Wow, that would be fantastic! Maybe the deep state said that she either had to shut up and fake her death, or they would take her out? Or she has been hiding from the deep state. Either way, the deep state got her to stop talking. She was certainly old enough to retire from the limelight, and it could be comforting to live a more normal life for her remaining years.
She didn't have to actually disappear- just do it 'publicly'. They don't treat their own badly unless necessary- impossible to build any system otherwise- recruits run out.
In this scenario it'd make perfect sense she'd retain her voice / features. The only people she had to fool were us. To them it'd be an inside joke. Again.
Shortly before Joan’s “death” she had commented that Barack was our first gay president and Michelle Obama was a tranny. When asked what she said, she replied, “You know, a transgender.” I think that’s why she was removed from the public eye.
Here's one. I originally saw the 5:32 video with the tranny disclosure included (a year or two ago now), but can't find it with a brief perusal, don't have time to dig for it right now.
They sure do...lies and subterfuge is their motto....and truth is so often stranger than fiction...we will fall for anything....and they are probably right...
At 1:27 what appears to be a paparazzi offers to escort her to the waiting car. Look at the angle of that footage. Just who is taking that? Are they standing virtually on top of the two as they walk the few steps to the waiting car? The footage is from up high, at least a tall person's head height. It might be another paparazzi with a camera on a pole (though I don't see a reflection behind her in the open door). And why so very much focus/attention on this "supposed nobody" friend/dining companion? Edit: I believe they're purposefully getting the close-up footage for the facial comparison. IMO they already know who she is, but are getting "legal" proof.
At 1:47 the driver/chauffeur asks Clive "Do you want to talk about it? You don't wanna talk about it?" (This in response to a paparazzi asking Clive if he's been in touch with someone). Consider this... They're in the car, windows closed, on a city street and the footage shows there's no one within ten feet of that car when they're talking. How ever do you hear that part of their private conversation clearly like that? The audio is coming from inside that car. They were being surveilled both on the street and from inside that car. I'm guessing this is a WH operation.
This is probably the biggest "tell", most obvious.
People get used to watching movies where something like this may be commonplace when telling the story, but in real life you can't hear conversation in those conditions without a listening device. Maybe the WH hacked into the car's microphone or planted a listening device or the driver is part of the team or... Lord only knows what kind of technology is available.
Could be...things certainly can be very intriguing...this is all a very astute observation...I just took the whole thing at face value...but there is more to this clip than meets the eye...I did wonder who was taking these videos...
Here's something else to look at. Keep a close eye on the bearded dude in the black hat, smiling and friendly. You'll see him in the 1:27 segment as he gets right in center frame and is (most seriously) looking at whoever is taking that footage.
Now go back to the one minute mark. He's laughing and talking and... Look at the hand gesture he makes with his right hand. Look at where he's looking at the cameraman. It's like he's signaling to the same person taking the footage to get into the next position or to get a group shot or something - and that person filming starts moving towards the car.
Well she "died" in 2014 so the date of the video was in question...how do we know it was after her death? Valid query...I don't see any way to prove the date of the video. This video has been around for quite a long time, though...
You guesstimate Joan is 5' and surprisingly that Schuman Silver lady is also 5' so the height doesn't reveal much in terms of whether or not this is JR...
I hope she is alive for the sake of her daughter and grandson — and, of course, all her fans like me.
I saw her perform in Las Vegas when I was 17. I was with my dad and have never been more embarrassed in my life when she did her bit on going to the gynecologist. Cringe!
I can see how awkward that would be...it reminds me of when my mom was in the hospital and I started my period in 6th grade and my dad had to buy the products after we involved a neighbor...cringeworthy for sure...but we grow up and then laugh about going to the gyno like Joan and we have no inhibitions anymore...life is funny like that...what a difference a few years makes...haha...
Definitely not what...dead or alive?...conspiracy or fact?
This is video proof...if she is alive a lot of people were in on covering up her death...she was "cremated" so there is no body...
Well....now see...Elvis is another one...h-m-m...this could happen a lot more than we realize...I think JFK, Jr. is pretty confirmed...too many pictures of him at the rallies with the wife and kids and that military Q was the definitive picture...what a handsome man....wow...you would have to be dead not to notice that...
No...actually when I first saw the video of her years ago...it was just the video of them exiting the restaurant...I looked long and hard to find this video and now someone incorporated the video I originally saw into this more comprehensive video...
I agree the looks are very similar and the voice and accent are also similar...but I am not sure they exactly match...it would surely be great if someone would do a voice match since the samples are available...what is interesting in the video is how she moves out of the spotlight...this lady looks like she is used to the spotlight and why would she move away from Clive...to tell you the truth...it could be and it could not be...I really don't know anymore...lots of intrigue...
Edit...I looked very carefully at Silver and there are a lot of facial differences even though they look generally similar...so half a dozen of one or the other...I wonder how tall Silver is compared to Joan?
Wow, that would be fantastic! Maybe the deep state said that she either had to shut up and fake her death, or they would take her out? Or she has been hiding from the deep state. Either way, the deep state got her to stop talking. She was certainly old enough to retire from the limelight, and it could be comforting to live a more normal life for her remaining years.
I agree...it seems like perhaps a lot of people have been silenced by this method...
Yet no one has seen her since the alleged restaurant visit with Clive? 8 years later?
But that does NOT negate this one video taped instance...does it?
Is that Vincent Fusca in the background?
I was thinking that too, lol!
What a master troll
Haha...
Silly users.
Joan will have little resemblance to her "pre-death" appearance.
If the remade model bore any similarity to the old Joan, she wouldn't have faked her death.
^^this. why would she want to look and sound the same if she was going into hiding?
She didn't have to actually disappear- just do it 'publicly'. They don't treat their own badly unless necessary- impossible to build any system otherwise- recruits run out.
In this scenario it'd make perfect sense she'd retain her voice / features. The only people she had to fool were us. To them it'd be an inside joke. Again.
How would you know...have you ever faked your death...just asking...I mean we have seen pics of JFK, Jr. and he looks the same...just sayin'...
Shortly before Joan’s “death” she had commented that Barack was our first gay president and Michelle Obama was a tranny. When asked what she said, she replied, “You know, a transgender.” I think that’s why she was removed from the public eye.
Here's one. I originally saw the 5:32 video with the tranny disclosure included (a year or two ago now), but can't find it with a brief perusal, don't have time to dig for it right now.
https://youtu.be/W4z2JZSLFI4
I’ll start looking. I’ve seen it fifty times and I couldn’t tell you the source, other than telegram.
Silicone masks are amazing. Just saying.
Ah...yes they are...but why pretend such a thing...just be dead and stay dead...
Because the DS likes to F* with us
They sure do...lies and subterfuge is their motto....and truth is so often stranger than fiction...we will fall for anything....and they are probably right...
Maybe they don't want to be killed? Maybe they can contribute to the downfall of the cabal while incognito? Privacy?
Many, many, many possibilities...she would not be the first nor the last...
It is all very interesting to say the least!
Absolutely....some interesting diversion to say the least...
in the joan and melissa show last episode she says she will die during surgery...
How convenient...
Agree that's JR, voice matches (as opposed to the Jo Silver theory others have posited), etc. I brought this up recently so it's fresh in my mind.
Something else to consider... 1:27 and 1:47 .... notice any thing(s)?
No...I don't...can you clue me in...and I agree the voice is the most telling...and I am wondering about her height...
At 1:27 what appears to be a paparazzi offers to escort her to the waiting car. Look at the angle of that footage. Just who is taking that? Are they standing virtually on top of the two as they walk the few steps to the waiting car? The footage is from up high, at least a tall person's head height. It might be another paparazzi with a camera on a pole (though I don't see a reflection behind her in the open door). And why so very much focus/attention on this "supposed nobody" friend/dining companion? Edit: I believe they're purposefully getting the close-up footage for the facial comparison. IMO they already know who she is, but are getting "legal" proof.
At 1:47 the driver/chauffeur asks Clive "Do you want to talk about it? You don't wanna talk about it?" (This in response to a paparazzi asking Clive if he's been in touch with someone). Consider this... They're in the car, windows closed, on a city street and the footage shows there's no one within ten feet of that car when they're talking. How ever do you hear that part of their private conversation clearly like that? The audio is coming from inside that car. They were being surveilled both on the street and from inside that car. I'm guessing this is a WH operation.
That audio got me too. There had to have been mics in the car. No way would audio just be picked up like that, I don't care how big the boom is.
This is probably the biggest "tell", most obvious.
People get used to watching movies where something like this may be commonplace when telling the story, but in real life you can't hear conversation in those conditions without a listening device. Maybe the WH hacked into the car's microphone or planted a listening device or the driver is part of the team or... Lord only knows what kind of technology is available.
Exactly. I used to work in film and there's definitely a mic in that car somehow.
Could be...things certainly can be very intriguing...this is all a very astute observation...I just took the whole thing at face value...but there is more to this clip than meets the eye...I did wonder who was taking these videos...
More to this than meets the eye... Indeed.
Here's something else to look at. Keep a close eye on the bearded dude in the black hat, smiling and friendly. You'll see him in the 1:27 segment as he gets right in center frame and is (most seriously) looking at whoever is taking that footage.
Now go back to the one minute mark. He's laughing and talking and... Look at the hand gesture he makes with his right hand. Look at where he's looking at the cameraman. It's like he's signaling to the same person taking the footage to get into the next position or to get a group shot or something - and that person filming starts moving towards the car.
Intrigue...intrigue...intrigue...a lot goes on that we will NEVER know about...that is for sure....
I stood next to JR in England. I was amazed at how small she was. Around five feet at a guess. And her face was caked with makeup.
Was this before or after she died....haha...
Clearly you all have not met many Jewish broads from New York.
How would I know if I am not from New York...do they all look alike and speak with identical accents?
Looks like Joan Rivers, but how can those watching the clips verify the dates of them?
That's a good point...there must be some way...
I have a copy of this video, "Joan Rivers CAUGHT ALIVE in public six months after 'death'," which I downloaded on 6 January 2020.
Well she "died" in 2014 so the date of the video was in question...how do we know it was after her death? Valid query...I don't see any way to prove the date of the video. This video has been around for quite a long time, though...
You guesstimate Joan is 5' and surprisingly that Schuman Silver lady is also 5' so the height doesn't reveal much in terms of whether or not this is JR...
She’d be 90,now I’m thinking !
Well...a lot of people live to be 90...especially if they didn't take the vax....I know several personally...
Oh yes that’s actually what I meant ,, it’s not like she would have been 100 and living 10 years safe is worth it ! If that is the case
Fusca, and there you have it. Wh op. All a part of the awakening.
I hope she is alive for the sake of her daughter and grandson — and, of course, all her fans like me.
I saw her perform in Las Vegas when I was 17. I was with my dad and have never been more embarrassed in my life when she did her bit on going to the gynecologist. Cringe!
I can see how awkward that would be...it reminds me of when my mom was in the hospital and I started my period in 6th grade and my dad had to buy the products after we involved a neighbor...cringeworthy for sure...but we grow up and then laugh about going to the gyno like Joan and we have no inhibitions anymore...life is funny like that...what a difference a few years makes...haha...
Well, I'm not convinced, but if it is Ms.Rivers, good on her.
Definitely not
Definitely not what...dead or alive?...conspiracy or fact? This is video proof...if she is alive a lot of people were in on covering up her death...she was "cremated" so there is no body...
That lady looks nothing like her.
That said, I'm not saying she's alive or dead, just that that is not her.
I'm sure many fake their deaths to avoid getting killed by the DS.
I think I saw Elvis with jfk jr at kfc
Well....now see...Elvis is another one...h-m-m...this could happen a lot more than we realize...I think JFK, Jr. is pretty confirmed...too many pictures of him at the rallies with the wife and kids and that military Q was the definitive picture...what a handsome man....wow...you would have to be dead not to notice that...
Do you have a link or archive to these pics?
No...actually when I first saw the video of her years ago...it was just the video of them exiting the restaurant...I looked long and hard to find this video and now someone incorporated the video I originally saw into this more comprehensive video...
That's Jo Schuman SIlver (supposedly best friends with Clive Davis) Joan is dead. Sorry!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKxDNA8V58&ab_channel=KPIX%7CCBSNEWSBAYAREA
The woman's voice in the video above is not the same as this woman's voice. It's not Jo.
I agree the looks are very similar and the voice and accent are also similar...but I am not sure they exactly match...it would surely be great if someone would do a voice match since the samples are available...what is interesting in the video is how she moves out of the spotlight...this lady looks like she is used to the spotlight and why would she move away from Clive...to tell you the truth...it could be and it could not be...I really don't know anymore...lots of intrigue...
Edit...I looked very carefully at Silver and there are a lot of facial differences even though they look generally similar...so half a dozen of one or the other...I wonder how tall Silver is compared to Joan?
They took a wrong turn and are on the wrong path