There is no Europe without America. Ultimate welfare babies. Their entire medical system is due to the fact the US basically defends them. They can out that defense budget into social programs. Programs Americans don’t have. End it. Lutnick said the US has been ripped off since the end of the Second World War. We literally saved them and rebuilt that continent. Now they are trying to pull us into WWIII on behalf of a coke head.
We literally saved them and rebuilt that continent.
You firebombed German cities with your British buddies to the point that people were getting burned alive in molten asphalt and turned into fatty goo in basements. Millions of civilians genocided for no military gain. You raped thousands of women and children and starved more than a million German POWs to death in Eisenhower's concentration camps after the war. You blocked humanitarian aid and watched German orphans starve in the rubble while holding opulent banquets to celebrate your victory. You murdered your own general Patton when he started calling out the senseless brutality and declared you had fought the wrong enemy. You gave large parts of Europe to Stalin to murder, rape and plunder.
Hollywood movies about what the victors want you to think happened are not the whole story. Saved and rebuilt Europe? More like tried and failed to erase an entire European nation. As for social programs, we can finance those with our 50+% tax rate just fine, thank you.
For what it's worth, I'm not saying the US is evil. It was just clearly controlled by the cabal at the time like most other parties in the war.
Q has asked some interesting leading questions about WWII and the events of the 20th century in post #142. I hope we'll learn the answers to them one day.
I assume you are Euro? I agree with all points. I also agree with Russia recently speaking about their contributions and America being Johnny come lately and the Hollywood narrative. I get it. My comment was based off office story. Wasn’t going down the rabbit hole you presented. But yes. You are absolutely correct. Also the train tracks to the camps were never destroyed. Could have ended a lot of suffering quickly. They didn’t. The real reasons and operations behind every issue in the west is hidden behind false narratives. It’s usually about money, debt and consolidation.
The coke head was just another pawn in the cabal's quest for world domination. The biolabs were meant to take down Russia which under Putin had become a block to them taking world control.
Exactly. The United States should not comply with Article 5 under any circumstances. So what if Russia attacks the Baltic states or Finland? That's not the US's problem.
In fact, Ukraine, Baltics and Finland are historical Russian lands that left Russia during the time of chaos in 1917-1920 & 1990s and are practically rebelling regions of Russia that should be returned back to Russian control.
Baltics and Finland are historical Russian lands...
Very broad brush there, Chukna. Many Russians could say the same about Poland. Or even Alaska. But the Poles would disagree. At any rate, the Finns, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all have a say in the matter and most would disagree.
Your mighty country has failed to overrun a “little village” for 3 years already without sending a million of your own young men to their brutal deaths, maybe sit this one out
Really? Then he's just like most Russians I know, always want Russia to expand territory while simultaneously never wanting to live in Russia. Bites the hand that feeds (& protects) him.
Russia has never tried to overrun Ukraine, their goal was east Ukraine where Ukrainian Nazis have been mass killing ethnic Russians and they have succeeded. 20% of Ukraine has been liberated by Russia.
So Ukraine (supposedly) has been secretly mass genociding Russians, therefore Russia marches a million young Russian men to their deaths to kill Ukrainians (who they also consider fellow Russians), and continues doing this for 3 years so far killing more Russians and "fellow Russians", all to get revenge for the supposedly secretly mass genocided Russians and save more Russians. Now you've created an actual mass genocide of your own people.
Once you get this small piece of Ukraine instead of all of Ukraine like you wanted in the first place, then what? You've killed many good young men. Your Muslim population will outgrow your Christians. Maybe China will betray you and take Siberia. And absolutely no real technological innovation happens in Russia.
I mean if Russia was just able to overrun Ukraine in a single day, stop this genocide, and save their youth, wouldn't it be the more humane thing to do? Why have they been stuck trying to fight for tiny pebbles from a little village for 3 years?
So Ukraine (supposedly) has been secretly mass genociding Russians ...
There is no "supposedly" about it. the OCSE has recorded 14,000 deaths between 2014 and 2022. As for "secretly" it was no more secret than the current situation in Ukraine it is just that it went largely unreported in The West. I wonder why?
What if Russia has no intention to overrun Ukraine? What if it just wants to reduce the partially Nazi army in Ukraine to safe proportions and prevent its enemy establishing bases right on its borders? Remember how the US did not like the idea of Russian missiles in Cuba? Well, Russia feels the same about having American missiles in Ukraine.
Finally, here is an extract from a log for just one week in 2014 detailing the actions of Ukraine:
On July 4, in the Rostov region, in the vicinity of the “Donetsk” checkpoint, Russian border guards and an investigation group were subjected to mortar fire from the Ukrainian territory.
On July 4, Ukrainian security forces subjected the residential areas of Lugansk to another artillery bombardment.
On July 4, in Slavyansk, the shelling of residential areas by the Ukrainian army killed 6 civilians, mostly elderly people who were not able to leave the town.
On July 5, the Ukrainian Air Force made an air strike on the Donetsk airport.
On July 5, in Lugansk, a shelling from the positions of the Ukrainian army killed 1 person and injured 13 people.
On July 5, in the Rostov region, Russia’s “Donetsk” checkpoint was subjected to mortar fire from the Ukrainian territory.
On July 6, in Nikolaevka, the Ukrainian troops once again opened targeted fire against the civilians trying to leave the town.
On July 6, a Ukrainian attack aircraft Su-25 made an air strike on the settlements of Metallist and Alexandrovka located in the suburbs of Lugansk.
On July 6, the centre of Lugansk was subjected to mortar fire. A guard at a motor depot died, 4 people were seriously wounded. A shell hit a Niva-car on Kransnodonskaya street killing 2 people.
On July 7, Ukrainian servicemen used phosphorus munitions to shell Lisichiansk.
On July 7, in Lugansk, according to the information of the Lugansk People’s Republic Health Minister Victor Avakian, 80 people had been hospitalized with injuries of different severity levels within the last 24 hours.
On July 7, in the vicinity of Krasnodon, the Lugansk region, the participants of Kiev’s punitive operation used automatic weapons to attack a bus with refugees, the Ukrainian aviation made more air strikes using phosphorus bombs.
On July 8 (morning), in Lugansk, 2 people killed and 4 people were hospitalized as a result of shell fragments hitting a public transport minibus.
On July 8, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation initiated a case of kidnapping and torture of a Russian citizen A. Mikhailenko on the ter ritory of Ukraine (On June 19, 2014, A. Mikhailenko was going from the Rostov region to the Lugansk region. During a personal search at a Ukrainian check-point a photograph was found in Mr. Mikhailenko’s phone showing him with weapons in hands at a Moscow military technology exhibition on Victory Day,
May 9. The fighters of the “Dnepr” battalion in Ukraine took away his personal belongings, they were interrogating, beating and torturing him for a week. When they made sure that Mr. Mikhailenko is not a military man, he was taken to a forest, tied to a tree and abandoned. He managed to break free and get to the Rostov region in Russia by transport moving in the same direction.)
On July 8, in Lugansk, a shell fired by Ukrainian servicemen hit a residential house located at the Suhodolskaya street. The 8th and 9th floors were heavily damaged, three families having flats in this house were evacuated.
On July 8 (at around 19:30), in the Kuibyshev district of the Rostov region in Russia, 800 meters from the Russia-Ukraine border, a mine launched from the contiguous Ukrainian territory exploded. Damage was inflicted to the property belonging to local residents, including livestock.
On July 9, Ukrainian servicemen subjected the resident areas of the town of Seversk (the Pushkin street and the Chernogolovka district) to an intensive artillery bombardment.
On July 9, in Lugansk, an elderly woman died of a fragment wound on the balcony of her house and 6 people were wounded as a result of a shelling by Ukrainian servicemen.
On July 9, Ukraine’s Prosecutor-General V. Yarema stated that 158 crimes had been committed on the Maidan since the end of February 2014. According to his statement, 4 murders, 14 robberies, 73 thefts, 18 cases of the infliction of injuries, facts of misappropriation of means of transport, fraud, drug production, illegal carrying of firearms had been noted over this period of time.
On July 10, the Ukrainian army used 80 mm calibre mortars and 122 mm self-propelled artillery systems to shell Severodonetsk. Projectiles hit residential buildings. A woman living in a ruined house was taken to hospital with a heart attack.
On July 10, the Ukrainian Air Force made air strikes on the settlements of Izvarino, Rovenki, Saur-Mogila (the Lugansk region) and Karlovka (the Donetsk region).
On July 10, the Ukrainian armed forces shelled the Russian checkpoint “Gukovo” (the Rostov region) on the Russian-Ukrainian border, in the vicinity of which there were around 230 refugees from the territory of Ukraine at that moment.
On July 10, in Chervonopartisansk (the Lugansk region), 12 civilians were killed and 30 people were wounded as a result of armed clashes between the militia fighters and the Ukrainian army. Among the deceased victims were a 17-year-old teenager, 2 women and 4 miners going to work by bus.
Russia's population density and GDP per capita is less than half of that of Finland or the Baltics. Who cares what poor people in empty forests think? It's your job to sell Europe cheap gas so end the slowest ever war in Ukraine and get back to it already.
Lots of poor people don't add up to a rich country. I have a feeling you left Russia for a better life in Finland too based on your obsession with it, must be a heck of a cognitive dissonance.
What's purchase power? In Finland everything is extremely expensive unlike in Russia where everything is cheap. Russians with lower wages have higher standard of living than Finns with higher wages.
Finland's poverty rate is 16.9% while Russian poverty rate is only 7.2%.
Estonians, Finns and Balts have been inhabiting their respective lands for more than 3000 years, far before Russia was even an idea. If anything, Russia is a rebelling region of Finland and Estonia because before East Slavic tribes started settling there in the 6th century AD, it was mainly inhabited by Finnic peoples.
Finland and Baltics weren't states before Russia made them. Finland's capital was created by Russia with Russian money and even Finnish language was created with Russian support.
Those in control of the European governments are not our allies. In fact they are hidden enemies working to destroy the US.
We should treat them as the enemies they are. Including eliminating any US funding of their countries, and encouraging even funding patriot groups with those enemy countries to take back control of their corrupted governments.
I believe we will see, when the plan to take back the US government is complete, the US will assist those patriot groups in taking back their governments. We don't destroy the cabal and stop their evil intentions by eliminating them from the US alone.
NATO threatened Russia and Putin said, “we are ready!” NATO said “uh oh” and our part in the treaty only has to with 🇺🇸 defending NATO nations if some other nation attacks them, NOT if NATO threatens another nation.
So is Putin to be considered the guardian of freedom now? I get the sentiments expressed here over the last few years, but I'm not ready to hand that duty over to Putin, Xi, or any of those others.
at times I think of comedy movies. so what if... Rosie O'Donnell (insert anyone here) appeared and took that seat? The fake news says she is the new American NATO.
At this point (not being a doomer) I can see that because no one has been arrested in the upper chambers yet. Tom Hanks runs in the meeting with a white shirt and a face on it and says "here is USA"
NATO is SNAP for governments.
... but without the work requirements.
💯 NATO IS SNAP... is also FEMA, RED CROSS
There is no NATO without the USA and the USA doesn't want to be in NATO because it's nothing but waste of money and has never benefitted the USA.
There is no Europe without America. Ultimate welfare babies. Their entire medical system is due to the fact the US basically defends them. They can out that defense budget into social programs. Programs Americans don’t have. End it. Lutnick said the US has been ripped off since the end of the Second World War. We literally saved them and rebuilt that continent. Now they are trying to pull us into WWIII on behalf of a coke head.
You firebombed German cities with your British buddies to the point that people were getting burned alive in molten asphalt and turned into fatty goo in basements. Millions of civilians genocided for no military gain. You raped thousands of women and children and starved more than a million German POWs to death in Eisenhower's concentration camps after the war. You blocked humanitarian aid and watched German orphans starve in the rubble while holding opulent banquets to celebrate your victory. You murdered your own general Patton when he started calling out the senseless brutality and declared you had fought the wrong enemy. You gave large parts of Europe to Stalin to murder, rape and plunder.
Hollywood movies about what the victors want you to think happened are not the whole story. Saved and rebuilt Europe? More like tried and failed to erase an entire European nation. As for social programs, we can finance those with our 50+% tax rate just fine, thank you.
TY for the reminder. I sadly can't deny this
For what it's worth, I'm not saying the US is evil. It was just clearly controlled by the cabal at the time like most other parties in the war.
Q has asked some interesting leading questions about WWII and the events of the 20th century in post #142. I hope we'll learn the answers to them one day.
I assume you are Euro? I agree with all points. I also agree with Russia recently speaking about their contributions and America being Johnny come lately and the Hollywood narrative. I get it. My comment was based off office story. Wasn’t going down the rabbit hole you presented. But yes. You are absolutely correct. Also the train tracks to the camps were never destroyed. Could have ended a lot of suffering quickly. They didn’t. The real reasons and operations behind every issue in the west is hidden behind false narratives. It’s usually about money, debt and consolidation.
PS, I didn’t do any of that stuff.
Mao killed more, far more all his own people. Without the West you'd be speaking Japanese.
The coke head was just another pawn in the cabal's quest for world domination. The biolabs were meant to take down Russia which under Putin had become a block to them taking world control.
Well said!
No article 5 means no NATO. And we definitely don’t want article 5.
Exactly. The United States should not comply with Article 5 under any circumstances. So what if Russia attacks the Baltic states or Finland? That's not the US's problem.
In fact, Ukraine, Baltics and Finland are historical Russian lands that left Russia during the time of chaos in 1917-1920 & 1990s and are practically rebelling regions of Russia that should be returned back to Russian control.
Very broad brush there, Chukna. Many Russians could say the same about Poland. Or even Alaska. But the Poles would disagree. At any rate, the Finns, Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians all have a say in the matter and most would disagree.
I happen to agree with you on this, do we have treaties with the above nations?
Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are all NATO members since 2004. Finland joined last year. Don't know about other treaties with those nations.
Who cares what those little villages think? They have less people than St. Petersburg.
Your mighty country has failed to overrun a “little village” for 3 years already without sending a million of your own young men to their brutal deaths, maybe sit this one out
He lives in Finland, yet constantly complains about Finland. He is an enigma.
Really? Then he's just like most Russians I know, always want Russia to expand territory while simultaneously never wanting to live in Russia. Bites the hand that feeds (& protects) him.
Russia has never tried to overrun Ukraine, their goal was east Ukraine where Ukrainian Nazis have been mass killing ethnic Russians and they have succeeded. 20% of Ukraine has been liberated by Russia.
So Ukraine (supposedly) has been secretly mass genociding Russians, therefore Russia marches a million young Russian men to their deaths to kill Ukrainians (who they also consider fellow Russians), and continues doing this for 3 years so far killing more Russians and "fellow Russians", all to get revenge for the supposedly secretly mass genocided Russians and save more Russians. Now you've created an actual mass genocide of your own people.
Once you get this small piece of Ukraine instead of all of Ukraine like you wanted in the first place, then what? You've killed many good young men. Your Muslim population will outgrow your Christians. Maybe China will betray you and take Siberia. And absolutely no real technological innovation happens in Russia.
I mean if Russia was just able to overrun Ukraine in a single day, stop this genocide, and save their youth, wouldn't it be the more humane thing to do? Why have they been stuck trying to fight for tiny pebbles from a little village for 3 years?
There is no "supposedly" about it. the OCSE has recorded 14,000 deaths between 2014 and 2022. As for "secretly" it was no more secret than the current situation in Ukraine it is just that it went largely unreported in The West. I wonder why?
What if Russia has no intention to overrun Ukraine? What if it just wants to reduce the partially Nazi army in Ukraine to safe proportions and prevent its enemy establishing bases right on its borders? Remember how the US did not like the idea of Russian missiles in Cuba? Well, Russia feels the same about having American missiles in Ukraine.
Finally, here is an extract from a log for just one week in 2014 detailing the actions of Ukraine:
On July 4, in the Rostov region, in the vicinity of the “Donetsk” checkpoint, Russian border guards and an investigation group were subjected to mortar fire from the Ukrainian territory.
On July 4, Ukrainian security forces subjected the residential areas of Lugansk to another artillery bombardment.
On July 4, in Slavyansk, the shelling of residential areas by the Ukrainian army killed 6 civilians, mostly elderly people who were not able to leave the town.
On July 5, the Ukrainian Air Force made an air strike on the Donetsk airport.
On July 5, in Lugansk, a shelling from the positions of the Ukrainian army killed 1 person and injured 13 people.
On July 5, in the Rostov region, Russia’s “Donetsk” checkpoint was subjected to mortar fire from the Ukrainian territory.
On July 6, in Nikolaevka, the Ukrainian troops once again opened targeted fire against the civilians trying to leave the town.
On July 6, a Ukrainian attack aircraft Su-25 made an air strike on the settlements of Metallist and Alexandrovka located in the suburbs of Lugansk.
On July 6, the centre of Lugansk was subjected to mortar fire. A guard at a motor depot died, 4 people were seriously wounded. A shell hit a Niva-car on Kransnodonskaya street killing 2 people.
On July 7, Ukrainian servicemen used phosphorus munitions to shell Lisichiansk.
On July 7, in Lugansk, according to the information of the Lugansk People’s Republic Health Minister Victor Avakian, 80 people had been hospitalized with injuries of different severity levels within the last 24 hours.
On July 7, in the vicinity of Krasnodon, the Lugansk region, the participants of Kiev’s punitive operation used automatic weapons to attack a bus with refugees, the Ukrainian aviation made more air strikes using phosphorus bombs.
On July 8 (morning), in Lugansk, 2 people killed and 4 people were hospitalized as a result of shell fragments hitting a public transport minibus.
On July 8, the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation initiated a case of kidnapping and torture of a Russian citizen A. Mikhailenko on the ter ritory of Ukraine (On June 19, 2014, A. Mikhailenko was going from the Rostov region to the Lugansk region. During a personal search at a Ukrainian check-point a photograph was found in Mr. Mikhailenko’s phone showing him with weapons in hands at a Moscow military technology exhibition on Victory Day,
May 9. The fighters of the “Dnepr” battalion in Ukraine took away his personal belongings, they were interrogating, beating and torturing him for a week. When they made sure that Mr. Mikhailenko is not a military man, he was taken to a forest, tied to a tree and abandoned. He managed to break free and get to the Rostov region in Russia by transport moving in the same direction.)
On July 8, in Lugansk, a shell fired by Ukrainian servicemen hit a residential house located at the Suhodolskaya street. The 8th and 9th floors were heavily damaged, three families having flats in this house were evacuated.
On July 8 (at around 19:30), in the Kuibyshev district of the Rostov region in Russia, 800 meters from the Russia-Ukraine border, a mine launched from the contiguous Ukrainian territory exploded. Damage was inflicted to the property belonging to local residents, including livestock.
On July 9, Ukrainian servicemen subjected the resident areas of the town of Seversk (the Pushkin street and the Chernogolovka district) to an intensive artillery bombardment.
On July 9, in Lugansk, an elderly woman died of a fragment wound on the balcony of her house and 6 people were wounded as a result of a shelling by Ukrainian servicemen.
On July 9, Ukraine’s Prosecutor-General V. Yarema stated that 158 crimes had been committed on the Maidan since the end of February 2014. According to his statement, 4 murders, 14 robberies, 73 thefts, 18 cases of the infliction of injuries, facts of misappropriation of means of transport, fraud, drug production, illegal carrying of firearms had been noted over this period of time.
On July 10, the Ukrainian army used 80 mm calibre mortars and 122 mm self-propelled artillery systems to shell Severodonetsk. Projectiles hit residential buildings. A woman living in a ruined house was taken to hospital with a heart attack.
On July 10, the Ukrainian Air Force made air strikes on the settlements of Izvarino, Rovenki, Saur-Mogila (the Lugansk region) and Karlovka (the Donetsk region).
On July 10, the Ukrainian armed forces shelled the Russian checkpoint “Gukovo” (the Rostov region) on the Russian-Ukrainian border, in the vicinity of which there were around 230 refugees from the territory of Ukraine at that moment.
On July 10, in Chervonopartisansk (the Lugansk region), 12 civilians were killed and 30 people were wounded as a result of armed clashes between the militia fighters and the Ukrainian army. Among the deceased victims were a 17-year-old teenager, 2 women and 4 miners going to work by bus.
Russia's population density and GDP per capita is less than half of that of Finland or the Baltics. Who cares what poor people in empty forests think? It's your job to sell Europe cheap gas so end the slowest ever war in Ukraine and get back to it already.
Russian GDP is over $2 trillion, Baltics + Finland combined aren't even half a trillion. They're poor little villages.
Average gross salary in Finland: ~4200 €
Average gross salary in Russia: ~850 €
Lots of poor people don't add up to a rich country. I have a feeling you left Russia for a better life in Finland too based on your obsession with it, must be a heck of a cognitive dissonance.
What's purchase power? In Finland everything is extremely expensive unlike in Russia where everything is cheap. Russians with lower wages have higher standard of living than Finns with higher wages.
Finland's poverty rate is 16.9% while Russian poverty rate is only 7.2%.
Estonians, Finns and Balts have been inhabiting their respective lands for more than 3000 years, far before Russia was even an idea. If anything, Russia is a rebelling region of Finland and Estonia because before East Slavic tribes started settling there in the 6th century AD, it was mainly inhabited by Finnic peoples.
Finland and Baltics weren't states before Russia made them. Finland's capital was created by Russia with Russian money and even Finnish language was created with Russian support.
Those in control of the European governments are not our allies. In fact they are hidden enemies working to destroy the US.
We should treat them as the enemies they are. Including eliminating any US funding of their countries, and encouraging even funding patriot groups with those enemy countries to take back control of their corrupted governments.
I believe we will see, when the plan to take back the US government is complete, the US will assist those patriot groups in taking back their governments. We don't destroy the cabal and stop their evil intentions by eliminating them from the US alone.
NATO threatened Russia and Putin said, “we are ready!” NATO said “uh oh” and our part in the treaty only has to with 🇺🇸 defending NATO nations if some other nation attacks them, NOT if NATO threatens another nation.
Good. Fight your own wars, UK / EU cunts
You look ridiculous at >100 yrs old still bicycling with training wheels on
(same goes for you, Israel)
Most politicians in the EU are WEF stooges. Our nations have been subverted by champagne communists decades ago.
It’s funny to watch, the USSR tried to corrupt and control Europe for decades. Communism fails in Russia, just as it starts in Europe.
The EU needs to be completely dismantled and we need to return to sovereign nations. All treasonous public servants need to be exiled.
So is Putin to be considered the guardian of freedom now? I get the sentiments expressed here over the last few years, but I'm not ready to hand that duty over to Putin, Xi, or any of those others.
at times I think of comedy movies. so what if... Rosie O'Donnell (insert anyone here) appeared and took that seat? The fake news says she is the new American NATO.
At this point (not being a doomer) I can see that because no one has been arrested in the upper chambers yet. Tom Hanks runs in the meeting with a white shirt and a face on it and says "here is USA"
could be a comedy for sure.
Yay!!!