it's very odd... my thought was landmines for the next administration... but the person above is right, Biden will just undo it and the media will not report on it and largely nobody will care.
My guess is these need to be done as who ever is going to be in charge after Trump wants these things done.
That’s exactly what happened, and also, that ruling wasn’t only about “did the president have the authority to overturn a prior executive order.“ It had more to do with the specific executive order, Re: DACA
Fucking... Probably. It would be unprecedented for the same court to so blatantly play politics in such a short time, I'd imagine, but then again... I feel that pedophiles serving as chief justice is unprecedented as well.
They can if they find that some of the justices were compromised during the case. The new Justices are only bound by precedent via precedent. They have every right to re-rule on past cases if they see something egregious was overlooked.
Either way, it gets recorded in the books and when people do finally come around to educating themselves, and if Biden does in fact reverse this EO, those people will find out it wasn’t the Trump administration against them at all. It was actually the DS.
Venezuelans hate Maduro. They hate what has happened to their country.
We might not know what goes down with POTUS until tomorrow but regardless, this is good for Venezuela and the whole world.
I think it shows that we know the DS’s playbook and we’re awake. In fact, not only are Americans now awake, the whole damn world is awake now.
Sometimes the media will prop up some guys, only to turn around and label them a threat to the free world.
Funnily enough I never did my research on the whole thing so I'm pretty ambivalent about Chavez.
But what's happening in Venezuela is what may happen to the US.
But you know. Guns :D
Well, for one, it opens the door to undoing EO.
If Trump still believe somehow in democracy and voting in the US, and wants back in, and they undo his EO, first thing in he'll undo a bunch of EO too, like Obamacare and etc...
I work with Venezuelans every day. They know what having 'two presidents' is like.
They are red-pilled peeps - at least all the ones i've met. Can't blame 'em for seeking asylum here. Hell, if things got that bad here, I might seek asylum somewhere. Principality of Sealand looking pretty good TBH.
Yeah. It's been going on for like at least a decade lol.
Every couple of years it heats up and starts to gain some international media attention. The international community usually lends verbal support to the opposition. But it always fizzles out within a few months because (1) only criminals ("collectivos") and corrupt police & military have meaningful access to firearms, (2) whoever the current head of the opposition is always gets jailed or exiled, and (3) people keep trying to seek a peaceful resolution.
Nothing's going to change there until either there's foreign intervention, or Venezuelans are ready to die in order to take back their country.
Trump's been the most supportive of the opposition of any U.S. president in a long time.
I was born in Venezuela and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in high school.
I can tell you, when Trump hosted Guaidó (the current opposition leader and rightful president) at his last State of the Union, he secured the vote of every U.S. citizen of Venezuelan and Cuban origin. We're all immediately repulsed at the slightest whiff of leftist, Marxist, authoritarian bullshit.
Yep, for a couple years they had two men each claiming to be President and half the world recognizing each. I lost a job prospect because of it, the sanctions against Venezuela caused the project to be canceled and the open position evaporated.
That was the 2nd time international events cost me a job, the 1st one was when I was going to work on the design of a new oil refinery in Iraq and then suddenly ISIS popped up. I've joked that politics screws with my career so much that I might as well just become a politician anyway.
Interesting the main point of the memorandum is to allow Venezuelans to stay here longer to protect them from the danger there, its deferring removal. I guess like asylum. And so reinforcing Guaido as leader not maduro. Def intetersting choice of a last minute order
Just think about this, if Trump thinks no one will be president for a while, he might be setting things up for the military and trying to think long term.
"This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country."
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
The deteriorative condition within Venezuela, which presents an ongoing national security threat to the safety and well-being of the American people, warrants the deferral of the removal of Venezuelan nationals who are present in the United States.
So, President Trump has made it so that illegal Venezuelans have immunity for 18 months as long as they’ve been here continuously and not broken any of our other laws?
A quick search says executive orders have to be overturned by Congress. So, it’s not just Biden reversing them. However, the current congress would obviously do the bidding of a Biden - Harris administration. So, these are land mines in some way, but they are in effect until reversed.
The EO does reaffirm it. This is a very strange EO to do on the way out is my point. And yes, he did do it before, that is definitely my fault. But if I wasn’t aware of this info, then I’m sure a lot of others weren’t as well.
Repealing these EOs are not going to red-pill anyone. The press won't report on them if Xiden does undo.
It can only mean that they will stay intact.
Exactly! What's the point of signing EO's you know are going to be undone less than 24 hours later?
it's very odd... my thought was landmines for the next administration... but the person above is right, Biden will just undo it and the media will not report on it and largely nobody will care.
My guess is these need to be done as who ever is going to be in charge after Trump wants these things done.
Scotus said president doesn't have authority to "undo" previously issued EOs in the DACA case.
That... That might happen.
So then, signing EO's you know will reside in enemy territory would be really foolish.
Trump isn't foolish.
only if you're a doomer
That’s exactly what happened, and also, that ruling wasn’t only about “did the president have the authority to overturn a prior executive order.“ It had more to do with the specific executive order, Re: DACA
Only if he remains as CJ Roberts, and is not ID'd as Lolita Express Roberts...
Just like obama had free range on immigration issues but Trump had his hands tied on the same
The same SCOTUS that has failed to uphold the constitution any time it mattered? Any POTUS can rescind an EO of any previous POTUS.
Naaaaaa handshake.... Replay the DACA one
Can they re-rule on that?
Fucking... Probably. It would be unprecedented for the same court to so blatantly play politics in such a short time, I'd imagine, but then again... I feel that pedophiles serving as chief justice is unprecedented as well.
Updoot fren.
They can if they find that some of the justices were compromised during the case. The new Justices are only bound by precedent via precedent. They have every right to re-rule on past cases if they see something egregious was overlooked.
So then, signing EO's you know will reside in enemy territory would be really foolish.
Trump isn't foolish.
Either way, it gets recorded in the books and when people do finally come around to educating themselves, and if Biden does in fact reverse this EO, those people will find out it wasn’t the Trump administration against them at all. It was actually the DS.
Venezuelans hate Maduro. They hate what has happened to their country.
We might not know what goes down with POTUS until tomorrow but regardless, this is good for Venezuela and the whole world.
I think it shows that we know the DS’s playbook and we’re awake. In fact, not only are Americans now awake, the whole damn world is awake now.
PAIN!
I'm more balanced regarding this Chavez/Maduro thing.
Not claiming I'm an expert, but the whole "Chavez evil dictator" stuff doesn't add up.
Sometimes the media will prop up some guys, only to turn around and label them a threat to the free world.
Funnily enough I never did my research on the whole thing so I'm pretty ambivalent about Chavez. But what's happening in Venezuela is what may happen to the US. But you know. Guns :D
These EO's are written with great detail and a comprehensive understanding of the urgency, associated.
Perfect timing. One may say, Military Precision.
The Precision in your post produced....
!!!WEAPONS GRADE HOPIUM!!!
Could be advertising for his re-election campaign, give people a taste of what they can expect from a second term.
Not sure how he would expect to win reelection after the biggest steal in history though, but its an occams razor style interpretation
Well, for one, it opens the door to undoing EO.
If Trump still believe somehow in democracy and voting in the US, and wants back in, and they undo his EO, first thing in he'll undo a bunch of EO too, like Obamacare and etc...
They cant undo them supreme court already told Trump he could not undo Obamas. EO are made to never be broken so they cant just suddenly change.
How about if the "president" who signed the EO is found guilty of treason and was never eligible to hold the office in the first place?
That's because Trump wanted to undo Obama's. I'm sure they will green light Xiden.
I'm glad someone finally said it. Lmao.
Guaido will be present for Bides inauguration.
This is very far from truth. Sorry
What am I missing?
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/01/19/joe-biden-invites-venezuelas-guaido-ambassador-to-inauguration-keeping-trump-policy/
Seriously- tell me
What did I miss, honestly?
Also, it's not an EO. It's a Memo.
This doesn't sound like a President that is going anywhere IMO.
he very well could be going but I Biden wont get in there.
I felt God say on election night that He would do something different. Neither of them might be president for a time and that would fit.
I wonder if they used Dominion Voting machines
it was made by venezuelans for maduro
No Chavistas!
I work with Venezuelans every day. They know what having 'two presidents' is like.
They are red-pilled peeps - at least all the ones i've met. Can't blame 'em for seeking asylum here. Hell, if things got that bad here, I might seek asylum somewhere. Principality of Sealand looking pretty good TBH.
Of course they did.
They were made for Venezuela.
Kek!
Going straight to the heart of dominion corruption!
There's been so many good things coming from Trump and Pompeo, it will make it all the more heartbreaking if sweeping action doesn't occur.
Was there a revolution in Venezuela that the media didn't tell us about?
Yeah. It's been going on for like at least a decade lol.
Every couple of years it heats up and starts to gain some international media attention. The international community usually lends verbal support to the opposition. But it always fizzles out within a few months because (1) only criminals ("collectivos") and corrupt police & military have meaningful access to firearms, (2) whoever the current head of the opposition is always gets jailed or exiled, and (3) people keep trying to seek a peaceful resolution.
Nothing's going to change there until either there's foreign intervention, or Venezuelans are ready to die in order to take back their country.
More specifically I meant a successful revolution. I know there's been unrest there for a long time.
Oh yeah, not successful.
Trump's been the most supportive of the opposition of any U.S. president in a long time.
I was born in Venezuela and became a naturalized U.S. citizen in high school.
I can tell you, when Trump hosted Guaidó (the current opposition leader and rightful president) at his last State of the Union, he secured the vote of every U.S. citizen of Venezuelan and Cuban origin. We're all immediately repulsed at the slightest whiff of leftist, Marxist, authoritarian bullshit.
Yep, for a couple years they had two men each claiming to be President and half the world recognizing each. I lost a job prospect because of it, the sanctions against Venezuela caused the project to be canceled and the open position evaporated.
That was the 2nd time international events cost me a job, the 1st one was when I was going to work on the design of a new oil refinery in Iraq and then suddenly ISIS popped up. I've joked that politics screws with my career so much that I might as well just become a politician anyway.
Many attempts, all crushed by their truly fascist regime
Maduro was installed via a rigged election. The message may be that we do not recognize rigged elections.
Interesting the main point of the memorandum is to allow Venezuelans to stay here longer to protect them from the danger there, its deferring removal. I guess like asylum. And so reinforcing Guaido as leader not maduro. Def intetersting choice of a last minute order
It seems like the people of Venezuela are in true need of asylum. Unlike others who claim asylum without true cause.
I would like a C130 full of cash please.
Just think about this, if Trump thinks no one will be president for a while, he might be setting things up for the military and trying to think long term.
Not sure how you got "We no longer recognize Maduro as the president of Venezuela" out of that EO...
Looks like it's guidelines for issuing visas for Venezuelans to me...
", and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country."
AH! That's what I get for scanning instead of reading! Thanks, fucker!
Yep...BINGO
"This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country."
It's right there.
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
This Administration has imposed sanctions against Maduro and his regime, and I have recognized the President of the Venezuelan National Assembly, Juan Guaidó, as the interim president of the country.
2nd paragraph...
This isn't about standing up to Maduro. This is the action of a compassionate man.
Please pray for all Americans and the world. The tyrants will pay. The tyrants are the reason for the division.
He is saying venezuelan citizens can stay here for 18 months
One more reason to suspect that it is not over yet.
I tried to go to sleep early, I really did, but I woke up and now sleep is becoming less and less of an option.
So, President Trump has made it so that illegal Venezuelans have immunity for 18 months as long as they’ve been here continuously and not broken any of our other laws?
I might like this.
If you read the EO it’s about not removing any Venezuelan nationals from the US. Trump has not recognized Maduro since the Venezuelan election.
These are quantum seeds to destroy socialism, he is a master.
A quick search says executive orders have to be overturned by Congress. So, it’s not just Biden reversing them. However, the current congress would obviously do the bidding of a Biden - Harris administration. So, these are land mines in some way, but they are in effect until reversed.
Not an EO. Just a Memorandum. Don’t know the specifics but by its name (order vs. memorandum) implies the latter carries less weight / standing.
Just my thoughts
Nothing to see here. Isn't everyone sleepy?
The EO does reaffirm it. This is a very strange EO to do on the way out is my point. And yes, he did do it before, that is definitely my fault. But if I wasn’t aware of this info, then I’m sure a lot of others weren’t as well.
did you read the eo? He says that venezuelans can not be deported for another 18 months
Wow that was a good one!
It appears the EO has been pulled from whitehouse.gov...at least I got a 404 message when following the link
Pompeo yesterday:
Can't make sound policy without being honest about the threats we face.
Example: There are not "moderates" running the Islamic Republic of Iran. "Moderates" don't give a home base to al-Qa'ida.
Example: You can't appease dictators like the ones running Venezuela and Cuba. That way danger lies, for both America and the people of those nations.
Example: The Chinese Communist Party is not our friend.
https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1351582696619839489
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Joe fucking Biden will be executed for TREASON before the end of May.
Screen cap for proof.
Am i in TDW? TF you on about 'joes term'
GA = TDW + HOPIUM
GA - HOPIUM = TDW
GA - TDW = HOPIUM
?❤????