WATCH: Charlie Kirk's Urgent Final 'Challenge' To All of Christianity: 'This Is The Most Ignored Commandment'
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The reason we no longer honor the sabbath is the same reason we no longer honor all the regulations bound by the old laws in Leviticus. We are no longer under the law, but in the joyous sate of forgiveness and grace of Jesus in a new covenant.
Paul warned us that we are no longer bound by that old law, and are now free in our faith in him. The Early Christians assembled on the first day of the week because that is the day that Christ rose from the grave. They sang songs, prayed, observed the Lords Supper, and heard messages of the gospel from the living Apostles and later, disciples of Jesus.
The Sabbath was proclaimed as a day of rest under the old law, and was made for man’s benefit. As Christians, we rest on Sunday, the Lords day, and gather together to encourage one another and worship God.
One final thought….All the other commandments are reiterated in the New Testament…except for observing the sabbath.
Many of our churches need to clean house. It's the reason a lot of good Christians abandoned them. Perhaps what we need to do is go back to the way they worshipped in the early days of the church -- gathered in each other's houses.
Excellent point. I'm a man of faith and believer in God. Lost my trust in organized religion (churches) a long time ago. Yes, they need to "clean house." Churches seem to be run like businesses anymore. I keep my faith between me and my God, eliminating the middle man (churches) who only seem to want to capitalize on the relationship.
Years ago I discovered that the denomination of the church I went to supported rebel soldiers in a foreign country with the donations that were given for mission work.
Later, the church I attended hired a new pastor who greatly increased the size of the congregation...until it was discovered that he was picking up men at a local bar and bringing them back to the parsonage. The congregation found this out after his wife left and divorced him.
The ones you look up to the most are the ones that let you down, so it would seem.
Exactly why I refuse to attend. I don't "look up" to any man of the cloth, only God. There have been too many wake up calls:
Priests/Pastors preying on the young/vulnerable.
Former MLB player Ben Zobrist. Look him up. In a nutshell, a man of faith (Zobrist) who's wife had an affair with his pastor/advisor.
This guy
And this guy
And this guy
The list is endless
That will probably happen organically out of necessity at some point.
I recommend watching The Story Keepers. It’s a cartoon, but gives a good idea of the situation. Is The Chosen from the same time period? I haven’t made time to see it yet.
Agreed, but before "the church" (circa 325 AD). Unfortunately, most Christians are steeped in the cabal (Roman) ideas, meanings, definitions, interpretations that have been deceitfully spread to the masses.
As a simple example, expressed by the OP, the "sabbath" is a lesson in "creation". "Creation" occurs in our imagination. The "day of rest" is in relaxing and knowing what you have imagined will come to pass as you wish. This is the "esoteric" meaning of the sabbath.
But 99% of practicing Christians won't even entertain the esoteric teachings. They, like all people, have been profoundly programmed to reject any suggestion that their preferred belief system has been debauched by the controlling cabal.
Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, materialists, republicans, democrats alike. All are locked into the cabal-generated dogma and can't see the forest for the trees.
It seems it's next to impossible to snap people out of this brainwashing until they can come to grips with the fact that everything in the mainstream, popular domain has been altered and debauched by the cabal. Their hands aren't just in government, or banking, or the legal system, or universities, or media. As many people now accept --- TO A DEGREE -- on this board.
The brainwashing starts in nursery school and Sunday school alike.
Can you really believe the cabal would allow "the truth" to be freely and openly expressed and taught in publicly accessible venues? Especially when it comes to spirituality and religion. These are the PRIMARY institutions they must debauch and control.
The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.
Things have changed since 1888 however. The truth was finally allowed to be openly discussed, by divine dispensation no less. But the power of the cabal to brainwash and control the public discussion continues to hold sway with the masses. This is changing fast and more and more people are snapping out of "going along to get along", but we're still a ways away from mainstream Christians willingness to entertain and contemplate the esoteric teachings, which have been around since time immemorial.
👏 to your entire comment.....
🤯 to this part..... > The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.>
I remember sitting in my college world religions class and coming to this realization. I blows my mind that others have a difficult time seeing it.
Thanks again fren for your role in this awakening. I appreciate all your comments and desire to share truth. I’m stalking your comments so I can read some good threads. 😂
Much appreciated. Glad to have you hear as well, upvoting even my most controversial and aggravating comments!! hahaha
"Safety in numbers" explains it pretty well. Some of us didn't have that program installed, or were able to avoid it in our consciousness. The irony is, all these mainstream religious traditions contain all the "pointers to truth" that would ever be needed. But the cabal's popularized renditions of them all point in the opposite direction!
You're making a difference here too, and I appreciate all your kind words! Our numbers will grow, leaps and bounds in the not-too-distant future. You can bank on it!
Reconcile.
Lawlessness/Iniquity/Unrighteousness/Transgression of the Law
Reconcile.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV) - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
What is fulfil?
Reconcile.
Exodus 20:9-10 - Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
If we are to turn over the third commandment, which of the others is next?
Abandon what you’ve been taught by your church, whatever church it may be. Neither take my word. Dig into the scriptures and test them.
Christians do not keep the Sabbath.
“What would Jesus do?”
Jesus kept the Sabbath. Jesus kept the Feasts. The apostles kept the Feasts after the crucifixion. If they kept the Feasts, under what logic would they abandon the Sabbath, which is the foremost of them?
Look for yourself.
Jesus was under the old law. He kept it perfectly. But when the new kingdom came on the Day of Pentecost in the upper room, Peter and the apostles preached the gospel in different languages, and 3000 plus were added to the brand new established kingdom of God. We were no longer under a system of law keeping, but rather one of grace and forgiveness. Read Acts. It is clear that we are now in the Kingdom of God, with Jesus at the head of the new Church of Christ. The first day of the week is now the day of gathering.
Er, no.
Jesus was criticized by the Jewish leaders because he 'failed to hold the Sabbath'.
But, personally, I think there is a massive misunderstanding in a lot of modern Christianity about how they (we) interpret Paul's words.
What Jesus came to teach was an upgrade, and an upgraded way of relating to God, the Father.
The Laws kept by the Israelites were God's commandment to them; and in holding to them, they fulfilled their responsibility to practice faith in God. But the basis of those laws was still God's transcendental truths. For example, the Ten Commandments.
eg Do not commit murder. This fundamental principle has not changed nor was it 'swept away' when Jesus taught the Gospels and ushered in (opened for humanity) a higher, upgraded relationship with God.
It just meant that we can honor God and get closer to God through Jesus standard and by uniting with the Gospels.
Aka we become 'justified' to God by keeping the word of the Gospel (aka faith in Christ and living the Gospel), on a level that supercedes the mere keeping of the ten commandments.
But, the principle behind 'keeping the Sabbath' is still very real. It is grounded in that transcendental truth that God has expressed first thru the Commandments and then upgraded via Christ. (These will be upgraded when Christ returns, to a higher, new dimension. which is why as Christians, we cannot simply think, oh, we're all ok, just because we have spiritual salvation. We're waiting for, and preparing for, that upgrade when Christ returns. But if we're not ready.... oh.... "depart from me you evil doers!" )
The principle of the Sabbath is to take the time to focus on God, honor God in the quietness of my heart. If all of humanity took one day to reflect on, focus on, God, God's word, God's love, etc, the world would be transformed much more quickly. At least, that's what I believe.
I do not believe that I have to practice the 'Sabbath' in order to qualify for God's love or receive his forgiveness, BUT I do believe that he gave that instruction/guidance to the Israelites for a very good and important reason.
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I think you two are both hitting on very important aspects that even among most observing the Biblical Sabbath is not in focus yet, but it will be.
May righteousness abound on the Earth. Amen.
We can have this discussion elsewhere if you want, but don’t want to eat up all the space here going back and forth.
It tends to not precisely be a short discussion.
Thank you very much! (You said it both more simply and more powerfully than I would have!).
Kek was looking for another comment with a YouTube link and noticed a lot of downdoots came behind me on this.
Funny how they didn’t present any arguments to go with them!
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Indeed!! (If you would like to read my points on this they are here:
https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0Q64lCG/x/c/4eWbmtSMU4L
and here:
https://scored.co/c/Christianity/p/1AR0Q64lOc/the-charlie-kirk-final-challenge/c/4eWbmy92HEC
I am in awe at this happening.
Absolutely in awe. Had no idea.
They won’t listen and cannot reconcile.
They are deceived by the Traditions of Men.
The choice to know will be yours.
Love this!!! Thank you! Paul is a false teacher. Focus only on Jesus!
Paul was a Pharisee, and was confronted on the road to Damascus by Jesus from heaven. He became the most prolific writer of the books of the New Testament! He suffered for the cause of Christ more than any other. I have no idea why anyone would proclaim him a false teacher.
Per my note below, because he’s taught falsely. His writings are not false, though.
Edit: More detail for the downdooters: https://greatawakening.win/p/1AR0Q64lCG/x/c/4eWbmtZAJ1f
Paul isn’t a false teacher, he’s just very difficult (remember, he was converting Pharisees, who were a bit like Lawyers), and easy to misconstrue from our lacking modern contexts and translations.
Paul, as taught, is false (edit: in parts). Jesus, as recorded, is very straightforward, but ignored in favor of misunderstanding Paul. I don’t claim to understand why.
2 Peter 3:15-16 - 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest (as they do also the other scriptures) unto their own destruction.
I.e. People take Paul out of context, leading to their own destruction, but this is also not unique to Paul. I may have taken another verse out of Biblical context, via poor translation, earlier today even myself - it is important to always test things.
My problem with this is that if you are going to argue that the Sabbath is part of the the Law we don't have to keep, what do you do with the rest of the Ten Commandments? The Sabbath is part of the Decalogue, after all.
Also, the Sabbath ties to the Creation mandate, in that God appeals to creation and His choice to rest on it.
Jesus called Himself the Lord of the Sabbath. He is not the Lord of things dead but of the living!
Paul in Hebrews says there remains a Sabbath rest, so whether you keep it on the seventh day or the first day , you are keeping the principle of a Sabbath, even if you do not keep the Sabbath on the Seventh Day!
The PCA holds to the Westminster Confession, which has this to say about Sabbath: https://thereformedmind.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/westminster-larger-catechism-questions-115-121/ (personally I disagree with the idea of no recreation see question 117, note 625)
We are not under the Law as a path to Heaven, Yet Paul who proclaims this vehemently, also says,
Romans 3 :31 We establish the Law!
Can you reconcile this?
All other commandments are in the New Testament. The only one not mentioned specifically for us is the sabbath. Remember that the sabbath was made for man to rest. So it is with the new covenant, by us coming together as the early Christians on the first day of the week…the Lords Day.
“… which was decreed by the Pope, who claimed he had that authority.”
I disagree.
Now if one wanted to argue that attending congregation on a day other than Sabbath was commendable and good, there are some decent arguments for that.
It’s a Commandment of God!!!!
Are you saying the 10 Commandments of God, written by His own finger into stone tables, is invalid somehow????
EDIT: And Christians can pick and choose which of Gods Commandments to “honor”?
Peace, fren. It took me almost 10 years to walk this. It took others years of being annoyed by my “difficulties” and “ruining dinner by refusing to eat the pork chops.”
Even then. Everyone who sees it sees it in their own time.
I wish I was as peaceful arguing with liberals about their being terrorists as I am with pointing this out to other Christians. Kek.
I totally hear you fren, and can relate.
Next, talk to them about Hell. That really gets ‘em thinking.
If you focus solely on what Christ said in the gospels, he said that he did not come to abolish the law. He said when asked 4 times how to receive eternal life. He said “Follow the commandments, love God with all your heart and soul, love your neighbor as yourself.”
Pauls words are not to be trusted. It’s too easy.
Jesus said the narrow gate to eternal life is hard. And the easy path leads to destruction. We are to be obedient, repent, follow the commandments, and love Him. This is the way.
He also said “beware of those who come in my name and say I am the Christ. On judgement day I will say I never knew you. And they will say Lord, Lord, did I not cast out demons and heal in your name? And I will say depart from me you who practice “lawlessness.” (Paul)
Do not believe Paul. This is also a part of the Great Awakening. As Satan said to Eve “surely you shall not die.” Paul says to the sheep of Christ, “surely you shall not die if you have faith, believe, and profess Jesus Christ is your Lord and Savior.” Even demons know Jesus is the son of God.
Jesus tells us how to have eternal life. Paul doesn’t quote Jesus in his letters. Paul appointed himself an apostle. Paul was blinded by Jesus? Jesus heals the blind.
I hope your spirits stir while reading this.