Boundaries are determined by wars. The Ottoman Empire lost the war. The Arab countries lost the wars. The Palestinians will lose this war. But it is part of the bigger plan that many of the Arab countries signed on to.
No, it's not entirely accurate. In 1947, the population of "Palestine" was 2/3 Arabs and 1/3 Jews. Over the decades, Arab countries invaded Israel several times and lost every war. Israel gained territory in those victories but also gave up a lot for the sake of peace. So while it looks like Israel accrued more land on paper, the reality is they only gained land after being attacked.
Palestine has been Arab and proto-Arab Christian for 2000 years before the Zionist project started transporting European Jews over to a completely foreign land. The Arabs were living in Palestine under the Ottomans.
The Islamic Arabs are relatively recent arrivals--from Arabia, hence the name. The Canaanites, Jebusites, Philistines, etc. from the Bible are NOT "Palestinians".
It's actually an ongoing expansion and contraction between Islam and Judaism. The Middle East was once home to a myriad of peoples, cultures, and religions. Now it is mostly Arabs and Islam. The other people didn't emigrate. Western countries, including in the Americas, are beginning to undergo the same expansion.
That war will never end, been killing each other for millenia. Generations of murdered & lost family members. Exactly the opposite of how we should live
There's 3500 years missing between that picture and our own. What happened in Israel is like if Indian tribes took over the United States and kicked the White people out.
The modern state that calls itself Israel has nothing to do with what was promised in the Bible. The Jews that live in Israel today follow the Talmud, which was compiled by the descendants of the Pharisees. If you accept Jesus then there's a new covenant.
God correctly states 2,600 years ago through Ezekiel:
That he will re-establish Israel (Happens in1948, 1900 years after dissolved by the Romans)
God states that people would accuse him of abandoning his people.
God states that the Jewish people would go after Idols, profane the land, perhaps even the blood means the practice of sacrifice to idols, such as child sacrifice, to idols like Moloch.
God states that that he would re-establish them, grow them.
God states that the Jews profaned his name among the nations.
God states that the Jews were to be dispersed among the nations, this was 700 years before this happened, in 70 AD. 7 is a Divine number.
God states that the Jews would be hated among other nations. The scorn of other nations.
Why do I, A Christian defend Jewish people?
Revelations 2:9, 3:9: There is a "Synogogue of Satan", or a "Church of Satan" and guess what? The call themselves? Jews, but God says "they say they are jews and are not" according to God the Son.
The seed of David != Synagogue of Satan. We must love our Jewish brothers, and make a practice of forgiveness and love, and long suffering against the provocations of the SoS.
Romans 11: This tells us as Christians we are grafted into the tree of life, through the marvelous love and sacrifice of God, and Christ Jesus on the cross.
TL;DR: I have been down the road on anti-semetic feelings; and the Bible changed my mind. Romans 11 + Revelations help one understand. Satan has a bunch of his own pretenders. Strive to love your neighbor. Don't go down the same path I did. The marvelous love of Jesus Christ, the glorious light of Christ: There are good and loving Jews out there and they are coming to Christ more and more. All are one in Christ Jesus. I encourage you to look to the King of Kings!
Not only does God know what happens in the future, God the Son tells about the destruction of the Temple mount in 70AD when the Romans run all the Jews out of Israel, well that they don't kill, In Matthew 24. The Romans renamed the land Palestine, to spite the Jews.
You should read Ezekiel 36. God said they would have the land back.
Ezekiel made that statement approx 2,600 years ago.
Approx 1,900 years ago. The Israelites were dispossessed of their land.
Jesus prophesied this approx. 30AD shortly before his death on the cross for all sins. The Romans in 70AD left not one stone standing on one another.
To spite the Jewish people, the Romans, not the Palestinians, renamed Israel, to Palestine. They did this because the Jewish people revolted.
In 1948, The Prophecy was fulfilled.
Ezekiel 36:8-23
Only a God that can see the future could write these things:
8 “‘But you, mountains of Israel, will produce branches and fruit for my people Israel, for they will soon come home. 9 I am concerned for you and will look on you with favor; you will be plowed and sown, 10 and I will cause many people to live on you—yes, all of Israel. The towns will be inhabited and the ruins rebuilt. 11 I will increase the number of people and animals living on you, and they will be fruitful and become numerous. I will settle people on you as in the past and will make you prosper more than before. Then you will know that I am the Lord. 12 I will cause people, my people Israel, to live on you. They will possess you, and you will be their inheritance; you will never again deprive them of their children.
13 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Because some say to you, “You devour people and deprive your nation of its children,” 14 therefore you will no longer devour people or make your nation childless, declares the Sovereign Lord. 15 No longer will I make you hear the taunts of the nations, and no longer will you suffer the scorn of the peoples or cause your nation to fall, declares the Sovereign Lord.’”
Israel’s Restoration Assured
16 Again the word of the Lord came to me: 17 “Son of man, when the people of Israel were living in their own land, they defiled it by their conduct and their actions. Their conduct was like a woman’s monthly uncleanness in my sight. 18 So I poured out my wrath on them because they had shed blood in the land and because they had defiled it with their idols. 19 I dispersed them among the nations, and they were scattered through the countries; I judged them according to their conduct and their actions. 20 And wherever they went among the nations they profaned my holy name, for it was said of them, ‘These are the Lord’s people, and yet they had to leave his land.’ 21 I had concern for my holy name, which the people of Israel profaned among the nations where they had gone.
22 “Therefore say to the Israelites, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: It is not for your sake, people of Israel, that I am going to do these things, but for the sake of my holy name, which you have profaned among the nations where you have gone. 23 I will show the holiness of my great name, which has been profaned among the nations, the name you have profaned among them. Then the nations will know that I am the Lord, declares the Sovereign Lord, when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
Those words were spoken 2,600 years ago to Ezekiel, by God.
You are most probably living through Ezekiel 37 at the moment.
Boundaries are determined by wars. The Ottoman Empire lost the war. The Arab countries lost the wars. The Palestinians will lose this war. But it is part of the bigger plan that many of the Arab countries signed on to.
No, it's not entirely accurate. In 1947, the population of "Palestine" was 2/3 Arabs and 1/3 Jews. Over the decades, Arab countries invaded Israel several times and lost every war. Israel gained territory in those victories but also gave up a lot for the sake of peace. So while it looks like Israel accrued more land on paper, the reality is they only gained land after being attacked.
This image is more accurate: https://www.wupr.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/20110603_MIDEAST_boundary.jpg
The Generals Son explained that these wars were instigated by Israel, but we already knew that
There was no independent "Palestine". The area was under the Jews, then under the Romans, then under the Ottoman Turks, then under the British.
Palestine has been Arab and proto-Arab Christian for 2000 years before the Zionist project started transporting European Jews over to a completely foreign land. The Arabs were living in Palestine under the Ottomans.
The Islamic Arabs are relatively recent arrivals--from Arabia, hence the name. The Canaanites, Jebusites, Philistines, etc. from the Bible are NOT "Palestinians".
If you search for a map of ancient Philistine, you will find inside its borders a city named Gaza.
Sorry about your narrative collapsing.
Whered the Philistines go?
US doesn’t exist either, under British as well…
Reminds me of the NATO expansion map.
Exactly!! And the ignorance of American education and fear of the ADL keep people from questioning it.
It's actually an ongoing expansion and contraction between Islam and Judaism. The Middle East was once home to a myriad of peoples, cultures, and religions. Now it is mostly Arabs and Islam. The other people didn't emigrate. Western countries, including in the Americas, are beginning to undergo the same expansion.
That war will never end, been killing each other for millenia. Generations of murdered & lost family members. Exactly the opposite of how we should live
This is biblical. Palestine (Philistines) does not own this land.
https://bible.ca/maps/bible-maps-master-index-borders-twelve-12-tribes-israel-promised-land-joshua13-22-conquest-1400BC.htm
There's 3500 years missing between that picture and our own. What happened in Israel is like if Indian tribes took over the United States and kicked the White people out.
Ok. But God gave them that land. God did not give the Indians the United States. It’s not the same. Wrong, but not the same.
The modern state that calls itself Israel has nothing to do with what was promised in the Bible. The Jews that live in Israel today follow the Talmud, which was compiled by the descendants of the Pharisees. If you accept Jesus then there's a new covenant.
I’m not saying it belongs to the Jews there today. I’m saying it does NOT belong to Palestine. Where was the Abrahamic Covenant nullified?
What if their God doesnt exist, and their claims are simply bullshit?
Read one chapter, and tell me.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2036&version=NIV
God correctly states 2,600 years ago through Ezekiel:
Why do I, A Christian defend Jewish people?
Revelations 2:9, 3:9: There is a "Synogogue of Satan", or a "Church of Satan" and guess what? The call themselves? Jews, but God says "they say they are jews and are not" according to God the Son.
The seed of David != Synagogue of Satan. We must love our Jewish brothers, and make a practice of forgiveness and love, and long suffering against the provocations of the SoS.
Romans 11: This tells us as Christians we are grafted into the tree of life, through the marvelous love and sacrifice of God, and Christ Jesus on the cross.
TL;DR: I have been down the road on anti-semetic feelings; and the Bible changed my mind. Romans 11 + Revelations help one understand. Satan has a bunch of his own pretenders. Strive to love your neighbor. Don't go down the same path I did. The marvelous love of Jesus Christ, the glorious light of Christ: There are good and loving Jews out there and they are coming to Christ more and more. All are one in Christ Jesus. I encourage you to look to the King of Kings!
Not only does God know what happens in the future, God the Son tells about the destruction of the Temple mount in 70AD when the Romans run all the Jews out of Israel, well that they don't kill, In Matthew 24. The Romans renamed the land Palestine, to spite the Jews.
Yikes!
Ending is not for everyone especially those super religious. Good luck
The god that give them land is Elohim? How could it turn into world religion if that meant I could be excluded from everything
So “Isreal” is just a symbolic place, USA could be “Isreal” … go figure
In case of land, no one own the land, the Native Americans are better in this case, they believe God give them opportunities to protect the land.
You've got the races mixed up in time. There is nothing Philistine of an Arab.
Read your Samson story carefully. The details give it away.
We discussed this a month ago.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17rSjKkWrm/map-shows-how-israel-has-been-sy/c/
I would assume it is correct (without research)… I am curious what happened before 1946 or last 2000-5000 years etc
Yeah, before Palestine took the land from Israel.
Wow, that is hard… maybe just split half like North and South Korea…
Or just send the Arabs back to Jordan from whence they came.
It's fun to play historical games and see how much (and sometimes how little) the boundaries have changed.
There was that six day war
You should read Ezekiel 36. God said they would have the land back.
Ezekiel 36:8-23
Only a God that can see the future could write these things:
Those words were spoken 2,600 years ago to Ezekiel, by God.
You are most probably living through Ezekiel 37 at the moment.
Thats the past.
This is the future.
https://i.redd.it/heyi3ns6g8ty.png
Maps of the Palestinian landmass 1900-1940
The deal in 1917 was that that land mass would be the Jew Homeland within the Arab League. A sovereign State was not envisioned.
No other way to end the dhimmi status.
Dhimmie => diminuitive ..... interesting how the vowels are retained over language barriers.