AI explains why Jesus had to die. ✝️
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The Lord Jesus Christ is not a religion, He is a relationship. He makes that relationship possible by His death, burial, and resurrection. It is a free gift from God. But, you have to believe it to appropriate salvation. Not with a head knowledge of historical facts, but with your heart.
That part
100 percent.
I do believe in Him with all my Heart, but the world is filling our heart with hate, anger and violence.
It’s so hard to fight the urge to hate the ignorant. Those who know and are a part of the evil plan can go straight to hell, but their victims are so brainwashed… can they really be held responsible? I think YES, but I know everyone is different and may wake up at different times.
Thank you for that. Amen.
SOMEONE TELL ME: Why the FUCK is AI being brought up here so much? You couldn't go to church to hear this, you had to have an AI tell you?
AI's are programmed, and controlled, by the programmers. You're putting your faith in programmers and not God. Stop.
Truth can shine through any tool, even a donkey once spoke when God willed it. It’s not about trusting AI, it’s about seeking truth wherever it’s found. If God can use a rock to cry out, He can use tech too.
I'll also post whatever I like and there's nothing you can do about it.
Exactly.
Perfect response.
Precisely, is a sword turned earthward and planted not reminiscent of a Crucifix? Did the priests of the american revolution not use bible pages as wadding for their guns? (Black robe regiment, look it up!). Surely god would condemn such behavior if a tool constructed for one purpose to be turned and used for a holy purpose?
Thats cool, and you can keep letting the AI think for you.
The donkey was created by God, not this AI. It also didn't try to explain the Word of God or anything close to that.
AIs like those LLMs are purely human-made. Tell me, are humans general good, or bad?
Furthermore, this AI is just being fed lines from various sources on the internet. Do you think the internet is mostly right, or mostly wrong and/or lying?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen any case anywhere where the Holy Spirit affects objects. It's only people. Therefor, why should we listen to AI that interprets the Bible, while it's impossible for it to have the Holy Spirit at all? The Holy Spirit is our guide to understanding the Word of God, being dependent of AI in such cases is replacing Him.
i say let the trans humanist worship their false gods. if they cant be arsed to go to church, then let them sit on their asses, let them follow their false idols. let the blind be blind.
I can understand the childlike wonder of playing with a new toy. But the toy here threatens the free will of man by taking the place of a person's reason and thought. OP allowed an AI to interpret the bible for him, when just reading the verses the AI uses as references proves it is sloppy, at best.
You won’t hear it in most “Churches”.
They’re too worried about their “tax free” status to go all in for Jesus.
AI is off the mark (imo)
"It is better to obey the Lord than to offer sacrifices to him. It is better to listen to him than to offer the fat from rams." 1 Samuel 15:22
There are always two ways it could go. This is why the in the Old Testament era ("For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come.…" Matt 11:13) God gave two types of prophesy about Jesus path. One, to be the Lord of Glory, accepted, and two, to be rejected and become the Lord of Suffering. In Matt 11;33, Jesus himself tells us that all of the prophecies before John were only for times up until John (when Jesus lived).
Everything Jesus did in his public ministry for the first two years was focused on getting the people of Israel to believe in him, and to NOT reject him. ("This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent." John 6:29).
If the Israelites had recognized and received Jesus, THIS would have atoned symbolically for the sin of Adam and Eve, who rejected God's word. Unity with Jesus was the necessary offering (obedience).
And recall, Jesus could forgive sin BEFORE he went to the Cross.
So how or why did the cross become necessary? It became a necessary, secondary path because the Israelites rejected him.
God had chosen the descendants of Abraham to be the representative of all humanity. If Israel accepted and united with Jesus (doing his will and following his word), then this would lay the foundation for ALL humanity to receive Jesus. Not just in spirit, but also in the flesh. On this Earth.
With Israel as a people united with Jesus, and then the rest of the world following, the Kingdom would have arrived both in spirit and in flesh, and the ruler of this world (Satan) would have had no where to stand.
But what happened? Israel, as a people, rejected Jesus, and eventually murdered him (by proxy, via Rome). Jesus lamented this situation. ("O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!" Matt 23:37)
This was the gravest of sins. Adam and Eve fell in the garden, in their spiritual immaturity, but humanity rejecting God's son was a far more terrible sin. And therefore, a price had to be paid. The price? The most precious, precious thing. Jesus flesh was the most precious thing in the universe. It took God the creator thousand and thousands of years to bring Jesus' in the flesh. God's own body, recreated in the world. His body was more precious than all humanity.
So a price had to be paid. This is why the cross had to happen. Sacrifice became necessary, because obedience wasn't forthcoming.
At the pivotal time, when Humanity experienced the advent of the Son of God, something God had been preparing for for thousands of years, Israel and humanity as a whole failed, and fell into faithlessness. Again.
So, at this juncture, a second path forward had to be opened. This is the meaning of the Cross. Jesus paid the price for the faithlessness of Israel, who represented all the nations of the world, by sacrificing his flesh. He offered his flesh in lieu of the sin of rejection. Sacrifice, because obedience was not forthcoming. "Believe in him who he has sent..."
What was necessary before that point was simple faith and unity. Obedience. In unity, Jesus could forgive all humanity, even without the torturous path of physical suffering.
And that's why the second coming had to then happen. On the Mount of transfiguration, after two years of endless effort to get Israel to accept and unite with him, Jesus consulted with Moses and Elijah in spirit, and only from that point on did he talk about the cross and the necessity of death and suffering. That was the turning point.
And because Jesus' hand was forced in to a situation where he would offer up his flesh for the faithlessness of the people at that time, the flesh of all faithful believers who follow Jesus is STILL subject to Satan's attacks and influence, even though in spirit, we are saved to a realm in spirit with Satan is not longer master.
Paul cited this situation: (Rom 8:23 "Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.")
Jesus could have adopted us when he was alive, in both spirit and flesh. But when his flesh became a sacrifice, that path was no longer open. This is why Christ must return. To adopt us as his children, in both spirit and in flesh, to redeem our bodies.
The second coming became necessary because God the Father and Jesus had to pay the price for Israel - chosen and prepared Israel - rejecting Jesus Christ. The flesh was offered up as the price for redemption of the spirit, but the flesh still has not been redeemed, because Christ's own flesh had to become the offering. Sacrifice, not obedience.
People forget that Jesus could forgive sins BEFORE the cross. If Israel had wholeheartedly recognized and accepted him, do you think that Jesus could NOT forgive their sins? Their unity with Jesus, in spirit and flesh, would have been enough to open the way to the kingdom both in heaven AND on earth. Right there.
Jesus accomplished spiritual salvation for us, through the cross, and opened up the kingdom in the spirit. But the physical salvation was delayed until the second coming. Clearly, this was NOT the path Jesus preferred.
Just as when the Israelites demanded a king, God reluctantly gave them one through Samuel, even though it was not his preferred way. Their faithlessness forced God to give them a lesser good.
This is like the cross. God wanted all of Israel, and then the world, to accept, embrace, unite with and obey Jesus. When they did not, He had no choice but to offer Jesus's flesh as a sacrifice.
"It is better to obey the Lord than to offer sacrifices to him. It is better to listen to him than to offer the fat from rams." 1 Samuel 15:22
This perspective may conflict with some people's understanding of theology, but we have to remember: we have NOT had the full picture. As Paul said: "Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."
Even Paul recognized that his perception and understanding of the truth was only partial. When Christ returns, he will raise us to a new, higher level. For this reason, we have to learn how to listen.
At least, that's how I understand it.
At the end of the day, however, I resonate with Maude's comment: It's not about religion, its about relationship. And the core of that relationship is heart. The Door of Faith is the doorway into the Realm of Heart where indeed, Christ is King.
Praise God. Thank you Jesus. You paid the price for humanities rejection, and opened up the door to spiritual salvation, and your heart shines eternal. Come soon, oh Lord. Come soon.
I wouldn’t say the explanation is off the mark, but rather, it's grounded in a long-standing Christian view that the cross wasn’t just a reaction to rejection- it was God's redemptive plan from the beginning. Jesus didn’t go to the cross reluctantly, He chose it, knowing what it would accomplish. The cross wasn’t the result of failure, it was the means of victory.
Some of Israel did believe. The Jewish religion rejected him and sought to kill him from the beginning of his ministry. Jesus brought the kingdom with Him, and sent the kingdom to all mankind by faith in His life and reign. There was not another option. The only way to have the kingdom on earth was with the king in heaven and his church ascended to him in the heavens through the Holy Spirit. The death was required so the life could be magnified. Faith in the life and reign of Jesus Christ brings the kingdom of God and Christ to all mankind.
Yes, realm is the same word as kingdom. In the Spirit we are saved. Revelation 14:1 shows king, kingdom, and church reigning over Babylon. Also Revelation 15:2.
Ephesians 2:1-3 shows the kingdoms of the world. The Christian is no longer subject to the kingdoms of the world. The church in Christ is subject to the kingdom in Christ, reigning over sin and dead. The church is righteous in Christ.
Sorry. It would be more accurate to say if the leadership had accepted Him. In Acts 2, over 3,000 Jews, from all over the world, came to accept Jesus after Peter preached, I strongly recommend anyone on this thread to read a book called The Olive Tree Connection by John Fischer . It's essentially an commentary on Romans 11, from a Jewish believer in Jesus' perspective.
Once Jesus made the offering and claimed the spiritual victory through the crucifixion course, he began a new providence completely. The 2000 years from Abraham to Jesus were to prepare a foundation for Jesus to be accepted and obeyed on the national level, by a nation of people. That's the meaning of the 'chosen people'.
But they failed, and in doing so, lost their position.
(“A man planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a wine vat, and built a watchtower. Then he rented it out to some tenants and went away on a journey. At harvest time, he sent a servant to the tenants to collect his share of the fruit of the vineyard. But they seized the servant, beat him, and sent him away empty-handed. Then he sent them another servant, and they struck him over the head and treated him shamefully. He sent still another, and this one they killed. He sent many others; some they beat and others they killed. Finally, having one beloved son, he sent him to them. ‘They will respect my son,’ he said.
"But the tenants said to one another, ‘This is the heir. Come, let us kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.’ So they seized the son, killed him, and threw him out of the vineyard. What then will the owner of the vineyard do? He will come and kill those tenants, and will give the vineyard to others.")
A new providence then began, centering on Christianity, whose fundamental premise is unity with Jesus Christ. After the 3-day crucifixion course, Jesus worked on Earth for 40 days to begin this providence, to lay a foundation of the worldwide level, not just national.
Many then united with him, but not as the Israelite nation, but now as Christians, which are the second Israel.
God's providence works in a precise manner, but a key factor always is the human aspect of responsibility. If humans unite with God, his will for that moment is accomplished. If they reject God and have faithlessnes, then God's purpose is prolonged.
This is why, for example, Moses did a 40-day fast, and why the Israelites wandered in the desert for 40 years. Moses was responsible for raising Israel to the national level on the foundation of the victory of Abraham-Isaac-Jacob. Once Israel arrived in the promised land, then God worked with them leading them to build a foundation where one nation could unite with Christ when he arrived.
When that collapsed, not through God or Jesus failure in any way, but through the collective faithlessness of Israel, God began a new providence wherein a new foundation was being constructed centering on the resurrected Jesus. This is why Christianity is a worldwide religion, and the center of all religious accomplishment. What for? To prepare the foundation so that when Christ returns, the world, as a whole, will unite with him.
That's how I understand it. Yes, indeed, after the Crucifixion, many Jews came to unite with the spiritually active Jesus, but as Christians, not as representatives of the Jewish nation.
If the Jewish leadership had united with him during his ministry, indeed, the whole population would likely have come along. There were multiple failures, none the least, the failure of John the Baptist to fully support and unite with Jesus after his initial baptism of Jesus at the Jordan.
Yes, very well put.
I was simply thinking put loud with you on your great post. ❤️ in Christ
I will never take the word of an inanimate machine when it comes to matters of Spirit. Ever.
Good for you. Fact check it then.
A tool is only as dangerous or divine as the hands that wield it. Technology can help to spread darkness or light. The choice is ours.
“It was a rescue mission driven by love not out of domination but of sacrifice “ Wow. That is beautifully phrased and hits hard. Slow Clap
That is the game changer. Other beliefs ask us to ascend to be worthy. He descended to us to make worthy. He could have been all that those who want to put him in a box was EXCEPT he got up three days after death. The moment our Lord shook off the grave and returned no other arguments no other reasoning could apply. Those today who claim him a teacher, or prophet, or so many other things- That is where all arguments come undone. When the could haves start flying I answer with one IS. He could be many things BUT He is Risen!.
This is exceedingly close to the explanation we were trained in Evangelism Explosion to give (with the Scripture references that confirm it)
that is awesome!
People also forget that there was a covenant(law) that is "The wages of sin is Death" Jesus did not sin yet death still claimed him. That covenant was broken by Satan and Death. Now God can create a new covenant and his blood covers our sin so true death(the second death) cannot claim us.
To quote the movie Nefarious "We thought if we could eliminate Him the world will be ours forever. We had no idea of the consequences.The cross was our greatest mistake."
Pretty good answer. Id give it a 95%
That’s cool
So live any life you want then just ask Jesus for forgiveness at the very end? Bill Gates I have a tip for you! Like I can murder millions of people and then just be like hey Jesus whoops didn't mean it and I'm all good, right? Also Jesus died and literally no one stopped "sinning". I believe in God 100% but it's hard not to see Jesus as a Santa Claus figure for me personally
If the most vile person to live truly turned to christ and repented they will find heaven. It is not up to you to decide who christ saves in the end.
It is simply above your station to make such judgements
That follows the logic of subsituation.
I agree the doctrine is flawed. Jesus Christ brings a kingdom to mankind, a faith to overcome the present evil in the world.
Jesus Christ is not portrayed well by the carnal church. The church in Christ is a spiritual active body that follows Jesus Christ as king.
Ah, no. Let me say it more strongly: "*May It Never Be!" Jesus has a way of ensuring that some fruit of repentance will be seen -and not just by Him. Even the thief on the cross changed from mocking Him to defending Him at a point in time (with the other one as a hostile witness) - and the Persecutor Saul became the Apostle Paul!
That same Paul answers "GOD Forbid!"! to the question you propose: Romans 6:
My prayer: Jesus, Creator of the Universe, please forgive my trespasses and sins. And Jesus-God, please remove the hate I hold against my enemies. They are so, so evil and vile with unspeakable acts against your most innocent and vulnerable. The hate I have in my heart for them is overwhelming, but you Commanded us to love our enemies. Please help me understand how to do this, and help me begin the process to forgive.
This request is the hardest ask I’ve ever requested Lord, please help me to reconcile it. Amen.
I still think an AI should never be allowed to use I or We (and related like "our").
An AI simply can't sin nor suffer (just like the Sun can't, it's a lifeless object), but they all use human-like self perception to trick the reader into thinking it's way more human and emotional than it actually is.
The answer is solid and true, of course, but don't get tricked by AI. It has no idea what it's actually saying. It's equivalent to a false priest reciting verses from the Bible, but without understanding them at all. Relying on it for your Bible readings and studies is incredibly dangerous.
Next ask your AI about the Flavian Hypothesis.
And yet, to know ALL of this, and look at how Men Treat each other....
Which is the More Damning position???
I treat you good!
To me, this explains it all far better:
The Story of Mankind - Timothy Alberino
https://youtu.be/lvboC2qaoxU