Trump on the death of Evangelist Pat Robertson…
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I'm probably going to get downvoted to hell for this, but I quit paying attention to Pat Robertson around 15 years ago, when I realized how much of a charlatan grifter he was.
Hopefully he truly got right with God.
No downvote from me - I got the same vibe as well.
Same here.
Same here. All televangelists are grifters.
Priestcraft is very strong on the Teevee... 😒
Add Jerry Falwell to that. But oh my parents loved his Old Time Gospel Hour.
I always looked at it this way:
"Since we're not supposed to speak ill of the dead, let's knock 'em while they're alive!"
I'll give you a pass when you're on the other side of the ground. Until then, you're fair game.
😂🤣
But why would President Trump give such a stirring eulogy for a someone like that? I mean, if we viewed everyone who asked for money and did a few shady things the same way, we wouldn't have anyone to depend on, including President Trump himself.
Same here.
I get what you're saying. I always had mixed feelings about Robertson. A lot of folks don't understand what "tele-evangelism" was back in the 80s and 90s. To give them a bit of an idea of the ludicrousness of it all, I point folks to one of my all time favorite bands and one of their videos, the Hooters' excellent song "Satellite" from 1985....which PERFECTLY captures the nonsense of tele-evangelism from that era.
https://youtu.be/RVXjBMK3EkI
Robertson was a fake Christian. He was a Templar / Mason. The symbol of a cross intertwined with the crown, is the joining of church & state, thus making MAN... GOD.
simply put, the crown & cross of the Templar / Masons, is the doing away with any idea of any of a Lord God being The Most High God. Rather, it professes that the enlightened MAN is GOD. [In God We Trust]??
Believe in what they believe in, or you're a heretic.
Robertson declared himself as an enemy of the Lord God, when he showed his "Lions Paw" on TIME magazine.
The Southern Baptist Church is totally run by Masonry, also.
Catholicism is entrenched with many factions, such as satanists, Jesuits, communists & Freemasons.
The "Age Of Deception". The "Philosophers Of Fire".
Would love to hear some more on this.
Growing up in the SB church, I know there were a LOT of low level Masons at the small, country churches. I can only imagine there were many higher ups at the bigger churches, where the real money was.
That's funny. They say the Mormon church RUNS on Masonry...
Badum-tss
(I'm an equal opportunity offender, so take no offense. Just having fun with you all. Got any atheist jokes? I have thick skin, I can take 'em!)
Only in the building of Temples and meeting houses. Mason's (the workers) ROCK... 😊
Not sure if you remember when the S.B. took up the question of Freemasonry and whether it is compatible with being a Southern Baptist. It was probably 15 or more years ago. I remember that a survey of S.B. ministers revealed that 30% of S.B. Ministers are also active Freemasons. That was the number that admitted to it.
I don't remember ever reading another word about them questioning the subject.
Albert Pike states clearly in his,"Morals and Dogma," that Freemasonry is "identical" with the "Ancient Mysteries." The Ancient Mystery Religion is Paganism - or worship of Lucifer, otherwise known as Satan.
I would not put it all on the Southern Baptists. From the current condition of what calls itself, "Christianity," It is doubtful that any organized Christianity is in any better condition than them.
EDIT: Amos.8
We were warned.
Ty
Your response inspired me to do some digging…
The Southern Baptist Convention did take up the topic of whether Freemasonry was compatible with Baptist faith in 1993. The Convention approved a report on Freemasonry that recognized its charitable endeavors and its many outstanding Christian and Southern Baptist members, but also concluded that many tenets and teachings of Freemasonry were not compatible with Christianity or Southern Baptist doctrine.
The report identified eight areas of incompatibility, such as the use of offensive and blasphemous terms relating to God, the use of bloody oaths, the inclusion of occult and pagan readings, the misuse of the term "light" to refer to moral reformation, the teaching of salvation by works, the advocacy of universalism, and the discrimination against non-whites in some lodges.
The report also recommended that churches and individuals should study the issue carefully and prayerfully before making any decisions regarding Freemasonry.
In 2000, the North American Mission Board of the Southern Baptist Convention published a pamphlet titled "A Closer Look at Freemasonry" that expanded on the 1993 report and provided a comparison chart between Freemasonry, Christianity and the Bible on various issues
Sources:
https://www.namb.net/apologetics/resource/freemasonry-overview/
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/new-publication-on-freemasonry-available-from-sbcs-north-american-mission-board/
https://www.namb.net/apologetics/resource/freemasonry-overview/
https://www.lakelandfbc.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Quotations_relating_to_the_nature_of_Freemasonry.pdf
Thanks for the expanded information. I was going off memory from decades ago.
My most vivid memory was being dumbstruck that any "Christian" religion would have ANY reservations about banning what boils down to Satan worship in their members or particularly their ministers.
Fewer things shock me these days, as I see who is in control behind the scenes.
Truman was a 33rd degree Mason. I would assume our government is mostly comprised of Masons.
My SB church pastor from a few years ago wouldn't allow Masonic funeral rites in the church.
On the other hand, the lower level people don't know what's going on at the top. I knew several Masons who could discuss the Bible as well as a good preacher. I'm sure they would be shocked if you could have proved to them what was going on at the top. They were just simple country people in a social club that would actually invite them in.
Check out these articles: https://pulpitandpen.org/tag/freemasonry/
Go to a big time SBC and count how masonic stickers you see on cars.
If only you truly understood history
The only televangelist I ever liked was the late great Dr. D. James Kennedy.
The Coral Ridge Hour was appointment viewing.
There was a huge difference between him and say Robert Tilton. Kenneth Copeland is another one I despise. Kennedy seemed like a genuinely good man.
Sat in a few of his Sermons down here in South Florida at Coral Ridge before he passed. A treat, indeed.
My mother was a huge Charles Stanley fan.
I hear he died recently.
I hope I'm wrong and that he was one of the good ones as well.
Was he a grifter?
Yes, as all of us are to some degree.
Was he a bad man?
I do not believe he was evil. He was decent.
Before the internet, people like me could only find alternative voice in programs like, 700 club.
It was a big deal back in the day for people searching for truth.
I have nothing but fond memories.
RIP
Great eulogy by Trump.
Agreed 100%
My daughter worked for him and his network for at least 10 years before she went to that place that shall not be named.
:)
I am a non church going on Q outside the box autist Christian
But if Trump and Jesse Duplantis are hurt about it, he must have been a good man.
Before anyone talks about Jesse, listen to his sermons..he has been staying cozy before cozy was a thing
Even as a kid, i loved his A Merry Heart Doeth Good Like a Medicine tapes ♥ he's a brilliant storyteller
Just for the record, I am not a church-goer. That does not work for me. But I am a "listener" and a reader and I try to walk my talk.
People who are incredibly wealthy through leading huge fellowships should be measured by what they do with that wealth and where their hearts are, where their joy resides, about helping their fellow man. By that standard I find nothing but compassion in the lives of Jesse Duplantis, Ken Copeland and Jerry Savelle. I may not always be in the mood for Jesse and Ken but that's just me. But Jerry? That man has had things to say that have helped me immensely along my path in life. Coming to the understanding that each human contributes to God and that the intention of our heart is absolutely key. Doing "good things" without a pure heart is essentially meaningless. Getting right with God and understanding yourself. Worthy goals. The day I found out that "God" was listening when I spoke in prayer and I saw the proof of it, my life changed. And about Jesse, let me tell you, he may be funny, of course he is. Personable. But underneath that? His knowledge is sharp as a blade and he is not messing around. If you know his history, you know how far into the dark territory he was when he was young. Can't fool Jesse. Since I have walked those dark passages too, I like that he knows what he knows.
shame so many have to bend the knee to the marching to zion monolithic voting block.
I stand with Trump 100%. Not going to make an exception for Pat Robertson. It's easy to criticize televangelists from the cheap seats and Satan certainly tempted and made fools out of some. Pat wasn't one of them. Happy that President Trump recognizes that. As usual, he's right.