President Trump on HIS views of Project 2025… DON’T let the MSM Distort this !!!
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Agreed. I think Christian values in government is fine, but overt religiosity does not belong in government; leave that to individuals. Might get hate for that, but it's too easy to abuse and become overbearing.
I couldn't agree more. Not everyone elected is going to have a strong faith and we can't blindly believe what they tell us. We can't possibly know what's in their hearts. Just look what the Pope has done.
Excellent comment and important sentiment.
Christian values (i.e., the Earthly elements of Christ's teachings) are universal and shared in large part by decent, healthy human beings around the globe. The supernatural elements of Christianity or of any other religion are human attempts to comprehend the incomprehensible, and naturally there are different opinions (and often strong feelings) about that.
But fostering compassion and brotherhood including the protection of children, is easy to understand and REQUIRED for any healthy society.
THOSE elements, the Earthly (and as it happens, scientifically known to be beneficial) elements, must be strongly protected by any government that actually serves the people. That means serious protection of life, liberty, and property rights plus the non-coercive fostering of healthy values.
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I've heard that one of the earlier drafts of the Constitution was that the government could respect no denomination of Christianity over another. I think it's telling that the Founders themselves backed that off to simply be religion. Government mandated religion always becomes rife with corruption.
I think it would be interesting if Christians were allowed to have one nation somewhere on Earth. Even if it was just a small island that’s currently empty. Just to see how well it does.
But it’s not allowed. Other religions, fine. Have a nation. Have an ethnostate. But for Christianity, it’s forbidden and for white people, it’s forbidden. All the authorities of Earth would rise up against a Christian ethnostate and bomb it out of existence.
Why that is is up to everyone to speculate for themselves. My own hunch is that it would have to be destroyed because it would be too good. They don’t want the idea expanding and direct evidence of success would go a long way towards that.
Just look at the Catholic church. You have a man standing in the place of God and is corrupt. That's why God is the head of the church and not some official claiming that they are ruling in the interest of God.
Wasn't Lebanon suppose to be a Christian nation in the middle east? Unfortunately, Islamists made sure that did not happen.
So assuming this experiment succeeds, what happens when non-white people want to join and contribute to this new society? We tell them to piss off or wipe them out?
That's not currently happening?
Perhaps bending over ‘for’ Israel🤷♂️
I have heard that Zionist stooges = Jesuit stooges.. need to do some digging
btw, I made it through Ignatius' letters and was a bit amused. He keeps calling himself a newfag! kek
I didn't see anything in there which rationalizes the point we were debating last month, he just made the statements and continued onto other things (unless I missed something).
Where should I go next? Are there any writings which outline the reasoning behind the doctrine? I'd like to see how they get there if possible!
I'd say they inheret God's nature here, as I will once again reference the very simple concept of a father having a son does not make them the same as one another, but "like father like son" applies instead. Also the authority the Father passed onto the Son after He obeyed Him fully
I agree with these 3 parts more or less. I don't really think we're at odds, perhaps only in dogmatic termonology. I would be interested in walking through the scriptures though, and yes I think I follow 'solo scriptora'. Basically what's in the scriptures is placed higher than what people say about them. The hashing out of what they mean is part of the journey on earth for a believer imo.
I'll have to look into this sola scriptura thing.
Yes wrong, I believe Jesus is God's son not a creation. (He also is, in effect and essence, equal with God since He obeyed God 100%, though He isn't the same being as God.) Carnal example: did a father create his son or beget him. It is a mystery. Mankind was created, God breathed into him making him His son, he listened to satan ate the fruit and died and became satan's son, now through Christ he dies and becomes God's son again but this time is sealed by the Holy Ghost never to die again. It's quite a mystery but maybe rather it's just hard to explain in words. It makes sense to me though
It just hit me that maybe the word 'persons' is the confusing bit about the trinity doctrine. What if that was swapped with 'beings'? This would also lead me to a binitarian view if that's even a word, since I view the Holy Ghost as an extremity / extension of God the Father and not a separate being. I'm sure this will cause a whole new debate lol.
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I thought He promised us salvation and eternal life. He really just said "on this rock I will build my church" which is a statement of fact wrapped in a metaphor which I think needs further digging into also. And it seems I really need that St. Basil huh. Man I have so much to do kek
I'll have to get back to ya!
In truth Israel being what they are they deny Christ. Deny is being against. Anti is being against. So they are by their own admission Anti-Christ.
I do understand what you mean. USA Christian’s have become watered down. Even me acknowledging this is weak compared to what Christianity is meant to be.
Say I don’t know who established this country and it’s constitution without saying…
Edit: Buttwipe strikes again!
I think Project 2025 was intentionally injected into our movement to confuse and conflate Trumps Agenda 47. Its the same tired play from the RINOs and their leftist cohorts, manipulating emotion and using confirmation bias as a weapon. They now have a similar sounding counter they can point to and demonize Trump and Patriots with. On their page they cite a broad coalition of conservative groups and then name drop The Heritage Foundation.
This is a subtle attack on MAGA Patriots and Trump from the "right".
Time for this picture again: https://hugelolcdn.com/i/780272.jpg
Oh yes, the Fed Fags. Nice.
Literally the only person I've heard talk about this is the one remaining token liberal in my friend group.
The Great Reset was the globalist’s attempt to copy The Great Awakening.
yea look at the "advisory board" on project2025 website
Agenda 47 only, baby!
President Trump fucked up with his post. He should have included that his plan is Agenda 47, not project 2025.
It is even more credible, and would have probably gotten quite a few people to check out Agenda 47 out of curiosity. Such an obvious mistake - maybe project 2025 serves some purpose and they don't want to completely crush it yet...
Interesting take...He definitely should have mentioned Agenda 47.
The only agenda I am interested in is the MAGA agenda.
sauze https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/112734594514167050
Whenever he says "I wish them luck" the left loses it, as though he's fully endorsing them and everything they stand for. It's been used to link him to Ghislaine Maxwell, for instance.
It won't matter, they'll still lie about him. Just like Biden is right this minute repeating all the greatest hits: Suckers & losers, inject bleach, convicted felon, etc.
All while he's freshly sprayed with his own orange tint! They never have their own ideas. 😂
Christian People believe israel directs the body of Christian believers. They don't, Christ directs his body of believers. We are members in particular and Christ the head. We serve a risen and living savior.
I don’t know where you got the idea for your first sentence, I’ve never heard it before. The rest of your statement I agree with.
Worshipping Israel and saying that God chose it is also anti Christian. It's written as clear as day in the Gospel, the temple will be destroyed and in 3 days it will be rebuilt, IN CHRIST!!! Universally in Christ, all who have been baptised in Christ are part of his body, which is the new temple. I've argued with so many good Christians over this. If they had accepted him, yes, it would have remained a "holy" city and the home base of Chtistianity. The home base is in the hearts of all faithful, it is not a brick and mortar faith, imo.
True.
It's the Heritage Foundation.
The same behind the toilet paper hoax and the killer hornet propaganda is the same as this.
They come out of nowhere but somehow it spreads.
Last night my 10 yr old grandson asked me if I knew about Project 2025. I told him that I had never heard of it.
Althought everyone this forum is quite aware of things and how things probably aren't as they seem, I feel alot should look Into history. Starting with the scottish Kirk and how they called it. "New israel" the connection to knights templars, masonry lots lots more is hidden there. yes I'm a few templars were devil worshippers (baal) and some even converted to other easterners religions. We have been trying to establish Israel for a very long time even napolean tried an failed.
Also there is a good deep state this is really hard to understand.
As a devout Christian who has a personal relationship with God in Christ, who prays and reads psalms 4 times a day, I do not want my faith anywhere near any group of politically motivated persons to define what my Christianity should be. Living in Christ changes people, there is no need to have civil law change my relationship one way or the other. God gives us free choice to sin or not to, what would be the point if it was turned in to law? God loves us and he wants the love returned, he commands it, but it still remains a choice. Hollow recanting of prayer or citing anything does not require love of God, it just requires compliance of the masses. I do not support atheists when I vote, it is important to me if an elected public servant has a living faith and practices it, but again, that is my choice. And what kind of Christian is government approved? There are so many denominations, does it have to be someone born again, or a cradle Catholic? Will it be a Lutheran or a Russian Orthodox? Havn't we witness enough men who claim to be ordained or holy rollers who have abused children? the Catholics do not have the monopoly on that. I believe Christ will come again and we will be subjects to HIM in HIS Kingdom, until then it's all just civics to me. I want less government, not a different flavor of it.