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– axrevolutionai 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

I disagree completely. Wearing a mask without any mask mandates and taking the vaccine shows exactly where you stand. It makes you an enemy of the truth and logic.

Vaccines, not all. CHOICE. Trump was aware 100% people would research and make their own choice.

No one should be willing to take an experimental vaccine over a virus, whether it be man made or natural, that killed only .033% of the population (which was mostly already on deads door) The vaccine is dividing people only because liberals are too brain dead to understand why someone wouldn't want it.

The fact that even Trump supporters are willing to take the vaccine shows our educational system and out moral fiber has completely failed us. It shows the media has absolute power over a large percentage of the population and that we have a lot of work to do in rebuilding philosophically. The 1776 Commission was probably the most important thing Trump did because it addressed what we needed to do to fix America in existentialist terms.

As it stands we live in a country of breeders with no purpose other than being a consumer, reproducing, and dying. The patriot, the idealists, the warriors, should not be rare breeds. We must push our nation towards American exceptionalism and returning to the divinity our country was founded on. Mask mandates, fear campaigns, none of it would exist if civics, ethics, and logic were a part of the very culture of America again.

No one should have supported mask mandates when there were conservatives making logical arguments as to why masks don't work. Now we see even Fauci agreed with us on masks. Anyone who willingly wears a mask when not required to is not a free thinker or a patriot.

Do you think Trump did daily press meetings on COVID for us? Do you think he did warp speed for us? Do you think he did ventilators for us? No, he did that for the liberal mob. He did that for the news media. He did that so that normies wouldn't turn on him completely. If Trump hadn't done any of that, Biden or whatever puppet the DNC put up would have actually won the election with real votes.

Trump did everything for optics, because it was the only way the cabal would be forced to steal the election. I woud have loved to see Trump destroy BLM, slam China, say the truth about COVID, etc but all it would have led to was an actual legitimate Biden administration and full steam ahead on the Great Reset.

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– Silo101 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Not only was Trump aware that we would do research he is counting on it. We are the model for the new citizen. The old model of listening to the TV to make your decisions is obsolete, we are going to be people who are independently educated and base our decisions on facts and logic, not just listen to daddy government or whatever the good looking man on the TV says

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– Wokism 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Thank you! I wore a mask for a few days during the whole “15 days to stop the spread” campaign. Once I saw that was a lie, I stoped completely. I live in a deep blue area. Most often I was the only person out in public without a mask. Now it’s about 50/50. The point being, if you couldn’t muster enough courage to not wear a mask, you don’t have any critical thinking ability and are actually part of the problem! And don’t even get me started on the vaccines as that’s a whole other level of stupid for those that fell for that NWO agenda.

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– pnwhomebrewer 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I had to build my way up. First it was the gas station stores and the 7/11’s. Then it was the grocery store and corporate chains.

Eventually I only wore my mask at some small businesses cause I didn’t want them to get a covid fine because or me and the local coin shop cause getting my shiny is more of a priority.

One of my favorite moments of this year was in March when I went to Safeway without a mask on and two skater kids saw me and took theirs off.

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– Wokism 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Congrats on overcoming your fear! In doing so you encouraged others to do the same! This is the way. Never submit to fear. Easier said than done at times I know. To quote Thomas Paine, “ These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.”

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– Rollndtx 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Exactly! Also I noticed that the dems had ZERO problem telling people they weren’t going to take a vaccine that Trump had anything to do with.

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– corrbrick 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Didn't stop them though. All the rabid TDS types I know, including close family, took the jab.

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– MakeAmericaWinAgain 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

No masks for me!! But I did stay home to “flatten the curve” for 2 weeks. Then proceeded to live my life

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– pnwhomebrewer 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Well said! This is one of the best comments I have read on here in a long time!

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– fluffmiceter 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Many of us live in areas where our lives would be ruined if we didn’t comply with the rules. How can you berate someone for succumbing to coercion by every authority on this planet to take the shot, when the alternative they were faced with was losing their job, being unable to be reemployed, letting their families go unsheltered and unfed?

I personally know quite a few Trump supporters who took the shot. When you are being forced into taking it, and the only person you could even hope to trust, Donald Trump himself, is telling you to get it? Yeah, I can see why people end up taking it.

So with that said, if you’re going to scold and berate people who aren’t fortunate enough to keep their livelihood without taking the shot, then fuck off.

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– corrbrick 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You, unfortunately have to include innocent children in this.

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– MakeAmericaWinAgain 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Not sure if planned by white hats or what. But the economy is a super-mega-yuge bubble that’s ripe to pop. This is going to be huge. Think 2008 x100.

Everything is about to go very very wrong very fast.

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– GEOTW 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

I haven't seen this point made yet but, I remember Trump was pushing Eli Lilly and Regeneron... he kind of mentioned the other "vaccines" as a side. I remember that interview in particular, right after he recovered. He said something like, "I want to give this to all Americans for free." I never got the impression that he was pushing Moderna, Pfizer, etc, specifically. He just said "Operation Warp Speed", "Eli Lilly", and "Regeneron" a lot.

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– corrbrick 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

And if he did ever push a vaccine, it was the J&J traditional vax,

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– Heckles 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Well said.

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– test_pattern 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

• Operation Warp Speed is much more than fast tracking vaccines. It also fast tracked and got EUA on Regeneron, similar monoclonal antibody therapy, and stockpiled 1.5 million doses for priority treatment.

• EUA for experimental vaccines does not mandate anyone take them. This has been upheld in court - even for military, who can't get out of [approved] vaccines.

• In reality mRNA technology was already on deck for distribution; big pharma just looking for the opportunity to release it. If Trump had not assisted Big Vax, they would have launched a media campaign showing how ready and safe and effective it these are, but Orange Man Bad is keeping people from having them.

• State and Local governments, corporations, Federal agencies requiring employees take an experimental vaccine is not lawful and is being challenged in court. Healthcare providers do not seem to be giving adequate informed consent. Trump consistently said he preferred therapeutics to vaccines, but supported freedom of choice; he did not/would not mandate masks or vax.

But here's a couple questions/considerations:

• What happened to vaccines needing subzero temperature storage?

• How were so many shipments of vaccines "missing" under Trump? (I will make a separate post detailing these reports)

• Would it be possible that the major portion of deadly vaccines were substituted with a placebo or attenuated antibody? Would that explain how so many have taken the vax with no ill effects? How many who receive the vax are still not protected from coronavirus?

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– ToxicLibertyism 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

Trump blocked travel from China, and the deep state bureaucrats ignored his orders, and are entirely responsible for the heightened magnitude of the disaster. Notice how the MSM doesn't talk about that?

Trump put Pence in charge of the rona response. Pence was working for the deep state. See how that turned out? Trump pushed for every other medical treatment available, prior to the mRNA vaxes, but all other treatments were denied by deep state bureaucrats. Trump was left with no other option, except to act on the recommendations of deep state bureaucrats- had he denied them, they would have impeached him. Remember how Nancy timed her witch hunt impeachment to coincide with covid? He had no choice in the matter. Pence, and the deep state are wholly responsible for exasperating the disaster, and for whatever happens in the future with THEIR vax. They own the rona response, not Trump.

If anyone can imagine a better scenario had Trump rejected the deep state vax, and told the public "don't take it, HCQ, Regeneron, or [insert better medicine here] is a better option," I'm all ears to hear how that would have played out.

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– Cyberhawk 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I’ve never had a problem with people wearing mask as much as people pushing mask on others. If a person wants to wear a mask outta fear fine, just don’t encourage others to engage with your fear. Most of these victims are casualties of a complete lack of information, or misinformation, as the media engages in CIA lvl of indoctrination, fueled by our enemies(like China)constantly.

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– Stumpycake 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

You. I fucking like you.

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– 5547 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I believe the first vax under Trump were safe. After xiden took up residence they incorporated faUci/gates concoctions into the mix. That is why it is hit and miss. They are using Wuhan created bioweapon s vax

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– Gold-Eyed-Cat 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0
  1. We never forced anyone to mask/unmask. They are the fascists.

 

  1. The jab is not a vax.

 

  1. The jab has killed people.

 

  1. Trump forced them to make their move before they were ready.

 

  1. Only God knows how this ends.

 

  1. Paragraphs are nice. :)

 

  1. N.C.S.W.I.C. and I'm glad we are on the same side.
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– Gold-Eyed-Cat 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Oh! 8. There has always been a cure for chy-na virus. A couple of them.

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– corrbrick 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Rooting for #6!

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– deleted 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0
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– AlecLeamas 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

It only makes sense, with the DS desperate to get more ppl to take the experimental gene therapy shot, that they would send shills to this board to try to undermine legitimate questions about the shot and the people who dare to question the DS script.

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– SmackerXX 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Thanks for the perspective!

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– Americanapplepie 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Take my updoot for not being afraid to speak your mind and not caring about the possible string of downdoots and keyboard lashings will ensue. You’re not necessarily wrong and your points are also something I wrestle with in my own head as well. I don’t really speak on it bc I haven’t really concluded one way or the other and tbh, I have shied away from really thinking about it too much. Was it a necessary evil? Idk. Are we at war and the collateral damage from the rushed vax be far less than whatever would’ve come out of not having it, knowing that [they] wanted complete global shutdown and lockdown? I believe yes and probably so and hopefully, we will never know. Great post and respect for speaking your mind bravely.

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– QforSweden 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

It’s obvious to me that the vaccine was a spanner in the works for the cabal. And it’s obvious they didn’t like it. Don’t take the Trump vaccine said Pelosi and Andrew Cuomo until they realised that people were going to take it anyway and they would end up giving Trump credit.

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– raver9876 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Trump gave money to pharmaceutical companies to make a vaccine quickly. From that point some of the vaccine companies made shit that may turn out to be deadly. That was their decision. Some people are going to need to get slapped in the face with the death of somebody they’re close to due to poisonous vaccine. Words were not working, but watching your wife die a week after taking a vaccine might be an effective persuasive technique.

Despite the fact that we know that the election was stolen for Biden, still maybe about 30% of Americans actually did vote for Biden. Those people need a punch in the face. Right now we’re seeing America takes several punches in the face and even people like my parents are starting to wake up to some of it.

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– Silo101 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Okay but what was Trumps alternative? Just let the DS do things the way they want to so that hes not technically responsible? As many have said the DS would have made this lockdown go on much longer then a year and it would have destroyed the economy. Who knows what they would do with a vaccine if they had years to develop it.

Trump talked about cures like HCQ maybe even more then he spoke about vaccines, and he hasn't forced anyone to take a vaccine. Trump isn't our daddy, its not his job to decide these things for us, he gave us all a lot of information and alternatives to the vaccine. Its OUR decision at this point, are we smart enough to see through the propaganda, research for ourselves and make an informed decision? Or are we gonna listen to the establishment and doom ourselves.

Do you think Trump and all of the people who are working to take down the deepstate want a bunch of people who can only listen to what they see on TV on their side? No they want the way people think to change, for us to think for ourselves and be independent. Like Q said, This is the only way, It has to be this way.

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– PompeiusMagnus 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You may be Chair Force, but I agree with you 110%.

Our movement is about discernment, research, and questioning everything.

Bravo, Chief.

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– WinstonO1984 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The Vaccine WAS NEEDED to destroy the Deepstates Global RESET Period end of Sentence. Even the Evil Dwarf and Scarf Lady were saying it was going to take years. That was ALL they Needed to LOCK US Down. IF One took the Jab...that is on them. To this Day NO one can MAKE you take it. That is why they are trying to Bribe idiots with Food, and a Lottery system.

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– 94f450d 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

We are at war.not everybody knows this.there will be casualties in war.thats just how it is.

Before the vaccine shit. Trump tried pushing therapeutics.dems called him crazy.

Dems kept pushing for vaccines.the public believes thats the only way back to normal.

The info is infront of everybodies faces.everybody has access to it.the vaccines are emergency use authorization,not fda approved. We have the right to try law.

They dont want to learn about the jab before getting it.thats on them.its thier right to try it if they want.

We all just need to realize that our friend and family circles might be getting smaller.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut ......... On the other side of things.we could be being fed wrong info on them just to make us look stupid.we just dont know.

The safest bet is to not get the death jab and wait to see what happens.

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– Tharin 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You are a first order thinker, simple minded, discernment

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– TexasAggie85 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

very well said!

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– Big_League_Trump 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You raise some very valid concerns. It's important for us to keep searching for the objective truth no matter where it leads and what it may do our prior assumptions.

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– Monomial 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Trump is a man exceedingly careful with his words. For everyone trying to make excuses for him, stop. Trump believes the vaccines are safe and recommends we take them. He has said so full stop. There was never even a hint of equivocation in his statements. Look how clever he was responding to questions about whether he would run again in 2024. If he wanted to play word games about the vaccine, and appear to support it while also allowing for his supporters to assume the opposite interpretation, he would have done so.

Right or wrong, Trump is pro vaccine. It isn't because it is the lesser of 2 evils. He isn't being forced to say this due to circumstance. Listen to how he speaks about it. He fully supports it. Take that to mean what you will, but either we are wrong or he is. He accepts that it is our choice not to listen to him, but he doesn't agree with us.

Honestly, I don't know what that means, and I can't reconcile this in my own mind. But I still won't be taking the jab. I believe Trump is simply wrong on this one. It would seem he is proud of what he accomplished with Operation Warp Speed, and wants everyone to participate. The only thing I can think of is that he knows there is an antidote to this spiked protein toxin already available, and will introduce it as soon as all this silliness is over.

If that isn't true, then I am completely at a loss for any other logical explanation. I can't deny the truth simply because I wish to, but at the same time I find it baffling.

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– nasty_pelosi 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Logged in just to upvote.

Everyone is entitled to do their own rational risk analysis regarding the vaccines. If someone isn't doing this, they are likely victims of brainwashing. Not much you can do but feel a little bit sorry for them. For older folks in high risk groups, the experimental vaccine probably makes sense. On the other hand, parents who are vaccinating their kids are total assholes.

The mask thing is similar. Only N95 masks are effective, the rest are just a fashion statement. For some it is religious. I treat it as such, freedom of religion and all that.

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– OutOfBubbleGum52021 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Until proven otherwise in a court of law, the kung flu is and ordinary annually flu strain. And the vaccines are harmless saline solution.

If the JABS are harmful AND the white hats knew about it, they can all go in the firing squad too as far as this People is concerned.

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– PopTartGun 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

"I don't accept the 'this is a war' disclaimer. You can't intentionally target non-combatants in war" (AFChiefRet).

  • The history of war refutes such a statement. The phrase "collateral damage" serves as the pretense and euphemism for targeting non-combatants intentionally and inexorably. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Dresden manifest three examples only.

"You expect me to believe that anyone who wore a mask or took the jab isn't a Patriot?" (AFChiefRet).

  • The rhetorical question reveals the unstated assumption that patriots can compromise their conviction. The mask can serve as a subterfuge or a means to an end expediently. In contrast, patriots target themselves as non-combatants by taking the vaccine intentionally. The actions political of Donald Trump bears no fault or responsibility for the choice of patriots to become casualties of the vaccine.
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– Deplorable_Doofus 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

My guess is that the people who developed covid-19 (and the vax) have effective treatments for the long term conditions. When it is said "we have everything" that includes the secret treatments that were only meant for the DS crowd.

I believe that Trump is confident enough to let his own daughter take the vax, to show us not to be afraid. The good guys are in control.

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– TheSkipperTwo 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Why doesn't someone ask Trump this question directly?

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