Kansas just had 3,000 cows die of “heat” on one lot. This is not normal but I’m just crazy for thinking that right? Well my husband who is a wonderful man but isn’t as invested as I am in finding the truth came home today and told me someone he works with, his family has a ranch in Texas. They got a letter the other day telling them to lay down their steer and get $1500 a head. They can not send to slaughter and will not be able to send any animals anywhere commercial. They can only sell private which is far more difficult for a big ranch like this one. Apparently the owner is drafting a nice “F you” letter to the FDA. My husband is getting closer and closer to seeing everything is true. I had really hoped it wasn’t true ranchers and farmers were being paid to destroy food but I knew deep down it was. Heaven help people to see the truth soon. I honestly believe the lot that lost 3000 to “heat” probably killed them and is probably being paid to lie. Could be wrong I guess.
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Sell beef direct to the people.
I found a local farmer and buy half a cow at a time because I’m trusting store food less and less. This guy told my husband their problem is the huge amount of steer they have is hard to move privately and I know lockers are hard to come by. When I pick up my cow I have to get it the day it’s ready because they need the space. I drive over an hour to get it. I put a deposit down, then when the cow gets sent to the butcher I pay for the rest of the cow. They when I pick up I pay for the processing. I know too many people who won’t do it that way because it’s not convenient, and you have to store a lot of food in addition to paying so much at once.
How does one go about finding a local farmer for half a cow? Is there a tried a true method? Any suggestions are appreciated.
Al Gore's Amazing Internet.
Do you have a community fair with a livestock auction? It may be just 4h/FFA kids auctioning, but talk to people around it. Chances are the dad driving dually with the 5th wheel trailer and 4 cows in it is a farmer.
Edit to add: Im not saying to necessarily buy in the auction as they are usually overpriced, but you can network there.
I’m in Kansas and I found a group through FB
Also interested in finding out.
i get mine from wild pastures because i am also trusting the stores less... plus its all grass fed beef and free range chickens so its healthier than store bought and it helps small family farmers!!
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Damn, half a cow? Mooooo 🐄🐄🐄🐄
I have 6 kids - 5 of them are boys and most teens. We aren’t raising any vegans or vegetarians in this house!
But..... but.... .the cow farts! Methane!! Global warming!!11! Reeeeeeeeee!
That's how we buy ours.
So the place that reported the 3,000 dead.... If you were to hypothesize using your dollar amount, at $1,500 per head, that's a sweet $4,500,000 payday. Not to mention the savings in feed among other things, going along with it makes FISCAL SENSE from a business standpoint. From a humanitarian standpoint, given our knowledge about food shortages as well as dirt famers getting bribed to destroy their crops, I'd say that what is happening here is nothing short of a planned famine and an act of war against the American people.
Oh, as an extra credit tidbit, it is being reported that diesel motor oil additives are no longer available and soon the supply will be used up. Not to mention DEF fluid is also drying up. That means what exactly? This affects not only our truckers but also our shipping industries and trains also. Soon trucks and ships and trains will go home and park after a trip and stay parked. Welcome to the great reset.
Carry On!!
Crazy! So many people don’t want to believe it could happen but it will be to our own detriment. For months I’ve been trying to find local suppliers of everything.
Same here! It is crazy that so many don't want to believe it, but they're just some of those who WILL get a rude awakening when that times actually comes (and I still believe it will).
It certainly could be. But it could be worse too. What if the food is being destroyed because the govt. knows it's infected with some kind of nasty super-germ shit? Perhaps the burning of processing plants is part of some kind decontamination program?
Nope. If this were even remotely close to that then we would be seeing recalls as well as songbirds on Twitter etc sounding the alarm. Instead we see a systematic fall of the dominoes. I fear that WW3 may be here but most people are not putting the pieces together. Still placated because there's food in the stores and still jobs to do, money to be made. In a way I wish your vision was true, it would mean that were still a nation that cares about everyone.
In the end nobody knows really. Too much fake news mixed with pointless talking points. All we can do is.....
Carry On!!
Thanks for the reply. I must point out that our two positions are not mutually exclusive. It could be both.
You bet.... It's truly a sad day indeed. In these times we cannot even trust what we see, everything is so artificial and contrived, is to hard to find any "facts".
Public discourse and open communications are very important BUT those that can afford to terraform public opinion are doing a great job keeping everyone upset and focused on purposeful misinformation as they steal all of our wealth and heritage.
Carry On!!
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Except they probably put more money into raising those cattle than 1500... they were expecting to get 2500 to 3500 a head. It's not like they are getting a huge payday
Excellent point, I have no clue as to what an investment like that would cost. If it's really that expensive, which nowadays wouldn't surprise me, then taking that deal at $1500 is a nogo. But if that's the case, why is it being offered in the first place?
Crazy times we live in eh??
Carry On!!
Is it too much to ask to see the letter?
Because that's kind of a big deal.
I’ll see if I can! I do not want to cause problems at work for my husband though.
Hmm. Obviously you black out any personal info, but they could send letter worded slightly differently to every person. Maybe sharing the letter is not a great idea.
But that is very interesting to me if the feds are paying ranchers to murder their animals.
The rancher is drafting a fuck you letter already so i don't think it will matter.
Get the letter or don’t post about it.
I absolutely adore my husband but it’s frustrating that he doesn’t yet see what I see. Uvalde is a big one too. I tell him they held back a cop, took his gun etc and he just listens to me but I can tell he isn’t convinced they are doing it on purpose. He works full time and has a pretty demanding job so I can complain that he won’t get invested but I do give him a hard time sometimes about making sure we are prepared for emergencies. We are responsible for 6 kids right now and he does agree. We are also religious and he believes in revelations etc. This really did kind of shock him to hear it from someone who isn’t a “conspiracy theorist” like his wife
$1,500 x 3000 cows = $4,500,000 To someone with no clue what cows would sell for, this seems like a good deal.
They sell for approx that price here at mkt
https://www.ams.usda.gov/mnreports/lsddcbs.pdf
Everyone tried to tell people that farmers were being paid to dump TONS and TONS of milk but no one would believe it, even with photo evidence of fields being covered in it. Maybe people will wake up now when it is animals being slaughtered and not allowed to be processed to be sold.
Each thing seems to wake up some people, but sadly still not enough.
If the letter is genuine let Project Veritas know.
Yes!
Agreed pic of letter would be great - possibly have husband tell friend to black out info personally so he knows that’s the copy being sent
I’ll see if I can, I know someone shared a screen shot from a rancher and no one believes it. They said “the FDA doesn’t tell them what to do it’s the usda” but my husband said he told him it was the fda.
Thank you Martha for sharing this. I really do hope you can get a copy of it, not that we doubt you... just so we can help get the word out more effectively.
I get people wanting to see the evidence, my friends are asking as well but my husband doesn’t feel comfortable asking. I’m disappointed because my mom doesn’t believe anything, she thinks I’m crazy but I don’t want any people I care about to be caught when or if there are food shortages. Or even just causing supply issues increasing costs. This is reminding me of a situation after the election. Sister in Az has a worker whose family are farmers. Found ballots ditched on their property, we got in touch with people who could get the ballots to people on our side. The farmer by that point had already given them to someone and we couldn’t find out who. Still don’t know if it was our side or the cheaters. We all wanted pictures and never got them. I want to see a photo of this letter farmers and ranchers keep getting!
now that’s interesting if true ! thank you and glad things awakening more for him sometimes it takes something unexpected for some and that’s all that matters (: keep us updated fren good luck
Future Doco in the making..
2000 Cows Kek
I wouldn't know where to start, but it would be great if there were a Patriot Run Independent resource to document these type of offers and also actions / demands to kill livestock as well as commodities.
The attack on resources to me seems bifurcated, Government with regulation and subsidy / Big Industry (ag pharma) with their science on Animal Health, Soil Treatment, genetics in both animal ans seed… and on and on…..
There doesn't seem to grassroots push to investigate this, just focused incident. Its probably a daunting scene from a Ariel view.
Sauce? Be nice to see the letter posted. He can black out personal info.
I’ll have him ask, I don’t know the family personally. My husband isn’t as pushy as I am though.
That's already been suggested.
and now it has been suggested again
May I make a suggestion? It would be great to see the letter that she mentioned.
I live in Texas and am currently checking out local farmers for beef and chicken. I am picking up an order tomorrow that we can test to see what we think. Then we will buy in bulk. Also have an acquaintance who raises beef who will sell. I just don’t have the room right now. If you’re trying to find local ranchers google “farmers markets near me”. I have found they usually have a rancher selling.
Can you obtain a copy of that letter for us to see?
I hope you can somehow get a pic of that letter to share so it can get out there.
Oh shit. What if. Also 1500 a head ain't shit.
My son in law has a ranch and we buy beef direct. They are set up to sell beef NFTs. You can purchase a steer today, they raise it, butcher and pack for you. Or you can sell the NFT if the price goes up.
I pay 2.40 a lb hang weight for the one I just place a deposit on, last cow I bought half and total was $800 for just the half- then I paid $340 to the locker for processing. So $1500 would be a good deal I think because they don’t have to transport or feed anymore.
I hate to say it, but I doubt you’re wrong
I'm amazed they 'died of heat on 1 lot'..... none the next lot, not the neighboring ranch, not other animals only cows we eat.
And I suppose all those food processing plants just exploded because of 'heat on 1 lot'.
I’ve got 11 goats. Hmmmm 11x1500 = makes me want more goats.
This makes sense.
No, I’m thinking you’re right.
Wild
There’s more to this story than we’re hearing about. The FDA can’t just say “lay down your steer, here’s money.” They always state a reason for what they want, even if it’s a bogus reason.
Even if you can’t see or get a copy of your husband’s coworker’s family’s letter, at least ask why the FDA sent it. Otherwise, it’s unproven fifth-hand information:
Family ➡️ Coworker ➡️ Husband ➡️ You ➡️ Me/Us
See: Netherlands.
"Reason": "nitrogen" 🙄
Absolutely, what my point is I’m not a rancher or farmer and I don’t hunt. I literally rely on these people for my food. Last week a friend shared a post from a rancher saying exactly the same thing “$1500 a head” from the FDA . My FB friends were all like “that’s BS it’s the USDA not FDA” etc. well then my husband comes home yesterday, who thinks I’m a bit paranoid, jokes with my kids about wearing a tin foil hat (all in good fun), has not really been motivated to help me prep (he does work very hard and I am a sahm). His superintendent was chatting with him and tells him this story that has pissed his dad off, the rancher. So my point is, the people wanting us to starve want to make us look like liars and crazy, no one has to believe me. No one has to believe the rancher who posted on FB. 3,000 cows died on one lot here in Kansas they say was because of heat…that’s 3,000 cows no one can eat. This rancher is planning a big F you to the fda but he is saying those cows will NOT wind up in a store. If this is true then store beef might become difficult to find like chicken. Or they are replacing it with impossible beef. I don’t trust the government, media, or medical community anymore. What can I trust in the grocery stores?
I don’t think we disagree. Like a lot of people here, I was just asking for something verifiable beyond a series of conversations. Why? The whole country—in fact, the whole world—has been gaslit for over two years. We still are, and I got real tired of being afraid for bullshit reasons. But some fear is useful. What to do?
I taught myself to deal with fear by applying carefully researched facts. If the facts don’t add up, i know my fear is likely irrational, so I keep an eye out and stay aware. If the facts do add up, my fear is likely well-grounded—and I take action.
I share your concerns about grocery stores. I believe it’s absolutely essential, if at all possible, to develop relationships with real farmers and get your food from them. That’s what my husband and I did—took action based on reason, not just because we felt like it.
As I said, the FDA doesn’t just say, “Kill your cattle. Here’s $$.” They always give a “reason.” I want to know more. If no information is available, no problem.
The 3000 cows is another matter. Not necessarily caused by FDA, maybe something else—but definitely a cause for concern. If you find out how it happened, please share it here. The MSM loves reporting disasters, but they never do follow-ups.
I used to trust, but verify. Now I verify before I trust!
I definitely understand, and would love to get a copy. Unfortunately this is just a “rumor” or hearsay and I don’t personally know the rancher. My point was this is opening my husbands eyes and I’ve heard this now from 2 different places. The 3000 cows on one lot from a heat burst didn’t make sense to me. I’m originally from Az and my moms best friend had a dairy farm when I was growing up, we were in the farm a lot playing with their kids. I worked on a cattle farm in High school cleaning the offices. I lived in a farming community until I was 18. Never did I see anything like that video where 3000 cows laid down in piles because of heat and we had some crazy heat in my town. So I’m theorizing that this particular lot was offered money. Just a theory and that was all. It really sucks we don’t have concrete evidence for everything but I am going to tell my husband to tell the super to reach out to project veritas at least.
Thanks for sharing about this from your perspective, and I truly appreciate the opportunity to exchange opinions with you. I think it’s essential to keep each other informed. Facts trump fear.
I think it’s great to share anything we believe is fact, or put out a call for help if we can’t verify what we hear about.
And yes, the 3000 cows incident looks really — ??? Even a non-farm girl like me knows something’s waaay off.
WWG1WGA!
I agree! I’m far from a farm girl, just grew up in the farming community I live in suburban Midwest middle class neighborhood wishing I had land, chickens, a cow, goats etc 😂 however I also get tired thinking about maintaining the land, garden, and animals. I have a small garden started now but I can’t have all the fruit trees I’d like because it’s not big enough and no chickens
without proof, this is just gossip. the animals that perished from heat in kansas was likely from a heat burst and has been sufficiently explained for now and is still being investigated. people are under stress and tensions are understandably high, but let's keep calm and wait for proof of these allegations before succumbing to or creating needless hysteria.
It’s definitely hearsay, no need to panic and I’m not panicking but I’m also not going to sit back and wait for lab grown meat to get forced on me or mRNA vaccines veggies. We need to support local ranchers and farmers and purchase directly. I found a local cattle farmer and purchase directly now. I can’t but from this farm because I’m not anywhere close.
I feel the same about supporting local. I hope you'll be able to get more info and let people know on this forum who the rancher is because their are people who would likely buy from them.
I bought this explanation the other day but now after reexamination, it doesn't fit.
If even just ONE animal survived then I'd say OK, what a freak event! But absolutely No survivors makes me think an "order to dispose" fits better.
Occam's Razor.
Further reading:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6951873/ - Impact of climate change on animal health and welfare
Lol great burst? That affected no other ranchers in the area and no other animals in great that was not abnormal?
Sure, Jan.
It did affect others but there are over 3 million head of cattle in Kansas and ranchers with years, even decades of experience feel that while it was unusual that it happened, it wasn't unheard of, or in extraordinary numbers. The cattle that died were extremely fattened up and just about to go to slaughter. There had been a normal for the area extreme weather event. I'm not saying anyone knows definitively yet and I certainly think we should be alert but it's best not to stir the pot until we know what happened given ALL of the facts.
Yes, facts like ranchers claiming FDA letters ordering destruction of cattle without taking them to slaughter. It's feeling like Uvalde, the more facts come out, the worse it looks.