Don’t want to doom here, but what’s next if “Trump cant be reinstated”- according to Jenna Ellis
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I can't agree with her. While her point is based on Constitutional law, just letting it be when fraud is proven cannot be allowed. That is basically saying if you can get enough people to commit the fraud with you, you win. Sets a bad precedent.
Fraud vitiates everything.
Came here to say this. None of what she said matters, everything was fraudulent
This doesn't mean anything.
I have to remind everyone - even if massive cheating is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, it does not affect Biden's status as President. The Electoral College did not cast fraudulent votes. You can claim that the electors were chosen incorrectly or illegally, but that's not for you to say, and it's not for a judge to say. The several States' legislatures have plenary powers in this matter. They could have flipped a coin to choose Biden electors if they wanted.
Ellis is right. But nobody should be frustrated by this just because your fantasy scenario doesn't manifest.
Let Biden/Harris be removed the right way. Resign in disgrace or be impeached. Let Trump return to office in a way that grants him the maximum length of his term.
"Be impeached"? Are you kidding? They couldn't impeach (remove) Trump whom they hated with the fibers of their demon souks.....they would NEVER impeach one of their own....
But you are saying "they" as in Congress as it exists now. I am speaking of a new congress where those that were elected fraudulently are removed from the body - a much smaller Congress and a Senate with 20 or so- fresh Senator's appointed by their state's governors.
I don't think Jenna is part of the Q team nor is she read in on what the Military plan is, so it doesn't really matter what she thinks. We are in uncharted waters. But Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer will be removed for treason. I believe that the Military will conduct another paper ballot election and Trump will remain as POTUS (probably with a 410+ electoral college vote landslide).
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I agree 100%....
She is strait up wrong. The only precedence set is that the person with the most electoral college votes is president. If the states change there votes, Trump is president.
But can they legally do this after an exposed fraudulent certification?
Not only can they do it, but every senator and house of representatives member who certified it committed fraud against the American people as well.
I mean did they though? It’s not like they knew. Maybe they could claim being in a “state of distress” like when that fucker in Detroit (Ned BLM Stabler and the other Muslim guy) harassed the Republican into certifying and then she decertified only to certify it again…
I would that that would have to be a defense after they be arrested. The I didn't know defense. There is absolutely probable cause to assume they all knew and chose to do it anyway. Problem being mass load of them have said that the recounts are bogus. which means either they never looked into it and they have no idea if they are bogus or they spent time looking into and came to that conclusion.
Claiming you thought there weren't bogus isn't a good defense, I didn't know would be better. Once they said anything publicly about it, they can't say I didn't know anymore.
Of course they can't change their votes. There was an election - Biden was elected, by the Electoral College via the means laid out in the Constitution.
Yes they cheated. But there was no fraud in the Electoral College.
But the electoral college itself was defrauded by the fake, and illegal vote count. Their (EC) votes were based on fraud, and therefore their votes are indeed fraudulent.
The EC could try to claim "but we didn't know that we were aiding fraud." But I don't think that absolves them of their crimes- they still cast their EC votes knowing that some states violated constitutional law by changing election laws without the consent of state legislatures. The EC is party to the election fraud whether they like it or not. Every one of them that cast votes based on fraud need to be arrested. In fact, everyone who certified the election needs to be arrested too, for violating their oath to uphold the constitution!
How would that happen, and where would it leave us? Pence, and the republican party had an obligation, and a duty to stop this goddamned mess before it got to this point. They must all pay for their sedition.
Honestly, there is enough reasonable doubt between the media and statements made by officials that they could be held blameless in thinking that everything was above board, and that Trump and his supporters were just sore losers.
Most people haven't done the digging that we have and only get their news from mainstream sources, if they even seek out news at all.
No, they cannot play that game. The president of the USA publicly stated that the election was a fraud, and there was visible evidence to support that fact, and they certified it anyways. When the commander in chief says something like that, it is the duty of the senate, electors, and other officials to follow the lead of the president, not second guess him. They knowingly certified fraud.
Bullshit....the electors are to be determined/chosen by the legislators.... NOT the SOSs or the AGs of the states. Most of the swing State's Legislators sent elector slates for Trump and they were ignored going against the Constitution.... So...the electors chosen were part of the fraud.... Stop shilling....
No, that's actually not what happened, friend. Not a single Legislature acted as a whole to decertify any slate of electors. There were some groups of legislators that sent strongly worded letters. Which means that basically every legislature consented to what was being done.
If you can show me otherwise, I would be glad to learn about it.
The Constitution clearly states that presidential electors must be appointed according to rules established by each states legislatures..... This clearly did not happen in 2020....
Yep, I'm looking at the Constitution:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress
The Legislatures directed the appointments, and they were perfectly fine with the manner in how those appointments got carried out because they didn't do anything to correct or contradict those appointments. And remember, sole legislators don't carry any weight.
^^^ THIS is what gets me worried. Cheating was done “by the people” and election was done “by those who represent the people” so, like you said, no fraud in electoral college, rather fraud on the lower level… makes you wonder how things will play out when fraud is exposed
My hope is that they are exposed for corruption or taking bribes to look the other way as massive cheating went on. I hope a RICO case can be built, and yes, I hope some are executed for treason.
What pisses me off is even if this was true ..it’s not ! Why the fk would she post something like this , who the fk does she think she is? She’s a c attorney who stood in the background because she doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground ..the fact that she thinks she’s all knowing Is what gets me
I would not be surprised if they paid for. There are only 5 people we know are on the Q team. Trump, Dan Scavino, General Flynn, Mike Pompeo and Ezra Cohen Watnik. The rest may have pieces of the plan, but not the whole plan. So I wouldn't worry what ellis does.
wont be reinstated because he still is the real deal holyfield baby
New election in August with no mail in and Dominion software and Trump rolls by 20%
Clearly nobody had explained to her how fraud works in a functional justice system.
I think the biggest offender was Pat Cipollone.
I’m not understanding why people are downvoting my post (and not that I really care). It’s a serious question which concerns me and wanted to see if there was a logical (or even strategic) reason behind the statement
There's a good reason for her statement: it's true. The constitution is easy to read and straightforward, and there are no procedures for undoing a vote. She's simply explaining it. Nor is there a procedure for summoning the electors to reconvene the electoral college. I suppose the house and senate could change votes, decertify and recertify, but the constitution does not give them that power.
To me it's just her leading up to "the military is the only way."
But it's not the only way. Prove enough fraud to change congress. Forced Biden resignation or impeach and remove. New Speaker of the House succeeds to the presidency.
You could be right, but Q has often said it's the only way, so I assume that's the plan.
Honestly speaking (and probably more Downvotes coming my way) but idk if the military will save up or Trump. I mean just take a look at what the military is doing these days. Years ago they were cheering loud for Trump, now they want to ween out “extremists” aka non marxists and implement CRT… among all the other things like transgender things and women allowed to wear makeup and stuff. I honestly don’t see hope in the military saving this. I’d really like to be wrong on this one too.
I have a feeling the military's wokeness has a large portion of movie magic.
The constitution is a relatively short document. It doesn't say much about treason at all, except that's it's a cause for arrest and impeachment, and Congress shall determine the punishment.
There's a lot of ways Trump can be president again; it's just that the constitution doesn't provide a path for "messed up election - reinstate previous president."
I'm all for Trump coming back. It's possible Trump is still president, so no reinstatement would be necessary. Devolution, while not specifically in the constitution, was made possible through legislation, which is in line with new elections run by the military, followed by a Trump inauguration. There are many possibilities, it's just that a simple swap of one president for another runs completely counter to all the laws currently in place.
And the law of war manual has procedures that would be applicable in the devolution scenario. It's public information, and easy to read but hard to understand.
There were many weird things happening right at the end there, culminating in the bizarre request by the President that we come to Washington DC for a lackluster rally appearance.
The jan 6 'capitol riots' were a necessary piece to this.
And then the fencing off of the Capitol...
Except for one little thing, well maybe not so little, President Trump signed an insurrection act before he allowed this to occur. Military recognize the fraudulent election and know the real vote count.They monitored the whole thing. They the Dems cheated and were caught. So any and all involved would be criminally responsible. Do I have this explained right? The whole country saw that Trump won on the night of the election. Then by some fairy dust and miraculous events we woke up the next day to a whole other ball game. Bait and switch. When they did their dirty deeds. Criminals need to be held accountable. So this whole scam was the real insurrection. President Trump is the real Commander and Chief. He is in control of the military, and will return as our President.Thank God.
I agree with NapalmDeath, but looking at all four Ellis tweets taken together, and things others have been posting recently, makes me wonder if some are trying to "groom" us Patriots into accepting a different outcome than we want.
Tell you one thing, Jenna Ellis is not going to convince me to change my mind. Don't really care for her.
I'm still giving it more time, atleast until we get some audit results. Things do seem to be happening but it's really frustrating letting the plan play out. I wish I could speed up the process just a little.
I also thought that fraud makes it null and void. So which one is it? I swear she seems like the nicest best player on their team (dems).
The difference here is it is more than impeachment; if they’re implicated in this fraud, it’s treason, no?
Possibly, but sedition would be a more likely criminal charge. Also, one of the major qualifying prerequisites for earning a treason or sedition charge is that the perpetrator must knowingly commit the act. Helping someone to commit treason is not grounds for a treason charge unless person knows they are helping someone commit treason.
She’s always been a Never Trumper, look into her.
I’ll be deleted again (on this “free speech” board), but Trump has transcendent confidence, but people at this level are afraid to follow through. His hiring track record is not good.
I believe Q and I believe people suck ass.
I pray I’m wrong. I really do.
He did not have the best track record for hiring people because his recommendations came from swamp rats and those who have turned on him. Hopefully he has some trusted advisors now.
Fair point and I agree. But for Q shit to get real, all 10 (per Q) have to hang in. Trump has conveyed confidence in big positions who have not worked out.
Do we see the magnitude if 1 or 2 don’t hang in?
True there were those that were deep state. However he put Fauci front and center and made folks aware of who he is. Now he is being exposed for the criminal that he is. No one would have known who he is or what was being done in this country. So did President Trump make mistakes in his hiring, Hmmm?? He is a master chess player and a genius never underestimate him. The media makes him out to be a buffoon we all know the media lies to put him down. Look what he accomplished for the country all the while under opposition. He is a phenomenal man.
Did she??? Interesting ?… any sauce to this?
Yep.... She's never-Trumper
She is incorrect fraud will reverse everything and treason. Biden will be removed and Trump put in. The very worst that would happen is the election being run again.
What does that mean, "Biden will be removed?" A military coup? That sets a very bad precedent - every President from now on will be seen as weak and illegitimate for fear that the military will remove them or that they are just a figurehead for the military.
Sounds like a challenge to me!
Jenna Ellis was/is a never-Trumper.... Trump allows those who oppose him to walk off the cliff on their own volition.....
Jenna strikes me as a good, aspiring attorney. Not a seasoned one. Nor do I have any reason to think she is on "Team Q". Everyone plays a role, knowingly or unknowingly.
Disinformation is necessary. She has no clue
If Martial Law is approved or if the Military in control now due to Trump signing the Insurrection Act, Trump could certainly be appointed by the Military to be acting President until new elections are held in 2024. Then, Trump will run again and win giving him 11-12 years of being POTUS.
Sounds good to me.
Very interesting theory
This bitch also said that using martial law was absurd. She seems entirely weak if not outright complicit with the bad guys.
So according to Jenna, I rob a bank, the police catch me and the money, I get to keep the money? Cool...!
What does the Constitution say about voting machine shenanigans and fake vote dumps? ...Exactly...
Wasnt it mentioned about making an amendment to make her point invalid? Constitutional lawyers may be hired to amend the law so trump can be reinstated or something
This. Women belong in no position of power. This country was created by God and men. Change my mind idgaf.