Ask questions that will plant seeds of doubt. Example: why did the CEO of Pfizer not get vaccinated? Why don't the vaccine manufacturers refuse to disclose the contents in the vials? Why are the non-vaxxed seemingly healthier than the vaxxed? What is happening to all those soccer players?

Leave the questions open-ended and let them stew on them for a few days. Don't try to answer them for them.

I recommend Dr. Peter McCullough.

He is credentialed, knowledgeable, authoritative, yet plain-speaking and on our side. Listen to one or two of his recent presentations (search rumble, he might have a personal website too) and decide if his is the right voice.

I know where you're coming from. I have the same issue in my family. Good luck.

Ask God for help with using your eyes, ears and mouth differently.

Eddie Bravo was on Rogaine podcast. Alex Jones was yelling at Bravo. "You need to convince me of flat earth right now!"

Bravo: "I can't convince you. It is something you just arrive at. If you are online looking around, it will eventually click."

Leaving FE aside. Bravo brings up a good point. With any of these things, we can nudge, we can point, but we arrived here under our own beliefs. YOU CANNOT CONVINCE someone else that vaccines are bad.

You can support them, send them some things. Ask them to look at alt media or court documents.

YOU CANNOT FORCE THAT HORSE TO DRINK WATER. You can only lead it to the source.

Ask him why he thinks doing something that didn't work a fourth time would have better results than doing something that didn't work the third time?

People like them usually like Einstein, who actually did have a good quote when he made that remark of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That said, don't try to overwhelm him with far out sounding claims, stick to authoritative sources that simply conjecture that the shots don't work, were pushed without sufficient efficacy evidence for monetary gain, and might be dangerous -- leave the far out stuff for once they start to see a bit of the truth.

"If I fuck it up, I will not be able to live with myself."

This statement assumes your kids don't have the right to choose for themselves and that whatever they do is entirely your responsibility. If they choose not to heed your advice, it means they made a choice you don't agree with, but it doesn't mean you failed.

I have failed to convince my own extended family, and I have distanced myself as a result of their disrespect. I maintain an absolutely massive file on all this stuff, full of links, images, research, etc., but if I had to pick one article out of the lot, it would be this one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/

There are two small issues with this article. First is his mention of the “Omicron variant.” There is no diagnosis for this, and, in fact, legitimate illness fraudulently attributed to Omicron was due to other seasonal disease. No virus…not covid, not common cold, not flu, not Epstein-Barr, not herpes, etc., HAS EVER BEEN ISOLATED, or proven. How, then, are they “testing” for it? No lab or medical research facility will provide an answer to this question. I believe most cases of the variants were actually vaxx injuries.

The other issue with the article has to do with discussing viruses themselves. I don’t want to muddy the waters too much here, but there is growing evidence that the entire medical model has been corrupted by the “germ theory,” as opposed to the “terrain theory.” The terrain theory’s claim is that there is no disease associated with viruses, and, in fact, viruses only represent particles of DNA that are in the process of being excreted as a result of cellular damage from bacterial disease or exposure to toxins. There is big business associated with having the public (and doctors) subscribe to the germ theory.

Hope this helps.

I would chose a couple of short and to the point videos by experts - Dr Malone, Dr McCullagh, Judy Mikovits, etc. They are credible and they give evidence from within the field. It is not based upon conjecture and it is professional opinion - just like the other so called experts are offering. Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche just gave a huge warning with regards to the children's jabs. You can find lots of videos on Bitchute, Rumble, and Odyssey. If the question comes up as to why this cannot be found on Twitter or YouTube, be ready to very briefly explain about the censorship. Reassure your children that it is not their fault they did not know about any of this because it is deliberately being withheld from them and the medical community.

You are right in that you cannot overwhelm them with data. If they can be given just enough information by the experts to show that there is not the consensus that the medical industry and the media are trying to push out there, maybe it will give them pause enough to begin to question some things. I would start there and see if anything changes. Now that they are actually having symptoms, it may be easier to get them to listen. This is the point where many of the sheeple are right now. Many are having issues and they know in their gut that something is not right. But they are so used to being told what to think that it is hard for them to have their own critical thinking. As hard as it may be, we have to allow them to wake up on their own - especially when they have been vocal about resisting this information. You have to make it as easy as you can for them to be exposed to the truth. It can be a very difficult transition. If it means sitting there and biting your tongue, you must be ready to do that in order not to push them. Once the door is cracked open a little bit, you will know that there is hope you can help them. Whether they ever get to the point of being redpilled full on awake is less important than saving their lives.

You must resist the temptation to redpill them. You cannot do that for them. They must do it themselves. You can only be available, if and when they come to you. If they can get to the point of the oh shit moment, what have I done, then you need to be ready to help them, slowly, in order so that they may be open to some treatments to help mitigate the effects. Waking up people that have been asleep and hypnotized is tricky business for sure. I understand your concerns about giving them too much and having them just shut down. Let them come to you and resist the temptation of offering more than what they asked for. Good luck fren.

If you’re a believer in Christ Jesus and your faith is strong, ask for the Holy Spirit to put the words in your mouth. Don’t plan anything, just lean into your faith. I know, easier said than done but He will come through for you. I know from experience and I didn’t deserve His grace and mercy but He came through. He will do it for you as well. God bless fren

Only tip I can offer: go for the mainstreamiest of mainstream articles. The more liberally verifiable the better. If it looks remotely maga they will affiliate it with missinformation

I learned no matter how many research papers I show my father and my brother, there is absolutely no convincing them that the vaccines are bad news. My brother told me to "stop sending me this, I made up my mind", I finally gave up on both of them and moved on. I believe if I learned and researched all of this before they got vaccinated, I would've had better success at convincing them, but by the time I went heavy on the research, they were already doing their 2nd and 3rd shots. I think because they already committed to it, they have developed Stockholm syndrome, they know something is bad but it is just too late to change things, and might as well continue to believe everything that dr. science on TV tells them.

My father used to agree with me, that there are evil people on the planet, but I believe that the pandemic was just so traumatic to him that he now believes everything he is told.

If I had a chance again, I would show them a few of these:

Fauci saying getting natural infection is far better than vaccines: https://twitter.com/GoPoolie/status/1512218875039195137

Study: Pfizer Vaccine Increased Cancer Causing Protein in Human Nucleus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cppkVOG7BVQ https://www.mdpi.com/1467-3045/44/3/73/htm

Pfizers Own Data! 31% of Pfizer Trial Participants Experienced Death and/or Permanent Injury. https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

DoD COVID vaccine data from 2020-2021 shows the following conditions among military personnel: acute myocardial infarction (+456%), nervous system disease (+1,048%), malignant neoplasms of esophagus (+894%), multiple sclerosis (680%), Guillain-Barre (+551%), breast cancer (+487%): https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-department-of-defense-just-got?s=r

Great ADE Lecture: The COVID Vaccinated Produce Antibodies, But Their Killer T-Cell Response is Weak. -Dr. Dan Stock https://www.bitchute.com/video/cT1o1hYwld1O/

Who has the best blood? Vaccinated or Unvaccinated? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXj4Yk1bjF8

Scientists Find DNA From COVID-19 Matches a Sequence Patented by Moderna 3 Years Before Pandemic Began https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542309/Fresh-lab-leak-fears-study-finds-genetic-code-Covids-spike-protein-linked-Moderna-patent.html

New England journal of medicine wrote a good artical saying the vax did nothing against new variants and caused massive inflammation.

I would start with that,a very prestigious medical journal,and it says it's no good.

There are several really great ideas here to help you. I can't offer anything else but to go with your heart when talking with your kids. May God Bless you in this.

First, all you can really do is pray, and let God handle the rest.

For some good resources, here is a compilation of articles in peer-reviewed literature documenting adverse reactions after the vaccine: https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/vaccine-adverse-reaction-articles?s=r

Simple yet effective.

Lemme get this straight. You think the multi billion dollar pharmaceutical companies all conspired together to make you healthy with that shot…

I can’t post links but I can and am praying for all of you. Please God, wake those kids up. Please let them be able to handle this. In Jesus’ name I pray. Amen.

Mark Crispin Miller used to be highly regarded in lefty circles. https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/archive?sort=new

Whilst I'm not sure this fits exactly what you are looking for, I find this a very very powerful short film.

Remember the outright banning of Ivermectin, the USPS even stopped it coming in from overseas, and they tried to convince people that Joe Rogan was taking "horse dewormer" (even changed the coloration on his tweet to make him appear green when he got covid) you remember how hard they pushed to stop it right?

Well there's a zoom call meeting with a Brit Dr called Tess Laurie. She knows (as many other's did) that Ivermectin helps many in hospital beat Covid. In this zoom call she's on with a guy named Dr Andrew Hill.

The story is easy to follow, but it's the emotion and body language that is most telling in this. Tess Laurie knew it worked, Hill was tasked with rubbishing it as it was gaining traction as a theraputic and would mean the FDA couldn't EUA the shot!

For anyone who has lost loved one's because they were denied Ivermectin, watch this and prepare to be angry!

https://rumble.com/vwg569-a-letter-to-andrew-hill-dr-tess-lawrie-ivermectin-suppression-killed-millio.html

Good luck, you are trying your very best.

I'm all about heading to the fount of the spring. Will that tack work for you and your kids? You'll have to decide.

Arguing about whether to vax or not is an endless, circular clusterfork IMHO. As long as someone believes that viruses exist, then they will always have a reason to believe that getting vaxed is beneficial. Regardless of whatever evidence you present for risk, damage, adverse events, etc., there is still a perceived benefit, that in their minds, likely outweighs the risk. e.g. Kids say - "Nobody I know who got the vax died of Cooties-1984". You counter: "Nobody I know who did NOT get the vax died of Cooties-1984 either". Kids say - "Well, they're just lucky....we know somebody who died of Cooties that didn't get the jab". You say "Well I know somebody who got the jab and died of Cooties". They say, "Well they must have had other health problems, been really old, etc. etc. There's always a comeback.

In a nuthsell, this is what you're up against:

1. A century of massive censorship
2. A medical establishment that is lying about virtually everything
3. Blind trust in authority
4. A strong desire to "fit into" their mainstream social groups
5. Painful cognitive dissonance and feelings of shame/guilt

A formidable list to say the least, that frankly, no single document, book, individual can likely oppose, unless your kids have an inkling that something might be wrong. They won't budge on the efficacy, or lack thereof of vaxes until then. It's a losing fight.

However, there is another tack that has worked for me about 20% of the time with similarly like-minded people. You may think them's not good odds. But they're better than near zero percent with the above tack, would you agree?

And more importantly, in the past I've had to use dozens upon dozens of videos, articles, interviews, etc. that took weeks or months and the continual engagement of the people I've redpilled on viruses. Now, there is a 2 hour and 20 minute video that is of high quality production value that nicely sums up the simple fact that viruses don't exist.

And the absolute fact that viruses don't exist is an argument-ending stance that can cause a "glitch in their matrix" as it were, as they've likely never encountered such a suggestion. As such, they are only left with two options. The first is to completely dismiss such a suggestion. The second is to watch the 2:20 video, after which, while they may have questions like "but what about rabies or chicken pox, etc." If they're open and curious, I can help provide answers to these questions.

But first things first is for them to learn and understand what a complete sham virology is, and how things like Covid, AIDS, measles viruses etc. have never been proven to exist and have always been 100% theoretical only.

And I'll grant you, It's a heckuva red pill. But this tack will stop them in their tracks. They'll have a lot of questions, but it should cause them to, at a minimum, pause and reconsider things. I've shown this video to about 5 people since it came out two months ago. Three were blown away and started doing their own further research. One told me they're working on debunking/disproving what the people in the video claim (and I said "great, I've been looking for someone to disprove them for almost 3 years now with no success"). And one person has yet to get back to me so I don't know how they reacted to it. I feel like the success rate with this video is up from 20% to 60% now, and possibly better.

Anyway, this is my suggestion. I don't think you can succeed the other way. My girlfriend's mom has been an active and avid "anti-vaxxer" for 30 years now. She's tried to help hundreds, possibly thousands of people to understand the danger of vaxes over the years and admits it takes years upon years to win someone over. There are thousands of videos from Del Bigtree, Sherry Tenpenny, RFK Jr., Suzanne Humphries, etc. out there. All make clear the danger of vaxes, but this is rarely enough to overcome a person's FEAR OF VIRUSES. They're willing to take the risk no matter what.

But if viruses didn't even exist.....well now......that's a whole different ballgame. And I can assure you they don't. And it's not that we have "proven they don't exist". It is that THEY (scientists, medical establishment, etc.) have yet to prove that they do exist. Their "viral culturing" method is a complete joke. And their new "in silico" virtual reality virus discovery method is even a bigger joke. And the fact that there has never been a single successful scientific experiment demonstrating human-to-human transmission of disease, for a virus or bacteria, proves our point yet again. The medical establishment has produced precisely ZERO EVIDENCE of the existence of viruses, nor the transmission of a "germ" to cause a disease.

Anyway, this is the video that might give you a fighting chance. And there actually 5 more after it that get into specific diseases blamed on fake viruses if their curiosity is piqued. Happy to answer any questions you may have.

"The Viral Delusion" -> https://www.bitchute.com/video/Mun8dVQOVR7e/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9062939/

This single article is the most concise explanation of the loss of integrity of the US medical field. This calls out the magnitude of corruption and explains the mechanisms that allowed it to occur. It explains how this entire narrative has been poorly executed. This is a great place to start. This is just the beginning for them to start researching and begin to question the official narrative. If this doesn't get them started, it is going to be very tough to convince them, but there may be some other consolidated articles that can light the curiosity in them.

look up u/20gauge he has lots of vax info

edit- i think i spelled it wrong but he is here somewhere

This same exact post has been here before. I responded to it.

I would give up for now. I know I have been in the same position, and feel like if I just knew the right words to say, they would get it. The fact that they didn't see what I saw, made me feel like I had failed. The bottom line is, you didn't. But, going forward, you should not be subjected to their bs. If they want to complain about getting covid, tell them "I think the whole thing is a scam". Then refuse to engage in that type of conversation.

You have said it: They are indoctrinated. This means brainwashed, essentially. Unless you are a professional cult deprogrammer, you will probably make little headway. This is sad, tragic, even, but they may not be reachable. Their minds are frozen in lies. I think the best thing to do here is pray like crazy that the light can reach them, that God will reach them, somehow, and show them the light.

Introduce them to the Dark Horse Podcast with Dr. Bret Weinstein and his wife Dr. Heather Heying.

Former liberals (this will be very obvious), who are redpilling themselves. They bring an anti-vax and question-Covid perspective for people who would normally fancy themselves NPR listeners.

You can find them on YouTube and several other podcast platforms.

Here are a couple of samples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M1MmbjZzxw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY_2-v86xs4

If they are on Instagram I can share some accounts. Sometimes it’s easier to watch a 30 second video. Read a meme. Some accounts I follow are posting videos of what’s happening all over the world. Others are posting about general topic here but not as in depth. I follow a lawyer that post celebrities videos and gives the legal side based advice on the constitution. (He doesn’t look like a lawyer) but we should not judge by the outer appearance. Tic Tok is a good source. I’m not on Tic Tok

I have a question. Have you had covid? Or just your kids...?