Porn is a result of this degenerate society. Look at all of the most heinous and grievous sins of this country. Child trafficking, sex trafficking, human trafficking, etc., these all have a roll to play in pornography.
People involved who have become whistleblowers have made startling claims. IIRC, it was over 70% of porn stems from the aforementioned problems, not a lot of porn was consensual, even by a loose moral concept of consensual.
Supporting pornography is directly supporting the illegal trafficking industries. So to that end, God bless the anti-porn folks, regardless of who they work for, they are, at some level, doing the Lord's work. Especially Gab, God bless them, not that I agree with Gab on everything, in this, they are correct.
Find Jesus fren. Go to a conservative church that actually cares about people and has a bunch of activities. Hopefully you can find a mentor who will keep you accountable.
Hey man, been there to a lesser degree. Relationships yeah but between two of them it was legit all porn. Hard to get over.
Try using your brain instead to ween (pun intended) yourself off. Create the visual in your brain first. Helped me a lot.
After you get that under control remember sex is not like porn, it's meaningful with the right partner. You'll find someone but get your ass out there and look!
Yeah, women be crazy nowadays. Either that, or they're nasty. Then there's the crazy, nasty ones. Also, I like that when I want to eat a certain something, there isn't a discussion about it. I go out and get it. And then there's the peaceful, easy sleeps where I'm not wondering if she's unfaithful.
Yeah, this Christian propaganda bullshit needs to stop. If human trafficking ends porn, then so be it.
It's not going to. As long as men and even women desire boobs, there will always be porn. Now can we have a more honest sex trade and remove all the other aspects you mentioned? Yes. Actually we can.
Not that I want to cause anyone to stumble, however if you research Only Fans, you will see how quickly all your claims about lack of consent and such fall apart. Reddit is FULL of different subs where people choose to sell their bodies with consent. I will agree with you that any practice involving porn and such that violates consent needs to be abolished. But prohibition of porn? No. That is too far and that is un American.
This wave of sex craze is nothing new for the human race. In fact even in the more "modest fifties" people were still getting their freak on. And even as far back as the 1700's and beyond.
Finally and most importantly STOP LUMPING IN CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING WITH DEGENERACY. Degeneracy is people consenting to be degenerate. Anything else is rape. That's it. I chose to experiment on myself and I can tell you after hours of wasting time on pixels, at no point have I felt the need to go wanky spanky for children. Once again, the slippery slope fallacy proves itself fallacious. Child attraction is a sick affliction that while acts may be sexual in nature, they are not mere degeneracy. They are rape and rape is evil. Consenting adults getting freaky is not evil. Sinful? Absolutely. Always remember, there is forgiveness for sin. Evil on the other hand, well... there's a reason there are two separate words and not just one. Sin can lead to acts of evil. But it is not mutually exclusive.
EDIT: I am not trying to shill for Only Fans or Reddit, btw. Those are two fat sources to confirm that porn is not as evil as the above anon has chosen to believe. Sure, it can be, but self control begins and ends with you. If you need the government to ban access then you are probably better off mutilating your genitals.
I don't believe banning porn will fix such issues, instead will drive it worse as there would be no outlets. There will always be sexual deviants, but I believe there exists a percentage that are on the cusp of using visual means to play out their fantasies as opposed to those that actually go out and act on them.
One day I would like to do a deep dive to find out what the impacts of banning/legalizing prostitution and/or pornography have had on society both the positives and negatives and research how countries in the modern era fare compared to others, as I know there are plenty of places like Amsterdam's red light district, Australia, and so on where prostitution is legal.
What? Bad logic. People will still have porn that they've downloaded, they will get bored with it, and they will eventually start to break from the curse, realizing that porn is meaningless. Yes, there will always be sexual deviants, but giving them opportunities to get off on something like legalized porn will only advance their desires.
Let me put this in a simpler format. Looking at pornography creates a chemical reaction in your brain that is addictive. When you satisfy that chemical reaction, it only comes back stronger, this keeps repeating. That is why people addicted to porn don't watch the same porn or the same porn type over and over. It gets more and more disgusting in terms of content. Eventually they find themselves watching abuse porn, child porn, rape porn, family style porn, etc. This is all more and more disturbing things when you consider, how are those particular porns made, and even how the "consensual" porn is made, it's disgusting. It thrives on trafficking, and it creates a market for trafficking.
Dudes actually need to produce shit to be chemically viable. Your brain doesn’t produce testosterone unless it senses you overcoming adversity and being a warrior.
That’s how we are made. Wanna sit on ass and do nothing? Watch that testosterone vaporize.
People also say abortion isn't murder, but IDGAF what people say things are. If we don't take this golden opportunity to fix this country entirely, do you think we won't quickly slip back to where we are?
It promotes illegal activity, it thrives on it. Then it leads to blackmail to keep them clean from the very people who "profited" from it. There is no end to how dark of a road we will be led down if the porn industry isn't taken out.
And this is why you dumb fucks lost the previous culture war and rightly so. You hold self indulgence to the same standard as fucking murder. Jesus... has way more patience for you than I do.
If it is banned, it will also screw over Canada. Mindgeek is the porn industry consolidator and big money. If it bothers Trudeau and his paid handler Chrystia Freeland, I’m 1000% on board.
No YOU should restrict your porn consumption for your soul, and as a byproduct of your restriction, Canada’s choice of having a porn economy will suffer.
He is the god of nothing. He is also just one demon apart of one faction out of many many other entities.
The whole God v Satan narrative is one that was introduced to simplify and dumb down the mythology so it could be easier to inflict on the masses for the purposes of control. Jesus has no equal or antithesis as idiots of past had tried to make us believe. Satan is just another snake on the grass like all the rest.
The worst part of pornography is surprisingly not trafficking. Those are niche areas of the industry and a subsequent consequence that will exist regardless of whether pornography is mainstream or not.
Pornography is something that significantly impacts relationships. It impacts how we view women, how we look at ourselves, and it de-sensitizes us to the value that is provided in real relationships both sexual and platonic.
I do not think it is about banning it, but I think it is important that we set markers to educate children and adults on the inherent consequences of consuming such. I was an addict, I went through dozens of videos a day to find one that would satisfy my craving. I never thought what that was doing to my soul, to my ability to be sexually gratified by my own partners.
There is no justifying it, and that is coming from someone that had long defended it and gone against these people here pushing against it. It shouldn't be banned, but it should be recognized as a significant issue in society. It should be taboo, not glorified with services such as OnlyFans.
I wouldn't ban it. I would work hard to poke fun (pun sort-of intended) and destroy it in the social realm though. If you ban it, liberals will have something else to whine about. If you make it something to be ashamed of once again, it'll have a lot more impact on society than any ban.
One way to get the ball rolling is to organize former porn stars and have them spread their stories (many of these people are based). Let people know what it's like behind the scenes ... You'll learn quickly that it's not directors and "actors" behind all of the disgusting filth ... It's the producers. Destroy the producers and people won't waste a minute of their lives watching that shit.
Still wants to ban porn, though.
A noble goal that will never, ever work--if anything, it'll make things worse.
Just like Prohibition.
Porn is a result of this degenerate society. Look at all of the most heinous and grievous sins of this country. Child trafficking, sex trafficking, human trafficking, etc., these all have a roll to play in pornography.
People involved who have become whistleblowers have made startling claims. IIRC, it was over 70% of porn stems from the aforementioned problems, not a lot of porn was consensual, even by a loose moral concept of consensual.
Supporting pornography is directly supporting the illegal trafficking industries. So to that end, God bless the anti-porn folks, regardless of who they work for, they are, at some level, doing the Lord's work. Especially Gab, God bless them, not that I agree with Gab on everything, in this, they are correct.
People =/= Products
fightthenewdrug.org
I've been hooked on it since age 11 and it's fucked me up royally. Never had a relationship and age 30. So hard to stop. 😕 They got me good.
Find Jesus fren. Go to a conservative church that actually cares about people and has a bunch of activities. Hopefully you can find a mentor who will keep you accountable.
Hey man, been there to a lesser degree. Relationships yeah but between two of them it was legit all porn. Hard to get over.
Try using your brain instead to ween (pun intended) yourself off. Create the visual in your brain first. Helped me a lot.
After you get that under control remember sex is not like porn, it's meaningful with the right partner. You'll find someone but get your ass out there and look!
You're better off remaining single. You can do what you want, when you want, with whoever you want.
This is probably the worst advice ever given, I hope you're being sarcastic.
Yeah, women be crazy nowadays. Either that, or they're nasty. Then there's the crazy, nasty ones. Also, I like that when I want to eat a certain something, there isn't a discussion about it. I go out and get it. And then there's the peaceful, easy sleeps where I'm not wondering if she's unfaithful.
This will lead to comstockery.
Is that a problem though? (Supposing the definition I saw for comstockery is accurate)
Prohibition created the Mob, and the effects are felt a century later.
This may do worse.
Yeah, this Christian propaganda bullshit needs to stop. If human trafficking ends porn, then so be it.
It's not going to. As long as men and even women desire boobs, there will always be porn. Now can we have a more honest sex trade and remove all the other aspects you mentioned? Yes. Actually we can.
Not that I want to cause anyone to stumble, however if you research Only Fans, you will see how quickly all your claims about lack of consent and such fall apart. Reddit is FULL of different subs where people choose to sell their bodies with consent. I will agree with you that any practice involving porn and such that violates consent needs to be abolished. But prohibition of porn? No. That is too far and that is un American.
This wave of sex craze is nothing new for the human race. In fact even in the more "modest fifties" people were still getting their freak on. And even as far back as the 1700's and beyond.
Finally and most importantly STOP LUMPING IN CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING WITH DEGENERACY. Degeneracy is people consenting to be degenerate. Anything else is rape. That's it. I chose to experiment on myself and I can tell you after hours of wasting time on pixels, at no point have I felt the need to go wanky spanky for children. Once again, the slippery slope fallacy proves itself fallacious. Child attraction is a sick affliction that while acts may be sexual in nature, they are not mere degeneracy. They are rape and rape is evil. Consenting adults getting freaky is not evil. Sinful? Absolutely. Always remember, there is forgiveness for sin. Evil on the other hand, well... there's a reason there are two separate words and not just one. Sin can lead to acts of evil. But it is not mutually exclusive.
EDIT: I am not trying to shill for Only Fans or Reddit, btw. Those are two fat sources to confirm that porn is not as evil as the above anon has chosen to believe. Sure, it can be, but self control begins and ends with you. If you need the government to ban access then you are probably better off mutilating your genitals.
I don't believe banning porn will fix such issues, instead will drive it worse as there would be no outlets. There will always be sexual deviants, but I believe there exists a percentage that are on the cusp of using visual means to play out their fantasies as opposed to those that actually go out and act on them.
One day I would like to do a deep dive to find out what the impacts of banning/legalizing prostitution and/or pornography have had on society both the positives and negatives and research how countries in the modern era fare compared to others, as I know there are plenty of places like Amsterdam's red light district, Australia, and so on where prostitution is legal.
What? Bad logic. People will still have porn that they've downloaded, they will get bored with it, and they will eventually start to break from the curse, realizing that porn is meaningless. Yes, there will always be sexual deviants, but giving them opportunities to get off on something like legalized porn will only advance their desires.
Let me put this in a simpler format. Looking at pornography creates a chemical reaction in your brain that is addictive. When you satisfy that chemical reaction, it only comes back stronger, this keeps repeating. That is why people addicted to porn don't watch the same porn or the same porn type over and over. It gets more and more disgusting in terms of content. Eventually they find themselves watching abuse porn, child porn, rape porn, family style porn, etc. This is all more and more disturbing things when you consider, how are those particular porns made, and even how the "consensual" porn is made, it's disgusting. It thrives on trafficking, and it creates a market for trafficking.
This is the hill we need to die on.
Fightthenewdrug.org
Yep.
Dudes actually need to produce shit to be chemically viable. Your brain doesn’t produce testosterone unless it senses you overcoming adversity and being a warrior.
That’s how we are made. Wanna sit on ass and do nothing? Watch that testosterone vaporize.
Wanna work out, build shit, blow stuff up?
It literally skyrockets.
I seen it
Prohibition did not stop alcohol use.
It just created incredibly dark black markets.
Nothing wrong with being against evil things.
Actually, that’s what we are called to do.
11 years old? Dam
Da fuq?
I think he commented on the wrong line. Look at other comment area.
It becomes wrong, however if you conflate sin and evil. They are not the same.
Porn should be banned. And illegal. Evil deeds should be difficult to obtain. Like locks on doors, it keeps honest people honest.
People will say it's free expression, and thus it cannot be banned.
People also say abortion isn't murder, but IDGAF what people say things are. If we don't take this golden opportunity to fix this country entirely, do you think we won't quickly slip back to where we are?
It promotes illegal activity, it thrives on it. Then it leads to blackmail to keep them clean from the very people who "profited" from it. There is no end to how dark of a road we will be led down if the porn industry isn't taken out.
And this is why you dumb fucks lost the previous culture war and rightly so. You hold self indulgence to the same standard as fucking murder. Jesus... has way more patience for you than I do.
If it is banned, it will also screw over Canada. Mindgeek is the porn industry consolidator and big money. If it bothers Trudeau and his paid handler Chrystia Freeland, I’m 1000% on board.
https://www.mindgeek.com/
No YOU should restrict your porn consumption for your soul, and as a byproduct of your restriction, Canada’s choice of having a porn economy will suffer.
I'd have responded quicker but I'm typing with one hand.
As long as Satan is the God of this world, we will never stop his methods. Each one much reach one with the truth.
Satan was never God nor a god. He is a fallen angel, and is failure-bound.
For more info:
https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/victory-over-satan
Well shit. Something we actually agree on.
But you know who are gods? We are. As quoted in Psalms and later quoted by Jesus.
He is the god of nothing. He is also just one demon apart of one faction out of many many other entities.
The whole God v Satan narrative is one that was introduced to simplify and dumb down the mythology so it could be easier to inflict on the masses for the purposes of control. Jesus has no equal or antithesis as idiots of past had tried to make us believe. Satan is just another snake on the grass like all the rest.
The worst part of pornography is surprisingly not trafficking. Those are niche areas of the industry and a subsequent consequence that will exist regardless of whether pornography is mainstream or not.
Pornography is something that significantly impacts relationships. It impacts how we view women, how we look at ourselves, and it de-sensitizes us to the value that is provided in real relationships both sexual and platonic.
I do not think it is about banning it, but I think it is important that we set markers to educate children and adults on the inherent consequences of consuming such. I was an addict, I went through dozens of videos a day to find one that would satisfy my craving. I never thought what that was doing to my soul, to my ability to be sexually gratified by my own partners.
There is no justifying it, and that is coming from someone that had long defended it and gone against these people here pushing against it. It shouldn't be banned, but it should be recognized as a significant issue in society. It should be taboo, not glorified with services such as OnlyFans.
Porn is 100% created by sexual abuse.
I wouldn't ban it. I would work hard to poke fun (pun sort-of intended) and destroy it in the social realm though. If you ban it, liberals will have something else to whine about. If you make it something to be ashamed of once again, it'll have a lot more impact on society than any ban.
One way to get the ball rolling is to organize former porn stars and have them spread their stories (many of these people are based). Let people know what it's like behind the scenes ... You'll learn quickly that it's not directors and "actors" behind all of the disgusting filth ... It's the producers. Destroy the producers and people won't waste a minute of their lives watching that shit.