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Noctuner 6 points ago +6 / -0

That's simply because all those movies are filmed to make the resistance look absolutely good and perfect in every way, and the empire or whatever bad and evil in every way. The normies just side with whatever side the movie wants them to side.

There's also the "Real life is not a movie, it's more complicated!!" excuse.

Make a story where the villain is actually the good guy all along, most people won't get it and will blindly hate him because the movie told them he was the villain.

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Noctuner 10 points ago +10 / -0

So they learn not to resist government mandates

Who even writes stuff like this and doesn't have an internal alarm going "Wait what I'm writing right now is actually plain stupid" ? Never studied history at all?

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Noctuner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vaccinated billions of people

"Very very very" low risk

Ok, what's the percentage? Very low risk could mean anything from like 1% to 0.000001%, so what is it? We're talking about billions of people, we need precise informations cause we're talking about potentially dozens of millions of people at risk of myocarditis.

The risk of Covid itself is greater than the vaccine

Except that has nothing to do with it. If someone has to go through a medical procedure, no matter if it's objectively the best thing to do, you have to warn them of ALL potential risks. Did you? No, you didn't. Everyone who did got censored, banned, or fired.

low risk of myocarditis among young men

You mean, the demographics that was, from the beginning, least likely to get hurt or killed by Covid anyway? So the ones who were the least in danger from the virus, were actually the most at risk with the vaccine supposed to counter said virus? And you see nothing wrong with that?

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Noctuner 7 points ago +7 / -0

For me it's not the booster, it's the "It doesn't prevent covid, just lessen Covid and the symptoms" part. For people who claims to "Believe the science", they sure don't know a whole lot about "Immunity" and "Immune system".

"I just got covid but I'm thankful for the vaccine..."

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

That doesn't smell right especially with how CGI can save the costs of dozen's of movie sets.

The same stuff is happening in all industries. They save $1 because of budget cost, computer or AI generation, or off-loading some work to cheap countries like India, but then they multiply the marketing or other external cost by x10 the amount they saved.

In video games, even like 10 years ago, actual development was only like 20% of the actual cost of the game, the rest was management/marketing/etc. The ratio is probably higher nowadays.

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Noctuner 4 points ago +4 / -0

Is there a single sentence from that post that's not full of hypocrisy? Let's find out:

  • "Yes book banning is bad: however [...]" ok well you already countered your own "moral" already. "I'm against this, except when it benefits me".

  • "Children have yet to develop critical thinking skills" So why are you telling them they may have 'the wrong body' or force them to use puberty blockers then, if they can't be sure of anything?

  • "Children do not stand a fighting chance" So why the fuck are you talking about sexual interactions to them, or making books purely targeted at them? At least the Bible is for everyone, it doesn't target kids only and tell them to "keep secrets from their parents".

  • "Give them a chance to live a life free from religious hatred, bigotry, division". Yeah, free from hatred and division, message written by the people who seek division and spills hate wherever they go. So inclusive, that if you don't agree with them, they will censor you, dox you then jail you.

  • "And help end the cult of the Abrahamic God and its sects" Cause you know, the people telling you to "Believe the Science" while also believing there are 1000 genders, clearly isn't a sect at all.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

So you're going to play semantic and behave just like the left? Yes, coercion is force. You use force and domination to pursue the result you want, even if the person doesn't want that. Here's just some definitions I found for it, in case you're not convinced:

  • to compel to an act or choice
  • to achieve by force or threat
  • to restrain or dominate by force
  • the act of coercing; use of force or intimidation to obtain compliance.
  • involves compelling a party to act in an involuntary manner by the use of threats, including threats to use force against that party
  • To restrain by force, especially by law or authority; to repress; to curb.
  • To use force, threat, fraud, or intimidation in an attempt to compel one to act against their will.

Pick your favorite and argue all you want about "words", but I feel like a certain theme is emerging from all those definitions, don't you think? "Force" doesn't have to be you actually physically restrained, it's much more than that. If you have a family to feed, and your employer tells you "Jab or get out", that is using force.

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Noctuner 3 points ago +3 / -0

But they are ignoring it, by simply saying "No one forced you". Yes, our choices were forced. Let's not blame the victims, even if they are still at fault partially, let's keep our focus on the true culprits behind all this.

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Noctuner 5 points ago +6 / -1

I keep seeing this "No one forced you to take it, you always had a choice". Funnily enough, that was the whole argument of the pro-vax people during Covid. We used to make fun of them for that, but now we're using their very own words? What changed? Did I miss something?

I don't agree at all with that. Yes, people do force me to take if they threaten me to cut my liberties or my money that I need to live. I have the choice to kneel down or not, but that's still coercion, and they absolutely tried to force an answer. Those aren't mutually exclusive. People always have the choice and indeed complied with it, but let's not excuse nor ignore how tyrannic those mandates were. The people behind those are the real culprits.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jabbed or Not, you should always always always believe that your life is in GOD and only GOD’s hands.

In a way, that's what made it so complicated to talk about it with my parents. We're Christians, but every time I told them why I was strongly against it, most of the time, they just resorted back to "God gave us science and gave us vaccine". I wasn't able to get through to them because of that, they had blind faith in vaccines, no matter where it came from, because they saw it as a gift from God.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Funnily enough, sharks are rather intelligent and able to memorise things for extended period of time. I'm fairly sure that if we really wanted that, we could given enough time.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I really wish I'd see someone finally prove once and for all the Earth is round by using holonomy, a side effect of curved spaces that increases an object rotation when its only moving in translations. This is possible on a sphere but impossible on a flat surface, and a purely mathematical concept (so no reliance on photoshopped pictures, or various kind of light pollution in the atmosphere, or weird optical illusion like on water). Determining whether or not holonomy is a thing on Earth will 100% prove if its a curved space or not.

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Noctuner 5 points ago +5 / -0

My argument against flat Earth is that the shortest distance between two objects is a straight line except on a sphere. I have been in airplanes and they have always traveled in an arc.

A straight line on a sphere is called great circle distance. It's impossible to represent a sphere on a 2D piece without physical distortion in some way, so on paper, planes trajectory appears curved, but that's just a distortiong of their actual path. Planes don't really constantly turn in real life, they follow a mostly straight line whenever possible.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

Our own people, when given direct evidence, don't even believe it.

And that's good that we're skeptical of everything, even blatant pictures. Last thing we need is jumping at the first conclusion we see and progressively turning into mindless sheep, seeing only stuff in pictures we want to see without analysing it in details or confirming with each others, and just progressively turn into NPCs, just in the opposite direction from the other NPCs.

If we just accept everything, we're opening a very big weakness that can easily be exploited just like other the mass is being exploited.

Also, this thread is now home to many more evidence of it due to people questioning and wanting more, can't say that's a bad thing.

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Noctuner 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Is that yours? It's mine now" has 7 words...

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Noctuner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Gives a whole new meaning to Genesis 2:7

Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

When enough people in their lives stop interacting with them then MAYBE they’ll realize that nobody wants to be around their miserable existence.

That's the problem with the internet, no matter how crazy you are, you'll always find someone just as crazy as you. Those people will stay in their bubble, find other people, and progressively get crazier and crazier.

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Noctuner 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm not excluding either your theory, or the simple fact that our understanding of the world is completely wrong. Maybe carbon dating is not used correctly, or doesn't show what we expected, except we have nothing for now. In fact, I'm almost certain all of our theories are still wrong. And yes, time is very weird and more "fluid-like" than we think, so it's also a strong possibility. Time is related to space, but could very well be related to something like dark matter/dark energy, stuff that we've detected all over the universe but still are completely unable to understand.

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Noctuner 3 points ago +3 / -0

I agree with that, but we should also accept we will be left in the dark in some topics. We can't handle all the truth on all subjects, not a single human can hold that much. I would rather get the truth on subject that matters to me directly (best example for now: the covid vaccines), rather than wasting my time on trying to debunk the Moon landing. Ok cool, the Moon landing was fake and I have the proof, now what? I know the top people are liars already, so it's not going to change much.

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I worded it badly, just that line like that, you are indeed right.

Here's are my thoughts: God could have made the Earth flat, spherical, cubic, or whatever shape, and still make the universe works exactly how He wants. He chose a specific shape, and that's it. Maybe there's a reason, maybe it's just a result of all the other laws of the universe He wanted to have and He was fine with it, but there's no point in caring so much about this on our side. This shape, to us, is completely insignificant. Will your life change that much if tomorrow, you learn it's actually flat? Or Cubic? No, nothing will change.

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Noctuner 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you think a God that created the entirity of the universe couldn't create the earth and everything in it within 6 days?

I never said He couldn't. God lives outside time itself, so the whole "6 days" to Him is absolutely meaningless to begin with. He could make an infinite amount of universes before a photon even makes a single movement.

I'm not critizing the idea that God could create a world in 6 days, what I'm critizing is people thinking that, when everything in our world points to something different. If God created the world in 6 days, then why, in this very same universe, is carbon dating showing us some stuff are billions of years old? Why are stars billions of years old? Why are bones we find in the ground already millions of years old? Why would God create an universe in 6 days, but then make everything tell a lie to us to fool us at every corner? God is perfect, and He doesn't lie, so why would His very own creation lie to us?

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Noctuner 3 points ago +3 / -0

Using the Bible as a scientific tool is beyond absurd. The Bible is here to help us, humans, understand God's law and sacrifice, not to understand God's creations.

Do you think the entire universe was created in true 6 Earth-days? What about all the carbon dating that tells us some stuff are millions or billions or years old, you think that's God tricking us and trying to make us believe something wrong? No, that doesn't add up, cause God can't lie, so he wouldn't make something purely to trick us into the wrong direction.

If the Earth is flat, why would they say circles anyway, among any other shape possible? Why not square? Ellipsis? Any form of any polygon ever? Why just say "circle"? In ancient times, where a word like "Sphere" may not exist because it's "too mathematical" for the time (exactly how terms like "factorial" or "root" didn't exist at the time), circle would be a decent way to describe the Earth if it was actually spherical.

"the horizon would constantly drop as you ascended" That implies 2 different things:

  • Either the Earth is finite, and thus, you should be able to see the entire Earth at once. But if it says "you only see the horizon no matter how far you go", that means you don't see the entire Earth, or else there would be no more horizon. Thus, this argument is completely wrong.

  • Either the Earth is infinite, which raises many many other questions and is completely incoherent with anything we've observed so far.

I'm open to ideas that the Earth may be something else that what we've been told, but so far, all the flat-Earthers arguments fall short very quickly. If you want to prove me it's flat, use actual mathematical tools like holonomy. I'll wait until then.

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Noctuner 5 points ago +6 / -1

Why do you think God would care about such things like Earth true shape or Moon landing? Those are completely insignificant topics that doesn't impact anything. And if God doesn't care about those topics, neither should we. The real truth is inaccessible to humans anyway, only God has it. Remember what happened the first time humanity got too curious?

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Noctuner 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think it's conflicting. The vaccine itself may disappear, but the damage it's done are staying and causing even more problem down the road. Myocarditis is exactly a typical case of this, since heart muscles regenerate extremely slowly if at all, so any damage to them could cause a lot of problems in the future, even if the thing causing the myocarditis stopped.

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