Devil's advocate here: do we have guarantee that the $16 million fine would survive a constitutional challenge on 8th Amendment grounds (prohibits cruel and unusual punishments and prohibits excessive fines)?
Do we have a backup plan to recover our reputation if the fine gets struck down by the Supreme Court?
The resolution should be redrawn for passage to censure Schiff. Once passed, other resolutions can be introduced." I'm sure the republicans would vote approvingly to censure Adam "liar" Schiff. It is most likely the heavy fine that many of the 20 republicans objected to. It can work both ways, and will be undoubtedly used to target republicans in the future.
It is most likely the heavy fine that many of the 20 republicans objected to.
I would probably object to the heavy fine on the basis of constitutionality:
1.) The authority to levy fines of this magnitude should be only in the courts, with the executive branch carrying out enforcement. Congress, with it being a legislature branch, should not have the authority to dish out punishments as they see fit and usurp the courts' duties.
2.) Massie questioned if the $16 million fine runs afoul of the 8th Amendment's probation against excessive fines and if the fine would survive Judicial review. I have to agree that the millions of dollars in fines could be argued as excessive and would have a very tough chance surviving the Supreme Court's review.
The MAGA men over at Truth Social would find my words as blasphemy, but I do think that these two items are a cause for concern that should not be dismissed to satisfy sinful bloodlust.
In this case, DC Draino needs to be called out for not providing the whole truth.
That's the question about DC_Draino (ergo, Rogan O'Handley). He reminds me of another Charlie Kirk. I just can't buy into this guy. So, it is with guarded expectations whenever I come across his posts. Even his background screams who is funding this dude?
Rogan O'Handley is a former California-based Hollywood entertainment lawyer. He left his law career to become a conservative social media influencer. Who does this unless being on the payroll or having some benefactor funding them? After gaining 80,000 followers on his account, he quit his job as an entertainment lawyer to pursue a full-time career as a social media expert and political activist.
I'm not saying I disagree with his viewpoints. I can't think of many I disagree with. However, is O'Handley paid as a provocateur of a sort? Jumping to demonize Massie and other republicans for voting against a resolution having an unconstitutional excessive fine included is indicative of O'Handley playing such a role. The net effect is dividing republicans and setting them up to not be re-elected. Maybe there's more to O'Handley than being born to outspoken Democrat parents? This is found in his biography.
I don't trust him. Be wary of those that rise to fame quickly and appear as a 'experts' of public opinion.
That is the thing with influencers. They are slaves to their audiences' demands, which prevents them from having the courage to ask the real questions or making unpopular but necessary questions to get to the real truth, least they lose their audience and their income.
I use them for news, but I will not trust them all to speak the real truth, which is sad. Not only we have to combat the lies from the MSM, we also have to combat the lies from our side as well.
It woulda helped if there had been an Ethic Committee investigation of the accusation against Schiff as required in House Rules prior to the House vote.
Then Rep. Tom Cole, Chair of House Rules Committee, might have voted for the thingy.
This hocus pocus needs to end. Until I see anyone of these people who stand with the dictator Biden arrested and the media arrested I will continue to say USA is gone. From this moment in we are a full blown communist country and all of us are in a very long line of them wrecking havoc on all of us. It is inevitable.United Slaves of America.
Nothing is stopping what is already here.
This psyop is just that. This psyop doesn’t realize their is a real God and that is going to be their downfall.
I am not angry either. It is what it is. At this rate by the elections we will see public executions of those who do not bow to the father of the USA.
My regret is those who have sacrificed their lives for this to be. Very sad. This is not a doomer here either. It is exciting. There is no way these win but there is no way denying that right now USA is gone.
I ask why DC Draino, Catturd, and other influencers are not answering the important questions, like if the $16 million fine conflicts with the 8th Amendment's ban on excessive fines?
Garret Graves, I was surprised to see his name and yes I absolutely want clarification from him. If I don't get it in a timely fashion I will hound his office to get an answer. I can't imagine what his response could be....I wasn't born yesterday.
Because they're compromised in some way.
Here’s the list:
https://postimg.cc/nCMSyBRc
This
Indeed.
☝️ THIS
Devil's advocate here: do we have guarantee that the $16 million fine would survive a constitutional challenge on 8th Amendment grounds (prohibits cruel and unusual punishments and prohibits excessive fines)?
Do we have a backup plan to recover our reputation if the fine gets struck down by the Supreme Court?
Is this the hill we really want to die on?
Congress is not part of the judicial branch. It is an internal administrative matter.
was going to say that!
The resolution should be redrawn for passage to censure Schiff. Once passed, other resolutions can be introduced." I'm sure the republicans would vote approvingly to censure Adam "liar" Schiff. It is most likely the heavy fine that many of the 20 republicans objected to. It can work both ways, and will be undoubtedly used to target republicans in the future.
The Democrats are never afraid. The Republicans live in fear.
This should be the top comment
Correct
They sign off on this fine, and guess who's next? They are!
Nobody wants that and it's unconstitutional if that matters anymore.
Yeah, Thomas Massie specifically pointed to how he's still fighting Pelosi for when she docked his pay for not wearing the face diaper.
Same with Kay Granger.
I would probably object to the heavy fine on the basis of constitutionality:
1.) The authority to levy fines of this magnitude should be only in the courts, with the executive branch carrying out enforcement. Congress, with it being a legislature branch, should not have the authority to dish out punishments as they see fit and usurp the courts' duties.
2.) Massie questioned if the $16 million fine runs afoul of the 8th Amendment's probation against excessive fines and if the fine would survive Judicial review. I have to agree that the millions of dollars in fines could be argued as excessive and would have a very tough chance surviving the Supreme Court's review.
The MAGA men over at Truth Social would find my words as blasphemy, but I do think that these two items are a cause for concern that should not be dismissed to satisfy sinful bloodlust.
In this case, DC Draino needs to be called out for not providing the whole truth.
That's the question about DC_Draino (ergo, Rogan O'Handley). He reminds me of another Charlie Kirk. I just can't buy into this guy. So, it is with guarded expectations whenever I come across his posts. Even his background screams who is funding this dude?
Rogan O'Handley is a former California-based Hollywood entertainment lawyer. He left his law career to become a conservative social media influencer. Who does this unless being on the payroll or having some benefactor funding them? After gaining 80,000 followers on his account, he quit his job as an entertainment lawyer to pursue a full-time career as a social media expert and political activist.
I'm not saying I disagree with his viewpoints. I can't think of many I disagree with. However, is O'Handley paid as a provocateur of a sort? Jumping to demonize Massie and other republicans for voting against a resolution having an unconstitutional excessive fine included is indicative of O'Handley playing such a role. The net effect is dividing republicans and setting them up to not be re-elected. Maybe there's more to O'Handley than being born to outspoken Democrat parents? This is found in his biography.
I don't trust him. Be wary of those that rise to fame quickly and appear as a 'experts' of public opinion.
That is the thing with influencers. They are slaves to their audiences' demands, which prevents them from having the courage to ask the real questions or making unpopular but necessary questions to get to the real truth, least they lose their audience and their income.
I use them for news, but I will not trust them all to speak the real truth, which is sad. Not only we have to combat the lies from the MSM, we also have to combat the lies from our side as well.
DC_Draino TS post - https://truthsocial.com/@DC_Draino/110550405538964517
This is hogwash… These RINOS need to be exposed and taken down !!
Pick a side. Prepare for consequences to your choice.
Exposing the RINO's
Traitors won't soon be forgotten.
It woulda helped if there had been an Ethic Committee investigation of the accusation against Schiff as required in House Rules prior to the House vote.
Then Rep. Tom Cole, Chair of House Rules Committee, might have voted for the thingy.
Rumor is they voted no bc a fine was tacked on and will vote yes when it is reintroduced w no fine
No big surprise. Pedo's are known to stick together to provide cover for their crimes.
This hocus pocus needs to end. Until I see anyone of these people who stand with the dictator Biden arrested and the media arrested I will continue to say USA is gone. From this moment in we are a full blown communist country and all of us are in a very long line of them wrecking havoc on all of us. It is inevitable.United Slaves of America.
Nothing is stopping what is already here.
This psyop is just that. This psyop doesn’t realize their is a real God and that is going to be their downfall.
I am not angry either. It is what it is. At this rate by the elections we will see public executions of those who do not bow to the father of the USA.
My regret is those who have sacrificed their lives for this to be. Very sad. This is not a doomer here either. It is exciting. There is no way these win but there is no way denying that right now USA is gone.
Actually this explains it all then!!!
https://greatawakening.win/p/16bPeVYbOq/bannon-this-is-the-biggest-story/c/
Anyone notice any Brinks trucks in their driveways?
Which leads to the next obvious question. Why?
Hopefully the awakening process will lead Republican voters to ask themselves and then their elected GOP politicians.
The answers will be enlightening.
I ask why DC Draino, Catturd, and other influencers are not answering the important questions, like if the $16 million fine conflicts with the 8th Amendment's ban on excessive fines?
There they are. The 20 Minor Attracted Rinos
just sayin',.....but the RINOs in question now have the burden to prove that there AREN'T any pics of them w/ their schwantz buried in an 8 year-old.
Garret Graves, I was surprised to see his name and yes I absolutely want clarification from him. If I don't get it in a timely fashion I will hound his office to get an answer. I can't imagine what his response could be....I wasn't born yesterday.