I don't believe them for one second. I worked for a company in the 90s that was buying medical data. I asked my boss why when it is illegal to use it. He said, it won't always be and we'll have a huge advantage because the competition isn't loading it.
a gun shop being out of 9mm seems like McDonalds running out of hamburgers. must be some left-wing restriction on how much they can order in. have you tried ordering through them and using cash? (would prove the idea of the order restriction)
Don’t believe VISA and Master Card. Just because it APPEARS they aren’t going to track, doesn’t mean they won’t. Pay cash. If the government pays them, they will track you. Also when a background check is done, they already have your ID.
There's also contract law, and you probably agree to let them do this shit to you somewhere in the fine print. I agree that it's wrong, maybe there's some legal precedent for overturning certain things... but the bill of rights were restrictions on the government, not on businesses. perhaps the laws which apply to " utilities " ought to apply to banks and creditors, at least in regard to being unable to restrict access to their services and use information gathered on you.
You make a good point here. Contracts are to be understood by all parties involved. If contracts are law and if a law is written in language not understandable to the average individual, then the law is void. Therefore, contracts also must follow this legal axiom. The Terms and Conditions of many of these contracts are 'fine print'. This naturally falls in the area I mentioned. What's not easily seen is not understandable. In saying this, I think almost everyone would agree that these contracts and their voluminous Terms and Conditions should be treated as 'informed consent' much like experimental vax☠xines are suppose to be.
First off they are most likely lying and what’s the consequence if they are? Nothing, secondly if they aren’t it’s because they already have it all
This really only hurt businesses to begin with (CC's tracking firearms/Ammo). If you're an individual, you'd have to be a complete moron to use a credit card in today's climate of "make any excuse to identify gun owners" by any and every agency out there. This is yet another reason the government is trying to go "cashless".
Additionally, they (the CC's) said they would stop....doesnt mean they will, nor find a loophole to continue the practice. Do not trust these MFer's, people...you have been warned.
I don't believe them for one second. I worked for a company in the 90s that was buying medical data. I asked my boss why when it is illegal to use it. He said, it won't always be and we'll have a huge advantage because the competition isn't loading it.
Should have been a crime to collect it in the first place.
Agreed.
Guns should be bought with cash 🇺🇸
I never have -- and never would -- buy guns or ammo with a credit card.
Why not just purchase with cash?
For me, I order online from out of state cuz my local shop is always out of 9mm.
a gun shop being out of 9mm seems like McDonalds running out of hamburgers. must be some left-wing restriction on how much they can order in. have you tried ordering through them and using cash? (would prove the idea of the order restriction)
It's not just availability. Yeah, they have the fancy hollow point rounds that are way over priced, but I just want basic target practice rounds.
And even with the cost of shipping, taxes, and receiving fees, I still save money ordering from Tennessee.
But yes, here in NorCal, the shops are probably hamstrung with bullshit regulations.
True
Hmmmmm ! ??? What if "WE" tracked Visa & Master Card - post , purchasing a fire arm and ammunition ??? How would that shit work out ???
How long until they turn face?
As soon as it’s to their advantage.
probably as soon as the heat cools down and they think it can be slipped past people while they are distracted with something else.
Don’t believe VISA and Master Card. Just because it APPEARS they aren’t going to track, doesn’t mean they won’t. Pay cash. If the government pays them, they will track you. Also when a background check is done, they already have your ID.
For the time being? The act itself is punishable of a crime violating the Constitution. Where thence goes thee now? Justice?
There's also contract law, and you probably agree to let them do this shit to you somewhere in the fine print. I agree that it's wrong, maybe there's some legal precedent for overturning certain things... but the bill of rights were restrictions on the government, not on businesses. perhaps the laws which apply to " utilities " ought to apply to banks and creditors, at least in regard to being unable to restrict access to their services and use information gathered on you.
You make a good point here. Contracts are to be understood by all parties involved. If contracts are law and if a law is written in language not understandable to the average individual, then the law is void. Therefore, contracts also must follow this legal axiom. The Terms and Conditions of many of these contracts are 'fine print'. This naturally falls in the area I mentioned. What's not easily seen is not understandable. In saying this, I think almost everyone would agree that these contracts and their voluminous Terms and Conditions should be treated as 'informed consent' much like experimental vax☠xines are suppose to be.
Riiiiiight..... and I'm a bridge realtor. Can sell you one dirt cheap!!
First off they are most likely lying and what’s the consequence if they are? Nothing, secondly if they aren’t it’s because they already have it all
use cash anyways to fuck with them
Not excused.
I would still do a cash advance before I would buy one on a card....
But we were denied the real win of gun shops having to move over to crypto, gold, cash, etc.
How does a state treasurer create a bill? So only for WV?
Yes this appears to be for West Virginia.
This really only hurt businesses to begin with (CC's tracking firearms/Ammo). If you're an individual, you'd have to be a complete moron to use a credit card in today's climate of "make any excuse to identify gun owners" by any and every agency out there. This is yet another reason the government is trying to go "cashless".
Additionally, they (the CC's) said they would stop....doesnt mean they will, nor find a loophole to continue the practice. Do not trust these MFer's, people...you have been warned.