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Jesus Christ is the savior of mankind. The only power available to defeat evil is from God. To God be the glory!
But isn't Christ within?
Therefore..... It's US possessed by the 'holy spirit' that affects change. Nothing more.
God helps those who help themselves.
Where's that in the bible?
It's not... Despite most thinking it is...
Yet, it's pretty accurate. Ppl need to understand the power to affect change is WITHIN.
'the kingdom of heaven within'
And that also applies to hell ..
Not only is it not in the Bible (Ben Franklin quoted it in Poor Richard's Almanac though), but it's the exact opposite of what the Bible axtually teaches, which is that God helps those who CANNOT help themselves.
God helping those who cannot help themselves and God helping those who help themselves are NOT mutually exclusive options.
And the real point of the statement is two-fold. One, there are those who could help themselves but choose not to, and two, that God indeed responds to us as much as we respond to God.
Knock, and the door will be opened ≠ Sit back, wait, don't do anything, and the door will be opened.
This entire section teaching from Jesus is about being proactive, AND that God is responsive.
Where are God's hands? In your hands. Where is God's voice? In your voice. Be the instrument God needs.
Luke 17:20-21 ESV Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
Yup.
It's within. The only way out, is in.
It's not a temple, a dogma, a person or anything.
It's the Unknowable, unnameable nothingness that the creator of all dwells.
The kingdom of God is the critical thinking that allows us to see past the lies. It's more than this but an example of how it's unseen yet can be observed. The love that allows us to forgive others or the strength to avoid the things that harm us but we desire most. The kingdom of God is displayed by what we would view as admirable behavior.
Get a haircut, hippie!
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That is 100% a cabalic axiom if you know anything about the New Testament and esotericism.
Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
<facepalm>
You missed the whole point.
the scripture is a clarification and an exhortation that GOD and Heaven RESPONDS. God is not only the Creator. He is also responsive. Thus, YOU knock, HE opens the door.
So, you want the door open? Do you sit and wait for it to open? Or do you (help yourself/take action/take steps to bring about the result you want)?
That is certainly the positive interpretation of that phrase, but is that how it has been sold to the modern world?
That's certainly not the interpretation of most that utter it in my experience.
Hmmm. How else can it really be interpreted.
Saying "God doesn't exist so you have to do it yourself" or "God's not going to help, so you have to do it yourself" would be one thing, but
"Heaven helps those who helps themselves" is simply that helping yourself - aka "taking (some) responsibility for your situation is virtuous" - is good and valuable.
A bit like, get off your ass, and don't wait around being a victim.
I guess my observations may well be overshadowed by my own prejudices in regards to this, but referring to this as a cabalic axion strikes me as .... strange.
In what sense does your experience tell you that most people use this expression?
It’s origin is from the pre-Christian Greeks, was famously repeated centuries later by the most obvious cabalic infiltrator of the founding fathers, and in popular media is oft repeated by some of the most ungodly people in the modern era to reinforce their selfish choices.
The idea goes against much of the Gospel as Jesus often helped those that were the least deserving by the estimate of his disciples and the world.
https://fwsumc.org/the-bible-doesnt-say-that-god-helps-those-who-help-themselves/
https://nationsu.edu/unbiblical-statements-christians-believe-god-helps-those-who-help-themselves/
https://www.adamhamilton.com/blog/why-god-helps-those-who-help-themselves/
Thanks. I believe I understand the theological angle that you approach this from, although I do not agree with it.
"The idea goes against much of the Gospel" - interpretation.
"Jesus often helped those that were the least deserving"... Hmmm. I see. Do you somehow then interpret this expression to mean, "God will not help you if you are not deserving"?
I'm not assuming that you do, but such a view about God helping or not helping on the basis of who or not is "deserving" does not jive at all with my theological perspective, and I personally think it is decidedly Old Testament level mentality, along with the idea that people find themselves in Hell because God is punishing them.
(how God appeared to and interacted with Israel, for example, was predicated on their capacity to relate with God. They could NOT relate with God as the loving compassionate Father. That capacity was unlocked by Jesus. Much like a child's ability to relate to and understand his parent depends on the level of maturity. People very commonly experience this when they have their own children: only then do they grasp certain things about the reality of who their own parents are or were.)
Either way, rather than a theological justification for how you interpret the expression and why you dislike or disapprove of this expression, I'm curious about in what sense your experience tells you that most people use this expression?
It seems like you almost understand the statement as a criticism or judgment: "If you do not help yourself, God will never help you"
I am curious, anyway.
God put us on this earth to DO things.
I will not for a moment entertain the idea that this simple fact of life is somehow a "Cabalic axiom".
In every instance I have ever seen it uttered its been to reinforce the satanic "service to self over all others" mindset of the material world.
I have to wonder if there isn't a reason why you are attracted to that, and you see that "in every instance"...
Often one sees what one resonates with, even if the connection is a negative resonance (aka negative attraction).
I have never once perceived others to use this expression in that way. I have always experienced it as an affirmation that God will bless those who take the initiative and do not simply play the victim or wallow in self-pity. Always as such an affirmation.
OK, now who would down vote, this statement?
Glad you said this, you beat me to it.
Have to admit it sounds a bit blasphemous.
Think mirror, time to reflect on the fact that we are made in His image
Thank you. What is a head without a body? Work together!
While we are made in Father's image. I do not think Q was referring to Christ. I think Q was referring to us. Q also refers to the Military as saviors in post 114. The post says, "US Military = savior of mankind."
I don't think it is right to say we are the saviors of mankind. The only savior of mankind is Jesus Christ and his Father.
Exactly...
-in the image -kingdom of heaven is within -is it not written that you are ALL god's -you will do even greater things than I
Etc etc etc...
Psalm 82:6-7
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
And Jesus also requested himself with a fallen El / human.
Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good.
Jesus himself stated he himself IS NOT GOOD.
Just like us, he was fallen. He had to be to live on this plane.
Not so.
He was fully human and fully divine.
John 8:58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 10:24-38
24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Yup. This means that HUMANS are the fallen Elohim (angels)
And it's up to each one of us individually to work out that negative karma inside, to reclaim our rightful place dwelling in the right hand of glory.
We are born sinners, so this would make sense? I've thought this for some time... perhaps we are decended from the fallen ones?
It's not about that.
The "fallen angels" is a symbolic metaphor for humankind.
Sin just means to deviate from a straight or narrow path.. (ie, Sine wave, symbol sin).
We all deviate, because it's impossible in the human flesh.
The closer we get to the straight path, the closer we are to the creator. The more enlightened we become.
There are no 'Angels' any more than there are humans.
Angel. Angle.
To deviate or vector from the original path.
This is why GEOTUS calls HRC 'the crooked one' which is a direct link to 'Saturn/Cronus/Satan's
Also why he said well get our stolen time back... Because Saturn is crobus the time keeper.
GEOTUS was calling her Satan. And the nwo worships Satan. It's all symbolic.
Q have us the spark, we just need to dump fuel on the fire to realize our true power. We need to stop giving away our power to tptb, this includes the church. All things that are parasitic to our personal development, health and well being.
Luke 17:20-21 ESV Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.”
We need to DO this! Even for results which will not occur in our own lifetimes.
Now that's funny.
We are winning. Do not trust what you read.
^ deserves a highlight too IMO after a Georgia and AZ
Arrests and elections are irrelevant at this stage.
What we're winning is the trust/mindshare battle.
If we had won AZ and GA does it make the election fraud argument harder or easier? White hats suppressed the fraud just enough to give us the House because that's all that's needed for the next stage.
We need a leader in the house who is fighting for the people.
Winning hearts and minds wins the war.
White hats and military are working behind the scenes. We are watching a movie.
So... what's the point of this post. Can you explain a bit? Why the highlighted parts? I could post any random Q drop and highlight some shit too, but what for?
it resonates because this drop came before clown world and don't forget about quantum.gov and everything - up is down left is right (that's clown world, our reality) boom, Q. Hopefully this part happens soon.
We are not saviors we are helpers- possibly the right term.
Have to admit, doesn’t it sound a bit blasphemous to say “You are the saviors of mankind”? When Jesus is the savior of mankind.
Peru is doing it. 👏 so jelly
When the fuck is it coming?!
Up is down...
https://youtu.be/sNj8mJq65i4
Dude. It's definitely felt like "up us down" for awhile haha.
According to Q..
-We are the saviors
-POTUS is the savior
-Mil are the saviors
Q's point, collectively, the world will save itself from hell.
NCSWIC 💥
It's all being exposed. We know and they know we know. Have faith