I'm an engineer, not a flat earther. I'm an '"Elon" fan (or whomever is acting that part) and I follow him daily on Twitter. I believe without doubt that the Apollo missions were faked. But I worry about the lame thermal wrapping on this rocket engine, very reminiscent of the 1968 lunar lander prop; and about the scratchy audio on the commentator. She's not in space, so why is her audio so 1966? These days I automatically question everything I see, particularly if it is not censored on mainstream platforms like YT.
I remember listening to some talk show interview and the person claimed that there was a second mission at the same time as a backup because at the time space travel was still super dangerous. What they claimed was basically what Q said..the public footage was faked however the landing was real and a secret mission or project or whatever.
What I really mean is that the public, as q literally said in that post, is not aware of everything hence “outside public domain”
I’m not saying there are space bases or anything. I’m saying that sometimes, just like the Manhattan project and the Bomber programs they kept things completely under wraps until they didn’t want to anymore. It’s not far fetched at all that they faked the video at the time.
I agree. My point is, people who think we never went to moon because the public tech was so stupidly primitive at that time - they are half correct and half wrong.
The public footage was faked but the landings were real.
The public footage was real. Just because you don't understand what you saw doesn't mean it was faked. It showed phenomena that could only have been produced in lunar gravity and vacuum.
Q also said misinformation is necessary so we cannot have it both ways. Programs such as those of the cia and their ministry of disinformation also exist outside of the public domain. The earth is a spiritual realm. A heaven. A dimension . When God removes the veil we will see multi dimensional and realize that what we see is only because of what God allows us to see.
When God removes the veil we will see multi dimensional
We have stereo view. Meaning, to the movie on the back of our mind it seems as if there are the following dimensions:
length,
width,
hight,
=> depth.
And we see movement, meaning we see through time. => 4th dimension. Our brains are capable of reproduction of these sequences.
So, we already see multi-dimensional.
Q also said misinformation is necessary so we cannot have it both ways.
Why not. Based on your argument, anything Q wrote about can be tossed out. So, where does that leave you? Wasting your time here?
Perhaps it is time to learn a few things in real live by taking up my challenge for anyone who doubts the shape of our earth. Go sailing the route I challenged any FE-proponent to take. And this is not about circumnavigation, as that does proof only it is possible to sail around a central point, which is quite feasible on all three models of the earth: flat, spherical and hollow.
Another issue, brought to bear on the matter, is the compass sailing circumnavigation. It does proof, the ability to sail around a central point. In and of itself it does not proof the earth to be a globe, as in a flat-earth representation is clearly shown. It only means, one could circumnavigate around a central point, this being north pole.
>When consulting a traditional Flat earth map, and I am going to go with this one:
>https://chizzlewit.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/flat-earth-map-1.jpgJPG
>It clearly shows how to navigate from Auckland, New Zealand, to the rugged coast of Chili,Prta Isabel, located on the Darwin Canal, or to the Colombian Coast near Buenaventura (about same longitude)
>According to navionics, to sail both these destinations: 1.Prta Isabel: Distance: 4923 miles. Heading 97 degrees on the compass. 2.Buenaventura Columbia: 7322 miles, Heading 68 degrees on the compass.
>In both cases no, course alterations have to be made, except for maybe an Island or two.
>In your flat Earth representation, for the shortest route, I would have to go North -easterly 41 on the compass and it would take several alterations in course to reach destination by default. The route, in both cases, is to go all the way up to California, en than down south to either Chili or Colombia. I would say, at least double the distance.
>As an alternative, it is possible to maintain a easterly course along the 33 parallel South, and I would then end up in Ptra Isabel, however, the distance is at least double the distance as calculated by Navionics.
>I'd dare you to take a boat and test your FE hypothesis and take that trip. I would be interested in knowing your heading and distance covered.
Why this particular challenge? Well, simply put, your argument goes against 300 years of experience and mathematics and, if I may be so bold: global finance. You really think transports take the long way home? distance = time = money. And since transport is a costs, the cheaper the better.
So, allow God to lift the veil by actually putting the money where your mouth is. And since it is claimed that this is a growing movement, financing the damn thing would be easy. As a matter of fact, there is a 3 bitcoin price to be won. That should help with the financing of this particular challenge.
God is what really matters to me. His son! So it don’t matter either way to me. I would like to be rich like Elon and have the means to explore the entire thing. I love the outdoors and there is a lot of outdoors in this beautiful world YHWH created for us. It’s just awesome!
I especially liked the way the camera on the right switches back and forth from curved horizon and straight horizon. As if something was turning the effect on and off. Why? Its like dangling Barry's birth certificate. Just show the real one and be done with the debate. There is just as much footage of flat as curved. Both sides are spiking the ball. Genius!
moon landings happened one way or another but I am certain were also faked so as to guarantee success.
Think about it, if you had the resources of the US gov't and had a mission of "go to the moon" wouldn't you do what you could to guarantee that the world saw that "you went to the moon" no matter what?
It doesn't matter if a human stepped on the moon when they supposedly did or if it was some time later or some time before, the world saw that we did it "first" so we won the space race, period.
That's all that mattered. The anomalies we see now and the contradictions are simply because it WAS faked - also.
Add in advanced tech, and that is another reason to fake it. We had to go "to the moon" with 1960s technology. Rockets and such.
That's another reason to fake it. We had to go, no matter what, and we had to do it with publicly accepted 1960s tech.
So if the rockets didn't work because they sucked, or if something went wrong with the rockets, we were gonna go as far as the public knew.
sorry for the rambling post, this is not a yes/no question. So many of the ideas, issues and problems of today are presented to us with a yes/no A/B premise, and they rarely are so simple.
I'm an engineer, not a flat earther. I'm an '"Elon" fan (or whomever is acting that part) and I follow him daily on Twitter. I believe without doubt that the Apollo missions were faked. But I worry about the lame thermal wrapping on this rocket engine, very reminiscent of the 1968 lunar lander prop; and about the scratchy audio on the commentator. She's not in space, so why is her audio so 1966? These days I automatically question everything I see, particularly if it is not censored on mainstream platforms like YT.
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I remember listening to some talk show interview and the person claimed that there was a second mission at the same time as a backup because at the time space travel was still super dangerous. What they claimed was basically what Q said..the public footage was faked however the landing was real and a secret mission or project or whatever.
Q most definitely did not say that. You are putting your fantasy into his mouth. Nothing secret about the Moon landings.
What I really mean is that the public, as q literally said in that post, is not aware of everything hence “outside public domain”
I’m not saying there are space bases or anything. I’m saying that sometimes, just like the Manhattan project and the Bomber programs they kept things completely under wraps until they didn’t want to anymore. It’s not far fetched at all that they faked the video at the time.
At this point I don't know why we bother INSISTING on anything.
I agree. My point is, people who think we never went to moon because the public tech was so stupidly primitive at that time - they are half correct and half wrong.
The public footage was faked but the landings were real.
Though, I reject the notion that we somehow can't get there again because of "forgotten tech".
Bring us there, dammit. Imagine getting new material decades apart, with better collection tech and more capacity.
We should be aiming to set foot on the moon again, and yet none of these companies do.
The moon also makes sense as a launching point for heavier payloads as required thrust to get off the ground would be less.
If we could colonize the moon, it would pay off in very interesting ways.
If we are worried about radiation out in the vacuum, then we aren't prepared for Mars either.
Additionally, once again, I don't know why we don't offer a trip to space for the progression of science to death row inmates.
It's not cruel, it's not unusual, and it's not a reward. They will die up there, it's just a matter of what data we can collect until they do.
The public footage was real. Just because you don't understand what you saw doesn't mean it was faked. It showed phenomena that could only have been produced in lunar gravity and vacuum.
I could believe this. Probably cooked the astronauts and they had to cover up their deaths. Cannot admit that we sent them on a death mission.
No death mission. You are preferring a lie over the truth.
Q also said misinformation is necessary so we cannot have it both ways. Programs such as those of the cia and their ministry of disinformation also exist outside of the public domain. The earth is a spiritual realm. A heaven. A dimension . When God removes the veil we will see multi dimensional and realize that what we see is only because of what God allows us to see.
Let's analyze what you are saying.
We have stereo view. Meaning, to the movie on the back of our mind it seems as if there are the following dimensions:
And we see movement, meaning we see through time. => 4th dimension. Our brains are capable of reproduction of these sequences.
So, we already see multi-dimensional.
Why not. Based on your argument, anything Q wrote about can be tossed out. So, where does that leave you? Wasting your time here?
Perhaps it is time to learn a few things in real live by taking up my challenge for anyone who doubts the shape of our earth. Go sailing the route I challenged any FE-proponent to take. And this is not about circumnavigation, as that does proof only it is possible to sail around a central point, which is quite feasible on all three models of the earth: flat, spherical and hollow.
No it is specifically this:
added: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/uRpMCAmQo33CV4M2srWivf-320-80.jpg or https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a3ab2ad90bade9f35107e99/1554124455658-WB8BZGM976V88PB13U7S/LOGIC+Solutions+Group-April-Fools-Flat-Earth.jpg?format=1000w
Why this particular challenge? Well, simply put, your argument goes against 300 years of experience and mathematics and, if I may be so bold: global finance. You really think transports take the long way home? distance = time = money. And since transport is a costs, the cheaper the better.
So, allow God to lift the veil by actually putting the money where your mouth is. And since it is claimed that this is a growing movement, financing the damn thing would be easy. As a matter of fact, there is a 3 bitcoin price to be won. That should help with the financing of this particular challenge.
I dare you to do it, to make it happen.
I will take the bet that no matter how many dimensions there are, the earth is still an N-spherical.
God is what really matters to me. His son! So it don’t matter either way to me. I would like to be rich like Elon and have the means to explore the entire thing. I love the outdoors and there is a lot of outdoors in this beautiful world YHWH created for us. It’s just awesome!
I was thinking I’d like to buy some of that space foil for the next time I smoke a brisket.
You may not even need wood or a smoker depending on if the foil made it to space or not.
I especially liked the way the camera on the right switches back and forth from curved horizon and straight horizon. As if something was turning the effect on and off. Why? Its like dangling Barry's birth certificate. Just show the real one and be done with the debate. There is just as much footage of flat as curved. Both sides are spiking the ball. Genius!
I was thinking the same thing traveling at 11000 kilometers per hour....
moon landings happened one way or another but I am certain were also faked so as to guarantee success.
Think about it, if you had the resources of the US gov't and had a mission of "go to the moon" wouldn't you do what you could to guarantee that the world saw that "you went to the moon" no matter what?
It doesn't matter if a human stepped on the moon when they supposedly did or if it was some time later or some time before, the world saw that we did it "first" so we won the space race, period.
That's all that mattered. The anomalies we see now and the contradictions are simply because it WAS faked - also.
Add in advanced tech, and that is another reason to fake it. We had to go "to the moon" with 1960s technology. Rockets and such.
That's another reason to fake it. We had to go, no matter what, and we had to do it with publicly accepted 1960s tech.
So if the rockets didn't work because they sucked, or if something went wrong with the rockets, we were gonna go as far as the public knew.
sorry for the rambling post, this is not a yes/no question. So many of the ideas, issues and problems of today are presented to us with a yes/no A/B premise, and they rarely are so simple.