resolve with rest. Elevated troponin levels and increased C-reactive protein are all markers for heart muscle damage. D-dimer looks for clotting. These are not part of regular CBC/blood chem panels and must be ordered. Other testing involves imaging of the heart. Some people are told they have anxiety. Not that this cannot be an problem and the clinical symptoms can often present the same as cardiac issues, but it seems lately that many people with real heart problems are being told it is all in their head. God bless.

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I had myopercarditis due to food poisoning. Had elevated troponin levels and irregular EKG. The urgent care called a STEMI code for me, telling the people on staff to be ready for a cardiac event. I was 34, and that was November 2019. It's a hell of a thing for younger people to present with cardiac problems I bet.

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– mac1221 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The more sensitive troponin testing has helped in making a diagnosis for these type of inflammatory myocardial conditions versus other causes of chest pain. Did you have much myocardial involvement? What is bad for these young people is that they have myocarditis. All of them are going to have some degree of heart muscle involvement. Only time will tell how much and if it will shorten their lives. Truly sad indeed considering they gained nothing for the risk other than being able to virtue signal.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not really, no. My left arm started to tingle; the feeling went to my forearm and up my neck to around my jaw. Obviously with that, you'd really start to worry. The whole experience was surreal, from them wheeling me into a bay to laying in the recovery room after the catheter lab, and before I got a room.

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– mac1221 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

That is good. Your condition was more of a pericarditis with some myocardial involvement. I imagine it was not a good time for sure. Thank God you were diagnosed and treated quickly. Glad you didn't have any lingering issues. This experience allows you to empathize with others going through the same thing - especially the kids. Stay healthy fren.

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– SoMuchWinning45 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you, fren.

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– shadowsheikh 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Get her some weed stat!

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– iNeedToBeInFlorida 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I can confirm- was having back pains, chest pains, head aches, and leg cramps all day.

Came home, smoked a bong, all good.

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– DroppsaDuece 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Dr. Cheech advises a lifetime prescription for you malady.

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– axiy 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Does it hurt after she feels exhausted, for example after doing an activity? That's what my mom had for a while (now she's fine for almost 3 months so far). Aspirin proved useful in providing quick relief against heart pain. I also believe Ivermectin did quite a lot of long-term help in stopping the spike proteins.

Godspeed

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– memeYourDreams 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Let's hope it's just her realizing how agonizing oblivious and dense her co-workers are lol.

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– Brew_Dude 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

"Perfectly normal."

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– ILoveIvermectin 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

This is fine

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– onedongerlonger 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

This is exactly why medical advancements take so long to happen. We wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait until finally a study is done. Then we wait , and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and wait, and do one more study. More waiting, followed by more studying, followed by more waiting, until some fucking intern at a media outlet is told to do a write up on tHe ScIeNcE.

But by that time, untold numbers of people have either died, been sent to hospice or are forever customers of the industry that just cares so SOO fucking much about your health.

Infuriating is an understatement.

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– Patriot_Grazer 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I am right there with you.

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– tchouk 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Except when it comes to the vax. 2 months of poor quality testing and we're good to go! Start forcing pregnant women and toddlers to get it.

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– onedongerlonger 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Exactly. They're doing everything they can to get it on the childhood vaccine schedule so pharma has ZERO LEGAL LIABILITY for the coof shots FOREVER.

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– DrRonnie 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I had a stress test last year, and was told my heart is very healthy for someone over 40. Why so healthy? I’m poison-free.

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– PhDinNY 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

You might want to look into getting a coronary calcium scan. It can reveal heart disease that has no conventional symptoms. I'm in NY and it was only $100. Mine showed I have calcification of cholesterol deposits in my coronary arteries. I'm waiting to get the "score" they assign to the scan to provide an indication of how advanced it is. My only symptom was been slowly increasing blood pressure over the years, but never at a level to be THAT concerned about (now I wish I had gotten this scan many years ago). A medical anon here (went through med school but left the profession after seeing how corrupt it is) pointed me to the following video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSPcuGjstN4

I'm trying to get my wife to have the scan, even though she has ABSOLUTELY no symptoms. Even if nothing shows up, it's pretty cool to see the "3-D" images of your own heart :)

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– AngelCole 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Purebloods rock!🐸

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– Poogletti 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

My husband is one of the newbies. Vaxxed, mid-40s, and is scheduled for a pacemaker next month due to 3rd degree atrioventricular block. Of course, I can’t prove it was the vaxx, but the cardiologist and electrophysiologist said this issue is insanely rare for his age.

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– swimkin 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I know someone who got vaxxed this summer. Now the guy is in his seventies so it could be a coincidence. However, after his second jab he began to get angina. A month or so later he had a triple bypass As he was healing up from surgery he ended up getting Shingles (Herpes Zoster and Shingles are frequently being seen in vaxxed peeps). The shingles was more painful to him than the heart surgery.

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– DoubleWideInTheWoods 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

My vaxed aunt developed shingles too right after her booster.

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– blacksmith21 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Yep

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– Nolagirl99 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

And aids… that surprised me until it didn’t

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– ProphetOfKek 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Anything that stresses your body or mind can provoke shingles.

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– DoubleWideInTheWoods 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I'm 50 y/o and this is the first person I've known to ever have shingles.

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– blacksmith21 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I had it at 34. Massive levels of stress.

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– ProphetOfKek 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don’t doubt you, but my wife and I have both had it before. And I know many who have.

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– PatrioticWoman45 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I know people who have had shingles. It is a blooming NIGHTMARE! Such pain. My grandmother in early 80’s had it.

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– DoubleWideInTheWoods 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Was your grandmother under any type of stress when she developed it? My aunt is married to a chiropractor and has taken much better care of herself than her sisters. She has also lost weight without trying lately. She is in her 70s so health problems shouldn't come as a surprise (although her grandfather worked in a sawmill until his early 80s, smoked and ate bacon and eggs daily). Her generation is costing the Federal government a lot of money. I can't help but wonder if these shots are used to kill off the Boomers at a faster rate.

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– sgtnoodle 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have a very dear "aunt"/Godmother type in her 90's who immediately developed shingles in her eye and tested positive for covid within days of getting vaccinated. Definitely almost killed her. This was right when the vaccines were rolled out.

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– sgtnoodle 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I'm younger than your husband and developed 3rd degree AV block, but not due to anything covid related. I'm surprised they scheduled the pacemaker so far out. They threw one in me within 24 hours of going to the ER.

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– Poogletti 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

His was detected by accident during a routine physical. An abnormal heartbeat detected during the physical led to EKG which led to stress test and other tests which led to diagnosis. He actually doesn’t have any symptoms (other than fatigue he’d previously written off that he’s now thinking might be due to this) which they attribute to him being very athletic; I think that’s why they were comfortable making him wait. We have instructions to go to the ER if he starts getting faint, having pains, etc.

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– sgtnoodle 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If there's no fear of unknown infection, hopefully they have him on high dose Prednisone. If the tissue isn't scarred over yet, those nerves can regrow. Luckily 2 of mine started working again.

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– sgtnoodle 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The good news, by the way, is that even if those nerves are shot forever, modern pacemakers are really good at replacing them. It's almost flawless. It took my cardiologist a couple weeks to dial mine in because it was a little wonky at first, but it wasn't a big deal; there's dozens of parameters that can be fine tuned. (and it helped that I am an engineer and built my own ECG, because the first week my heart beat was instantaneously alternating between 50 and 100bpm. Sending the dr. a trace of that got me an appointment with him 8AM the next morning!)

Really the only observable downside is that, unlike your nerves, the pacemaker has a programmed upper pulse rate limit. The factory default is something like 155bpm, which works fine for elderly people, but for younger fit people that's pretty low. The cardiologist can crank it up to maybe 190bpm, but they won't want to because it's close to the limit of what the pacemaker can actually do to reliably sequence the heart muscles correctly. This is actually a big deal for usability because, in the case of a straight forward AV block, the sinus node is still working properly and generating your natural atrial pulse rate. The pacemaker is just doing its best to detect the atrial beats and propagating the signal down to the ventricles in place of the damaged nerves. If your natural pulse rate goes up above that programmed limit, the pacemaker can't do anything to slow down the sinus node, and so instead it simply has to start skipping every other ventricle beat. When working out, this means that you could be right below the limit and your heart is beating fine, and then a moment later your heart rate increases slightly above the limit and your ventricles suddenly start beating at half the rate. Doing cardio for 15 minutes and then having your effective heart rate instantaneously drop from 155bpm to 78bpm does not feel pleasant; I'm pretty sure that's the "sudden feeling of impending doom" symptom that gets rattled off in prescription drug commercials. It happened to me several times while exercising and I had to immediately sit or lay down for several minutes and let my body work it out.

After a few months I was able to convince my cardiologist to crank up my limit to 180bpm, but then a week later my nerves luckily started working enough on their own again that it didn't really matter, since a standard pacemaker can't (and shouldn't) prevent the nerves from working naturally. That lead to another interesting quirk, where now any time my heart rate briefly shoots up above 190bpm or do, I get a call from my dr's office a week later (and my insurance probably billed $500) because the pacemaker logged it as a potential tachycardia event and reported it through its automatic telemetry system. I've had three awkward phone calls now where a nurse asked me if I remembered whether I was exercising last week at 11pm or whatever, and I said something like, "well no, that wouldn't make sense because my wife and I were on vacation... Oh, yeah it's probably just a false positive, let's not worry about it."

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– Poogletti 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My husband is getting a leadless pacemaker. Apparently, they don’t have the ability to control the upper pace limit; they only stop the pulse from getting too low. That will be interesting for him, because his heart rate doesn’t get up to a normal pace when he works out. When they did the treadmill stress test, they could only get him up to 75 bpm after 7 minutes of pretty intense cardio. However, they decided to go with the leadless pacemaker because he does a lot of weightlifting and relies heavily on it for mental health, and they’re worried that he would break the leads on a normal pacemaker doing some of the different types of movements. His heart rate got as low as 21 bpm when wearing a Holter monitor, so I think they’re more worried about that. He already experiences the sudden drop in heart rate when he works out. I’ve watched it plummet from 80s to 40s in a matter of a couple of seconds while he was on a stationary bike. He usually just takes a few minutes of rest for it to normalize and is fine after that.

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– sgtnoodle 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Coincidentally, my lowest measured rate was 21bpm too. That's pretty impressive he could still exercise! That makes me think he could have been living with the total block for many months. I could walk normally, but the week before I got treated I would have blacked out just by jogging more than 30 seconds, and my kidneys were underperforming from the lack of normal flow. My decline was gradual over about 3 months, and I had a similar feeling of unexplained fatigue.

That's an interesting take on the leadless pacemaker. For lack of the atrial lead, it's just going to beat the ventricles unsynchronized. In terms of blood flow it seems like it should be perfectly fine since your husband is a beast. I would wonder about the long term effects on the heart muscles, though. Presumably, his atriums are beating at 2 or 3x the rate of his ventricles at the moment. With the leadless pacemaker, it seems like that wouldn't change much. With the chambers all poorly unsynchronized, the heart works less efficiently as a pump and so has to work harder than otherwise, and as a result can (only potentially) lead to enlargement over time to compensate.

Both with a leadless pacemaker, and a standard two lead one, only the right (for a typical setup) ventricle is getting "captured". The left ventricle beats maybe 100ms later once the bioelectrical signal propagates through the muscle tissue. That bias leads to your ventricles doing an unbalanced amount of work, and can lead to just one chamber enlarging over time. This is stuff that most patients don't need to even know about because someone in their 70s has no practical risk of being impacted by it. Someone that plans on living for a really long time yet, though, should make sure their cardiologist is checking for that sort of thing with an echocardiogram every once in a while. Once again, the good news is that they can always install a fancier pacemaker.

Not trying to imply your husband's cardiologist doesn't know what they're doing or the leadless pacemaker isn't the best solution, I'm just sharing what I learned along the way that I thought was interesting or relevant.

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– blacksmith21 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I got stented almost a year ago. Was diagnosed and in surgery in 24 hours in the hospital in Arlington, VA. They didn’t fool w COVID vax or anything w me while I was in CVICU. Great care.

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– sgtnoodle 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, I was in the ICU for almost a week in one of the most far gone left cities possible, during the peak hospital fearmongering of 2020. Pre-vaccine though. They covid tested me in the ER and again a few days later out of hospital policy, but the first test was relevant diagnostic info. The whole ICU floor was covid equipped with loud HEPA filters, but there weren't any covid patients. No one seemed stressed out about covid. The ICU nurses were chill and didn't make me wear a mask except for when getting rolled to another floor for scans (and only when non ICU Karens balked about it). A dozen different doctors came in all the time and all insisted I didn't need a mask. Everyone was following normal ICU protocols and wearing masks to protect themselves. They were all just really concerned about keeping my heart beating and making me as comfortable as I could be with my chest, back and arms completely covered with adhesive pads (except for the weekend nurse that seemed to do the absolute minimum, and would stab me 3 or 4 times to find a vein and plug in equipment backwards). Overall B+ would recommend again, but only if you have health insurance. The doctors kept joking that I had the "million dollar workup", but after two surgeries they were literally only half joking...

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– blacksmith21 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

My experience was very similar, shorter duration. I have gold plated health insurance and was at a “boutique” hospital in Arlington VA - about the most woke City in the Country. I wore a surgical mask for gurney trans but that was it. I think it was 48k for a 36 hr hospital stay.

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– Cpleb 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Ask them is it myocarditis?

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– royaltea 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Hmmm, me too.

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– OkieBowhunter 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

That's odd! Wonder what it could be?!

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– bigsix 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

...and now the worlds cardiologists make bank.... round and round and round and round.

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– onedongerlonger 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Neighbor is a cardiologist as well and has noticed the trend. I've never talked politics with him, just neighborly chats and the occasional check-in on medical gossip for my own intel. He is a first generation Pakistani immigrant and came here the legal way. For what it's worth I get the sense he's only practicing traditional western medicine because our population is obsessed with the idea that it's the only medicine "that works". His statements to me reflect the mentality of most ayurvedic practitioners. Lucky for me when the SHTF he's going to be my primary ayurvedic doc whether he knows it yet or not!

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– ILoveIvermectin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

As intended

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– pockyblaster 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Same, I got my yearly check up pushed back because I said I didn't have the vaccine and they were handling a lot of Omicron cases.

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– Fandigo 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It wouldn't surprise me if most heart problems in the past 70 years have been directly tied to vaccines. This was just the worst one out of all of them. They blamed "fatty" foods in the 50s to the 90s, but of course, that was probably a complete lie. The back-to-back dual shots are lethal, when most vaccines were simply just one jab in a whole year.

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– swimkin 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I went into a cardiologist earlier this year. I had no time getting an appointment within a couple of weeks. When I got there asked if he was overwhelmed with patients at the time (but I mentioned COVID patients). He said no. But I went before a lot of young people were getting jabbed.

I have to go back again this year to monitor a condition. We'll see how backed up they are.

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– Misschelle 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Awful 😞🙏🏻

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– Saint_Duck 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Had my yearly cardio appointment last week. Was asked if I'd been vaxxed and said no. Was then asked if I planned on getting vaxxed and again answered no. There were no questions about reasons, simple acceptance. I like my Doctors.

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– Donaldiscool 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

SaFe AnD EfFeCTiVe!

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– Lenguado 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Dunno.... Maybe it is because too many folks drink Energy Drinks?!?!?!

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– SuckaFree 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

So...you get pushed to a later date to accommodate the idiotic?! I know they're people, too and deserve treatment, but damn.

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– sleepydude [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Actually, they asked if I could move it up to tomorrow before their normal hours. The nursed seemed pretty flustered about moving it too, like she knew she couldn't reschedule at all in the foreseeable future.

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– Mooseuamarch 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

2 people I know are both avid runners and also regularly do CrossFit. They are late 40s, early 50s. Never had heart issues before - both got vaccinated, both now being seen for hypertension.

Aside from that, I also know two men who have been diagnosed with Bells Palsy. Both vaccinated.

All of these people have been recently diagnosed. I feel like we’re going to be seeing a lot more of this closer to home. It’s one thing to hear about the side effects, but it’s another when suddenly every jabbed individual around you is experiencing something. I just hope these people can connect the dots.

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– callmedesdinova 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

My gynecologist did the same. Winter vagina is off the charts, apparently.

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