Will it be retroactive? Unlawful behaviors must not be rewarded. We had our 2nd child in France. He did not automatically have French citizenship. He would have had to serve so many years in the French military for that to occur. So maybe if DJT can’t make birthright citizenship retroactive, maybe he could impose some other form of citizenship, say provisional and outline that certain things must occur with that: no government office, decreased government benefits, etc. Thereby even though not the child’s fault where born, it still doesn’t grant full rights of citizenship and sets them apart. I know this is divisive, but something needs to be done rather than say, “Woopsy you parents broke the law, but you get a pass.”
Problem is, if they are over 18. They were born here, so they are citizens. If their parents are illegal and are deported those now adults can cause a lot of havoc if running for government offices and elected. I think that only natural born citizens should run for government offices. Look at the mess Ilhan Omar has brought to Congress. She apparently lied about her brother to get him into the U.S. The question is, if she lied to immigration authorities, is she even here legally. Also do away with dual citizenship, if you are running for ANY government office: local, state or federal. You must renounce all but your U.S. citizenship to run for office.
There’s been anchor babies since at least the 90’s, and they have their own families or even grandkids by now. Some of those people stemming from anchor babies likely voted for Trump themselves.
Anytime I see a comment online saying “I’m a legal Mexican born in the US and I voted for Trump! All I can think is “oh yeah? Was it your parents or grandparents that were born here illegally?
They have to go back. Because some demographic maps show that even if you deport all the easy illegal aliens, there’s still enough Hispanics in the country that the US will be ethically predominantly Hispanic by 2060.
We need to post this at the new website RKFjr and Trump set up to take ideas from We The People. I registered but am unable to activate my account as it just spins and spins. Hopefully soon enough it will be available.
OK but the very FIRST first thing he does on Day 1 needs to be full pardons for every single J6 patriot being held in hostage hell by this illegitimate government.
Somehow they also need restitution. Many have lost everything: job, home, family, etc. They should be allowed to sue all of those involved in false imprisonment: Congress, lawyers, judges, Capitol Police, abusive prison guards, etc. The scum who placed them there must pay.
Sadly i dont think he can pardon someone like Tina Peters are they were state charges so she will likely die in prison just for exposing 2020 election fraud!!
I'm the son of immigrants who came here not knowing any english. They worked hard did it the legal way. They knew that this place is the land of freedom and dreams, and they respected it by following the law.
The difficult process of becoming a citizen was worth it to them.
Follow the law. If you want to become citizens, respect the country you want to live in. I have 0 guilt about the "hard working people" who want a better life and entered illegally.
You cut corners. Do it the right way and we would be happy to have you in this country. Do it the illegal way, go eat dicks.
I have to keep explaining to Americans why immigrants are the ones most angry about illegal immigration. “You have a wonderful country please protect it bro”
The first sentence of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The part about "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is often left out when citing the 14th as justification for birthright citizenship. The meaning of almost any section of the Constitution could be changed by leaving out or adding words or phrases, but that is not the correct way to interpret a legal document. All words have meaning. I believe President Trump is correct in his assessment and the issue will likely have to be resolved by the Supreme Court.
It is interesting to note that Native Americans were not granted U.S. citizenship until 1924 when the Indian Citizenship Act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge. That was almost 56 years after ratification of the 14th Amendment. They were clearly born in the United States so jurisdiction was the issue making the law necessary.
Exactly. The language must be legally challenged and clarified by SCOTUS. Long overdue. An EO would be one way to get it there and force the court to finally take the matter up. I pray we have had some top notch attorneys already working on building some water tight arguments because we know SCOTUS will try to wiggle out if they can and not resolve the issue.
Like a lot of things Trump is going to do, this will also probably end up at the Supreme Court. They'll once again have to say that the law, or in this case Amendment, means what it says.
The phrase reads, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...
The "and" is there for a reason. It implies that it's possible for only one of those things to be true.
It also implies that both cases must be true before one is considered a U.S. citizen.
So: You could be born in the U.S. but not subject to its jurisdiction.
As in: Your parents are citizens of one or more other nations and therefore subject to that jurisdiction. That makes you, as their child, also subject to that same jurisdiction. Which is not the United States.
That's why just being born on U.S. soil is not enough to make you a citizen.
Im finding it amusing that all these Agenda 47 videos that have been out and on Trumps website for 18 months are suddenly going viral as if they were new.
I doubt it. But they are kids. They will probably have an option to be deported with their parents. Although if we fix schools by the time they are adults they should be well rounded
Will it be retroactive? Unlawful behaviors must not be rewarded. We had our 2nd child in France. He did not automatically have French citizenship. He would have had to serve so many years in the French military for that to occur. So maybe if DJT can’t make birthright citizenship retroactive, maybe he could impose some other form of citizenship, say provisional and outline that certain things must occur with that: no government office, decreased government benefits, etc. Thereby even though not the child’s fault where born, it still doesn’t grant full rights of citizenship and sets them apart. I know this is divisive, but something needs to be done rather than say, “Woopsy you parents broke the law, but you get a pass.”
Doesn't sound like it. But if mom and dad are illegal, they can still be deported. Presumably they'll take their children with them.
Problem is, if they are over 18. They were born here, so they are citizens. If their parents are illegal and are deported those now adults can cause a lot of havoc if running for government offices and elected. I think that only natural born citizens should run for government offices. Look at the mess Ilhan Omar has brought to Congress. She apparently lied about her brother to get him into the U.S. The question is, if she lied to immigration authorities, is she even here legally. Also do away with dual citizenship, if you are running for ANY government office: local, state or federal. You must renounce all but your U.S. citizenship to run for office.
YES to NO DUAL CITIZENSHIP!!!
There’s been anchor babies since at least the 90’s, and they have their own families or even grandkids by now. Some of those people stemming from anchor babies likely voted for Trump themselves.
Anytime I see a comment online saying “I’m a legal Mexican born in the US and I voted for Trump! All I can think is “oh yeah? Was it your parents or grandparents that were born here illegally?
They have to go back. Because some demographic maps show that even if you deport all the easy illegal aliens, there’s still enough Hispanics in the country that the US will be ethically predominantly Hispanic by 2060.
I’m not okay with that.
And leave their children as "Unaccompanied minors?" That would never happen.
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That's what Denatualization is for!!!
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We need to post this at the new website RKFjr and Trump set up to take ideas from We The People. I registered but am unable to activate my account as it just spins and spins. Hopefully soon enough it will be available.
OK but the very FIRST first thing he does on Day 1 needs to be full pardons for every single J6 patriot being held in hostage hell by this illegitimate government.
They just arrested 12 moar
Crime against humanity
Somehow they also need restitution. Many have lost everything: job, home, family, etc. They should be allowed to sue all of those involved in false imprisonment: Congress, lawyers, judges, Capitol Police, abusive prison guards, etc. The scum who placed them there must pay.
Yes
Sadly i dont think he can pardon someone like Tina Peters are they were state charges so she will likely die in prison just for exposing 2020 election fraud!!
He can lean on the gov..withhold federal aid
Let's hope!
I'm the son of immigrants who came here not knowing any english. They worked hard did it the legal way. They knew that this place is the land of freedom and dreams, and they respected it by following the law.
The difficult process of becoming a citizen was worth it to them.
Follow the law. If you want to become citizens, respect the country you want to live in. I have 0 guilt about the "hard working people" who want a better life and entered illegally.
You cut corners. Do it the right way and we would be happy to have you in this country. Do it the illegal way, go eat dicks.
I have to keep explaining to Americans why immigrants are the ones most angry about illegal immigration. “You have a wonderful country please protect it bro”
Kamela was an anchor baby and should never have been allowed to run for President.
The first sentence of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment states: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The part about "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is often left out when citing the 14th as justification for birthright citizenship. The meaning of almost any section of the Constitution could be changed by leaving out or adding words or phrases, but that is not the correct way to interpret a legal document. All words have meaning. I believe President Trump is correct in his assessment and the issue will likely have to be resolved by the Supreme Court.
It is interesting to note that Native Americans were not granted U.S. citizenship until 1924 when the Indian Citizenship Act was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge. That was almost 56 years after ratification of the 14th Amendment. They were clearly born in the United States so jurisdiction was the issue making the law necessary.
Exactly. The language must be legally challenged and clarified by SCOTUS. Long overdue. An EO would be one way to get it there and force the court to finally take the matter up. I pray we have had some top notch attorneys already working on building some water tight arguments because we know SCOTUS will try to wiggle out if they can and not resolve the issue.
Like a lot of things Trump is going to do, this will also probably end up at the Supreme Court. They'll once again have to say that the law, or in this case Amendment, means what it says.
The phrase reads, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...
The "and" is there for a reason. It implies that it's possible for only one of those things to be true.
It also implies that both cases must be true before one is considered a U.S. citizen.
So: You could be born in the U.S. but not subject to its jurisdiction.
As in: Your parents are citizens of one or more other nations and therefore subject to that jurisdiction. That makes you, as their child, also subject to that same jurisdiction. Which is not the United States.
That's why just being born on U.S. soil is not enough to make you a citizen.
Im finding it amusing that all these Agenda 47 videos that have been out and on Trumps website for 18 months are suddenly going viral as if they were new.
I doubt it. But they are kids. They will probably have an option to be deported with their parents. Although if we fix schools by the time they are adults they should be well rounded
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