That's why you scrap the entire sandwich and start with stellar ingredients. You don't continue to add condiments expecting it to not taste like shit because it will. Asinine logic....
Theodore Roosevelt created the bull moose party which split the republican vote and resulted in the election of Woodrow Wilson, the socialist Democrat who was responsible for the creation of the Federal Reserve, and the mess we’re in today.
Splitting the party vote is a terrible idea. I wish it wasn’t the case but it’s true.
I was thinking the same thing. We split the party, lose another election, take our money with us. Maybe we can put the RINOs out of business. Worth the pain I think. Another thing to consider, we might pull in some moderate Democrats that have had it with their party also. There might be more of them than we realize that are also tired of business as usual.
No, Trump said previously that he's NOT doing that as it would further divide. Instead, he declared his intention to remold the rep party around himself.
Great idea. Break the back of the TWO dominant parties. Nothing is going to change unless a party OF THE PEOPLE is formed. Trump is in a perfect position to do this with MAGA.
Seriously don't see that happening for multiple reasons. Back in 1992 Ross Perot ran as an independent. He was pretty popular, more popular than Bush 41 IMO, but it split the Republican vote and ala Bill Clinton. There are people out there that will vote Republican because they always have and always will. Same with a lot of Democrat voters. They vote party, not so much the candidate.
When we all thought Trump would run prior to 2016 my biggest concern was him running independent. Because I don't think he would have won. But fortunately, he believes the Republican party can be saved, with substantial cleansing of course.
They tried to push Trump into a third party to keep the RINOs from looking bad teaming up with the Demons against him, but that was years ago. Now is a better time. However that wont do much with the open cheating on public display these last few elections.
It would make things worse...Say goodbye to your country faster than you can ever expect and say hello to communist mass burial sites.
Because you now guarantee that every single election will end up with a Demoncrat winner. Hell, they can now run dems in races where they never bothered because it wasn't previous winnable.
Split the conservative vote
Voter fraud is not addressed (not that dems will need to cheat anymore since we will be splitting the conservative vote...they could actually win legitimately).
Nonstarter...
I'm not saying that our two-party system is good. It sucks and I would love to see a third party. But starting a third party now would be a stupid idea.
I think it is a good possibility. The RINOs are hell bent on fixing the 2024 nomination process to shut him out. He just might leave them sitting on the curb with no funds or power. The Repubs are just as replusive as the Dems.
If he can get enough MAGA people in office with these mid-terms he has a shot.
he needs to unify everybody into one party instead. anyone who is pro freedom, pro living, anti globalist into one party despite left or right and then we can have a true us vs them. this should be world wide as well not just america.
That wouldn’t solve anything and would make things worse.
Agreed.
I dunno it's kinda hard to mess up a turd sandwich any more than it already is.
exactly.
Just spit my beer out all over the bar. Excellent statement. Factually to the point.
That's why you scrap the entire sandwich and start with stellar ingredients. You don't continue to add condiments expecting it to not taste like shit because it will. Asinine logic....
Couldn't get worse... Could end the RINO party though
It will simply decide the Republican Party into two camps. RINOs and MAGAs. Then the Dems win
They win anyway
A new party would be akin to changing jerseys in an already rigged game. Until the fraud is addressed and rectified, the rest is meaningless.
Theodore Roosevelt created the bull moose party which split the republican vote and resulted in the election of Woodrow Wilson, the socialist Democrat who was responsible for the creation of the Federal Reserve, and the mess we’re in today.
Splitting the party vote is a terrible idea. I wish it wasn’t the case but it’s true.
There will be a lot of shill support for a new "Patriot" party.
They're trying to frag our foxhole.
It's funny, that crossed my mind as well...
I'm down.
then both the dems and the repub would be cheating harder
No, that won't happen. It would only split conservative votes and ensure the Democrats would win every election.
Starting a new political party would be idiocy.
How much worse can it get? I live in AZ. We have NOTHING to lose by trying a new party.
We need something to rally around and support. Even normies could do this, even if they do it largely in secret to start with.
I was thinking the same thing. We split the party, lose another election, take our money with us. Maybe we can put the RINOs out of business. Worth the pain I think. Another thing to consider, we might pull in some moderate Democrats that have had it with their party also. There might be more of them than we realize that are also tired of business as usual.
No, Trump said previously that he's NOT doing that as it would further divide. Instead, he declared his intention to remold the rep party around himself.
Great idea. Break the back of the TWO dominant parties. Nothing is going to change unless a party OF THE PEOPLE is formed. Trump is in a perfect position to do this with MAGA.
Seriously don't see that happening for multiple reasons. Back in 1992 Ross Perot ran as an independent. He was pretty popular, more popular than Bush 41 IMO, but it split the Republican vote and ala Bill Clinton. There are people out there that will vote Republican because they always have and always will. Same with a lot of Democrat voters. They vote party, not so much the candidate.
When we all thought Trump would run prior to 2016 my biggest concern was him running independent. Because I don't think he would have won. But fortunately, he believes the Republican party can be saved, with substantial cleansing of course.
Not happening, fren. Two against one is bad odds.
They tried to push Trump into a third party to keep the RINOs from looking bad teaming up with the Demons against him, but that was years ago. Now is a better time. However that wont do much with the open cheating on public display these last few elections.
You must have read my earlier comment. "He will announce intentions to run,...but not as a republican"
It would make things worse...Say goodbye to your country faster than you can ever expect and say hello to communist mass burial sites.
Because you now guarantee that every single election will end up with a Demoncrat winner. Hell, they can now run dems in races where they never bothered because it wasn't previous winnable.
Nonstarter...
I'm not saying that our two-party system is good. It sucks and I would love to see a third party. But starting a third party now would be a stupid idea.
I had just posted that thought in another thread.
I think it is a good possibility. The RINOs are hell bent on fixing the 2024 nomination process to shut him out. He just might leave them sitting on the curb with no funds or power. The Repubs are just as replusive as the Dems.
If he can get enough MAGA people in office with these mid-terms he has a shot.
I want to see the formation of the Patriot Party.
he needs to unify everybody into one party instead. anyone who is pro freedom, pro living, anti globalist into one party despite left or right and then we can have a true us vs them. this should be world wide as well not just america.