I live in the Bay Area California, the law dropped all mask requirements in office settings including for unvaccinated. However, my work is only allowing the vaccinated to unmask and unvaccinated are supposed to wear one "at all times". I don't but every once in awhile I get sneers and my manager tells me to put it on, I do, but I don't put it over my nose. I'm starting to get really pissed off with this discrimination. I know it's discrimination, they forced me to watch a discrimination video ironically. Anything I can do? Can I sue the company (it's a million dollar company). I know Bay Area is fully woke over vaccines and masks, so I have no idea if I would win or not.
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Yep. File complaint, get fired, find new job, sue, repeat. Keep all email traffic cc to personal email. Save everything.
The jabbed are more likely to get Covid than the unjabbed.
The simple solution is do not live in CA, especially the Bay area. Unless you are a commie homo, there is zero reason to live there.
Varies by location. Beaches, weather, mountains... lots of reasons it should be fought for instead of surrendered. Also there are whole towns that have given the finger to Sacramento, ...
Yeah, his situation sucks right now, but someone's gotta fix it, and we're already here.
im fighting brother, lots of unmasked all around now! I see it in the grocery stores atleast 60% of people are unmasked and unafraid!
They only unmasked because Newsolini said it was okay to unmask. They are still sheeple.
It's still a tech hub, and it's not just advertising and iPhones. There's financially lucrative opportunities to solve problems that meaningfully improve the quality of life for many people.
I live in Texas and just got the same email at my facility. Its probably another CMS nut grab on hospitals.
Are people still doing covid?I thought we were supporting Ukraine now?
I got two jobs. Both are currently 100% remote.
One is 1200 miles away. Never going to office there. Not with Biden has prices.
The other one is 20 minutes away. They reopened the office but they have a vax requirement to get a badge. I told them the second they require vac + office is the day I'm leaving.
Ditto! Hold the line! :-)
OP, I would suggest following the Common Law approach like I did against Siemens. I started it over masking, and added the vaxx in once that was announced. I never hired a lawyer, and never took them to court. Essentially my paperwork was enough of a threat to call their bluff, and they folded. I did not comply with one single mandate, and management left me alone for months. I even got a raise.
Here's my last post in the series, it has links to the others. u/Space_Monkey has started a live messaging platform for the Great Awakening named GAW.social. Here's his post about it.
I mention the space, because a number of Pedes in the same boat as you have approached me about doing what I did to fight lingering mandates (mostly masking) in their workplaces. We have a Common Law Studies room where I plan to do some coaching, and where myself and others are dropping nuggets about the Common Law. You might consider joining if you seriously want to fight your aggressors.
Any other interested Anons are welcome to check it out.
You could always try the obnoxiously fake fake mask from fakemaskworldwide.com. it's very obnoxious.
While looking for another job, of course.
Workers comp from the fall you took in the office. It’s related to the email about being dizzy and lightheaded while adhering to company policy.
You should never be forced to wear one! Have them prove why you have to wear one! The Bay area is full of draft dodgers and nut cases!
Million dollar company sounds like a small business.
Thats clear medical discrimination
I hear the same thing is happening at a small city in Washington State as well. Vaxxed = no mask, pure blood = wear a mask.
It's about making people feel the pain for not giving in.
Simple. Tell them to fuck off. If they fire you, collect unemployment, buy stonks. Never work again.
I would identify as vaccinated.
I was told today by someone at my old job that everyone there wears a blue sticker on their name badge if they are jabbed and boosted and they can take their masks off in the office now I they have a sticker(this is a healthcare facility/therapy office. I was shocked they are basically revealing each staff members jab status openly where patients can see and obviously trying to use social/peer pressure to get people to make it. They never mandated, so I was told, but that would be a pretty strong pressure. Made me livid. And yet sad for them all. I actually almost cried for my former friends and coworkers when he told me.
HIPPA laws perhaps. They are forcing you to display your medical history to your coworkers that know you don’t like wearing masks.
This is still the best legal advice I have see on how to handle mandate related work place issues. More related to vaxx mandate than mask but the rules still apply.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/-coffee-and-covid-monday-october-4e1?s=r
same here, just got the email today. prob a HCA facility like mine. Its total bullshit and Im down for joining any lawsuit for this. its discriminatory and it completely outs private medical choices. Obviously if im the only dipshit sitting in a mask, obvs i didnt get the clot shot..
Keep documentation. I’m not sure when the tide will turn, but it will and you should be ready for it.
It started turning, it's perhaps just not visible yet.
Suing is just going to make lawyers rich. A million dollars isn't very much money for a business.
The bay area isn't completely lost. 90% of people are just walking on eggshells to avoid getting yelled at. At least 50% of people are aware of the absurdity of it all at this point, and are keeping their mouth shut hoping it's almost over. Lately a lot of people are identifying as "libertarian," presumably because they're starting to realize that their team f'ed up.
If the upper management isn't completely unhinged, then they're probably just afraid of aggravating the loud minority of extreme COVID fanatics that have been yelling at them for the past two years. While you're silently stewing and approaching your boiling point, they've probably been yelled at numerous times by people that think the dirty antivaxxers should be put into concentration camps. They're probably just thinking, "oh great, if we put stickers on folks badges then 90% of employees can move on with life without me getting yelled at." You aren't even on their radar.
If you haven't ever had a direct conversation, go talk to the CEO or head of HR and tell them you are miserable and tired of feeling discriminated against, and that you're approaching your limit. Be polite and try not to yell. If they are receptive, then give them a few days to try and fix it. If you know other people with similar gripes, encourage them to reach out at the same time. If you suspect such people exist but you don't know them, email the head of the COVID policy with a sob story about how depressed and isolated you feel because of how dangerous COVID is and you're so bummed you can't vaccinate, and that you would appreciate them forwarding your contact info along to other "at risk" people so that you can support each other.
they make at least 60 million a year.
Sounds pretty lost to me. Kek.
Things are bad, but it's not as bad as people think it is. it's not time to give up.
Cut a hole in your mask so at least you can breathe normally
A lot of people I know are just buying blank vax cards and filling them in with someone else's real vax data, but their name.
Get a mask and cut out the inner lining. That’s what I do when I am forced to wear one.
Forced schmorsed.
I have yet to even touch a mask...even when "forced".
I admire you. I’ve been forced to wear them on airlines and doctors offices. How do you deal with these places?
I tell them the truth, that my PTSD will cause fight or flight and I don't know which it will be. Period. I ain't soy and it's obvious; the ol FAFO kicks in and their eyes show it.
I just boycotted my favorite restaurants and told them why...if they walked into my place of business in a mask, I'd shoot them. (Was held up 3x...2 guns, 1 knife...I will shoot you.)
(Plus I was infectious disease/virology/epidemiology trained PharmD, so they can't out fact me)
I then conduct my business.
I got a new doctor and I don't fly anymore.
I dumped my doc 3 weeks ago...too young! Got one my age.
Haven't flown since 9/11 due to groping.
I know of many police departments/first responders in the Bay and LA suing their Cities for their mandates. Unfortunately most of the attorneys are requiring 25k up front for filing the lawsuits. And they will be lucky to have a judge or jury side with them in this commie state. It's horrible. I'm so sorry you are being treated like that.
Also, need to fight against these 10 bills being voted on over the next 2 weeks in CA. AB1993, which is being voted on tomorrow, will require all CA employees to get the jab. https://unityprojectonline.com/take-action/
Handmade in the USA, breathable masks at https://getunmask.com/
This👆. Cut the liner out of mine but not invited back to the office yet
Thanks I've been looking for something like this. I use the stupid plastic surgical masks and refuse to fully mask because I won't be caught breathing microscopic plaastic fibers. I just nose the bullshit and breathe through my nose, but I need to get away from these plastic masks.
If you have to wear a mask look on Etsy. Many people make mask by hand. They are maid in different sizes, some have filters & with out filters. My daughter bought one that’s thin. I never bought one because my husband’s work sent home one that’s very thin with out a filter. It’s made out of scrub material. I still tuck it under as much as possible. I only wear it at the doctor.
Filter on Etsy: Handmade Location of shop. (I choose USA) pre Covid I shopped worldwide. A lot of handmade items are cheaper and better quality from Europe. If you haven’t shopped on Etsy look under the about section of the shop. Make sure they are real mom & pop small business. (If it matters to you) there’s a lot of shops from China & USA that are selling in bulk. I prefer to support small business.
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=mask
I won't wear a mask since April 2020 but it is fun to mock them with one. Ie make one out of the flimsiest saggiest gauze material you can find. Or a fishnet stocking. I had one like that that deliberately sagged below my chin when put on at the beginning of this shit show in massachusetts during the "2weeks". I had to buy groceries and they had door nazis at everyplace. I didn't trust anyone to pick out my produce and wait in a car. I saw another one like me who made a hand knit one that was so funny and open holed. Anyway if you are putting one on for a few seconds it may as well be mocking and safe for you to wear for breathing and to not breathe in the Chinese made chemicals or your own waste
I think the advice to attempt to handle it internally, keeping a journal of all that transpires before you go to the lawyers is the best route. the ones specializing in the covid lawsuits are probably going to be more prepared.
and start looking for additional income streams.
A lot of people I know are just buying blank vax cards and filling them in with someone else's real vax data, but their name.