Leaked text between Twitter CEO and Elon.....
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I cant think of an exchange that typifies more the contrast between the mindless ceo-babble thats like a more refined kamala word-salad, and the direct, unambiguous questions and statements by a genuine businessman.
If 90% of twitter is dead wood (censors, deepstate liason, fact-checkers, all zero-value providers), parag can take the stick-bundle with him on the way out the door for the last time.
90% of Twitter is dead wood, but those aren't the censors, liasons, fact-checkers, etc.
The true dead wood are the people who got hired because HR pushed them through because they have education and degrees, but are simply not good workers. Anyone who's worked, especially in tech, understands there are some people that just don't "get it." People who may not even be lazy, people who may not even be particularly dumb. But people who just don't "get it." They are simply incapable of producing.
This is something most people hate to hear. That not everyone can do every job, no matter how much training you provide them.
Don't get me wrong, the lazy and the dumb make up a good chunk of this dead wood, too.
These people end up doing nothing but paper pushing. Their roles shouldn't exist. But HR prevents them from being fired. Once you have an HR department, the only way to fire someone is with very clear, objective violations. "They're not producing" isn't enough. Anyone who's worked for a bigger company as management can relate. You hope that they start coming in late so you can get their three strikes.
Which sucks for everyone, because once you decide you need to start finding a way to fire them, you have to treat everyone the same, which means cracking down hardcore on everyone's time card. Which creates a hostile work environment.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could just fire people who aren't a good fit for the company? Wouldn't it be nice if candidates were pushed through in the first place because they have a genuine understanding of their field and capability to produce, rather than degrees and education?
This is the problem with every big company. And, since colleges are liberal breeding grounds, you end up with a company staffed full of liberals, which then leads to, well, everything we see. Because, even though they don't produce, they still have say within the company, especially in numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle
Its not just twitter, or all companies, but is a generalization thats correct when applied to essentially any grouping of people. Sporting teams, social groups, gamers, outdoor enthusiasts, you name it.
Not a problem with big companies in right-to-work states. They can fire anyone for any reason, good or bad, or for no reason at all. On the other hand, I've always worked in a right-to-work state, and my last employer was very lenient about people.
There was one poor girl who not only didn't see a difference between "sale" and "sell," but said there ought not to be a difference. It was 6 months before she was out the door.
But some people did disappear suddenly. I was working one night and saw an attorney loading his stuff into his car. He had been let go and had to remove his things immediately. So he was there one day and gone the next, and we had no clue there was a problem.
There was also another girl who was dragging her feet on a major project. The boss called her out in the middle of the day and had her escorted from the building. I had to clean up her computer afterwards and take over the project, and the girl was actually keeping a database on the company computer of her movie collection. Not that it matters, but she was a lesbian.
Thats not true. Am in PA and people still do the HR dance in every big company ive seen or been apart of. Its all about avoiding any lawsuits or negative image.
Every company has to tip toe or they could become the next sesame place here accused of racism.
Maybe your company, or even your state, is special. I just know how every company I've worked for in NC did things. A boss would just go up to someone and say we don't need you anymore. Gather your personal belongings and leave. In the case of one factory job, the tool box was examined by the boss, sealed, and then reexamined at the gate on the way out. No notice is required by either party. I left a job high and dry in the middle of a rush time.
On the other hand, I think PA is special. I went there to do genealogy work and found that the state archives were locked away in a windowless tower. They were accessible only by choosing a record from the catalog, submitting a request, and then waiting for the records priest to go fetch that one item. You couldn't browse anything at all, and it would have taken years to have done what I could have done in a day or two in NC archives. Philadelphia wouldn't even let me look at old deeds. Here in NC, the clerk points the way and says have at it. So I can look through original records from back in the 1700s.
Not true. They cannot fire someone for being a protected class (sex, race, disability, etc.)
Which means that they risk a lawsuit if they fire someone for a flaky reason or for no reason at all. The person fired will claim that they were fired because they are a protected class, which puts the employer in a position where they essentially have to prove why they were actually fired. Courts are always subjective, even if that's not how the law is suppose to work.
That's why big companies have HR and that's why HR makes it so difficult to fire someone.
I took law classes that taught about this. Right to work in NC definitely means exactly what I said.
Those law classes must have skipped over the Civil Rights Act of 1964, where the federal government, with the blessing of the Supreme Court (which is bullshit, by the way), dictates that employers may not discriminate based on race, color, religion, sex, or national origin.
No matter what your state law says, if you fire someone for these reasons, you can easily get in hot water legally.
And, because of how flaky this shit is, it's very easy for an employee to "prove" discrimination in court, even if you didn't even think about their race, color, religion, sex, or national origin when you chose to fire them. So HR departments, in order to protect the company, typically make it very hard to fire someone.
It was business law classes. Of course, it would be stupid to fire someone and tell it's because they're black. But you can choose other reasons or just not give a reason. That's perfectly legal with at-will employment.
Are you even reading?
It is legal to fire someone for any reason or not reason at all. However, that doesn't stop the former employee from lying and saying that you fired them because they were black.
To win a civil rights act case, you don't need a quote of them explicitly saying you were fired because you were black. You can prove to the court with more circumstantial evidence.
If you were the only black person in the department and you can prove you were performing equally well as your other coworkers, for example. If you can then cite a racist joke your superior made that you overheard, you have an even stronger case.
You may have actually been fired because you weren't performing well enough, but if you can conjure numbers that show you were, even though they don't paint the whole picture, you can make a compelling case it was because you were black.
This is literally why HR departments are so prevalent, even in at-will states. They're there to protect the company.
I understand the law. You also seem to understand the law (although you clearly forgot about the Civil Rights Act until I reminded you). But you're not understanding people or courts or how they all act.
Hear, hear 👏
Managerial Elite theory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehhWHy9pyW8
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Don't know how real this is but........
Def just a meme, that's a hilarious reply.
Ask anyone who has worked with Elon - he is unrelenting, a total workaholic.
Anyone at twitter not prepared to burn the midnight oil is on notice, assuming the DoJ don't block the sale on National Security grounds that is.
I’d love to see the scene from Office Space with Elons face on the Bobs and a big Twitter logo in the background. “What would you say it is, you do here?”
Great meme potential, someone with shop skills please make this happen
translation get me the list of your favorite employees so that I can fire them.
When my old employees would talk that shit, that's how I used to bypass their bullshit to remind them what their purpose for being in my presence was.
Hahaha, read between the lines. A, your overpaid. B, you're useless. C, I'm firing you first thing. D, is for dumbass. Don't let the door hit you on your way out. KEK!!!!!!
You're fired, Parag!
Someone's about to get fired.
Lefty's don't get this; I am like Elon at work because it's fuckin' work. Don't waste my time with drivel as we have metrics and deadlines and I expect a direct answer to my question, bullet points in an email conveying information I need to know about, and not some cunt waffling. I hate these fuckin' people hiding behind their 'feelz' shield
👍👌Yip, Work is work and play is play...
That statement sounds like an owner ready to fire an employee 🤣🤣🍿🤣
Parag cannot even write intelligible English:
It should be either:
" I'd like for you to provide your perspective on the level of current (?) internal distraction right now and how it's hurting our ability to work"
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or
" I'd like for you to provide your perspective on the level of internal distraction, right now, and how it's hurting our ability to get work done".
Total nutcase. No wonder Twitter doesn't get the right things done and is in total disarray. You really have to guess what he means to convey ....what, when, where basic logical statements to get things done.
Elon, this chaotic situation is making it hard for our employees to focus on their work.
Any suggestions on how to address that?
Encourage them to update their resume.
Smug is the new fall color.
So anyways... I started blasting
Kek!
Word Salad makes you sound like an idiot.
I had an opportunity several years ago to tour a new start-up. The company was doing very well. The offices occupied several floors of the building and it was like a combination playground/daycare in there. It looked like a fun place to work if you're of that mindset but for all that space and all the games/ freebies/ sleep pods, I wondered just how much work was getting done.
I think governments wish they could carry that much deadwood.
I know it can be hard to believe but that extra stuff is really helpful for some tech startups. I was in one in the late 90s that eventually was bought by Cisco. We had a beer fridge with the good stuff, games, TVs, and snacks. People used that stuff if they burned out on what they were working on. Think programmers trying to figure something out and getting writer's block. They would go have a beer and play a game or watch tv, and most of the time the idea would pop in their head and they would go back and code it. Many of these employees are workaholics and stay until whatever they are working on is finished or at least fleshed out. They walk away for a break for either the reason I mentioned, or maybe they just need to clear their mind to start on a new code section or something.
Years ago when I was doing network security at the Pentagon my co-worker and I were responsible for pen-testing 3 military networks there. We would usually do one each quarter, and it was a full-on attack - getting root/administrator, remote access, the whole thing. There were many times where one of us burned out or were struggling on a particular hack, and we would both stop to make sure we didn't make any stupid mistakes. When we stopped we would get our LtCol and our LT to join us in a 4-way game of hearts on the network. They knew we needed it so they stopped and played until one of us was ready to get back to the assessment. It worked every time and usually only took 15 or 20 minutes. We were very thankful they would indulge us with that.
Oldie, but goodie :)
Elon's comment is from an exec who is sending a very clear signal. It's not about feelings, it's about work.