So as I said in the title, since we do research like crazy, can someone determine if the government will be ending social security, medicare, medicaid, SNAP, etc? She's a leftist and probably believes the media at their word, I simply don't watch TV anymore. I got dealt a bad hand in life (will elaborate with DMs if anyone wants to know), and 4 of us live together with social security as our major source of income. If we lose it, we're basically homeless.
I don't believe that the entitlements will literally be ended, but it's something to worry about, not that I need any more stress in my life. Has anyone already done research on the bill?
Here's the link to the house bill: https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20250519/2025_budget_Rec_RH_xml.pdf
It's horrendous that "bills" are so damn long, and aren't titled as "a law."
Social Security is not considered an entitlement since people pay into it. However, no one who never contributed into it should never receive a benefit.
Don't listen to her, she's wrong.
Your sister is promoting disinformation! Tell her to stop listening to the fakenews media!
The bill is over 1100 pages long. You could feed it into grok for interpretation. The only thing I have heard is they wanted to take away from able bodied who can work. Or at least, make them work for it. And also illegal aliens. I skimmed through the SNAP seems to be they want to base it on family size instead of assuming a family of 4. If you are a family of 4, you will get the same amount. If you have more people you will get more. If you have less, you will get less. Proportional to family size. Trump has said the only cuts to medicare and the rest he would make is cutting waste and fraud.
SNAP is per person, not per family size. It pays for illegal kids simply because they are under 18.
Nope, I have heard several people, including DOGE team members, say that the existing, live payments are strictly fine.
What they are doing is clearing the dead people, the fake people the people who have multiple accounts, the cheaters and the thieves from the system.
If you are getting a payment, then it's all good. If you get an email from them, asking for a reply; or there is an address verification - on the offiial website - just answer and interact with the website. What they want to know is: Are you alive? Any sign of life, and your payment is fine.
IDK what form of verification they will use, or how the algorithm works out which ones are fake; or maybe fake; or defiinitely live. But so far, they are catching pretty obvious low-hanging fruit, just by going through the existing data. You see: any government payment leaves a digital trail.
If the email address attahed to the acount, is a dodgy hotmail address, and when an email is sent it is returned, or left unopened - one might start wondering if it is a scam.
I am sorry for your sister - she sounds a little brain-washed, or MSM-affected (same thing, really). Add to that, a good dose of peer-pressure from her very 'good friends' who are all rabid leftists - no doubt - because that is how that sort of thing works: the gaggle gangs up and creates a narrative, bouncing off each other in a competition to see who can come up with the most outrageous one. It's like a vile drinking game.
And that can take months to train out, if ever. I mean who are you in this very happy arrangement? An outsider, that's what. And that's part of the game - the aim is of dividing families.
But for a one-liner: There are literally 150-yr olds claiming payments every week. those accounts will be purged. But it's Virtual [apostrophe fingers] genocide, tho.
They're not ending it. They are gutting the fraud which will actually help people like yourself
If any of that was true it would be a lifeline for the Dems and the DS. They, and their MSM co-conspirators would be running the story 24/7 for weeks.
Are their idiotic RINOs who would love to help out their Uniparty counterparts? Yes. But, I think they are being effectively marginalized.
You're right, of course, but the lowest of the low-IQ libs are saying that very thing, that SS is going to end and the sky is falling and the world as we know it is going to end. THE HORROR!! Stupid people will believe stupid things, and the people the follow can really get them riled up over nothing.
Trump and his team have said repeatedly without waiver that Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security are going nowhere. He is, however, interested in ending all waste, fraud, and abuse related to them. This should benefit all Americans. The left is gaslighting people into "believing" (I guess out of brainwashed faith) that Trump is out to end these programs. I ask then, how does this track with Trump? I would say it doesn't at all.
The waste, fraud and abuse has been soo rampant that, it is draining the pool for the Legit citizens who are the ones that legally should have those benefits or who have an emergency and need to use some of it for a few months.
Not only has Trump committed to not ending SS, he wants to end the income tax paid on the benefits, at least by seniors. I get the impression that these programs won't be bankrupt once the fraud and waste is eliminated.
Tell your sister to stop listening to the MSM. Not only do they frame their reports falsely and omit information, they fabricate false stories to panic their viewers.
Tell your sister that her SS benefits end when they start signing up illegals.
I believe what the Trump admin is saying. If you qualify under the rules you’re fine. If not your out.
Also regarding Bills.
They cannot, by definition be 'Law'
A Bill is meant to be a pre-cursor to law. It is the opportunity for the chamber to debate each point, before making a law. One does not want to have the president 'make a law', or a judge, for that matter. Laws are meant to be written by the people, for the people etc., so theoretically, congress are representatives of the people. Congress writes the laws.
Yes the Bills are long, and they are meant to be as detailed as humanly possible - muh more detailed than a hundred page thesis for one person - remember we are talking fifty states. The research involved is stupendous. However, that is congress' job. Well it is supposed to be. What happens is: every congress person will supposedly check how 'their' state will be affected.
It's diffiult to limit the length of bills, because there are lots of aspects to consider: Think multiple reports on (human rights, especially, but also property rights, common law, hunting licences, commercial developments, infrastructure, economics, politics, bad-news-breaking tactics, media, alt-media, etc., etc, ......, and lots of members of congress, who presumably want to know, what's in it for their state, etc. And, if not, why not? etc.
To reduce it to some sort of logic: That's a minimum of fifty pages just there - one individualized page per congress-member. However, every congress-member has to receive a sheaf of pages, arranged acording to the first list. A decent read is say- sixty pages? The size of a detailed report? Hundred or more - like a small thesis or book - takes several days to read? Times that number by fifty, because each state needs their own version.
There will be several 'readings', which can lead to long speeches from the 'opposition'. Presumably each congress member has to thunk upon their portion of it, and at least open their mouth.
That's how it's supposed to work.
It also depends on how many items Congressmen attempt to add to the bill; addendums and amendments.
Social Stupidity!!!! Just give me my money back.
I would have retired long ago if that $ was invested in an honest investment fund.
Short answer from Grok: The bill you referenced, H.R. ll from the House Committee on the Budget, is the Republican Study Committee's (RSC) proposed budget for 2025. Based on available information, including posts on X and web sources, this bill does not propose ending Social Security but includes changes that could affect its benefits. Specifically, it suggests raising the Social Security retirement age to 69, which would effectively reduce lifetime benefits for future retirees by approximately 13%. This adjustment is framed by proponents as a measure to ensure the program’s long-term solvency.
There are also claims on X suggesting the bill includes a $4,000 annual reduction in Social Security benefits from 2025 through 2028, but these claims lack corroboration from primary sources like the bill text itself and should be treated as inconclusive. Other posts indicate the bill removes Social Security benefits from taxable income and increases the senior standard deduction by $4,000, which could benefit retirees by reducing their tax burden. However, these provisions are not universally confirmed in the provided references.
The bill also proposes creating a fiscal commission to review federal spending, including Social Security, which some critics argue could lead to benefit cuts behind closed doors. Without the full bill text, it’s challenging to verify the exact scope of these proposals.
In summary, the bill does not appear to end Social Security but likely includes reforms like raising the retirement age, which would reduce benefits for future retirees. Claims of direct annual cuts or other specific changes are not fully substantiated by the available information. For precise details, I recommend reviewing the bill text directly at the provided link or contacting the House Committee on the Budget.
Ridiculous
Oh, please.
If any administration tampered with any payment as mentioned, it would be 2 maybe 3 terms before they had a chance at getting back into government. One word. TRUST. The public would never trust them again and the opposition would use that in any campaign. They’re cleaning house and that’s all.
They"re not ending anything that is needed.... And I'm sorry that you have a gaslighting sister...
Who? The left that loves printing money and could care less if they print more or the right, who are made up of 25 percent or more of people over 55 who support trump. Of they end monthly payouts then they'll have to lump sum everyone or the craziness you will see will be through the roof. Also, welfare isnt and entitlement because you didn't earn it. That's why nits labeled welfare. SSN and Pensions were earned. Therefore the payers whonare qualified are "entitled" to their remuneration. We have a right to that money. No welfare recipient has an right to the welfare.
No one has the right to any government service. This story is fake news but never think that SS is a right. It's a tax, period. They decide when you take it, and there's no account your money goes into. Your money was already spent for your parents. The only money you get now comes from your kids.
Democrat plant?
Ask her to show you the "exact," the exact specific evidence she has that your social security will be taken away. Did you pay into the system all your life and now you're receiving it in your retirement? If so, no worries. In fact, Trump intends (congress will have to approve) to remove all tax on Social Security. He has said that repeatedly. He wants to give seniors more protection for the money they earned working all their lives AND that they already paid taxes on!
Now, if your sister is someone who never worked a day in her life but somehow fraudulently collected social security, that could be a different story. But someone who has paid into the system and therefore, INVESTED into it, will get their RETURNS in the form of their check, and hopefully, soon, an even better check because they won't be paying taxes. Good luck and keep us posted!