A while ago someone asked me how to appeal to young people, so I thought up some answers that might help.
I'm gonna be honest, no one I know under the age of 20 has a high opinion of the GOP or the conservative ecosystem in general. It's hard to get anyone my age interested in politics as it is but being vaguely liberal is definitely the default position.
Here's what I think should change:
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No more bootstrapping. Young people aren't proud of the fact that they might have to work hard every day doing something they hate just to survive. Gen-Z generally sees productivity in a negative light, because the general vibe it gives is that of being stressed, rushed, and forced to do something that feels completely unnatural. I think a lot of zoomers turn to socialism because they hate how much of their lives are dominated by economic considerations. Everything from picking a major in college to choosing where to live to choosing whether or not to have a family is downstream from the pressure to compete in an economy and stay financially afloat. Everyone hates this.
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No more Cold War / War on Terrorism rhetoric. We were born after 9/11 and every example we've seen of going to war or doing regime change is seen as a total disaster. We don't care about "defending our allies" or "making America strong in the world" or anything like that. Our lives are being decided here in this country, not in Ukraine or China or Israel. The best Zoomer-friendly foreign policy position is trying to make friends with everyone and making compromises to achieve that.
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Being an "institutionalist" in this century is completely out of step with the times. Young people want revolution. We want to take part in a new era of history that's completely different from the shitty world we're experiencing now. Something great and exciting, not just a return to legal precedent or the founding fathers. Pretty much everyone I know thinks the Constitution is either outdated or something that should be interpreted very loosely. The few Trump supporters and Young Republicans I know are more interested in handing power over to an inspiring leader like Trump who will use his judgment instead of going by a pretty limited historical document.
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This is a smaller one, but politician speak really needs to die. "When we do this, they do that." Talking about the kitchen table or "everyday Americans." The cringe turn of phrases and canned lines written by someone who has obviously never had a real conversation before. Basically don't be Ron DeSantis or Tim Scott lol. The president we grew up under was Trump, not Ronald Reagan. Talking about Reagan or trying to sound like him is like trying to make Calvin Coolidge a big thing in the 80s. It doesn't make sense for this generation.
I'll try to think of more soon.
What's the saying Good times create weak men .... They are weak and they will/are creating hard times so they need to buck the fuck up and go to work because socialism is not wtf they think it is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3m3ZkJTX1qY&pp
Proof: Millions of illegals from socialist utopia pouring in to America. Is DHS handing them 17 mail in ballots along with catch and release?
Here’s the thing. Patriots are working their a$$es off fighting for our country. The majority of us have full time jobs (and many of us don’t like them, but we do them because we’re responsible, contributing members of society), and work an additional 30-50 hours per week attending meetings, protesting, researching, holding our reps feet to the fire and other similarly distasteful things all for the good of humanity. We are EXHAUSTED!
The last thing I, as a Patriot, need to hear right now is that we need to change to get a group of kids that really doesn’t give a shit about humanity (based on my question/answer session with you a few weeks back) involved. If y’all don’t care, you just don’t care. Simple as that. There will be no participation ribbons awarded at the end of this battle. There won’t be anything but the satisfaction of knowing that we did our part to save humanity. If that’s not good enough, move along.
Sorry I’m being so direct, but your diatribe sounds like asking to be begged to give a crap about humanity. You either do or you don’t.
I appreciate the directness lol. This post was mainly about directional changes that probably need to happen if the left isn't going to have total control in 20 years. It's not so much about what has to happen right now but more of trends that will become more and more important over time.
Fuck you and your trends.
Life's hard enough without little ingrates trying to dictate.
Freedom is rough and ugly and hard.
Curl into an assball and cry about it, but your tone is all wrong.
The leftist policies made them weak while brainwashing them into blaming the right so your strategy is to coddle them even more?
While I can't condone the "FU" comment I do concur with the rest of the sentiments replied to here. Politics are downstream culture, and culture is downstream faith. You're seeing a spiritual issue, not a politics/work ethic issue. Of course no one wants to work hard for 60 years - not when you're completely divorced from a system of ethics, particularly that which the Bible teaches.
If you're not a Christian you're likely already disregarding this, and if you are, hopefully you realize this - at least subconsciously. You can't become more liberal in order to appeal to liberals in hopes of moving them towards conservatism. It will never ever work. This is why we have lost the cultural battles over the last 40 years.
My first thoughts after reading your comments:
Looking at things strictly from the perspective of how the world is right now, the problem with your generation is that most young people think the entire world revolves around them. It doesn't. Now before you go off about how I'm just attacking your generation, I'm not. My generation was exactly the same AT THAT AGE, and so was every other generation before me. But right now, at this moment in time, it's your generation that is at that self-absorbed age where you think that everything revolves around you, and everything in the world should be catered to YOUR needs and desires. Your generation is currently experiencing the same rude awakening that all the rest of us have already gone through.
All of your suggestions seem to imply that everyone else on the planet should change their behaviors and approach young people by coming 100% over to their way of thinking and interact with them 100% on THEIR terms. Life doesn't work that way, and it never has. Your generation is currently at that point that every generation goes through, where you are all learning that you are not the most important thing in the universe, and there are many unpleasant realities in life that you are going to have to start dealing with. Realizing this, and shifting your mindset accordingly, is a very important and crucial step in growing up and maturing as a person. If everyone approaches young people on bended knee and accepts their premise that they are the center of the universe, it does them no favors at all. I began to understand The Constitution and our other founding documents at that age, as well as our form of government, and I grew from that point to where I love our founding documents and understand that they are sacred documents, consecrated by God. I am not going to change my behavior or thinking or way of interacting with others just so that I don't bore/scare/push away younger people.
The younger generation needs to (and will be forced to eventually, at some point) gain enough maturity to understand the importance of history, of our founding documents, our founding fathers, and of all of their ancestors and the critical things those people did, both good and bad. Many are starting to gradually learn about these things, just as their parents and grandparents did when they were young. The worst thing that we can do for your generation is to approach them and interact with them completely on their terms as you seem to imply that we should. All that will do is to provide confirmation in their minds that their current perspective is correct, and the rest of us are all just old, feeble-minded idiots who simply don't understand anything about the modern world. They need to be jolted out of that way of thinking, not made to feel even more comfortable remaining in it.
I'm glad to see that you are one of those young people who has started to understand that there are more important things than you realized before, and that you have begun the process of maturing and growing out of the self-absorbed and self-centered way of thinking that is the bane of all young people from every generation throughout time. Keep growing!
I came to the comments to say what you said, but you had already said it.
I spent my 30s learning what a dipshit I was in my 20s and how much time I wasted back then.
Wanted to make this point too. OP sounds like I probably did at one time, but if there’s one singular thing I’ve learned since then: you can’t control what people say or do, it’s foolish to try, and it tends to reflect worse back at you if you try it.
That principle basically is how the cabal operates - get everyone into an emotional frenzy, then create conditions so everyone in opposition “looks bad”. You don’t control the narrative by playing their game by their rules, you do it by showing everyone how stupid it all actually is.
This is great insight. Fantastic comment and advice for all of us to think about.
And the importance of " this time" in history
Yes.
It's very hard to get people who aren't religious to think the world revolves around anything else. We're kind of taught from day 1 that truth is something people construct to justify empowering themselves. So everything goes down to self interest.
And that's where it all went wrong for you.
Ditch that premise all together and there might be hope yet.
So then it should be self evident why meeting people like that 100% on their own terms in order to try and lure them to support you and your cause is about the worst thing you can possibly do. Sooner or later they will all learn that they are not the most important thing in the universe, and that God is real, and that there are far more important things to consider than just what they want to eat for dinner tonight. Some will learn quickly, some (like me) will be thick-headed slow learners that have to learn everything the hard way, and some won't learn until after they pass from this earth. But everyone has to learn the truth eventually, and WILL learn it eventually. What good does it do to help them remain in their ignorance longer just so you can try and attract them to your cause? Help them to learn the important truths faster if they will let you, if not then just stay out of their way and let them learn on their own the hard way. Don't waste your time and sabotage your own efforts by trying to pursue them while they refuse to leave their own little self-centered world.
If they say the Constitution is outdated. Then they don't understand that it's meant to be a simple guideline on how to keep people's rights.
It’s not outdated. It’s not being followed.
In the EPA ruling Judge Roberts said that if the ruling stands as is, that means 90+% of the federal government is unconstitutional.
When do we find out if it stands?
It has. It was the EPA ruling. Roberts made the statement in his decision please. The federal agencies are overarching and writing their own laws without congressional approval. Mandates. Regulations. Directives. They aren’t laws.
Only congress can write laws. Every agency has an armed enforcement division and a “swat team” like division. But congress didn’t write the regulations they are enforcing with violence. It’s illegal.
Ah… I see.
I wonder why Trump doesn’t harp on this ruling.
He’s too busy taking claim for the vaccines.
The problem seems to be more with the government structure itself. The two party system with elections and especially the Congress. The back and fourth. Each side wants to win for good, not be locked into a silly political game forever.
That's because of complexity my friend.
The reason why I have come to like the Constitution is due to how simple it is.
The Cabal thrives off of confusion. The best way to confuse a people is to make government very complicated.
Look at our policies for example. Some of them are 900 freaking pages. Not only are they 900 pages.
If the common person reads the bill. They won't understand all the legal speak.
When younger generations say that our Constitution is outdated. What the says to me.
They would replace it with something that is way more complicated to understand.
Which will give rich people the advantage.
We need to shrink down our government. We need to make our laws 1 to 3 pages that speak so simple. That a kid could understand it.
Everyone needs a constant (rock) in their lifes. The Constitution is that rock.
yea, responsibility and consequences really suck. Tinkerbell never wanted to grow up either - but that was Never Never Land
And this is different from every generation in history because why?
Check out The Great Depression of the 1930s, with millions out of work, homeless, and with almost zero public assistance compared to today. THAT generation had a very different response to the difficult economic environment. In short, the harsh economy isn't the only factor shaping opinions of the younger generation; the particular (and not helpful) attitude you describe is shaped by relentless Marxist propaganda in schools, in the media, and pretty much everywhere.
"Turning to socialism" and seeing "productivity in a negative light" are hugely counter-productive, because productivity is what CREATES WEALTH, and socialism -- rewarding the non-productive and penalizing the producers -- DESTROYS wealth.
You know that, clearly, and your Point 4 is an excellent response -- honest and direct talk is necessary and "politician speak" needs to be laughed off the stage.
Freedom allows and encourages the creation of wealth; consider Hong Kong, which went from severe poverty in the 1950s to top-tier wealth under the British because the Brits gave Hong Kong far more economic freedom than they gave their own people back home in England. Or check out China's rapid rise from starvation and poverty under Mao to economic powerhouse once (relative) market freedoms were instituted.
Freedom rewards people for doing the hard work of creating wealth, which is how the West got wealthy in the first place.
Believe me: a LOT of hard work went into creating the wealth of America (which has nearly all been siphoned off now by massive government, corporations, and individuals USING government coercion -- such as corporate give-aways and regulations, the military-industrial complex, and a thousand other things).
We need to convey the truth about freedom to people. That's actually what the Great Awakening is all about -- we're not trying to wake people up to the wonders of tyranny, because there aren't any positives to tyranny. Socialism and other forms of tyranny are just ways to destroy prosperity for the masses while enriching those at the top. The destruction can happen slowly (as it has until recently in Europe and America) or rapidly, as it did in Venezuela and Zimbabwe, but the destruction itself is inevitable.
FREEDOM is what creates a better world, not only because being free feels better than being under the boot-heels of tyrants but because, by rewarding effort (i.e., a free market) instead of stifling it, prosperity is created.
But make no mistake: effort is required. Wealth doesn't appear by magic.
You want something great and exciting? Who doesn't, really? As it turns out, America's Founders did also, and created a nation and a movement that electrified the entire world. A lifetime of modern anti-America, anti-freedom propaganda has created a common bias against the idea of genuine freedom, but listen to Thomas Paine's electrifying tone in what has been called "by far the most influential tract of the American Revolution":
Vigilance is the price of freedom. Americans have been taking our freedom for granted for too long. We've been intentionally lulled into a comfortable ignorance. Drugs, pornography, sports, and mass media keep us distracted. Division is amplified around certain topics such as abortion to distract us from the real issues we should be focusing on.
What I'm trying to say is, the younger generation is doing exactly what they've been groomed to do; Engage in immoral behavior and assume they deserve things without having to work for them. Billions are spent to keep people believing they deserve anything they want, no desire is too perverse, and fulfillment should be immediate. Once you realize the entire system is rigged to keep you complacent, your entire attitude will change.
Freedom is not guaranteed to us. It is our responsibility to stay vigilant to protect it. I'm sure the founding fathers would have rather tended their farms and spent time at home raising their children, but they were called to be more than that. They answered that call and now it's our turn.
The younger generation needs to get over their 'feels good' indoctrination, and pull on their big girl panties.
I'm a boomer and needed to hear that. However, my daughter is gay and my son is a very famous EDM star and both are just as awake as I am and they awoke by themselves... with very little influence by me. Good DNA I guess.
Thank you for a thoughtful post. This is just my opinion, but I’ve been thinking a lot about what things will look like after the fall of the cabal. I’ll follow your points.
What you will get is a truly fair shake. Without the manipulation of the globalists wages and benefits will be equitable for each job. President Trump has telegraphed this in his posts and demonstrated it is possible in his first term. In other words you will enjoy a reasonable standard of living working a standard work week.
You will get your wish. President Trump not only preaches peace, he achieved it. The only caveat is he does use the peace through strength rhetoric. More importantly his first term opened the eyes of a lot of older conservatives about the Uniparty’s love of war. Eventually, and soon, voters on the left and right will come together to put a stop to endless wars.
It’s difficult to appreciate something that you’ve never experienced. Ironically the things you describe as being “institutionalist” will feel new and exciting, and probably a little scary because we’ve never really lived the way our founding intended. No one living has.
Also, even if you won’t like hearing it, you and your generation have been conditioned to see the Constitution as a barrier to what you want. But, it isn’t. It is a barrier to Federal Government taking over your life and violating your rights as an individual. Just curious, can you name something you want that the Constitution prevents from happening?
Yeah Trump appeals to the common man because he speaks to them like a common man rather than speaking to us "plebs" like an elementary school teacher.
Yes. Well stated.
Here's another whinner
https://freedomherald.com/9to5-tired/
Stop giving free government handouts and maybe they will learn that if they want to eat and have a food over their head they need to work.
maybe stop letting pedophiles siphon all our money for their child market first?
then we can focus on getting innocent people jobs, instead of forcing them into crime and/or starvation
I think most people I know would be homeless if they weren't being supported by their parents. Entry level pay just isn't enough to support any life that people would prefer over suicide.
It sounds like most people you know have made poor career decisions or have unrealistic expectations. The solution is for them to accept personal responsibility for their choices, learn from their mistakes, and recognize that the images on television, movies, and social media are fake.
Doesn't that just fit in with the depopulation agenda.
You are controlled and conditioned to do their bidding.
I blame parents for supporting the children. Make them get a job: go to trade school, if college is not feasible. Employers still want someone with a college degree before a high school diploma or drop out. A 2 year college is affordable. Instead many parents are still paying for food and housing of adult children, while they spend the entire day on social media or gaming. Maybe it isn’t the job you want, lower your expectations. You have to expect to start low until you have work experience and prove yourself. In California, McDonalds pays $20/hour. How fair is that for someone with a college education who is making $34 or $40/ hour?
Well, nobody but (you) the OP is gonna see this comment. Presumably. Just want to say I'm a bit surprised at the amount of division here. My experience with gen z is opposite of the consensus here. Millennials seem to be what is being described by most. Zoomers I've met are really pretty intelligent and open to polite debate (even if they are "liberal"). Maybe because I'm in heavy red and rural area it skews my perspective. idk. Hate and disdain aren't going to solve a thing though.
I think you're dead on. Zoomers generally lean liberal but we're also a lot more open minded when it comes to different ideas.
Good post. It is an imperative topic for people to understand. Gen Z is the future of the country post-Trump. Division must be eliminated, including generational division.
the idea is the ability and freedom to choose what work you do. the work we do on this website is voluntary. people get paid far more to contribute far less to the world.
man, everyone knew 9/11 was used as an excuse to take away freedoms and keep the money flowing. take care of your own first, but we can recognize the difference between genuine patriots and parasitic human-sacrificing cultists in any country
you mean a constitutionalist? the constitution is dope. and while i can agree with the need to eventually evolve past our traditional form of government, i think it would be helpful in the shorter term to at least hold it to its own standards.
full agreement. but again, not quite yet. our corrupt politicians need to go out with a bang, and also not leave a void for whichever warlord or autonomous zone BS happens to come along.
haha just ask me if you wanna hear about a potential future ideal for politics
I'll ask. What's your take?
not necessarily my take, just one i enjoy.
Q: I'm curious to know about the social organization of your planet. How are you all organized?
B: The idea is simply that we are a spontaneous civilization now. We have elevated, what you call, trust, to an art form - in a positive sense. The idea simply being that we no longer need, what you would call, a government as such, a political system as such, an economic system as such, because we interact directly with each other individually and in groups; more in the format now that you would call a network.
In a sense it is our perception that your government, in time, or what you call your governments upon your planet, will take on more of the aspects of what you now call networks. Where you will facilitate individuals in contacting other individuals - those that have services, those that have needs.
The idea of our Association is not so much a government, nor exactly what you might call a Federation, for that still implies to some degree a governmental structure similar to the one you know. The idea is that it is a networking body, a serving body, that puts intelligence in line and in touch with other intelligence, that matches spontaneously need for need, service for service. And that is much the way our society interacts.
We have no need for a medium of exchange, because every individual that has a service, automatically attracts every individual that needs that service. And every individual that needs that service that is attracted automatically, brings with them a service that the first individual needs.
Everything is run by what you would call synchronicity, co-incidence - because that is the way life works. Because life is a holographic matrix, wherein everything is connected to everything else, automatically.
When your attitude knows that, when you focus on that particular structure, then that's the way you experience life and you do not need what might be called a reference structure, in order to organize things. Things organize themselves, and the government becomes one that serves rather than rules, allowing the flow to take place.
At any given moment, as we have said, our population is exploring in spacecraft and interacting with other civilizations and exploring many aspects of the universe; very few of us remain on the surface of our planet at any given time. Our planet is very green, as you say, park-like, in your language. There are no large built up structures upon our world, no large cities as upon yours.
The idea for us is not necessary, since the spacecraft in which we live, many times, are the cities themselves; many of them being many miles of your counting in length, and holding what you may call, tens of thousands of individuals.
There are only approximately two hundred million, in your counting, of our permanent population anyway. Our numbers are far lower than yours. The remainder of our population are those beings that simply as you say, come and go - that are not a permanent member of our society. Sometimes individuals are popping in and out, taking for the moment our corporeal form to experience our particular civilization, and then flashing back into energy. And sometimes there are other beings from other societies, who choose to spend some time upon the surface of our planet, interacting with many different members, both of our species and of others.
This is, in general, the idea of our lifestyle. It is very spontaneous, very joyful, very ecstatic. We are always exploring, always learning, always growing, always having a good time. (AUD: laughs) Will this do?
Q: Sounds interesting. What about the non-conformist? Is there such a thing?
B: /Everyone/ is a non-conformist. (AUD: laughs) And because everyone is allowed to be the fullest individual they can be, then we have great unity.
Q: Does that agree with a one-mind concept?
B: Understand that it is a misunderstanding in your society that one mind means a blandness of individuality. The idea, just like the person you are, is that when each and every one of your consciousness parts, when each and every one of your personality parts is as strong and equal to every other part it can be, then you function as a whole being.
And so, it is like that in a society - when the individual is the strongest individual they can be, then you have unity. For everyone is equally validated for the individual they are. And therefore, paradoxically, everyone supports the totality of all the other individuals that exist, and supports the idea of each and every being, being the strongest individual they can be.
So unconditional love is the key that allows us to function as one mind, and at the same time allows us to operate as distinct and variegated individuals. Understand?
Q: So there's no disagreements among...?
B: There are always different points of view, but the different points of view do not, in your terms, impede from the general flow of our positive progress. There is never disagreement in the sense that it holds things up. There can be different points of view, different approaches - but you see, to us they're all valid. So, if three individuals have three different points of view and three different approaches - we do them /all/. (AUD: laughs)
Or, if they finally allow themselves, by trying them all - as I use your term for now, trying - to simply come to the understanding that what one individual or another individual did is perhaps not as efficient as what the third individual came up with, then in recognizing that, the other two will probably align themselves with the third one.
Again, everything is done spontaneously, in a very obvious and conscious and willing manner. There is no need for argument as you call it, because all points of view are valid and we can learn from all of them. Understand?
Q: Yes.
B: Does this assist you?
Q: Yes, it does.
B: Well, thank you very much for /your/ point of view and your sharing.
Q: Thank you.
B: Thank you!
Well that paints a picture. kek. Nice read. ThanQ
It seems like the most likely thing is a shorter term dictatorship followed by some completely new system. Like the Roman Empire.