I read through this thread on X about Spielberg’s Disclosure Day. Segura makes some interesting points. I thought I would share his thread here for discussion if people want to read through his thread and chime in.
Link https://x.com/TonySeruga/status/2060750008442634612?s=20
https://nitter.net/TonySeruga/status/2060750008442634612?s=20
I want to see this movie only to see how much Cabal symbolism I can spot and to see what the narrative behind the plot veil really is. But I'm gonna wait til a decent pirated version is out to see it because I don't give Hollyweird my money for [their] crap [they] call entertainment.
This is a good write up. I don't even need to watch it now.
I had the same reaction. I may have to make an exception just so I can be in the know.
Good excuse to [EAT MORE POPCORN] and sugary drinks like Cherry Coke.
Could be whitehat symbolism. Why do you assume it’ll be cabal? They lack control overall that much is clear
Great write up, TLDR: they're replacing God with aliens. Now all the alien stuff makes sense.
There is a Single Source of All Things. (As opposed to 0, 2, 3, ..., n, inf, etc. truly distinct (topologically completely disconnected) Sources.)
Other than the most extreme type of narcissist (which is intrinsically contradictory), all religions and/or philosophies and/or cults and/or investigations (including both The Science and all of legitimate science, math, information theory, etc.) all agree with that statement.
But that doesn't mean that there wasn't another entity (another Derivative of Source, possibly another spiritual entity or other physical entity ("The Aliens")) that modified (and/or created) the species that we call Homo Sapiens sapiens for their own purposes. While it's far from certain (plenty of reasonable doubts), there is a fair bit of evidence that supports that idea. Even the book we call "the bible" supports that statement substantially; especially if you look further afield than the "Canonical 66" (most Protestant versions) and/or use it as an archeological document rather than "Written by God (YHWH, the god of the Jews and/or Israelites) exactly and perfectly."
As far as I'm concerned, it is proper to be skeptical of your beliefs and other evidence that both supports and casts doubts on them, no matter what the "source" may be. Any other method of investigating evidence is nothing but dogma (AKA following your programming/brainwashing).
Once you truly appreciate that ALL THINGS come from Source (and what that implies), only then will the next veil be revealed. I don't know if that will be revealed in Disclosure, but there is a lot of stuff out there in the zeitgeist right now that is showing that quite dramatically.
Why THAT is (according to my investigation), is an evidence chain that will almost certainly not be in this movie.
Interesting read. However, I don't understand how the existence of aliens would somehow disprove God, even in the hinting that aliens created humans, that still would have no bearing on the God question.. Outside my window is the Rocky Mountains, you could say God created those. I could counter and say actually it's geological processes, tectonic uplift and subduction. And that would be true, but then all of underlying reality and physics was made by God, so God would still be the ultimate cause and creator of those mountains.
Likewise, if aliens created humans, God would still be the ultimate creator. Even put aliens aside for a minute, if someone believes that God created humans, is it a valid counter for me to say "No I was created by my Mom and Dad"? I don't think it would be, so obviously when people claim God made humans, they are talking about a causal chain where God is the root. So again, I have no clue why people think aliens or somewhat "different origins" of humanity than we thought, would have any bearing whatsoever on whether or not God exists.
Even Q team wanted to keep a certain percentage hidden for humanity sake. So... in reality there are always gatekeepers regardless of their intentions. We have fused chromosomes. There was a fuser.
I think there is obviously unknowns and I do not think the human written Bible captures everything there is to say about everything. It's also not a reasonable argument to say, well God did it. Very dangerous when a human thinks they are the interpreter as opposed to observer/example. A human trying to interpret what God's intentions are is the basis for all religions.
I truly believe how humans handle the removal of Religions from our world, while continuing to be examples of the way, the truth and the light, will be whether we enter another dark ages. We either learn to walk as Jesus did, because it is THE way, or we get pulled off track and follow a path given to us by man. Faith in Jesus, I have come to see, means more than following someone else interpretation of what faith in Jesus even means.
That’s a fair point. I think this becomes an issue if ETs were to say that they were God and that they created not only us but all of life on Earth. A big sticking point with me would be how do they answer the question - Who is Jesus?
Apparently some aliens claim that Jesus was the incarnation of the "Logos", another word for God or the "Galactic Mind".
https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/1ekwfc1/jesus_as_a_recurring_principle_of_the_logos/
Dang ol' bible thumpers take issue, I reckon.
Exactly. It's the same when atheists claim there is no God who created us because life on this planet was SEEDED BY COMETS.
It's like, OK but...how do you forget to ask who created the comets??
Blue beam. They are actually going to try it.
I will stick with God, thank you.
I’m thinking the same thing.
My wife and I, and I think most Christians, believe all the alien encounters are just demon interactions. It wouldn't be hard to believe that Satanic entities are pretending to be aliens from another galaxy in an effort to try to disprove the Bible, or generally discourage Christians. We (Christians) are warned about deception in the end times. This would be a pretty big deception :)
Agreed, and now I'm wondering if some of the "encounters" were elaborately staged theatrical shows with the victims being half sedated designed to create vocal evangelists for alien kidnappings.
And if they ever trot out living, breathing aliens, they will have been created by human-animal hybrids to look that way, and told that they are descended from aliens who crashed landed, so even these creatures will believe the lie themselves.
I really do hope you’re right about the most Christians part.
Mt 24:24 ESV For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
That's my thoughts on the matter
It does seem to be that way.
Hey boonies, check this out…
Prince of Egypt: https://youtube.com/watch?v=H4qkIlfBDo4
Close Encounters of the Third Kind: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aVORAHW2qJg
What’s up with the 5 notes?
I literally have no idea, good eye though. I thought at first it might be that artists might be the same for both movies but Prince of Egypt is Zimmer and Close Encounters is Williams. It would be interesting to check the Psalms to see if David used a 5 note theme for God but I have no way of checking that other than to ask AI.
No returns. Did go ahead and get the notes though.
Close Encounters G - G# - A - G# - G Chromatic rising and falling motif, mysterious
The Prince of Egypt E - F - G - F - E Stepwise rising and falling melody, lyrical
I’ve always thought of math as the universal language for everything. Music is the embodiment of math in sound. At least that’s how I look at it in my very limited scope of things.
You’re correct about that, though I can’t really offer any insight on it.
Relevant though, maybe? https://qagg.news?q2=142
Spielberg has to be a captured asset at this point.
I would think so; someone with that type of clout has to have been a participant, either willing or unwilling, and therefore in the know to some level.
What the fuck are you crying about handshake
This article asks many questions...
Questions that deserve careful contemplation.
https://qalerts.app/?q=Jun+12
This was excellently written. Spielberg is a cabal propaganda asset pushing a psyop.
No aliens are here. All of it is us.
I read the Segura thread. I saw the Glenn Beck video.
And the first words that came out of my mouth were, "What a bunch of crap."
Spielberg is far from the only director to make alien disclosure / suppression conspiracy movies. The original was 1951's "The Day the Earth Stood Still," by Robert Wise (forget the pathetic 2008 remake). The aliens vs. God question was very interestingly treated in M. Night Shayamalan's "Signs" (2002). Need I mention "Mars Attacks" or "The Arrival" (both 1996) for evil alien dudes?
Beck's take on A.I. put me in mind of Alvin Toffler's "Future Shock" (1970), where he predicted we would all dissolve into neurotic jelly at confronting the pace of the future's advent. I read the book when it came out and, on finishing it, concluded it was bullshit. Good call. And Beck now believes an Algorithm can be dedicated to every single individual for the purpose of being that individual's sole, genius-level Svengali by use of subliminal suggestion? He has no conception of what that would entail, or of the limits of A.I. So, I'm not buying into his apprehension.
This is not a psyop. This is advertising hype, and the deliberate insertion of incoherence to produce mystery, a bogus narrative strategy that Edgar Allan Poe called "mystification." But it could easily fit into an atheist "push" by higher levels in society. I have arrived at an explanation of NASA's obsession with "finding life" on other planets, as being their earnest (desperate?) attempt to find evidence for Darwinian evolution, and thus dismissal of God. This search is much to the detraction of getting human boots on the surface of other planets. The fact that we have so far been drawing blanks on that search is starting to get on their nerves.
Interesting post. I don't agree with every assertion but I certainly agree with plenty of them.
The idea/concept of non-human intelligence being here on Earth causes zero spiritual/faith issues for me. Nor does the concept of NHI's tinkering with our genetics.
Our souls are gifts from God, our bodies are merely containers. God gives us free will, including free will to non-human entities. Whether their manipulation of our genetics is for positive or negative reasons, I do not know. But I do believe that those who have (possibly) done this will be judged for it, Either positively or negatively depending on their ambitions.
I believe demons and the concept of true evil are very real, but I certainly don't believe in the evangelical view that "all aliens are demons". After 30+ years of researching this subject, I simply do not see the evidence for that assertion. But that certainly does not preclude that some of these entities are less than benevolent towards us.
What I do believe is that God's plan is far more grand than just this little mud ball we call Earth. He has a grand, spectacular plan. He also gave us the gifts of free will and critical thinking. So I for one will not be making any assumptions, rash decisions, or allow my faith to be shaken. God's plan is a big, complicated one.