Donald Trump is named a few times in this document, but only once with anything nefarious: page 147. Flirts with the victim. But then page 1918 says it's not true, he never has sex, never flirted, and never seen with Jeffrey.
Reddit it going wild because Trump's name is in the documents. It is: it basically clears him of any wrongdoing. But not surprisingly the Reddit post does not name these pages when stating which pages his name comes up. Psyop.
She says Trump didn't have sex with her, didn't flirt with her, and she never saw him anywhere (edit: correction. She didn't see him in the locations described and she doesn't remember seeing Trump and Epstein together).
Pretty laughable to be using these docs as a "lol we got Trump now" because he's not involved with this per the documents!!
If people think of the larger picture, there is a reason why Trump is pictured with Epstein and in these court docs. How else would you get raging TDS leftists to look at these documents or even care about them if Trump wasn't "in" them? Also, proves he didn't do anything... but alas, now the raging leftists are looking at the documents and are reading the material. That's how you get the other side to play the game. Bait.
Reddit it going wild because Trump's name is in the documents...
They've been cheerleading 45's name drop in the logs since the logs came out years ago. All the proof you need that reddit is actually brain dead and/or driven by bots.
Ol Alan's name is in this flight log many, many times... Why did Hannity have him on his show? Mayor Rudy said he gave Hannity a hard drive copy of Hunters laptop top in 2019. Why did Hannity Barry it???
Alan Derschowitz was Epstein's defense attorney, so he'd have a business purpose for that many trips. Not saying he's innocent, just that he'd have a cover story.
Recently Guiffre said she may have "misremembered" Dershowitz's involvement in sexual activity with her and others. She could be telling the truth, or it could mean a deal was made.
The attorney-client privilege protects most communications between clients and their lawyers. But, according to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to his/her attorney isn't privileged if the client made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. OR in the process of committing a crime or fraud.
Is AD guilty? Maybe, maybe not. Does AD being on the flight log prove anything? Not necessarily but it certainly doesn't look good. But what it tells us is AD probably knows quite a bit.
does anyone else think it's odd that Virginia Guiffre decided to file this lawsuit after all these years? She was in all those pictures with them smiling and laughing, and worked with them for years. Why now?
I guess it takes years to understand what was done to you was wrong, there is deep shame that you deny, A minor who seems to agree to have sex does not change the fact that it was a crime, that she was taken advantage of, and all the "perks" and "gifts" were just prostitution. Consent does not matter when an adult takes advantage of a young person. Maybe she saw an advantage , it does not matter, does it? It was still a crime. Turn the genders around. A sexy woman of legal age can walk into a room of 15 year old boys, and most likely they would lunge to take a crack at her, be overjoyed, in some cases. It's still a crime and the onus would be on the adult.
No, I fully agree with you on that. It's just I can't remember why, but I've watched a few interviews with her and something struck me as opportunistic about her. Not saying that those bastards didn't deserve to be hung, they definitely do. So ultimately her trial brought this out to light which is amazing. I just think the perks may have stopped after sometime and now she realizes she's a victim.
A lot of women (and some men too) learn to fake smile and act happy... but there are parts of the old british empire where buying and selling minors has been traditionally "business as usual" for a very long time ..
Harvey Weinstein's consensual "victims" have entered the chat. It truly is a complex issue as to what constitutes consent and what is legal or illegal. Add the difficulty of litigating with todays standards versus those of the past.
I am now fascinated how Hollywood ignores when it is inconvenient to their "side".
She was a troubled “youth”. Issues at home and Ghislaine groomed. Story old as ages.
Young naive, bad home, looking for a way out…. Some older lady pretends to take a liking to you. Next thing you know you’re in compromising situations and don’t know where to go. Not everyone is street saavy. Pressuring a young girl to be a hand job masseuse when she needs a support system or resources is a dirtbag move.
My guess: She was being paid to stay silent. At some point, the gravy train was cut off so she spilled. Money flow could have stopped when Epstein was arrested or some time thereabout. Does anybody know what VG has done to make a living, pay bills, etc? Has it ever been mentioned of her having an occupation? If not, she was on a payroll that stopped sending out hush money so she grabbed the megaphone.
I don't know much about her, but I know that she escaped from Epstein by "disappearing" during a layover in Australia on her way to Asia. She'd been living in hiding in Australia until she came out. She is married and has kids (I think 3)? She said she came out because she decided she was going to expose the corruption.
Ah. Interesting. That's good info. I didn't even know there was an "escape". Thought she just got too old for these freaks (like turned 20 years "old") but was still somehow connected to the inner circle
This is more like what I was pointing to. That by no means makes me feel less bad for her. She suffered a lot of trauma. She deserves healing and peace. I just think it was a bit odd is all.
I don't know much about her, but I know that she escaped from Epstein by "disappearing" during a layover in Australia on her way to Asia. She'd been living in hiding in Australia until she came out. She is married and has kids (I think 3)? She said she came out because she decided she was going to expose the corruption.
Undisputed Fact 2: In the articles, plaintiff alleged she had sex with Prince
Andrew, “a well-known businessman,” a “world-renowned scientist,” a “respected liberal
politician,” and a “foreign head of state.” Exs. A-B at 5.
Donald Trump is named a few times in this document, but only once with anything nefarious: page 147. Flirts with the victim. But then page 1918 says it's not true, he never has sex, never flirted, and never seen with Jeffrey.
Reddit it going wild because Trump's name is in the documents. It is: it basically clears him of any wrongdoing. But not surprisingly the Reddit post does not name these pages when stating which pages his name comes up. Psyop.
She says Trump didn't have sex with her, didn't flirt with her, and she never saw him anywhere (edit: correction. She didn't see him in the locations described and she doesn't remember seeing Trump and Epstein together).
Pretty laughable to be using these docs as a "lol we got Trump now" because he's not involved with this per the documents!!
No doubt the only thing talked about on MSM is Donald Trump being mentioned
C'mon....they're busy reporting on the train derailments. /s
If people think of the larger picture, there is a reason why Trump is pictured with Epstein and in these court docs. How else would you get raging TDS leftists to look at these documents or even care about them if Trump wasn't "in" them? Also, proves he didn't do anything... but alas, now the raging leftists are looking at the documents and are reading the material. That's how you get the other side to play the game. Bait.
They've been cheerleading 45's name drop in the logs since the logs came out years ago. All the proof you need that reddit is actually brain dead and/or driven by bots.
flight logs on pages 464-570 and 1654-1760
you can download the pdf from link in the posting, then click "original document PDF"
Ol Alan's name is in this flight log many, many times... Why did Hannity have him on his show? Mayor Rudy said he gave Hannity a hard drive copy of Hunters laptop top in 2019. Why did Hannity Barry it???
Alan Derschowitz was Epstein's defense attorney, so he'd have a business purpose for that many trips. Not saying he's innocent, just that he'd have a cover story.
Recently Guiffre said she may have "misremembered" Dershowitz's involvement in sexual activity with her and others. She could be telling the truth, or it could mean a deal was made.
I'm going with the "deal cut" theory. Dershie knows too much...
The attorney-client privilege protects most communications between clients and their lawyers. But, according to the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, a client's communication to his/her attorney isn't privileged if the client made it with the intention of committing or covering up a crime or fraud. OR in the process of committing a crime or fraud.
Is AD guilty? Maybe, maybe not. Does AD being on the flight log prove anything? Not necessarily but it certainly doesn't look good. But what it tells us is AD probably knows quite a bit.
does anyone else think it's odd that Virginia Guiffre decided to file this lawsuit after all these years? She was in all those pictures with them smiling and laughing, and worked with them for years. Why now?
I guess it takes years to understand what was done to you was wrong, there is deep shame that you deny, A minor who seems to agree to have sex does not change the fact that it was a crime, that she was taken advantage of, and all the "perks" and "gifts" were just prostitution. Consent does not matter when an adult takes advantage of a young person. Maybe she saw an advantage , it does not matter, does it? It was still a crime. Turn the genders around. A sexy woman of legal age can walk into a room of 15 year old boys, and most likely they would lunge to take a crack at her, be overjoyed, in some cases. It's still a crime and the onus would be on the adult.
No, I fully agree with you on that. It's just I can't remember why, but I've watched a few interviews with her and something struck me as opportunistic about her. Not saying that those bastards didn't deserve to be hung, they definitely do. So ultimately her trial brought this out to light which is amazing. I just think the perks may have stopped after sometime and now she realizes she's a victim.
A lot of women (and some men too) learn to fake smile and act happy... but there are parts of the old british empire where buying and selling minors has been traditionally "business as usual" for a very long time ..
Harvey Weinstein's consensual "victims" have entered the chat. It truly is a complex issue as to what constitutes consent and what is legal or illegal. Add the difficulty of litigating with todays standards versus those of the past.
I am now fascinated how Hollywood ignores when it is inconvenient to their "side".
She was a troubled “youth”. Issues at home and Ghislaine groomed. Story old as ages.
Young naive, bad home, looking for a way out…. Some older lady pretends to take a liking to you. Next thing you know you’re in compromising situations and don’t know where to go. Not everyone is street saavy. Pressuring a young girl to be a hand job masseuse when she needs a support system or resources is a dirtbag move.
I believe she was 17 at the time. Had she been 18 (so only months away) then none of this would have been an issue or exposed.
I am pretty sure she was recruited at 15 by Epstein. She was working at mar-a-lago at the time.
It's called Stockholm syndrome.
It seems likely, at this point, that she’s been working with white hats and has a role to play with timing and release.
My guess: She was being paid to stay silent. At some point, the gravy train was cut off so she spilled. Money flow could have stopped when Epstein was arrested or some time thereabout. Does anybody know what VG has done to make a living, pay bills, etc? Has it ever been mentioned of her having an occupation? If not, she was on a payroll that stopped sending out hush money so she grabbed the megaphone.
I don't know much about her, but I know that she escaped from Epstein by "disappearing" during a layover in Australia on her way to Asia. She'd been living in hiding in Australia until she came out. She is married and has kids (I think 3)? She said she came out because she decided she was going to expose the corruption.
Ah. Interesting. That's good info. I didn't even know there was an "escape". Thought she just got too old for these freaks (like turned 20 years "old") but was still somehow connected to the inner circle
This is more like what I was pointing to. That by no means makes me feel less bad for her. She suffered a lot of trauma. She deserves healing and peace. I just think it was a bit odd is all.
I don't know much about her, but I know that she escaped from Epstein by "disappearing" during a layover in Australia on her way to Asia. She'd been living in hiding in Australia until she came out. She is married and has kids (I think 3)? She said she came out because she decided she was going to expose the corruption.
Fauci, is that you ?
Names named? I am going to check Virginia's twitter
Followup the one i have doesnt have any posts since 2022..
How much you want to bet "larry" is larry fink, also didn't we already have the flight logs?
Same question popped into my mind. Didn't we already have this list?
Epstein documents right here:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6250471-Epstein-Docs