I like your posts and your idea about IQ is something i would like to respond to in future.
For now, though. You said people with high IQ tend to have more original thought?
Maybe, but.
Sticking with Eric Hoffer and my original statement about the educated high IQ people not having original thought and the anger that arises.
Hoffer said intellectuals do not work with their hands and have no real world experience.
They have no original thinking because they are trained and educated like a seal. (swim in ocean kind, lol)
But, take a plumber that is called out to a house with a backed up toilet. This person has the knowledge of his training, but encounters a new problem they have never seen.
They figure it out in real time with original thinking.
They worked with their hands and were original thinkers. The customer just wants their shitter to flush, but that plumber goes home so satisfied and happy at what they accomplished.
IQ tests are a joke. The purpose of an IQ test is to convince everyone that they have an above average IQ, which means they are “smarter than average”.
Once you convince stupid people that they are actually smart, they tend to identify as liberals.
And then these liberals assume anyone who doesn’t see the world the way they see the world must be stupid, crazy, or sadly uneducated and ill-informed.
I was actually saying the opposite. IQ tests scores are artificially inflated, to the point where everyone has a triple-digit IQ, my own included. Everyone i know is smarter than me.
mine was done by professionals, during a court-ordered psychological exam, while i was locked up. their conclusion was that i should be incarcerated long-term, or else i would become a quote, "master criminal". i won't say what my IQ measured, but it seemed rather inflated to me. fortunately the judge was lenient, and i turned my life around...
but anyway, i'm very skeptical of their professional assessment, given that I'm usually the dumbest person in the room, unless i happen to be hanging out with you... ;-)
Having a high IQ doesn't make you a liberal. Plenty of people with high IQs are liberty-loving patriots. But going to a liberal college (most of them), where you're indoctrinated by lying Marxists for four years, might make you a liberal.
They think they superior than the rest, they’re defeated by their arrogance. IQ is not everything. Silicone valley foreign workers all have high IQ and they’re just glorified slaves.
Intelligence ought be highly correlated to a mind inquiring enough to test the veracity in what they are being told, the reputation of the teller and what their history of being honest or dishonest is, evaluate the likelihoods of the outcomes that the tellers insist are the risks that justify extreme responses, look for motivations that might be leading people to deceive based on profit or blackmail, and all the rest of the standard intellectual set of tools.
If they cant do this, or dont have the time, or whatever excuse they come up with, I dont accept they have the gifts they claim to. Regardless of whatever tenure or professorship they hold.
I agree 100%. Some would argue people like us overthink everything. They are wrong. We think down all the logical paths that look to be possible for the issue at hand. We don't stop when we find the answer that suits us, we continue to think until we come up with the most likely correct answer as well as multiple less likely outcomes.
The problem with the masses, they don't even look for the first outcome, they simply think, why would they lie about this. Except to them this is a rhetorical question. While a thinking man dissects this "rhetorical" question.
I may put this up as a post, would be a good meme if done right.
At this point I’m wondering if the masses think at all. It looks to me like many have been told what to think - in other words they just parrot out what they’ve been told.
When you catch them in a logic fallacy, they freeze up (as their matrix glitches). You can see it in their eyes and then you get angry dismissal, emotional condescension and the end of the conversation.
They don’t want to actually think or to know actual truth; they want to “be right” and feel “safe”. Even if that means a divergence from the truth.
I have seen that matrix glitch look, you are right, they get emotional, will either get angry or try to make a stupid/funny comment to change the subject.
Here is my go to example of the matrix glitch look. In the movie "Passengers" start at the 13:00 mark when Jim walks into the bar and has a conversation with the android bar-tender Arthur. It's a great awake / normie conversation. At the 14:08 mark Jim says "well I woke up early". And then at the 14:20 mark Jim asks Arthur "how is it that I'm sitting here with you with 90 years to go?". You have to see Arthur's matrix glitch facial response and then he says "it's not possible for you to be here". Now every time I watch or hear a normie deny all logic and reality my mind sees Arthur's matrix glitch.
Depending on the person I'm talking with, I'm learning to really enjoy that moment, it used to drive me nuts, feels like progress now though. When they pause in that moment of mental venerability slip in another good-sized redpill for added effect.
Hey Qasar. I thought you might enjoy my response to patriot_legend since we are all on the same page with the matrix glitch response. If you get a chance to see the part of the movie I referenced I think that may be your go-to matrix glitch example too.
Thank you for posting a link. I assumed too quickly there wasn't an on-line video of that section. Arthur sure is condescendingly confident he knows what's what.
In my own personal experience, i’ve found it hard to believe that anyone would lie to me, probably because thats not how i think. I don’t think the average human mind is wired to understand lies, or the concept of lying, or the idea that what they are being told is the opposite of the truth. Its kind-of a next-level way of thinking, to be able to lie, or to be able to tell that someone else is lying.
Evolutionary pressures imposes these things for people whose ancestors grew up and lived in places where trust and honesty within the tribal or societal group was paramount. Where liars were driven out or exiled because one dishonest person threatens the life and wellbeing of the entire group. So there is a natural selection for trust.
Cue today with migration from other entirely foreign groups who developed very differently and lie constantly about everything, even to each other... when mixed into a high-trust society, the damage is impossible to understate.
There are some dumb people who are intelligent but have no education to magnify that into something good, and there are dumb people who have an education that just regurgitates the same bullshit they're told.
You can see scenario #1 in hood rats who are somehow incredibly crafty, handy, able to cook up drugs in some cases, evade capture and being killed, and very good with money in the least expected ways. If they applied themselves and got a good education, there are a multitude of potential paths that are legal and wholesome for them.
Cuz they have no real world experiences in anything.
8m a high school drop out.no GED nothing as far as education. I'm a mechanic but can do or build anything. I consider myself the smartest person I've ever met. Many people will tell you I may act dumb but and the smartest Fulkerson they know.
I don't know everything but I know a little about everything.
88 years old. He had a lot of years to fuck up students to. If hr quit over a mask he planned to leave anyway. He used the mask to make a virtue signal. All he showed us is he is a fool and should never have been in a classroom to begin with.
He also screwed all the kids who signed up for his class, probably over a hundred, who now have to scramble to find a seat elsewhere to get their semester credit.
He likely intended to quit this way all along because he's a narcissist. He picked out that student just to make the class hate and shame her. Evil bastard.
These people are so brainwashed they do not even realize how ignorant they look. All these vaxed people worried about people wearing a mask. Then why did you get vaxed morons
We STOP quitting, we stand strong! Even in the evil environment that we don't agree with.
They start quitting. They're weaker than us. They don't have that moral strength and they're not backed by the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit.
And that's how we survive, we retain our jobs and those stupid and evil go away, no matter where, ... until they learn.
First off, we need hard term limits, not just for elected officials, but for teachers/professors, bureaucrats, Drs/nurses, cops, military command leadership, bankers, etc. Once you hit the offically listed Social Security retirement benefit age, it should be mandated you retire. It is a fact that the older you get, the less in touch you are with the youngest generations, ESPECIALLY in the teaching community. There is no reason why someone in their late 60s, 70s, and especially 80-90s should still be in the work force, in NAY capacity other than being a part time cashier at a grocery store. It will also help to curb any unwanted propagandistic indoctrination. We also need to end the practice of "tenure" in our schools, colleges, and universities. I'd like to go back in time and beat the ever living snot out of the person who came up with that "program." It's done nothing but help destroy our world.
While I agree with you with regards to the elimination of tenure, your age-related ideas are far-fetched IMO. The world would be a far sorrier place without the contributions, perspectives and experience of patriotic older generations. Just picture POTUS scanning your groceries at your local Publix.
You can point to examples of the worst of any group - by age, color, race, sex, etc - and denigrate the entire group if you want, but I think that’s unproductive at best.
Airline pilots have mandatory retirement at age 60. As for medical professionals, I agree. Maybe 65 isn't a bad age to retire. As a nurse, slightly older than that I have to say the job is becoming physically more demanding. Cognitive stuff is still very good, but I'm beat by end of a shift and I work eight hour shifts. I know for sure I couldn't work for twelve hours and still be very effective.
Twitter is a cesspool. Universities are a communist brainwashing facilities. Lucky me I graduated before this COVID bullsht hit. American colleges are absurd and blatant money grabbers. I’m so sick of this effing mask mandate I’m losing my last stretch of patience. Trump needs to get back to the office ASAP, we’re already neck deep in the gutter.
I am not a mask wearer. In this case though I would have probably complied since the man was obviously scared for his life and in the highest risk group. Having said that, it is time for him to retire or ask ask the university for remote accommodations.
(PANIC) Dr. Jacob Vigil exposes censorship, breached confidentiality, and the Deep State's fear of disclosure of their depopulation agenda from being communicated across public university (Microsoft) communication systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl7I2KYvwcg
Fuck the professor. They all should quit. Brainwashed communists.
Eric hoffer said it is because they are highly educated with a high IQ, yet never have an original thought.
They are aware of this and it makes them frustrated then angry.
This leads to a crash and burn everything mentality.
Hoffer describes it better than i just did, but this is a main part of it.
Kinda like believing your own "press".
Rooftoptendie,
I like your posts and your idea about IQ is something i would like to respond to in future.
For now, though. You said people with high IQ tend to have more original thought?
Maybe, but.
Sticking with Eric Hoffer and my original statement about the educated high IQ people not having original thought and the anger that arises.
Hoffer said intellectuals do not work with their hands and have no real world experience.
They have no original thinking because they are trained and educated like a seal. (swim in ocean kind, lol)
But, take a plumber that is called out to a house with a backed up toilet. This person has the knowledge of his training, but encounters a new problem they have never seen.
They figure it out in real time with original thinking.
They worked with their hands and were original thinkers. The customer just wants their shitter to flush, but that plumber goes home so satisfied and happy at what they accomplished.
Rightfully, so.
IQ tests are a joke. The purpose of an IQ test is to convince everyone that they have an above average IQ, which means they are “smarter than average”.
Once you convince stupid people that they are actually smart, they tend to identify as liberals.
And then these liberals assume anyone who doesn’t see the world the way they see the world must be stupid, crazy, or sadly uneducated and ill-informed.
I was actually saying the opposite. IQ tests scores are artificially inflated, to the point where everyone has a triple-digit IQ, my own included. Everyone i know is smarter than me.
mine was done by professionals, during a court-ordered psychological exam, while i was locked up. their conclusion was that i should be incarcerated long-term, or else i would become a quote, "master criminal". i won't say what my IQ measured, but it seemed rather inflated to me. fortunately the judge was lenient, and i turned my life around...
but anyway, i'm very skeptical of their professional assessment, given that I'm usually the dumbest person in the room, unless i happen to be hanging out with you... ;-)
You are correct about IQ tests. They are BS today.
Good story about my dad.
He was given an IQ test when he was in elementary school. Scored 145.
He dropped out of school in 8th grade.
Joined navy when he was 16.
He scored as high as you could on initial test. Corporations took notice.
Exxon offered him full school, room and board as well as a stipend for food and fun.
My dad turned it down. Said, why woukd i go to work for this company when i can make one myself.
Btw, he took the navy IQ test and scored 160.
He was not a functioning autist, but i can tell you this. He had a full rolodex, but never used it. He had every name, adress and number memorized.
When beepers came out, he required me to memorize every customer name and number.
People with over 140 IQ are rare and they are amazing.
A lot of people walking around today that think they are smarter than they are.
Probably a part of our problem.
Having a high IQ doesn't make you a liberal. Plenty of people with high IQs are liberty-loving patriots. But going to a liberal college (most of them), where you're indoctrinated by lying Marxists for four years, might make you a liberal.
They think they superior than the rest, they’re defeated by their arrogance. IQ is not everything. Silicone valley foreign workers all have high IQ and they’re just glorified slaves.
Why are “intelligent” people so damn stupid?
Because they're scared shitless of being associated with the "dumb" people they look down on.
because they believe the fear they have been fed. If one is fearful they are very easy to control.
Intelligence ought be highly correlated to a mind inquiring enough to test the veracity in what they are being told, the reputation of the teller and what their history of being honest or dishonest is, evaluate the likelihoods of the outcomes that the tellers insist are the risks that justify extreme responses, look for motivations that might be leading people to deceive based on profit or blackmail, and all the rest of the standard intellectual set of tools.
If they cant do this, or dont have the time, or whatever excuse they come up with, I dont accept they have the gifts they claim to. Regardless of whatever tenure or professorship they hold.
I agree 100%. Some would argue people like us overthink everything. They are wrong. We think down all the logical paths that look to be possible for the issue at hand. We don't stop when we find the answer that suits us, we continue to think until we come up with the most likely correct answer as well as multiple less likely outcomes.
The problem with the masses, they don't even look for the first outcome, they simply think, why would they lie about this. Except to them this is a rhetorical question. While a thinking man dissects this "rhetorical" question.
I may put this up as a post, would be a good meme if done right.
At this point I’m wondering if the masses think at all. It looks to me like many have been told what to think - in other words they just parrot out what they’ve been told.
When you catch them in a logic fallacy, they freeze up (as their matrix glitches). You can see it in their eyes and then you get angry dismissal, emotional condescension and the end of the conversation.
They don’t want to actually think or to know actual truth; they want to “be right” and feel “safe”. Even if that means a divergence from the truth.
I have seen that matrix glitch look, you are right, they get emotional, will either get angry or try to make a stupid/funny comment to change the subject.
Here is my go to example of the matrix glitch look. In the movie "Passengers" start at the 13:00 mark when Jim walks into the bar and has a conversation with the android bar-tender Arthur. It's a great awake / normie conversation. At the 14:08 mark Jim says "well I woke up early". And then at the 14:20 mark Jim asks Arthur "how is it that I'm sitting here with you with 90 years to go?". You have to see Arthur's matrix glitch facial response and then he says "it's not possible for you to be here". Now every time I watch or hear a normie deny all logic and reality my mind sees Arthur's matrix glitch.
I will have to look that one up.
I've seen that look. For me they go silent and blank. They don't reactivate until you change topics.
Depending on the person I'm talking with, I'm learning to really enjoy that moment, it used to drive me nuts, feels like progress now though. When they pause in that moment of mental venerability slip in another good-sized redpill for added effect.
Hey Qasar. I thought you might enjoy my response to patriot_legend since we are all on the same page with the matrix glitch response. If you get a chance to see the part of the movie I referenced I think that may be your go-to matrix glitch example too.
Took a while, but I think this is the scene you’re referring to. (And thank you for the reference).
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFBFMV30EQ
Thank you for posting a link. I assumed too quickly there wasn't an on-line video of that section. Arthur sure is condescendingly confident he knows what's what.
Tenure and professorship have nothing to do with intelligence anyways. It’s all politics, much of it identity driven.
In my own personal experience, i’ve found it hard to believe that anyone would lie to me, probably because thats not how i think. I don’t think the average human mind is wired to understand lies, or the concept of lying, or the idea that what they are being told is the opposite of the truth. Its kind-of a next-level way of thinking, to be able to lie, or to be able to tell that someone else is lying.
Evolutionary pressures imposes these things for people whose ancestors grew up and lived in places where trust and honesty within the tribal or societal group was paramount. Where liars were driven out or exiled because one dishonest person threatens the life and wellbeing of the entire group. So there is a natural selection for trust.
Cue today with migration from other entirely foreign groups who developed very differently and lie constantly about everything, even to each other... when mixed into a high-trust society, the damage is impossible to understate.
Because education is not intelligence.
There are some dumb people who are intelligent but have no education to magnify that into something good, and there are dumb people who have an education that just regurgitates the same bullshit they're told.
You can see scenario #1 in hood rats who are somehow incredibly crafty, handy, able to cook up drugs in some cases, evade capture and being killed, and very good with money in the least expected ways. If they applied themselves and got a good education, there are a multitude of potential paths that are legal and wholesome for them.
You can see scenario #2 in the OP.
Academia promotes memorization and conformity.
Cuz they have no real world experiences in anything.
8m a high school drop out.no GED nothing as far as education. I'm a mechanic but can do or build anything. I consider myself the smartest person I've ever met. Many people will tell you I may act dumb but and the smartest Fulkerson they know.
I don't know everything but I know a little about everything.
88 years old. He had a lot of years to fuck up students to. If hr quit over a mask he planned to leave anyway. He used the mask to make a virtue signal. All he showed us is he is a fool and should never have been in a classroom to begin with.
He also screwed all the kids who signed up for his class, probably over a hundred, who now have to scramble to find a seat elsewhere to get their semester credit.
Typical selfish leftist bastard.
He likely intended to quit this way all along because he's a narcissist. He picked out that student just to make the class hate and shame her. Evil bastard.
Ha ha, your breath escapes through and around the edges of the mask
It does nothing to block transmission of any virus
That's why it says so on the box
DEMOCRATS HATE YOU FOR EXISTING AND WANT YOU DEAD, SO THEY INJECT YOU WITH POISON AND CLAIM YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS DEADLY:
Why the automatic medical diagnosis of contagious disease in a healthy person—as though, merely by existing, they are a deadly entity
Like breathing out CO2: merely by existing, you are causing the death of the planet
Like "white privilege": merely by existing, you're oppressing everyone with your congenital racism, causing lynching and drug overdose deaths
Interesting, isn't it, how everything they want you dead for is INVISIBLE?
“Bernstein”
88 years old, should have been retired years ago. He got his 15 minutes doing it this way.
These people are so brainwashed they do not even realize how ignorant they look. All these vaxed people worried about people wearing a mask. Then why did you get vaxed morons
And this is a great change:
We STOP quitting, we stand strong! Even in the evil environment that we don't agree with.
They start quitting. They're weaker than us. They don't have that moral strength and they're not backed by the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit.
And that's how we survive, we retain our jobs and those stupid and evil go away, no matter where, ... until they learn.
Clean out the education system.
First off, we need hard term limits, not just for elected officials, but for teachers/professors, bureaucrats, Drs/nurses, cops, military command leadership, bankers, etc. Once you hit the offically listed Social Security retirement benefit age, it should be mandated you retire. It is a fact that the older you get, the less in touch you are with the youngest generations, ESPECIALLY in the teaching community. There is no reason why someone in their late 60s, 70s, and especially 80-90s should still be in the work force, in NAY capacity other than being a part time cashier at a grocery store. It will also help to curb any unwanted propagandistic indoctrination. We also need to end the practice of "tenure" in our schools, colleges, and universities. I'd like to go back in time and beat the ever living snot out of the person who came up with that "program." It's done nothing but help destroy our world.
While I agree with you with regards to the elimination of tenure, your age-related ideas are far-fetched IMO. The world would be a far sorrier place without the contributions, perspectives and experience of patriotic older generations. Just picture POTUS scanning your groceries at your local Publix.
You can point to examples of the worst of any group - by age, color, race, sex, etc - and denigrate the entire group if you want, but I think that’s unproductive at best.
Airline pilots have mandatory retirement at age 60. As for medical professionals, I agree. Maybe 65 isn't a bad age to retire. As a nurse, slightly older than that I have to say the job is becoming physically more demanding. Cognitive stuff is still very good, but I'm beat by end of a shift and I work eight hour shifts. I know for sure I couldn't work for twelve hours and still be very effective.
Winning
Twitter is a cesspool. Universities are a communist brainwashing facilities. Lucky me I graduated before this COVID bullsht hit. American colleges are absurd and blatant money grabbers. I’m so sick of this effing mask mandate I’m losing my last stretch of patience. Trump needs to get back to the office ASAP, we’re already neck deep in the gutter.
Looking for an excuse sounds more like it.
Academia will be purged, because it must.
#winning
This a win. That’s an easy way to clear nut cases from “higher learning”
At 88 he should be retired.
🇺🇸
If he did his research he would of been begging his students not to wear them.
https://lists.grabien.com/list-studies-and-other-data-undercutting-utility-masks-stopping-c
Professor is a moron.
Nah, it was an opportune time to retire at 88.
What a cuck, lol.
Psych prof. Figures. Take another Jab you ignorant frightened excuse for a man.
Plenty where he came from: https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577#.ntt8r6u7f
Cornered and fragmenting.
I see that as an absolute win. Fuck that professor.
I am not a mask wearer. In this case though I would have probably complied since the man was obviously scared for his life and in the highest risk group. Having said that, it is time for him to retire or ask ask the university for remote accommodations.
Fuck him, even at his age the risk is extremely tiny. He probably never acted like this during previous flu seasons.
wonder if he was a tenured professor or an adjunct. Either way, good riddance.
LOL. Thank you for this today. Winning.
The Dumbafication of America
(PANIC) Dr. Jacob Vigil exposes censorship, breached confidentiality, and the Deep State's fear of disclosure of their depopulation agenda from being communicated across public university (Microsoft) communication systems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl7I2KYvwcg