British PM ignores petition by citizens with 2+M signatures calling for general election.
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🧠 These people are STUPID!
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anything to smear a populist (Nigel). Gawd, I hate the news.
Ya shoulda kept your GUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We never had them in the first place.
You mean the government didn't get the citizens to turn in all their weapons after WW2?
Most people affected weren't the ones who made that decision.
You're right though, not that anyone uses them for that purpose anymore.
Actually you did. Especially the farmers did.
80 years ago we did.
I saw the documentary "peaky blinders"
You guys had em
Documentary? OK then.
Bullshit! You 100% did and gave them up when the government told you to.
100%? Yeah right.
Now they wanna ban knives. Lol.
"Once we outlaw steak, there will not longer be a need for knives"
KEK!
Assault Knives (AKs) are a very dangerous issue. Someone had 47 of them in their home when the police showed up to arrest them for wrong speakthink.
It doesn't matter if they voted for YOU, you're the PM of all of the citizenry, and you have a duty to listen to them and heed their wishes. 100K signatures = debate on the issue.
That's a good point. He has to bring up the point for debate, right?
I knew this would happen, even predicted it in another thread yesterday. Now it is time for the British citizenry to grow a pair. Sharpen your pitchforks and axes and get your torches burning bright. Power from the people is the only thing these politicians understand.
They need a 2nd Guy Fawkes.
…and an Oliver Cromwell.
Blimey. Do you know how much blood was shed in England through that revolution? However motivated, Cromwell made himself a dictator.
They do not need another Cromwell or a Guy Fawkes. They need another Magna Carta, and a Nigel Farage. Wait.... they have a Farage. Pray that the momentum builds...
No thank you. After his death the mob dug him up, scattered his body to the 4 winds and stuck his head on a pike on London Bridge. And then we bought in Charles II.
I can't stand the guy but he's right. What if a few million Kamala voters got up a petition and told Trump to call another election?? Same thing.
The only way the UK gets out of this is to shut everything down and starve out the government. But they won't because most people have to go to work to pay for their house, car, big tv and they're scared to lose it.
Game over for the people of the UK I'm afraid unless something huge happens.
They have a system in place specifically to address these petitions.
That's the difference.
By ignoring it entirely, he is diverging from that system.
All this system says is that it must be accepted for debate in parliament, it doesn't say it has to be debated.
Was it accepted for debate?
The implication is just straight out ignoring it entirely as if it doesn't exist.
Thats right. This is usually accepted on a slow day in parliament when hardly anyone turns up to listen.
100% Right. That's exactly what I wanted to say.
Oh, Lord! Have you NOT been paying attention? Don't you realize that there are shifts underway that have been decades, centuries in the making? The MAGA movement and Trump are just the very TIP of the wave. They are NOT even the main root.
Q triggered a Great Awakening movement worldwide. It's worldwide, my fren. Especially in all the so-called 'developed' nations where the Marxists have been trying to undermine the most. That movement went in to overdrive with COVID 19 (20/21). Things have been set in motion that cannot be reversed. There may be setbacks, but the forward movement is obvious to those with eyes.
Personal opinion. I HATE the doomers who pronounce death over places like the UK, Canada, Australia, etc. Such doomers are NOT looking at the bigger picture. This had to get worse in the US before Trump could return. Things may have to get worse in these nations before they turn the corner, but to say "it's game over" is to hand the game over to the opponent when they haven't even won.
That perspective is NOT helpful in the war we are currently in.
I've been paying attention for the last 20 odd years.
And the UK is fucked. Have you ever been there? Could you even point to it on a map?
I'm a Brit so I know a few things about the place and I repeat they are fucked unless something big happens. I think it will, but I'm old and wise enough to know that nothing goes as smoothly as we all hope so I don't get too excitable.
The king is a big part of the problem now, too. He is a weak and feckless man who is wholly owned by WEF and always has been.
The royals are not just tourist attractions, as so many think. They have tremendous influence worldwide and the "king and queen" sitting there now are doing tremendous damage to the UK.
The real queen did what she could to preserve her nation but she's gone now and you will not see her like again.
kek. I guess it can come across as pretty insulting to write "have you not been paying attention?". So, apologies.
Most of us ARE paying attention, but we have different conclusions or different takes on things. I guess I can acknowledge on a certain level "they are fucked unless something big happens" but I think this is true for every single place on earth, not to mention humanity.
However, personally, I also think that something big HAS happened, to say the least, and I am optimistic about things worldwide.
But I'll also reiterate, I disagree with the whole mentality that adopts the view that [x place] is fucked, or whatever. Certainly in the case of some nations out there, they have been destroyed or screwed. Haiti. Cuba.
I reject those perspectives that say stuff like "its game over" or even "game over unless..." because it is essentially pronouncing a death sentence. It certainly not the "fight, fight, fight" attitude that most frogs love about Trump.
You an acknowledge the very real problems, the difficulties and the obstacles, but pronouncing the death sentence is just blackpilling doomerism, imo.
NCSWIC!!!
What you described is the difference between the UK Parliamentary system and the US Constitutional Republic. In the UK, a general election can be called at any time, while our presidential elections mean we have that administration for four years unless impeached by the House AND convicted by the Senate. Even then, we have an amendment that describes who then succeeds the president.
The situation present in the UK calls for Parliament to at least consider a no confidence vote.
Well, just playing devil's avocado here.
He's right; that's not how their system works. They have an election, the party with the majority gets to choose their leader who becomes PM. The parliament needs to go with a vote of no-confidence to dissolve parliament and then the PM HAS to call an election.
The population of UK is around 68 mil, with perhaps around 50 mil (?) adults, not counting illegal immigrants.
A petition of 2 mil+ is a very powerful message from the public, but it's not enough for the PM to go, dayum, "they hate my guts, I'd better call an election." We know already that these people are not in there in order to serve the People anyway.
Falling support within Parliament, plus added pressure from the population in the form of such petitions and other public efforts, these can all add to force the PM's hand, but a petition alone isn't it.
Imagine if Farage got elected as PM, and some Marxist decided to put up a petition calling for a general election, and got 2 million votes. Would you expect that Farage would or should then call a general election?
Don't get upset that the system is being used by the corrupt, and don't complain when someone correctly says "that's not how system works". Righteous Americans know that the USA is NOT a democracy; it's a republic. A petition of 2 million pushing a PM to call a general election is democracy.
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but we have to ask ourselves if we would support or approve this if the situation were reversed. If Farage or other Trumplian figure were PM of the UK, and an online petition calling for him to resign (ie. call a general election), would you support it? because "that is how the system works"?
I would not.
HOWEVER, there are places where there IS such a system is in place? Yes. In the USA, there are (apparently) 19 states that allow recall elections. So if a state official is screwing up bigtime (or is blatantly corrupt) the 'system' is set up to allow citizens to remove such elected officials.
(Note: of course, if the election system itself has been undermined and corrupted, this negates the effectiveness of such a system. Wasn't Newsom voted to be removed, but they rigged the 'recall election'?)
Apparently, Switzerland also has such a system in place, where citizens can actually vote on policies and proposals by their elected officials.
The system of recall elections should become an inbuilt part of all representative democratic system (i.e. people vote for representatives to govern on their behalf).
Britain doesn't have it.
Just remember, it took DJT and the White Hats 8+ years to build a large enough majority in the US to overwhelm the corrupt system to reclaim authority UNDER the system itself (which we now expect them to begin to dismantle and detoxify). It's going to take time for this wave to impact on other nations.
Even though it is not "how the system works" (the UK PM is actually right here), the petition itself still sends a big message and no doubt increases the pressure in that direction. But for anyone who really expected that such a petition would actually do something like get a PM to call a general election, you might want to put on some reality based glasses. We won't win the war with rose-colored ones.
Hmmmm...
A couple of points?
The 2 main parties differ in how they select their leaders, Labour leaders are selected by a vote of all theirs member nationwide and the Tory leaders are selected by the 1922 committee which are a group of influential backbenchers.
These leaders are selected before an election, not after. Until that toerag Roland Rat became leader before Starmer.
Thanks, Julia.
I was lazy. I know that the leader is chosen before the election. On the other hand, the leader can also be changed AFTER an election (between elections), right?
I did not know about the two different methods of selection, but I'm not surprised.
General question: how do you personally see the role, impact or effect of Farage and the whole brexit thing, on the direction of the UK? And is Farage (and his party) relevant currently?
I can't really answer that as Farage is an unknown force to me, one one hand he is an establishment figure bought up in the midst of the leaders of Britain but on the other he is attacked viciously by them. I don't know if he is a patriot,a trojan horse or a gatekeeper. Sorry I could not be more precise.
That's fine. I was asking for your thoughts and your view, not for facts.
Thank you!
Okay, but when your parents get home be sure to actually tell them about the burglars this time Kevin.
Kevin busted!
Er, flour impregnated with diesel? Don't do that, its a redneck hyperbaric bomb, not recommended at all.
…and their police if the cops protect the invaders over the native born.
Why would they pay attention to anything the people say? They're subjects, not citizens.
Keep ignoring and them and consequences are coming…
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Is it any surprise to anyone hear that Leftists don't give up power willingly? They don't care about honor. They don't care about a "loss of confidence." They don't see what they do as a "service" to anyone. It's a right to them, a right to rule that they possess because they're better people.
It's an ugly reality, but that's how Leftism works. Things have to get extreme to get rid of them.
In our septic isle both parties see themselves as better than the common herd.
tbf, that isn't how their system works
Here we go again. 🇬🇧Brit Tyrant ignores and cannot see a revolution fomenting when there is one. 🙄
I do admire how UK's dictators are so much more eloquent than USA's and Canada's.
It runs until NEXT YEAR. See how he feels when it hits 10million, or see what happens when he cancels it, in fear. Could still bring him down...
My money says that the government is gonna use the hate speech laws to go after every person who signed the petition.
Lol silly citizens
Oh the nerve of those people!
They just won't listen!
LoL
the system doesn't work, thats the whole point.
He should ignore the petition. I'm not backing this guy, but the guy got voted in, assuming no election fraud (which might be a bad assumption). The people got what the majority voted for. Maybe they'll do better at voting next election.
England have a nice few years of a Labor government! If they survive that long
You can’t erase Dictator’s