Couldn't they just Chinook those containers onto the aircraft carrier deck and crack them open one by one? And when you've got the intel the U.S. navy has, you don't have to crack them all open, just the ones with the bad stuff
Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
Don’t hate me I’m just trying to be real here. If we’re talking about 20k containers, what’s a fair amount of time to assume it would take to move each container by helicopter? 7 mins all in?
Let’s use 7 just for an example.
20,000 x 7 mins = 140,000 mins total or 2333 hours. Even if you had 12 Chinooks working round the clock, that would be like 200 hours of non stop work.
But the thing people are forgetting here is that the ship was refloated first. So it was likely moved to a part of the Suez Canal where they have Quay Cranes. Quay Cranes are built to offload those containers. If it was refloated and brought to a part of the Suez Canal where there were Quay Cranes ready and waiting they could off load it very fast. I don't know why everyone is assuming they did it by chopper.
It says right in the article the ship was FREED and then unloaded. I'd assume once they freed it they used the tugboats to pull it to port and used Quay Cranes to unload.
I couldn't believe all the commenters who seem to think they'd do it by helicopters. That'd be a huge waste of resources. I'd assume that once it was free they either used floating cranes or took it to a cargo port with Quay Cranes available. That's a way more obvious answer. The ship was freed and likely tugged to where it could be unloaded.
Based on your extensive expertise in this subject... right? Spouting your own opinions of topics you know nothing about as if they were facts... Flaming Fucktard.
Lmao, yes based on my extensive expertise doing exactly that for 5 fucking years on the same fucking carrier they are going in with. And that doesn't account for.the other 15 years I had dojng.shit.like.this. so the guy you shit on is correct and you...not so much. .
The point is that it is a big job. The ship seems to be in an area devoid of container cranes which will not help but 20,000 containers at one a minute 24 hours a day is over 13 days continuous work.
If it takes 5 minutes each or they stop working when it becomes dark you can start multiplying that up. Five minutes each is a couple of months altogether.
So are you saying it takes months to load and unload a shipping container that size? Seems pretty inefficient for an industry that relies heavily upon efficiency.
Good thing cargo is designed to be unloaded/loaded. What’s the point of your comment?
Do they have unloading docks in the Bitter Lake?
Unloading a full cargo ship vessel in the middle of the water would take a week just to make a solid plan - if it were even possible.
Couldn't they just Chinook those containers onto the aircraft carrier deck and crack them open one by one? And when you've got the intel the U.S. navy has, you don't have to crack them all open, just the ones with the bad stuff
Tell them there is unlimited free beer and whiskey once they get done and you'll be amazed at what happens.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook#Specifications_(CH-47F)
Empty weight: 24,578 lb (11,148 kg) Max takeoff weight: 50,000 lb (22,680 kg) Capacity: 24,000 lb (10,886 kg) payload
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_container#Specifications
Your average 40 foot container filled full of stuff is probibly twice what a Chinook can lift. The container alone(8,598 lb(3,900 kg)) is a little over one third of its lifting ability. Maximum gross weight 68,008 lb (30,848 kg), almost 3 times a Chinook's lifting ability.
Pretty much every heavy lift helicopter on the planet maxes out in the 10-15 ton range (20-30,000 lbs). If you ever see them lifting containers they are most likely empty or filled with light bulky things like toilet paper.
CH53 is yhe better Helo for that kind of weight.
90 % of the containers are well within the lift capacity of the M-26
How many Chinook's to lift the whole boat? or do we not want it ashore again?Happy Frog has Chinooked eyes
Plus a few extra just to make it look hard
Don’t hate me I’m just trying to be real here. If we’re talking about 20k containers, what’s a fair amount of time to assume it would take to move each container by helicopter? 7 mins all in?
Let’s use 7 just for an example.
20,000 x 7 mins = 140,000 mins total or 2333 hours. Even if you had 12 Chinooks working round the clock, that would be like 200 hours of non stop work.
But the thing people are forgetting here is that the ship was refloated first. So it was likely moved to a part of the Suez Canal where they have Quay Cranes. Quay Cranes are built to offload those containers. If it was refloated and brought to a part of the Suez Canal where there were Quay Cranes ready and waiting they could off load it very fast. I don't know why everyone is assuming they did it by chopper.
It says right in the article the ship was FREED and then unloaded. I'd assume once they freed it they used the tugboats to pull it to port and used Quay Cranes to unload.
It gonna look weird with just the US involved. Has to look like an international discovery. Optics!
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I couldn't believe all the commenters who seem to think they'd do it by helicopters. That'd be a huge waste of resources. I'd assume that once it was free they either used floating cranes or took it to a cargo port with Quay Cranes available. That's a way more obvious answer. The ship was freed and likely tugged to where it could be unloaded.
We move freight onto our ship by help. It's fast, efficient and doable.
We do all this while still moving next to another ship. It's called underway replenishment and we are the only navy in the world that can do it.
If the ship is configured for it Nd they have no other unloading facility then this is a great method.
just unlatch the tailgate, get up to speed, and slam on the breaks ....
That assumes that this wasn't planned since before day one of initial incident.
You get the updoot.
Based on your extensive expertise in this subject... right? Spouting your own opinions of topics you know nothing about as if they were facts... Flaming Fucktard.
Lmao, yes based on my extensive expertise doing exactly that for 5 fucking years on the same fucking carrier they are going in with. And that doesn't account for.the other 15 years I had dojng.shit.like.this. so the guy you shit on is correct and you...not so much. .
The point is that it is a big job. The ship seems to be in an area devoid of container cranes which will not help but 20,000 containers at one a minute 24 hours a day is over 13 days continuous work.
If it takes 5 minutes each or they stop working when it becomes dark you can start multiplying that up. Five minutes each is a couple of months altogether.
I’ve worked at a port it takes 2-3 days to unload about 20k containers docked, out on the water with a crane might take a extra day two at most
Who's to say the containers haven't already been opened/looked at on the ever given. A handful were flagged to be inspected?
So are you saying it takes months to load and unload a shipping container that size? Seems pretty inefficient for an industry that relies heavily upon efficiency.
It dosent relay on that kind of efficiency. Its months to move most of those boxes.
I am saying if they do one a minute it will take 13 days. Is my math(s) not correct?
So what? Is it only the last container that contains whatever would be damning?
At over 1200 feet long, that ship could accommodate 4 or 5 helps at a time. Still, ibthink they know what they are looking for.
I also think they want that ship isolated right where it is and time is now on their side.