We've decided against them for our most recent child and when scheduling an appointment the nurse told us that if we don't vaccinate then they won't see us.
Is this a widespread issue? Is there a website or resource for finding pediatricians that will see unvaccinated children?
We didn't vax, so we had no need for a pediatrician. We use walk-in clinics or ER's for bone fractures or stitches. Otherwise, if the children are growing and thriving, we have no need for doctors who get paid bonuses for high rates of fully vaxxed children in their offices.
That's my feeling as well regarding doctor visits. My wife isn't fully persuaded on this topic so I was hoping to find a doctor that will do a simple "check-up" as a peaceable solution to help her be more comfortable.
If you are in the U.S. just go to an "urgent care". Its cheaper, easier to schedule, and no vaxxx questions are ever asked. They'll do everything from routine checkups, to serious viral treatments, to sports physicals. I'm a dad to a young boy and thats the only place I'll take him anymore. No more pediatrician.
Check out Osteopathic doctors. They've got the same level of training but are often holistically minded and respectful of vaccine choice.
Well done!
What do you need one for, well checks? Because they aren't in any way necessary. You can track the growth of your child yourself, and the well checks were created around vaccines anyway. That's the whole point of them. You don't need that. If you child gets sick go to a walk-in, much better service anyway. None of my kids are vaccinated. We had a pedi for my first born, for a few months until i realized the appointments were always scheduled around vaccines and even though we didn't get them, we were always pressured. It was a complete waste of time, she was growing just fine and never sick. So we stopped going. We stopped participating completely in this fraudulent "healthcare" system over a decade ago, we have no doctor and dropped our insurance. In that time we got sick a total of 0 times, and I broke my arm and went to a specialist with cash in hand to get it taken care of. Easy as pie. In fact, since dropping insurance, we've managed to build a 6 figure savings account in just over a decade. Do the math. Insurance premiums are making you poor. Just save the money yourself instead.
Learn your rights , Bill Gates children have had zero vaccines thier entire life. You may even have to homeschool them, to avoid their system. But I gotta point out that nowhere can there be found a unvaccinated child with autism, or Cancers and let these doctors know that they aren't all that and a bag of chips, remember they went along with the COVID hoax. They are not any smarter than you and I. Welp , maybe me😆
Doctors cannot FORCE you to do anything. THEY are not in charge of your health. You can AND SHOULD say "no" if you're being pressured. You can refuse prescriptions. You can refuse return visits.
Dentists: same thing. You can refuse any treatment they tell you that you need. I went to a dentist in the Seattle area (temp job) for a cleaning ahead of Invisaligners. Up front information: I am 54 yo and have NEVER had a single cavity or crack or ANY dental work besides orthodontics in my youth. The dentist has never seen me before. Says she has found 3 dark areas that she thinks could be cavities, so she was going to drill them and fill them. I refused. She got upset. I said "you admittedly have no idea what those spots are or how long they have been there or if they are getting worse and you think I'm just going to let you drill into them?" She got butt-hurt when I refused and told her that all I wanted was a cleaning.
I got my cleaning and left.
Great that you have a spine. Most people don't.
So many people have farmed out their logic/thinking/reasoning skills to other sources so they don't have to spend their time on it. We have placed our trust in people we thought had our best interests in mind, when they really only ever intended to control and manipulate us. Doctors are no better: take these drugs to fix your troubles, come back for more drugs to fix the problems caused by those first drugs I gave you. You have bad cholesterol, you're overweight, you've got low white blood cell count, your body mass index is bad, so on and so forth. I haven't been to a doctor in well over 5 years and I feel great. Why would I go for a checkup if I feel fine? If my teeth don't hurt, why would I let someone drill into them? I don't buy into their fear peddling.
*** financial incentives for docs to jab your kids:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/05/joseph-mercola/is-this-why-pediatricians-push-vaccines
Some resources here that I hope will help you:
https://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/personal-choice/find-a-vaccine-free-doctor/
I'm aware of the corruption and bribery that goes on to push these things on us. Thank you for the links.
I'm sure its more common than it should be, but lots of doctors should be willing. You might need to find a smaller office, especially one who has joined the growing trend of cash only doctors who do not take insurance.
The main issue is doctors who rely on reimbursements, etc being told that unless they enforce stuff they won't get paid.
It is much easier to find a General that leans more alternative than a Pediatrician. Most of them march in lockstep to whatever recommendations the American Academy of Pediatrics lays down - which is bought and paid for by Pharma. Hell, my parents didn't take us to a Pediatrician - we saw the same family doc that my parents did. Why does anyone think that they must see a specialist for their kids? There is the first mistake. For most issues, a General Practice provider works just fine. That would be my recommendation.
Thank you for the recommendation. We'll keep looking around. I realize at the doctor level it's primarily about money.
Find a Naturopath or Osteopath... praying for your family! 🙏
This is what we did. No pressure to vax and the office atmosphere is more casual as well, not so scary for young ones.
Yay...glad you had one available in your area!
Yeah I agree with the below commenter. Why do they need to go to a doctor at all unless they are sick. If they are sick take them to a clinic dont worry about your regular doctor obviously hes an ass.
No- Do Not Comply.. California/ Forced Vaccination State/. I told the Doctors we Refuse to Vaccinate-. We have worked with programs to have his Doctor (Pediatrician) Eye Doctor & Dentist all on board, while getting him exemptions to enroll in school..
(It will take some Work & a lot of phone calls… Never Waiver & Stand your Ground.
While this is for covid related providers, it's worth a shot looking into if they do regular check ups too. FLCCC was #1 in fighting back against everything covid and actually saving people.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/providers/
There are doctors out there.... Don't give up hope. It's most likely your children don't need to see a pediatrician anyway. Pediatrician doctors are better known for being Vax☠x quacks. You have options. After my first born, we quickly learned we didn't need a pediatrician doctor. It was an empty return on the dollar. After that, we said F-that. We went without. If they get sick and your concerned about their illness, take them into the Minute Clinic to get checked out. If your kids are in perfect health, happy, playful, and full of energy, stay away from the doctors. Don't try to fix something that already works. Find a good homeopath and for wellness protocols. Try to limit your kids gluten intake, focus your goals on organic foods, local grown, and cook meals that you have control over the contents. Oh yea, limit the sweets.
my wife used a somewhat typical doctors office in a shithole area of a shithole state (Massachusetts) and they have not had any issue fortunately with our 3 kids vax status. in fact everytime they see the kids once every year or six months for routine checkups, whatever it is, the doctor says to my wife kindly & jokingly that they wish the kids would get sick more often so they could see them more often. I can see reading this that it could be read the wrong way and as if they really do want the kids sick, but I trust my wife's sensibilities that they really do love the kids and don't want them sick
reality is, we don't need these checkups or a doctor for the kids. they are all healthy as you could imagine, not allergic to anything, no ADD/ADHD, intelligent, ...
the most rewarding choice I made in my entire life has to be not getting them vaxxed! I did lots of research on vaccines but only when I was having my 1st child and boy am I glad I did. my wife took a leap of faith with my various research conclusions. another of which was insisting we find us a home to live in where the potable water supply is not laced with fluoride
Here's a great video detailing why the vaccines on the childhood schedule should never be mandated on anyone. Not sure if your provider would ever change their mind, but at least you can say you tried. Then if they still refuse you can come back here and let us know who they are so we can all boycott them.
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/protecting-vaccine-exemptions-with-ican-lead-attorney-aaron-siri-2/
Find a Functional Medicine doctor. They are MDs, but they take a more natural approach and many are suspicious of vaccines. Many are Christians. They can give you a prescription if you need one, but they try to treat you in a more natural way at first, if feasible.
I have had more success with D.O.s
(1) "Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA)"
https://www.cms.gov/medicare/regulations-guidance/legislation/emergency-medical-treatment-labor-act
(2) https://www.healthline.com/health-news/will-unvaccinated-people-face-barriers-to-medical-care#The-bottom-line
"Anyone who goes to the emergency room, regardless of whether they’ve been vaccinated or not, must be examined under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act (EMTALA), which requires anyone coming to the ER to be treated regardless of their insurances status or ability to pay."
"Although private physicians can choose which patients they see, health experts do not expect many to deny care to unvaccinated patients."
"Doctors have a moral and ethical obligation to treat all patients, regardless of their beliefs or behaviors."
What you might do is tell the nurse you will be reporting their practice to the ethics board for denying treament based on beliefs and behaviors.
If everyone did this, the change will happen.
At the very least the ER, urgent care clinics, other clinics will not turn you down. Ask a friendly one for a doc who isn't vaxx greedy.
Boom- EMTALA should be used!! Go to the ER and demand to be seen- they can only triage you and make you wait- Everybody else is abusing the ER, might as well use this as an opportunity!
Yeah this is an issue and i get where you’re coming from. My youngest (born since covid) we decided not to give any vaccines (or vit k shot etc) and our pediatrician kicked us out of their practice and wanted us to sign this stupid refusal form from the AAP. We didn’t sign it (it was basically a one sided contract with lies as assumptions).
It was one thing getting my wife on board with not vaccinating but then adding to that not going to see a doctor for newborn checkups was another level.
To find a pediatrician, you can try looking up Dr Green Mom and look for their resource on finding a “vaccine friendly” doctor, there was a list that you. Eeded to enter your email for. we were able to find one but need to drive almost an hour and called probably 30 pediatricians that all refused to see us before we found that list.
Good luck!
The pediatricians are raking in insane amounts of money to vaccinate EVERY child. These demons should be hung. They can rake in 1/2 to 3/4 Million per year at YOUR child's expense.
Some pediatricians make 80% of their $ from the vaccine schedule
I found one for my twins born last year. Look for “vaccine friendly” establishments. They will vax if you want it, but won’t mention them again once you say you don’t want them. We have to drive about 30 minutes to get there, but it’s worth it. I found mine by searching for on nextdoor.com.
You can also go to any doctor and tell them you want to delay vaccines and just keep delaying them forever. Just make them believe you might do it next time, then don’t.
Thank you for the link, I'll check it out. That's clever about delaying too. Could definitely give that a try.
That's discrimination and against the civil rights act. Sue.
What you need is to find a direct primary care practice. This is a good resource: https://www.dpcare.org/
This is a different model where these practices do not accept insurance, but instead typically a monthly fee and all visits are included. You pay fees for treatments and X-rays and such but it’s very reasonable prices.
We had this exact problem when we decided to stop vaccinating our kid, we got kicked out from our pediatrician practice, because insurance companies required the pediatrician to have all kids vaccinated, so we were forced to find an alternative.
Thank you for this information.
My friend asked for the 1983 schedule so it’s minimal shots, I think less than 20% of the current schedule
All vaxxines are harmful and they do not work. There is no such thing as a safe vaxxine.
Not true. Yellow fever vaccine works fine. In fact most vaccines given in third world actually save people. The issue with American vaccines is too many are often given at the same time. This overwhelms the body and makes it harder to overcome the response or even cause unnecessary side effects. Personally I give only allow them to do one shot at a time. If you do it like this. You can track any bad vax and sue.
There is no such thing as a safe vaxxine. The premise may sound good for certain diseases, but in reality, the devil is always in the details. Vaxxines are loaded with things that are toxic and harmful to the body that have never adequately been studied or tested for use in humans - much less when added together in multiple injections. They contain heavy metals, squalene, glyphosate, formaldehyde, antibiotics, human fetal cells, GMOs, animal proteins and DNA, glyphosate, and other substances that are potentially dangerous when injected. There is often various rouge genetic material left over from the manufacturing process that does not get filtered out. The effects of this genetic soup has also never been adequately studied. Even the WHO, if you can believe it, had to admit several years ago that the effects of adjuvants in vaxxines on humans has NEVER been properly studied. Most of the so called trials for approval of common vaxxines are either lacking or highly flawed and never address the adjuvant issue.
Adjuvants are added to deliberately irritate the immune system and illicit a robust response. This is not a natural immune response to a pathogen. The normal immune response is triggered comprehensively through typical points of entry - skin, lungs, etc. Our immune system in response to a pathogen does not use antibodies alone. This also includes the separate immune system of the brain. Compounds like glyphosate, in very small amounts, opens up the tight junctions of the blood brain barrier that then allows heavy metals and other lingering proteins to enter the brain that would otherwise normally be stopped. Glutamate, part of the brains defenses, spikes after vaxxines. In most people, that response calms down. But in others, especially people with conditions like autism, glutamate levels remain high in the brain well into adulthood.
As far as the foreign vaxxines, it is not uncommon that there are other agendas at work with those vaxxines - think tetanus, polio, etc. - targeted at young women to sterilize them or the vaxxine actually causes the very disease they claimed to be fighting. Many of the foreign vaxxine programs run by GAVI and the WHO are using bad lots that are either expired or too contaminated to be used in Western countries. Heaven forbid these greedy pharm companies should lose money. These populations in third world countries are used as Guinea pigs in ways that can't be pulled off in wealthier countries. In this way, they are better able to hide the side effects. The rampant corruption of these poorer countries allows these vaxxination programs to flourish. I know people that almost died from a Yellow Fever vaxxine.
We have even experimented on our own military using illegal ingredients and God only knows what experimental cocktail protein mix - all in the name of national security. Look into the issues of illegal squalene given to our soldiers - one of many incidents.
What has been found in the Covid jabs is now opened the eyes for many researchers to take a second look at all the other vaxxines out there - especially the ones we give our kids. No one has been paying attention to what is actually contained in those damn jabs and for years it has been taken for granted that the research for safety and efficacy are there - but it is not. I worked in research and have been screaming about this for years. I personally have my own vaxxine injury story over a flu vaxxine. That is when I started to look into the vaxxine issue. As a researcher, I was horrified at what I found, and what I didn't find. Fluoride is another topic that lacks adequate research. The whole industry has been getting away with pushing poison on the world's population for decades.
The entire vaxxine program around the world needs to be stopped and rethought. I am not against vaxxines per se - I am against unsafe vaxxines. So far, they don't make any safe vaxxines and one is playing Russian roulette taking them. And as far as filing a lawsuit because of vaxxine injury, under the current National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (NCVIA) passed in 1986, no vaxxine manufacturer is liable for damages associated with their products. Therefore, there is no one to sue if you or your child is injured. Ask any parent of a vaxxine injured child. I saw enough vaxxine injured adults and children in my practice to convince me never to give anyone a vaxxine. You cannot undo a vaxxine.
Why do you need them to see a doctor? Are they injured?