Neither quitting nor complying are the path to win this. Both are victory conditions for those who would enslave us.
Quitting weakens the military by self removing those who would stand up for individual liberties.
Complying teaches soldiers to give up their individual liberties. If they don't care about their own individual liberties, they won't care about yours either. This trains them to follow any order.
There is only one path to victory. Do not comply, do not quit. Do what soldiers do and fight. Soldiers do not fight alone. Get more soldiers and fight together. Soldiers that fight together win wars. We are at war.
This is not complicated. This path to victory is obvious. Take the obvious path to victory.
They’ve weakened the current pool enough that many will comply the rest will get steamrolled without legal protections and pushback from civilians. I’m telling you as someone who has an ear on this topic because i have family in
There is ONLY one path to victory. It does not matter what you hear or think or what your sources hear or think. Besides, with all the fake news, and all the threats, I bet they are not actually in the minority at all.
Regardless, there is only one path to victory.
Either soldiers take that path, or we lose the military.
The vast majority of soldiers do not want to take the vax. Generals and the likes don’t care, your options are get it, don’t and face losing everything. The vast majority regardless of what course of action you think they should take will take the vax even though they don’t want to. Very few will stand up and they will get steamrolled. Officers have more options and flexibility than enlisted and they need to fight. The majority however are liberal. The lowest officer out ranks the highest enlisted. It doesn’t matter what you think because I’m telling the reality is without your support and pressure from politicians by late October they will almost all be vaccinated
your options are get it, don’t and face losing everything.
The REAL options are stand up and fight the tyranny (in this case its not a kinetic war, but a moral one), or all humanity enters into abject slavery for all eternity.
The vast majority regardless of what course of action you think they should take will take the vax even though they don’t want to
Which is why people need to be shown what the real consequences are. That is our job.
Very few will stand up and they will get steamrolled.
Your black pills don't work on me. I have seen myself the power of one individual standing up against tyranny. The masses will follow just one person. The masses are begging for one brave soul to stand up. It can become a group so powerful nothing can stop it. Sometimes one person can change the world.
It doesn’t matter what you think because I’m telling the reality
It doesn't matter what YOU think, because I'm telling you the reality.
Each soldier has individual rights. They MUST recognize that. Their duty is to protect the constitution first. The constitution says clearly that they have individual rights, and that those rights can not be alienated from them. That is what they must realize. That is what you must realize. We have INALIENABLE RIGHTS. They CAN'T BE TAKEN FROM US. That is the power of the constitution. Officers can't take that away from any soldier, no matter the rank, and the soldiers oath to the constitution demands exactly the action of defending their own inalienable rights.
That is the reality. Either the soldiers realize that, or we are screwed.
Are you in? I’m not trying to be a dick or blackpill or doom. I’m telling you it’s wishful thinking. I’m telling you i hangout with my cousin and the guys he serves with. He might as well have been named .win at birth. All of them talked big now they are dropping the hammer and they have folded, my cousin has not but he doesn’t compromise and has a martyr complex. That’s one of the 20+
If you have actual advice other than a vague stand up please tell me what moves you are privy too. They are brainwashed at 18 and brainwashed to thinking it’s ok to die. The consequences of dying from the vax is not as scary to them as not being able to provide, or getting dishonorable or losing benefits. Best case to them is nothing happens and they keep serving their country, worse case they die and their family gets 400k or whatever the life insurance is they have.
If you are upset trust me so am i, but they have no rights. The ones that dictate what happens to them are the ones pushing it, the MPs are no different. If you have specific actions in mind let know and I’ll pass it along. But keep in mind that my cousin has been denied legal counsel on this matter and is still looking for a solution. If you get an exception somehow they aren’t renewing contracts. Take that how you will. I’ll keep pressing and praying i hope you do the same, and i hope someone has some good ideas
If you have actual advice other than a vague stand up please tell me
I did tell you. Its not vague, its exact.
All soldiers give their oath to the constitution first. That is their primary authority. The constitution and its spiritual inspiration the DoI state unequivocally that all American citizens have inalienable rights. Included in those rights is the right to choose what we inject into our bodies. That is not something to be brushed aside. I personally would see a lawyer, but I would not quit, and I would not comply. I would assert my inalienable rights, and I would let the entire world know what I was doing and why.
After talking with a lawyer. I would go to my fellow soldiers, let them know what I am doing. Then I would make sure it was filmed when I was thrown in jail. I would say that I will not quit because I believe in America and I am a solider, but I also believe in my inalienable rights to chose what is injected into my body. I am a solider, but I am also a human being and an American citizen. I have sworn an oath to the constitution and I believe my constitutional rights are being violated.
This IS the path to victory. We don't fight this war with guns, we fight this war with information, asserting our rights, and letting the entire planet know we are doing so.
The strings have been cut. We have been told that, we see that. People get the word out now. Yes, we are censored all over the place, yet the word still gets out.
Make them throw you in brig. Talk to a lawyer. Tic Tok or Youtube or whatever you need to do to show exactly what is going on to the world. Tell someone on here what's going on. We will spread the word. Send it to senators. Send it to anyone who will listen. GET THE WORD OUT. MAKE THEM THROW YOU IN JAIL. MAKE THEM TAKE YOU TO COURT. LET THE WORLD KNOW.
Those we hear about and those who are real military and vastly different. I have no doubt just like everyone else we only hear about those they want us to hear about.
You're missing nuance. I've been fucking up a leftist organization from the inside for years. Quit, and I can come back to do that after/if this blows over. Get fired and I cant.
That's fair. I am in a similar situation. There are certain actions I do not do because I am working on something else. I keep it low key atm and will continue to do so until my current project is finished. But I still assert that in general I have assessed the situation correctly.
The problem is, people think they are alone, or in the minority. They think that because people are afraid to speak up. That is the real manipulation; making people afraid to speak.
People must speak up. Easier said than done I know, but it is what has to happen.
Our family friend in USMC has been unable to take leave and come home due to refusing the clot shot. They are currently writing him up for dishonorable discharge for refusing. He is fine with that.
My son was just finishing up his college degree for criminal justice then was going to join USMC next year.........looks like unless things change it will be a different career path. But where? City police by us were just forced to get the shot - lost a perfectly healthy 40 yr old detective and friend who became ill 10 days after death dose #2. Family fundraiser event was last night to raise $$ for a family who didn’t have to lose a father and husband. This shit is getting brutal. And they have the audacity to say he died of CV19. They made him sick with the vax then put him on worthless protocols and a ventilator to finish him off. You are better to stay at home vax free and if you get sick grab some hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin rather than go to the place that ensures you die of CV19!!!
Thank you, old vet, and all of the others! I was just young enough to miss the Viet Nam draft, but too old to be "of age" after enlistments went up after 9/11. I sure hope you, and the millions of others, will be ready to fight to save our country if it comes down to that. I'll do what I can with what I have, but with drones, F-14's, helicopters, tanks, etc., at the disposal of the leftist generals and their lackies, I'm not sure what average Joe patriots are going to be able to do against that.
One friend out as a senior USAF officer in October. Another friend, a CW5, is being told vax or get out. Plans in action. They are gonna try to cull the military in this manner. If anyone knows of any class action lawsuits, I’m collecting research for my friend. He’s a bit too emotional at the moment.
Yeah I sent these links to my NG son also. They haven't been pushing him to get it yet, but I'm sure it's coming next time he goes for his drill. Told him also not to get the flu shots either. They have always made him sick, this time though I'm afraid they may be much worse than normal. Told him to get out if it comes to it. He works in the legal field, so I'm hoping the lawyer he works with will help him if he needs it, although the lawyer got vaxxed himself. He told my son he did and asked if he was vaxxed, my son told him no, and the lawyer didn't seem to have a problem with it. So we will see how it goes, fingers crossed for all the military folks who keep fighting against it.
don't quit, make them fire you!!!!! if my employer won't yield to my current fight with them about the vax, I am going to tell them they have to fire me and note the reason for firing being that I wouldnt get vaccinated. I want that shit on paper.
Dishonorable discharge equates to no benefits for your service and being treated as a felon in the civilian world. That's what many of the servicemembers will have 'on paper'. If it were me though, I'd take those odds and because the fight is here and now. Wish more of my active duty buddies could see it.
In short, they have to let you out, but there's plenty of ways for them to do so. Most people refusing the vax probably fall under the Convenience section. No sense in keeping someone around who would be a massive drain on morale and a potential domestic threat because you force vaxxed them.
Boy, wait til they have a military full of betrayed, sick, freshly awakened, forced-vaxxed people under their noses...
I still can't get over the fact that Obama significantly lowered standards, just to let women into the marines while almost no other country does this, because theyre not stupid.
My twin girls are both in the Marines over seas and they are trying to use a religious exemption but its not looking good for them. They aren't getting any help for anyone to really know how to fight back. Im praying they say no to the jab. They have always said they wouldn't take it but the presser in there is so bad. 😩
With this mass exodus of patriot military personnel I can see the draft of all blue haired skinny jean soy boys and massive dikes crying like babies because they have to “go to war”!
The exodus of experienced personnel from the military creates an army which is not obliged to follow the orders of criminal politicians and would truly fight for the people.
They will be able to operate as free patriots when the time comes.
My twin girls are in the Marines over seas and they are fighting with everything they have to not take the jab. They are getting NO help from the Marines so its very hard to figure out how to protect themselves. They are trying to use the religious exemption but im not even sure if that is going to help. im praying they will not do it.
How does one just quit the military? I’m a veteran an I can say unequivocally that I had a predetermined release date from service and I couldn’t just walk away from that had I tried to choose to do so.
This is what I'm trying to tell my active duty buddies. The FDA letters that approved comfucky or whatever it's called and extended the emergency use auth should be enough to show them all that military leaders are all sorts of fucked up. But too many of them think they can't affect any change or that everything is top-down and they have no choice but get jabbed or get fucked. It's some very grim shit watching people you serve with refuse to fight and get pricked with something you know is dangerous for them.
Neither quitting nor complying are the path to win this. Both are victory conditions for those who would enslave us.
There is only one path to victory. Do not comply, do not quit. Do what soldiers do and fight. Soldiers do not fight alone. Get more soldiers and fight together. Soldiers that fight together win wars. We are at war.
This is not complicated. This path to victory is obvious. Take the obvious path to victory.
They’ve weakened the current pool enough that many will comply the rest will get steamrolled without legal protections and pushback from civilians. I’m telling you as someone who has an ear on this topic because i have family in
There is ONLY one path to victory. It does not matter what you hear or think or what your sources hear or think. Besides, with all the fake news, and all the threats, I bet they are not actually in the minority at all.
Regardless, there is only one path to victory.
Either soldiers take that path, or we lose the military.
We REALLY don't want to lose the military.
It's not complicated.
The vast majority of soldiers do not want to take the vax. Generals and the likes don’t care, your options are get it, don’t and face losing everything. The vast majority regardless of what course of action you think they should take will take the vax even though they don’t want to. Very few will stand up and they will get steamrolled. Officers have more options and flexibility than enlisted and they need to fight. The majority however are liberal. The lowest officer out ranks the highest enlisted. It doesn’t matter what you think because I’m telling the reality is without your support and pressure from politicians by late October they will almost all be vaccinated
The REAL options are stand up and fight the tyranny (in this case its not a kinetic war, but a moral one), or all humanity enters into abject slavery for all eternity.
Which is why people need to be shown what the real consequences are. That is our job.
Your black pills don't work on me. I have seen myself the power of one individual standing up against tyranny. The masses will follow just one person. The masses are begging for one brave soul to stand up. It can become a group so powerful nothing can stop it. Sometimes one person can change the world.
It doesn't matter what YOU think, because I'm telling you the reality.
Each soldier has individual rights. They MUST recognize that. Their duty is to protect the constitution first. The constitution says clearly that they have individual rights, and that those rights can not be alienated from them. That is what they must realize. That is what you must realize. We have INALIENABLE RIGHTS. They CAN'T BE TAKEN FROM US. That is the power of the constitution. Officers can't take that away from any soldier, no matter the rank, and the soldiers oath to the constitution demands exactly the action of defending their own inalienable rights.
That is the reality. Either the soldiers realize that, or we are screwed.
Are you in? I’m not trying to be a dick or blackpill or doom. I’m telling you it’s wishful thinking. I’m telling you i hangout with my cousin and the guys he serves with. He might as well have been named .win at birth. All of them talked big now they are dropping the hammer and they have folded, my cousin has not but he doesn’t compromise and has a martyr complex. That’s one of the 20+ If you have actual advice other than a vague stand up please tell me what moves you are privy too. They are brainwashed at 18 and brainwashed to thinking it’s ok to die. The consequences of dying from the vax is not as scary to them as not being able to provide, or getting dishonorable or losing benefits. Best case to them is nothing happens and they keep serving their country, worse case they die and their family gets 400k or whatever the life insurance is they have. If you are upset trust me so am i, but they have no rights. The ones that dictate what happens to them are the ones pushing it, the MPs are no different. If you have specific actions in mind let know and I’ll pass it along. But keep in mind that my cousin has been denied legal counsel on this matter and is still looking for a solution. If you get an exception somehow they aren’t renewing contracts. Take that how you will. I’ll keep pressing and praying i hope you do the same, and i hope someone has some good ideas
I did tell you. Its not vague, its exact.
All soldiers give their oath to the constitution first. That is their primary authority. The constitution and its spiritual inspiration the DoI state unequivocally that all American citizens have inalienable rights. Included in those rights is the right to choose what we inject into our bodies. That is not something to be brushed aside. I personally would see a lawyer, but I would not quit, and I would not comply. I would assert my inalienable rights, and I would let the entire world know what I was doing and why.
After talking with a lawyer. I would go to my fellow soldiers, let them know what I am doing. Then I would make sure it was filmed when I was thrown in jail. I would say that I will not quit because I believe in America and I am a solider, but I also believe in my inalienable rights to chose what is injected into my body. I am a solider, but I am also a human being and an American citizen. I have sworn an oath to the constitution and I believe my constitutional rights are being violated.
This IS the path to victory. We don't fight this war with guns, we fight this war with information, asserting our rights, and letting the entire planet know we are doing so.
The strings have been cut. We have been told that, we see that. People get the word out now. Yes, we are censored all over the place, yet the word still gets out.
Make them throw you in brig. Talk to a lawyer. Tic Tok or Youtube or whatever you need to do to show exactly what is going on to the world. Tell someone on here what's going on. We will spread the word. Send it to senators. Send it to anyone who will listen. GET THE WORD OUT. MAKE THEM THROW YOU IN JAIL. MAKE THEM TAKE YOU TO COURT. LET THE WORLD KNOW.
This is the path to victory.
Its not vague, its explicit.
Go outside the base to find legal council. Maybe we can find him one. Make a post and see if we can find some sources.
He may be a soldier, but he's also an American citizen. There is more than one path available.
If he needs monetary support for a lawyer set up a thing. I don't have a ton, but I will contribute.
Those we hear about and those who are real military and vastly different. I have no doubt just like everyone else we only hear about those they want us to hear about.
It will encourage others
You're missing nuance. I've been fucking up a leftist organization from the inside for years. Quit, and I can come back to do that after/if this blows over. Get fired and I cant.
That's fair. I am in a similar situation. There are certain actions I do not do because I am working on something else. I keep it low key atm and will continue to do so until my current project is finished. But I still assert that in general I have assessed the situation correctly.
I think someone here reported that the military threatened to throw his son in the brig if he did not comply.
The problem is, people think they are alone, or in the minority. They think that because people are afraid to speak up. That is the real manipulation; making people afraid to speak.
People must speak up. Easier said than done I know, but it is what has to happen.
Each must do what they must do.
Can't argue with that.
Thank you for clarifying this FACT.
US Army vet here. You have 3 options:
There are no other options. Maybe once you’ve left service you can try and file a class action, but even then I doubt you’ll have “standing”.
Getting discharged isn't quitting though. It's letting them fire you.
Big difference IMO. A Dishonorable Discharge can be reversed later. A jab can't. And quitting is not an option.
Agreed.
Our family friend in USMC has been unable to take leave and come home due to refusing the clot shot. They are currently writing him up for dishonorable discharge for refusing. He is fine with that.
My son was just finishing up his college degree for criminal justice then was going to join USMC next year.........looks like unless things change it will be a different career path. But where? City police by us were just forced to get the shot - lost a perfectly healthy 40 yr old detective and friend who became ill 10 days after death dose #2. Family fundraiser event was last night to raise $$ for a family who didn’t have to lose a father and husband. This shit is getting brutal. And they have the audacity to say he died of CV19. They made him sick with the vax then put him on worthless protocols and a ventilator to finish him off. You are better to stay at home vax free and if you get sick grab some hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin rather than go to the place that ensures you die of CV19!!!
Furlough the entire thing! They do not represent taxpayers
Thank you, old vet, and all of the others! I was just young enough to miss the Viet Nam draft, but too old to be "of age" after enlistments went up after 9/11. I sure hope you, and the millions of others, will be ready to fight to save our country if it comes down to that. I'll do what I can with what I have, but with drones, F-14's, helicopters, tanks, etc., at the disposal of the leftist generals and their lackies, I'm not sure what average Joe patriots are going to be able to do against that.
They got some guns but
We got the numbers
Gonna win, yeah
We're takin' over
Come on
One friend out as a senior USAF officer in October. Another friend, a CW5, is being told vax or get out. Plans in action. They are gonna try to cull the military in this manner. If anyone knows of any class action lawsuits, I’m collecting research for my friend. He’s a bit too emotional at the moment.
Here's some links I got from different posts here on GAW...
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/military-service-members-natural-immunity-lawsuit-dod-fda-hhs-covid-vaccine-mandate/?fbclid=IwAR0Yc8eaCsZFKU4lx-WNLv5tyTqJkAcIy47rQ8_O2J3gZ1I1T1l8C0NYac4
https://technofog.substack.com/p/military-exemptions-for-the-covid?fbclid=IwAR2rh6W1XqtDY-PIVal81hPkbkS415XNpAfWutVb9tCSwZE3SDjkB7bj--Q
Thank you. I have to kick into IRL researcher tomorrow to help him game this exit or fight. I think an exit is best way to go. But we’ll see.
Yeah I sent these links to my NG son also. They haven't been pushing him to get it yet, but I'm sure it's coming next time he goes for his drill. Told him also not to get the flu shots either. They have always made him sick, this time though I'm afraid they may be much worse than normal. Told him to get out if it comes to it. He works in the legal field, so I'm hoping the lawyer he works with will help him if he needs it, although the lawyer got vaxxed himself. He told my son he did and asked if he was vaxxed, my son told him no, and the lawyer didn't seem to have a problem with it. So we will see how it goes, fingers crossed for all the military folks who keep fighting against it.
30 - 40% refusing the jab? Semper Fi Sister, fight the good fight!
don't quit, make them fire you!!!!! if my employer won't yield to my current fight with them about the vax, I am going to tell them they have to fire me and note the reason for firing being that I wouldnt get vaccinated. I want that shit on paper.
Dishonorable discharge equates to no benefits for your service and being treated as a felon in the civilian world. That's what many of the servicemembers will have 'on paper'. If it were me though, I'd take those odds and because the fight is here and now. Wish more of my active duty buddies could see it.
And this reason will definitely be seen as wise.
I’m not complying with our jobs mandates either. And I’ve been at my job longer than this girl been a marine. I’ll have to be fired
Since when can you just 'quit'?
Several ways to resign early. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/early-discharge-from-the-military-4057239
In short, they have to let you out, but there's plenty of ways for them to do so. Most people refusing the vax probably fall under the Convenience section. No sense in keeping someone around who would be a massive drain on morale and a potential domestic threat because you force vaxxed them.
Boy, wait til they have a military full of betrayed, sick, freshly awakened, forced-vaxxed people under their noses...
The nasty thing about truth is that it comes out.
She's fricken hot! I'm drooling over here. 🤑
Stay
Do Not Obey
Make Them Bring UCMJ
God bless her.
Stay healthy, we're gonna need you before this is over.
I still can't get over the fact that Obama significantly lowered standards, just to let women into the marines while almost no other country does this, because theyre not stupid.
My twin girls are both in the Marines over seas and they are trying to use a religious exemption but its not looking good for them. They aren't getting any help for anyone to really know how to fight back. Im praying they say no to the jab. They have always said they wouldn't take it but the presser in there is so bad. 😩
With this mass exodus of patriot military personnel I can see the draft of all blue haired skinny jean soy boys and massive dikes crying like babies because they have to “go to war”!
She should run for local office.
The exodus of experienced personnel from the military creates an army which is not obliged to follow the orders of criminal politicians and would truly fight for the people.
They will be able to operate as free patriots when the time comes.
They are the Deep State's worst nightmare.
My twin girls are in the Marines over seas and they are fighting with everything they have to not take the jab. They are getting NO help from the Marines so its very hard to figure out how to protect themselves. They are trying to use the religious exemption but im not even sure if that is going to help. im praying they will not do it.
She shouldn't leave, her space will be filled by commies. That's what they want.
Stop doing this! Have them dismiss/fire you!
How does one just quit the military? I’m a veteran an I can say unequivocally that I had a predetermined release date from service and I couldn’t just walk away from that had I tried to choose to do so.
This is not a good trend
This is what I'm trying to tell my active duty buddies. The FDA letters that approved comfucky or whatever it's called and extended the emergency use auth should be enough to show them all that military leaders are all sorts of fucked up. But too many of them think they can't affect any change or that everything is top-down and they have no choice but get jabbed or get fucked. It's some very grim shit watching people you serve with refuse to fight and get pricked with something you know is dangerous for them.
I see the same shit at work. All talk and no action. The voluntary shots were an IQ test. The mandatory shots are a test of faith.
You get it you have lost already! Time to stand up if I lose its on my terms not theirs! Oct 1st is my D-Day I will not comply!! Fire me or Fuck off!!