WHAT ? To be honest, we have so many people moving here it sucks. Sales tax itself is a bloated cash pig. These politicians will complan locally, but they are ALL filthy rich with a cool 10% of construction in their pockets, they literally paved paradise to put up a parking lot here.
Then when I go to get a way from it to a natural reserve I literally pay out of my ass to do so. I have the coolest boat and the coolest places to go to and complaining about gas is not the problem. They tax the shit out of me every way, including sideways to do so. I have no choice but to run for some kind of office to turn things around. We have a movement here , so watch out scumbags, I am going to audit you and claw back the spoils of war.
Expect the flood to continue as the blue states continue to implode. Also, a certain amount of taxes are inevitable. IMO the best that we can hope for is an honest cost of service model (eg gas taxes that fairly reflect the cost of road maintenance, etc). The problem is that the system is so corrupt and so many people have become dependent on it that it’s an uphill climb to get there.
Hi KD, I am very upset too because they have destroyed all the nature and animals to bring illegals plus their friking kids, that’s why we have to pay a lot of taxes. I am a substitute teacher and 99.99% are from Mexico, Latino America and Haitians in the schools specially in my area which is Naples Fort Myers and all surrounding areas. Can you imagine how many schools we have in Lee county and collier county? All full of these entities people, I call them like that because they believe it. Sick and tired of what they are doing, plus these friking illegal criminals
That seems to me to be replacing one type of tax for another. Instead of paying $2k in property taxes, now you will be paying $2k for additional cost of products you purchase at Walmart, ACE hardware, or a big box store due to the tariffs.
Exactly. The financial burden falls on the backs of homeowners. Renters don't worry about that shit. I had a very different mindset about how my city spent money when I was only in an apartment; I didn't care or pay attention. Now as a homeowner I get so steamed at the constant waste of taxpayer $$ with their stupid pet projects and liberal bullshit. They love spending other people's money, and meanwhile my property taxes keep going up and are sky high. So fucking sick of it.
The Florida House just voted 80 to 30 to eliminate property taxes for homeowners.
That’s one of the boldest tax moves any state has attempted.
The Florida House Speaker called it "the most aggressive property tax legislation ever passed by a legislative chamber in the history of the United States."
That's not a small claim.
And it didn't come out of nowhere.
Florida homeowners have been getting crushed.
Home values across the state have exploded over the last five years.
A house worth $250,000 in 2019 is assessed at $450,000 today in many counties.
The tax bill followed that number straight up.
For retirees and long term homeowners on fixed incomes, that increase hasn't been gradual.
It's been brutal.
Here's what the proposal actually does.
It gradually increases the homestead exemption by $100,000 annually for ten years, reaching complete elimination of non school property taxes by 2037.
Law enforcement and public safety budgets are constitutionally protected, so they can't be touched.
For a homeowner with a $400,000 property, that's potentially $4,000 to $6,000 back in their pocket every single year.
For retirees who did everything right and are now watching inflation and rising taxes eat through their fixed income, that number is SIGNIFICANT.
Governor DeSantis has been pushing this hard.
He's called property taxes "an oppressive and ineffective form of taxation," arguing that as long as they exist, homeowners are effectively paying rent to the government in perpetuity.
But here's the part nobody's celebrating yet.
Florida collects roughly $14.1 billion annually from the homestead property taxes this proposal would eliminate.
That money currently funds fire departments, police, EMS, road maintenance, school districts, and county infrastructure across the entire state.
Nobody has clearly answered where that money comes from instead.
And there's a twist most people aren't talking about at all.
Economists project that eliminating property taxes could actually INCREASE home values by making ownership significantly cheaper to hold long term.
Which sounds great until you realize that higher home values mean even less affordability for first time buyers who are already completely locked out of this
market.
Existing homeowners win.
First time buyers might get squeezed even harder.
There's also a long road ahead before any of this matters.
This still needs Senate approval, which hasn't moved yet.
Then it needs to survive the full legislative session.
Then 60% voter support in a statewide referendum to pass as a constitutional amendment.
That's an incredibly high bar and a lot of places for this to stall, get watered down, or die entirely.
Florida just lit the match.
Whether it starts a revolution or burns the house down is still very much to be determined.
Yes, they did. Now it needs to through some other votes and be place on the 2026 election ballot to be voted on by the citizens of Florida. <- pretty sure that is what is still to happen anyway.
and it will be described in a confusing manner on the ballot on how to properly answer it because literally every human in Florida will want it to pass but be indecipherable jargon.
A lot of nuances here (That @zerodeltatango nicely enumerates in this thread), and I have no doubt it's going to be difficult to shift this economic burden efficiently away from property taxes. Lots of practical challenges here.
But from an ethical perspective, this is wonderful. No homeowner who has paid for their land and home should ever lose their possession to the state because of property taxes. That's not just unethical, it's downright evil. I hope more states follow Florida's lead.
Eliminating those layers of administration mandated by the Dept of Education will be a good start. Look at how much school administrators "earn" and how much we pay for their buildings than we do for actual schools and teachers.
I'm puzzled as to how a state government can change taxes for individual counties.
At least here in NC, there is no state property tax, only county and city property taxes. In the counties I have lived in, if your only income is social security, you are exempted from all property taxes. Also, the property tax isn't just on real estate. If you rent, you have to pay property tax on your stuff, based on the amount of rent. And property tax on vehicles is included with vehicle registration every year, so you have to pay it to drive.
If property tax is eliminated, the money will have to come from somewhere else to pay for streets, roads, police, sheriffs, and all the rest of the necessary items.
Might increase home prices for first time home buyers but ensures no one is forced out of their home due to increasing property taxes and are in fixed income/retired.
Tax revenue shortfall would be made up through vehicle registrations, toll roads, and increase in other services. Spreading out the tax burden allows more breathing room for people to have cash flow.
So basically, this isn't eliminating property taxes, it's eliminating portions of it. And it will be phased out, but only after jumping over other hurdles. As Trump says, Let's see what happens.
This must be for a primary residence. People who own multiple properties will most likely still pay a tax otherwise wealthy buyers will scoop up and hoard everything.
Yeah, they were probably just busy. I do know the last thing we need is a bunch of those types of posts. Go to any random blog or website that isn't moderated and there will likely be dozens of those types of posts. I know I avoid sites like that when I see them.
WHAT ? To be honest, we have so many people moving here it sucks. Sales tax itself is a bloated cash pig. These politicians will complan locally, but they are ALL filthy rich with a cool 10% of construction in their pockets, they literally paved paradise to put up a parking lot here.
Then when I go to get a way from it to a natural reserve I literally pay out of my ass to do so. I have the coolest boat and the coolest places to go to and complaining about gas is not the problem. They tax the shit out of me every way, including sideways to do so. I have no choice but to run for some kind of office to turn things around. We have a movement here , so watch out scumbags, I am going to audit you and claw back the spoils of war.
Do it! We need more frogs in the jungle.
*swamp
kek.
I'm moving down there this fall. Ribbet..
What you say is true, but this is still a huge win for the everyman if it passes.
You've got my vote, neighbor.
Expect the flood to continue as the blue states continue to implode. Also, a certain amount of taxes are inevitable. IMO the best that we can hope for is an honest cost of service model (eg gas taxes that fairly reflect the cost of road maintenance, etc). The problem is that the system is so corrupt and so many people have become dependent on it that it’s an uphill climb to get there.
Hi KD, I am very upset too because they have destroyed all the nature and animals to bring illegals plus their friking kids, that’s why we have to pay a lot of taxes. I am a substitute teacher and 99.99% are from Mexico, Latino America and Haitians in the schools specially in my area which is Naples Fort Myers and all surrounding areas. Can you imagine how many schools we have in Lee county and collier county? All full of these entities people, I call them like that because they believe it. Sick and tired of what they are doing, plus these friking illegal criminals
Amen
I am all for this everywhere-but in my experience, humans don't give up the cash cow so easily.
So the question than becomes, what game of shell are we playing, and where will the replacement tax originate?
Will Tariffs be the new Revenue?
They certainly should be.
That seems to me to be replacing one type of tax for another. Instead of paying $2k in property taxes, now you will be paying $2k for additional cost of products you purchase at Walmart, ACE hardware, or a big box store due to the tariffs.
The difference is that you have control over what and when you buy at Walmart. Property taxes give you no choice.
Exactly. The financial burden falls on the backs of homeowners. Renters don't worry about that shit. I had a very different mindset about how my city spent money when I was only in an apartment; I didn't care or pay attention. Now as a homeowner I get so steamed at the constant waste of taxpayer $$ with their stupid pet projects and liberal bullshit. They love spending other people's money, and meanwhile my property taxes keep going up and are sky high. So fucking sick of it.
Trust me, renters are paying those property taxes in rent. 😅
You are right. Just wondering about that too.
Only positive is once you pay off your house, it is yours. You actually own the land free and clear.
Thats not the only positive, this drives down the monthly cost for those still paying off their mortgage as well
That's a pretty huge positive, not to mention annual cash flow in the meantime.
It should be.
Paul White Gold Eagle
@PaulGoldEagle
The Florida House just voted 80 to 30 to eliminate property taxes for homeowners.
That’s one of the boldest tax moves any state has attempted.
The Florida House Speaker called it "the most aggressive property tax legislation ever passed by a legislative chamber in the history of the United States."
That's not a small claim.
And it didn't come out of nowhere.
Florida homeowners have been getting crushed.
Home values across the state have exploded over the last five years.
A house worth $250,000 in 2019 is assessed at $450,000 today in many counties.
The tax bill followed that number straight up.
For retirees and long term homeowners on fixed incomes, that increase hasn't been gradual.
It's been brutal.
Here's what the proposal actually does.
It gradually increases the homestead exemption by $100,000 annually for ten years, reaching complete elimination of non school property taxes by 2037.
Law enforcement and public safety budgets are constitutionally protected, so they can't be touched.
For a homeowner with a $400,000 property, that's potentially $4,000 to $6,000 back in their pocket every single year.
For retirees who did everything right and are now watching inflation and rising taxes eat through their fixed income, that number is SIGNIFICANT.
Governor DeSantis has been pushing this hard.
He's called property taxes "an oppressive and ineffective form of taxation," arguing that as long as they exist, homeowners are effectively paying rent to the government in perpetuity.
But here's the part nobody's celebrating yet.
Florida collects roughly $14.1 billion annually from the homestead property taxes this proposal would eliminate.
That money currently funds fire departments, police, EMS, road maintenance, school districts, and county infrastructure across the entire state.
Nobody has clearly answered where that money comes from instead.
And there's a twist most people aren't talking about at all.
Economists project that eliminating property taxes could actually INCREASE home values by making ownership significantly cheaper to hold long term.
Which sounds great until you realize that higher home values mean even less affordability for first time buyers who are already completely locked out of this market.
Existing homeowners win.
First time buyers might get squeezed even harder.
There's also a long road ahead before any of this matters.
This still needs Senate approval, which hasn't moved yet.
Then it needs to survive the full legislative session.
Then 60% voter support in a statewide referendum to pass as a constitutional amendment.
That's an incredibly high bar and a lot of places for this to stall, get watered down, or die entirely.
Florida just lit the match.
Whether it starts a revolution or burns the house down is still very much to be determined.
We have to wait and see. I would love to be without property tax because it is not legal.
I thought it already DID THAT?
Yes, they did. Now it needs to through some other votes and be place on the 2026 election ballot to be voted on by the citizens of Florida. <- pretty sure that is what is still to happen anyway.
and it will be described in a confusing manner on the ballot on how to properly answer it because literally every human in Florida will want it to pass but be indecipherable jargon.
Haha…exactly!!
Florida here. Correct. It still has to pass the Senate before we can vote on it in November. This keep making the rounds as if it’s a done deal.
I think it just happened.
A lot of nuances here (That @zerodeltatango nicely enumerates in this thread), and I have no doubt it's going to be difficult to shift this economic burden efficiently away from property taxes. Lots of practical challenges here.
But from an ethical perspective, this is wonderful. No homeowner who has paid for their land and home should ever lose their possession to the state because of property taxes. That's not just unethical, it's downright evil. I hope more states follow Florida's lead.
If done correctly, this would be a beautiful thing.
How will the schools be funded?
I never saw a school board that didn't love school bonds.
Eliminating those layers of administration mandated by the Dept of Education will be a good start. Look at how much school administrators "earn" and how much we pay for their buildings than we do for actual schools and teachers.
School choice.
I'm puzzled as to how a state government can change taxes for individual counties.
At least here in NC, there is no state property tax, only county and city property taxes. In the counties I have lived in, if your only income is social security, you are exempted from all property taxes. Also, the property tax isn't just on real estate. If you rent, you have to pay property tax on your stuff, based on the amount of rent. And property tax on vehicles is included with vehicle registration every year, so you have to pay it to drive.
If property tax is eliminated, the money will have to come from somewhere else to pay for streets, roads, police, sheriffs, and all the rest of the necessary items.
Don't ask a brain-dead. I wouldn't know.
Good! My property taxes are $800 a month. Figures that they’ll end it right as I’m moving out of state.
You serious? 800/a month? You have a house half of Mar Lago?
I am serious. We bought the house in November. In January, the county voted to up their taxes, and the property tax nearly doubled.
wow, worse than WA.
It hurts. I’m in the process of selling now.
Question for Floridians - Weren't we promised some sort of property-tax refund in 2025? Never got one.
Not Floridian, don't know.
Might increase home prices for first time home buyers but ensures no one is forced out of their home due to increasing property taxes and are in fixed income/retired.
Tax revenue shortfall would be made up through vehicle registrations, toll roads, and increase in other services. Spreading out the tax burden allows more breathing room for people to have cash flow.
I am thinking it will be a good idea if done correctly.
I think so as well and it is going to done in phased ramp up to help local communities find the funds outside of property taxes.
So basically, this isn't eliminating property taxes, it's eliminating portions of it. And it will be phased out, but only after jumping over other hurdles. As Trump says, Let's see what happens.
If we get rid of Federal Reserve, a lot will change including this.
We can hope and pray. We can hope and pray, fren.
Definitely.
Where I live, we pay no city taxes, but we do pay county taxes.
Does that mean all of it will be gone?
This must be for a primary residence. People who own multiple properties will most likely still pay a tax otherwise wealthy buyers will scoop up and hoard everything.
That is correct, homesteads only - the only TRUE NON-PROFIT!
Good idea.
GTFO.
Guess the mods need more than one deport click 🤷♀️
Yeah - are we low on mods? This one is very low-hanging fruit.
Maybe only the night shift deports! kek oopsie…it was deleted. It is very confusing sometimes who is replying on what. (It might be just me)
Yeah, they were probably just busy. I do know the last thing we need is a bunch of those types of posts. Go to any random blog or website that isn't moderated and there will likely be dozens of those types of posts. I know I avoid sites like that when I see them.