Well, considering the standing theory is that the vaccinated people
There is no "standing theory". Suggesting that there is suggests that there is evidence to support the ideas. It is an appeal to authority to support an argument for which there is no good evidence. It would be more appropriate to say "my hypothesis which some (few) other people share".
A. Are sterilized by the shot
There is zero evidence to support this. There is evidence that it causes substantial spontaneous abortions in the first two trimesters, but that can easily be caused by a shock to the system (which the vaccine causes). It can also be caused by permanent damage to the reproductive organs, but there is zero substantive evidence to support that conclusion.
B. Only have 3 years to live due to the cardio problems
This again has zero evidential support. I am sure it is probably true for some people, but the vaccine causes different damage to different people. Not everyone is susceptible to heart damage from the spike protein and/or inflammation/autoimmune heart damage the vaccine might cause. Each individual has different diet/genetics/state of health/where the vaccine accumulates/etc. Patterns may emerge for statistical evidence to support such an idea, but we don't have any data to support ANY long term problems, nor do we have any idea of statistical long term patterns (yet).
C. Were dumb enough to get the jab to begin with
I can't argue with this one.
All point toward parentage with such a person isn't only likely impossible now, but simply irresponsible.
This is nothing but fear mongering, and it doesn't even have a lick of evidential support (that I have seen). All evidence that I have seen that would warrant these particular fears I have provided substantial evidence to the contrary. That evidence being ignored because people would rather be fearful than not is not my fault. But I am calling this for what it is. Fear mongering.
So the information you have seen leads you to believe we are just afraid of needles and have no real evidence to support our claims?
Where did I say anything that remotely resembles anything like this statement? This is called a strawman. I did not say anything like this. I was addressing specific fears for which there is no evidence. I have made thousands of posts of the dangers of the vaccines. Those posts are based on corroborated evidence.
Where is the data that shows what happens to people’s reproductive health 2, 5, 10 years down the road from receiving their shots? You don’t have it, it doesn’t exist yet
Not only does it not exist yet, but there isn't any current evidence that supports the fear at all.
Am I totally sure it’s a depopulation shot? Nope, could just as easily be a money making endeavor for big pharma
This isn't about money (well, not primarily). This is about teaching people to give up their freedoms "for the good of the many." Such a lesson is a primer for their "Great Reset" which will ask people to give up ALL freedoms for the good of the many (the insidious path to total population slavery used by all communist, socialist, and fascist regimes).
I’m still unwilling to get jabbed until I see years worth of evidence that it does no harm
The evidence suggests it does a lot of harm, though the evidence also suggests its not as harmful as many people fear it is. There is disinformation on both sides of this issue. I have spent hundreds of hours writing the details and analyses about this disinformation on both sides.
No, I do not “trust the science” and I certainly don’t trust them with my life.
Science is not meant to be trusted. It is actually designed to be forever debated (never trusted). The statement "trust the science" is meant to confuse people, because science is intrinsically not trustable, but debatable.
It’s my “hypothesis” that the injections they are desperately forcing on people are bad news
I have an actual theory that says the same thing. It has substantial evidence to support it.
Within that evidence there is none that supports the claims or fears of infertility.
Oh, one other thing, while I've got your attention.
I know we got into a spat way back when, but I'll be honest, I do value your opinion. I think you're quite learned, in spite of a slight unwillingness t consider that the world at large may, very shortly, be required to unlearn things which would completely reconfigure organic, viral, and even periodic chemistry as we know it. We don't know how far the lies go.
With that in mind, I've been struggling with the idea of graphene in the "vaccines." That may surprise you, given my previous statement, but I don't see why they would need graphene to accomplish such a goal. It seem superficial to their ends. The Japanese reports of stuff in the "vaccines" do give this idea credence though.
Anyway...
Serendipitously, while researching a completely separate subject, I stumbled upon Phosphorene.
Aside from phosphorus' namesake being translatable to "light bearer" (also lucifer) and this sum bitchin' page looking like an upside down cross overlaid text on the Philosopher's stone, I'm a little perplexed. I mean, we know the Cabal have a big Satan thing going on, whether or not everyone is in on it, so...
What's your take? Assuming they may just be putting nanoparticle structures in the "vaccines", would Phosphorene be more or less likely than Graphene? Is it just for the voodoo magic like the Luciferase?
One more from the wiki article for Phosphorene, on top of that...
Radio frequency (RF) transistors with highest intrinsic cutoff frequency of 20 GHz has been realized for potential applications in high frequency flexible smart nano systems.
This line smells like 5G conspiracies, which I have a harder time swallowing as it rides on the graphene nanoparticle theory.
I know we got into a spat way back when, but I'll be honest, I do value your opinion.
This is a problem. People often think that just because I disagree with them that I do not value their thoughts or opinions. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just because I don't sugar coat things doesn't mean I think badly of someone. I think you are a valuable researcher and I always read what you present.
But I am a scientist. I think of things scientifically (not exclusively, but when talking about science things I do). When I present arguments I call it like I see it, which is as a data analyst/scientist/researcher.
in spite of a slight unwillingness t consider that the world at large may, very shortly, be required to unlearn things which would completely reconfigure organic, viral, and even periodic chemistry as we know it
I don't know why you would think that about me. I agree with this 100%. I think there is going to be a Science Great Awakening as well. I think what you might be confusing is that such an awakening would be based on substantive evidence and not speculation. I speculate all the time, but I only use those speculations to drive my search for evidence. I do not give those speculations any more weight than they deserve. That is what I consider to be a major difference between me and many people who post here.
I don't see why they would need graphene to accomplish such a goal.
They wouldn't, though there may be meaningful uses for it. I just haven't seen any evidence that substantially supports the idea that it is in these vaccines. That doesn't mean that they aren't in them, Its just the the evidence provided so far does not support it by my analysis.
Nevertheless, there are reasons that they may want to inject graphene for nefarious technologies. But I also agree that there are other ways. They wouldn't "need" graphene.
The Japanese reports of stuff in the "vaccines" do give this idea credence though.
I haven't read them yet. From the reports of the reports I only saw that it was "something" magnetic, nothing specific. That could be literally anything. There are so many things that could be magnetic, without further study assuming it is graphene would be purely speculative at this point.
would Phosphorene be more or less likely than Graphene
I certainly can't say phosphorene is impossible. I don't know of any method to produce it in sufficient quantities, but production of phosphorene would hardly be the least of the potential hidden technologies. As for what they could do with it... I am not sure. Self assembling technologies using sheets is not something I have studied in much depth, though I certainly could look into it. I know a fair bit more about biological methods of self-assembly (DNA, RNA, peptide chains, lipid nanoparticles, etc.)
I would imagine that phosphorene self assembly would use similar techniques to graphene self assembly, which would be based on the additions to the sheets. Like, if you add certain moieties onto the edge of sheets you can get them to join in a certain way. Such moieties (like adding a hydroxyl group e.g.) to the edge of a sheet could help such sheets group around a metal ion (chelate the ion) for example. I'm just spitballing here, but yes, if you could create phosphorene in large quantities you could theoretically create self assembling tech and inject it.
I'm not sure why they would do that and not use graphene, but its not impossible if they have the tech to mass produce it. Then again, me not being sure why, doesn't mean there aren't good reasons. They do have different properties and it will likely become future tech with both similar and different applications to graphene.
This line smells like 5G conspiracies
Well, 20Ghz is right in line with 5G, so...
Regardless, I don't think the 5G conspiracies have any credence with regard to this vaccine.
That's the problem with all these theories.
I think many of the ideas have merit with regard to their intent, and possible tech. But there is no evidence to support them. I appreciate the speculation and the research, but there is so much evidence, and so little supports the wild speculations. I don't dismiss the speculations, but giving them more credence than they deserve is not sound reasoning. There are real concerns with actual evidence. I think it is more important to look there and do research there.
Maybe that's just me. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone doing any research. I just don't want "speculation" to turn into "standing theory" without evidence. That leads to bad decisions.
Listen, bud, I don't want to get in a spat. Others seem to be jumping on you anyway, so I'll just make it quick.
The Globalists like Schwab, Soros and Gates have been going on for decades how they want to reduce the world population.
They all have financial interests in vaccine companies.
Vaccines that have been produced by them have left many in 3rd world countries sterile or producing children with great deformities.
Cutting all the science theories, studies, research and what ifs aside, if you follow the money, it's clear A, B, and C are the primary goals for, in their mind, a successful vaccination(apartheid) campaign.
So, assuming they made something that fits the "Bill", I'm gonna boldly say, yeah, vaccinated people aren't in for a good time.
Yup, and not one of them addressed a single thing I actually said, but rather addressed suppositions of things that had not one thing to do with what I said.
When one gets into a debate, one should address the argument presented and not a made up argument that was not presented. That is called a strawman.
The Globalists like Schwab, Soros and Gates have been going on for decades how they want to reduce the world population.
Yup. I've written a fair bit about this.
They all have financial interests in vaccine companies.
I have substantial evidence to support this statement and have written about it many times. I am writing what is turning into a book about these very facts.
Vaccines that have been produced by them have left many in 3rd world countries sterile or producing children with great deformities
Not a single argument from me about this. I agree 100%.
Cutting all the science theories, studies, research and what ifs aside, if you follow the money, it's clear A, B, and C are the primary goals for, in their mind, a successful vaccination(apartheid) campaign.
And again, we have no argument here.
assuming they made something that fits the "Bill"
This is 100% speculative. Basing "the standing theory" on something that is 100% speculative is not a theory it is a hypothesis. It can become a theory if it has evidential support. There is none. When you try to make a hypothesis into a theory without presenting evidence but just by calling it a "standing theory" that is an appeal to authority to make it into a stronger argument than it is, because it has no actual evidence to support it.
We have a metric FUCKTON of data on these vaccines. None of it supports the hypothesis of infertility, genetic damage to sperm/eggs, etc.. Promoting an idea that there is, without such evidence, is exactly what "fear mongering" is. You are trying to make people afraid of something for which there is no evidential support within the large body of data that we have.
You think that just because they have motive to do so that they have done it. That is supposition. If, within the mountain of evidence that we have there was supporting evidence for the theory, then I would be agreeing that the evidence does support it, but there isn't any, and that is why I disagree with it.
You are spreading a fear that all the evidence for the vaccines that we have does not support.
None of it supports the hypothesis of infertility, genetic damage to sperm/eggs, etc..
I think you're hung up on semantics.
I count miscarriages along with general sterility.
I've heard a TON of anecdotal stories about how pregnant women are having miscarriages as well as pregnant women who are simply in proximity with someone who was recently vaccinated. Hell, I've been getting prayer requests from Church by pregnant mothers having severe complications.
Oh, and by the way, we don't have evidence because it is being suppressed. All we have is anecdotes, so if those aren't good enough for you, then by your metrics we can't form ANY theories because the people in charge won't let us. Which is all sorts of a mind fuck of circular logic to me.
You gotta chill with the semantic arguments, is all I'm saying. All those rules you're hell-bent on following were put in place by bad actors to make sure the Truth is always quashed by those who have a precious degree and seek to lord it over us.
Common sense calls them as they see them, and I've seen a fair share of people say, yeah, it's making it hard to make babies.
Nicki Minaj's current affair with her friend's testicles growing to pop is a marked case I'm surprised you don't count among pertinent evidence. Is she a fear-monger?
I count miscarriages along with general sterility.
There is substantial evidence that the vaccines interfere with pregnancy. The problem is, the vaccine causes an autoimmune response. That is its entire design purpose. It also causes substantial shock to the human body. Both of those also cause spontaneous abortion in the first 6 months of pregnancy, which is the time period where the evidence suggests the pregnancy problems are occurring (there is no substantial evidence that I have seen that it is occurring in the final trimester).
Just because you count miscarriages along with general sterility doesn't mean that biologically they are the same idea. Losing a baby due to a system shock and autoimmune response, and not being able to get pregnant and/or later having pregnancy issues are biologically very different things. There is data to support the first, not the second.
we don't have evidence because it is being suppressed
Maybe, maybe not. I have a TON of evidence for all sorts of things that are being suppressed. I have no evidence of this. We go with what we have, not what we can suppose. We can suppose all sorts of untrue things. That is the capacity of the human mind. That is why it is essential that we use actual evidence in the decision making process.
Which is all sorts of a mind fuck of circular logic to me.
See above.
You gotta chill with the semantic arguments
I honestly don't think I am doing that at all. Using the phrase "standing theory" really does give an unsubstantiated idea more support than it deserves. It also causes fear in others by using that appeal to authority.
I am basically writing a book on how the Cabal uses words to cast spells (its a report on the Matrix in which we live, but it boils down to that statement, and its become so long its practically a book). I have become pretty critical of how people use rhetoric to support their ideas. People are constantly casting spells on each other without realizing it. It has become our culture. I am pointing it out because it is harmful to use unbased fears to influence others decisions. That is how we got here in the first place.
All those rules you're hell-bent on following were put in place by bad actors to make sure the Truth is always quashed by those who have a precious degree and seek to lord it over us.
Yup, that is all part of the report. You will understand my perspective much better when I am done. Hopefully very soon.
Common sense calls them as they see them
"Common sense" is an illusion of truth. Common sense is actually more often a lie designed to control the population than anything having to do with the truth. Common sense is exploitable and it pretty much always is exploited by the Cabal to mislead.
Nicki Minaj's current affair with her friend's testicles growing to pop
I've seen no other reports of this in the VAERS reports. One piece of anecdote does not count as substantive evidence, no matter how much anyone might want it to. Anecdotes are great, for pointing in the direction of an investigation, but by themselves they are meaningless as evidence. If you get enough anecdotes you can create a statistical argument, but one anecdote is, outside of a direction for investigation, otherwise completely meaningless.
Here's the deal, and I've given this great thought.
Let's say I'm going over to a my wife's friend's house.
The friend has gotten into a ton of weird health stuff, and it's been getting weirder.
I enter the house with my wife and the friend has made some pie.
The pie looks a little rough, but no different than any other home-made pie.
The only thing is, the friend's hands are covered in shit. It smells, and looks like shit.
The friend offers my wife and I some pie.
Now, here's the deal. I have no evidence that shit is in the pie. The shit on the friend's hands could be completely coincidental, even though the friend seems to be making no effort to clean it off.
I maintain hesitation, not fear, and refuse to eat the pie.
Continuing with the scenario -- despite, my hesitation and my recommendation that she not eat the pie, my wife eats some of the pie, assuring me that her friend would not put shit in it. The friend is silent on the matter.
She seems to enjoy it, but this is my wife's friend, not mine. I don't know enough about the friend to make any conclusions on whether or not my wife has or has not become a shit eater. I only have anecdotal evidence that the friend has been getting into some weird stuff.
I do trust my wife, however, but I can't trust her judgement because it could be blinded by the trust she has with her friend.
Finally, we move past the shit pie segment and later in the evening my wife goes in for a kiss.
Now, I still don't know for certain if she ate a shit pie. The ultimate question I have for you is this:
Am I fear mongering to resist the kiss? Would I be fear mongering if another friend came over and I suggested they not eat the pie or kiss someone who has?
I personally have no capacity to prove whether or not the pie has shit in it, and I think it is safe to not trust my wife's friend on account of their previous behavior before the event.
So, my ultimate point is this: I absolutely do not need to formally declare a hypothesis or substantiate that hypothesis with physical proof or evidence to come to the conclusion there is a non-zero chance shit is in the pie, even if by accident due to the carelessness of the friend.
Oh, and if there is shit in the pie, I really don't care that the science of baking would result in the germs being killed off. Personally, regardless of its sanitary nature, I don't want to eat a shit pie or kiss someone who has.
Personally, I do not see it as fear mongering.
Rather, it's justifiable hesitation. I'm not afraid of the pie, I simply just don't trust it and as such cannot make a recommendation for anyone else to either. The only way I would trust to eat the pie is if I saw it made from scratch, which, in the case of the "vaccines" they flagrantly refuse to disclose, which only adds to my hesitation.
In the case of the pie, you have ONLY one piece of evidence to go on. In the case of the vaccine, there is a metric shit ton of evidence. Because there is so much, and none of it supports the shit hypothesis, we don't assume there is shit just because we might have seen some at some point in the past in an unrelated event (something that is problematic with your hypothetical).
A better hypothetical would be, there was shit in a pie they made years ago. There isn't any on the hands of the current pie makers, at least none that we have seen.
Since all we have is the shit from years ago to go on, and all the evidence does not support the current shit theory, we discard that theory and assume that the Caltrops that were actually found in the current pie are the problem with this pie.
Would I be fear mongering if another friend came over and I suggested they not eat the pie or kiss someone who has?
If you started talking about how there might be shit in the pie, even though there was no evidence of it after a year of studying it, yes, that is fear mongering. If you talked about the caltrops for which there is supporting evidence, and you showed that evidence, that would be a report of evidence, and not fear mongering.
I absolutely do not need to formally declare a hypothesis or substantiate that hypothesis with physical proof or evidence to come to the conclusion there is a non-zero chance shit is in the pie
As a researcher (and as a human being) you have a responsibility to present the evidence and not your fears for which there is no evidence. I mean, you can talk about your fears, but presenting your fears as if it were evidence is irresponsible. Even when talking about your fears it is essential that you present it as such so that people can take it in the appropriate context. It helps with their decision making process to know that you are basing your statements on your fears, and not evidence that you aren't presenting.
Think about it. you are literally telling someone that they should not have a relationship with someone who got the vaccine because of something for which there is no substantive evidence. Do you not see how irresponsible that is? You have no right to tell people to not have a relationship with other people just because you are afraid of something for which there is no evidence. That type of shit is the opposite of We The People.
Separating us is their victory condition and our loss condition. We can't win this war if we give them the win.
I am basically writing a book on how the Cabal uses words to cast spells (its a report on the Matrix in which we live, but it boils down to that statement, and its become so long its practically a book). I have become pretty critical of how people use rhetoric to support their ideas. People are constantly casting spells on each other without realizing it. It has become our culture. I am pointing it out because it is harmful to use unbased fears to influence others decisions. That is how we got here in the first place.
Okay, as an aside, I tried to make a post about 2 months back and it got ate because it was too long.
I was only able to read the comment. There was nothing in the main body. Working with the comment though:
Tell me what you think
I'll do my best, but as Deep Thought said, "You aren't going to like it."
Before I get to the part you won't like, I think it is plausible that Satan is a real entity, and that that entity sits at the top of the pyramid. Though I think it is unlikely that it calls itself Satan, or that any of its worshipers do, but the name is unimportant. I think "Moloch" or Ba'al is likely a more apt name, though even those are likely incorrect, even if they are temporally more appropriate.
As for a Creator God and a direct meaningful relationship Humans may have with that entity, I don't know what to think. I have seen some things lately that make me think the idea of a Christian God may have some merit, though not in the way Christianity constructs the idea. But underneath it, within the teachings of Christ I think there is merit to the idea of a personal Creator God, or a Creator that actually gives a crap about Humans. What type of entity that is, what scope of Creation that entity created has conflicting evidence (such as it is). Note that the teachings of Christ, which I have recently revisited quite a bit, and Christianity are actually pretty different. When I was a Christian I could have never understood that concept.
In the end, it all comes down to Faith.
There are two definitions of faith. One is the ability to transcend rational thought and delve into the subconscious or "spiritual" realm. In this definition it is the transcendence of the Matrix that is our mind that is the important concept of faith.
The other definition is to assign the powers of transcendence to another entity, to the extent that we also assign critical thinking and discernment over as well. It is in all ways demeaning to the individual, even though it is not seen that way by its adherents. For example, if I find something within the Bible that doesn't agree with evidence, I take it on faith that it is my meagre mind that can't make it comprehensible and that the Bible is right and my interpretation of the evidence is what is wrong.
I believe that definition of faith was put in by Satan (or people representing that entity, real or imagined). I think almost the entire OT and possibly some of the NT was put into the Bible by Satan (where by "Satan" I mean what I just stated, the entity themselves, or people representing that entity). There is so much in the OT that makes zero sense for a Creator God, but makes so much more sense if you replace the word "God" with the word "Moloch." When you do that, all the cognitive dissonance goes away and there becomes no more need to rationalize things like the Passover, where a Creator God has to choose the lesser of two evils by enacting murder by thug to slaughter children to save "the chosen race" (the one race above all the rest of "God's creations").
In other words, I think the second (and most commonly adhered to definition of) Faith is the lie that has controlled humanity for millennia.
As for the first; transcendence of the rational brain, I think there is a lot there worth exploring. It may bring a better idea of what "God" is (and what "God" Is not within the common dogma).
How about those animal study phase the shot never made it out of? What happened to all those animals?
They all died from an ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). This is a severe immune response when encountering the wild type virus after getting the vaccines. There is some evidence to support that this might be happening with the current vaccines. I think the "Delta Variant" may be hiding some of these deaths.
But that is not data, and that has NOTHING to do with the topic of my post, which was specifically an address on unfounded fears of infertility or other fertility problems. THAT is based purely on fear mongering (with ALL the evidence so far).
Give this a watch, and tell me what you think. It's more than just ADE
Except at the end, what is talked about in that video is a short term effect. The ADE is a long term effect. They are completely different scopes of problems.
The video talks about the S protein "getting in the way" because they are sticking out. I have a big problem with that idea. First, they are way too small relative to the size of a capillary or blood cell, second, all cells have all sorts of proteins just like the S protein sticking out.
I think there may be something to the blood clots happening in the capillaries. In fact, I think its likely. Blood cells spend more time squeezing through a capillary than they do flowing through veins and arteries, so if there is going to be an interaction with blood cell/vasculature or blood cell/blood cell it is entirely probable it would happen in the capillaries, but whatever the reason is, I don't think that part of it was correct. It just doesn't make sense for the reasons I listed. That doesn't mean its not the reason, but to me, it makes no sense, so data would be needed to show it before I will consider it.
Having said that, I mostly agree with the other things he said. I also disagree with his assessment of "permanent damage," though that is an argument with the larger medical community that I have.
I also see why you said "dead in three years." Those reactions he was talking about are rare. I do think they have happened. It does seem a plausible long term effect, but the data suggests it will be a rarity, not a common reaction. Just like "long term covid" is very rare according to the data (they are likely related reactions).
As for the S protein being the disease, that is true for sure, though it is not the only problem with either SARS-CoV-2 or the vaccines it is probably the biggest one in both cases (though the autoimmune problems with the vaccine may be equal or even worse to S protein problems).
This is kinda vaguely stated. I'm not really sure what you mean, but I'll try to respond.
Exactly which counterpoints were true?
I stated that there was no evidence to support a stated fear. To the best of my knowledge, that is true, there is no evidence. It was touted as "The Standing Theory" but it would have been more accurate if he had said, "My unfounded fear." My protest was of advising someone against interacting with other people intimately because of a fear without any evidential foundation.
He stated that "people were sterilized by the shot". There is no evidence to support that statement. No evidence was provided in any counterpoints, so what "counterpoint" was true exactly?
He stated that "people have only 3 years to live" after the shot. There is no evidence to support that statement, so what "counterpoint" was true exactly?
I could say, "The Standing Theory is that a nuclear bomb is going to hit your house tomorrow. Because a nuclear bomb is going to hit your house tomorrow, you should be very afraid."
It MIGHT be true. There is no evidence that a nuclear bomb WON'T hit your house tomorrow. But its not a rational fear if there is no evidence.
My point is that you're both speculating. The "there is no evidence of" line is simply lazy. What is a rational fear is an entirely different question.
You are both looking at different "evidence" and coming to different conclusions.
I don't know what evidence that sleepydude is looking at, that's up to him to support his theory. But you didn't support yours either, you simply claimed that he had no evidence of that.
There was no evidence that thalidomide will hurt your baby, until there was.
There was no evidence that smoking was bad for you, until there was.
There was no evidence that the NSA was hoovering up everyone's data, until there was.
I have spent thousands of hours investigating it. I have spent hundreds of hours posting about the fraud in the "evidence" that is presented. I couldn't possibly be less lazy about this.
You are both looking at different "evidence" and coming to different conclusions.
This is again, the opposite of the truth. I have looked at, and addressed ad nauseum, all evidence. I may not have here, but I have had this conversation many times on this board. There are numerous lies and disinformation in the "evidence" of infertility. I have pointed them out in exhausting detail. If anyone were to have brought up specific evidence in this conversation I would have pointed to my previous rebuttals (and substantial contrary evidence) of their evidence.
No evidence was provided to support the arguments, so I provided no evidential rebuttal. I can't address something that doesn't exist. But my post was not a discrediting of evidence, but a pointing out of fear mongering using an appeal to authority.
I don't know what evidence that sleepydude is looking at, that's up to him to support his theory.
I do know, because I have addressed it on numerous occasions.
But you didn't support yours either, you simply claimed that he had no evidence of that.
See above.
There was no evidence...
There has been substantial evidence for "infertility" and I have rebutted it substantially. If I have rebutted it (with substantial corroborating evidence and never a follow up rebuttal to show the flaws in my argument) then I can call out someone saying "Standing Theory" as promoting their argument above its appropriate place.
That is really all I did. I said, "you have a fear. It is unfounded in evidence." I NEVER said it wasn't true. I don't know what the truth is. I am myself on the lookout for evidence to support the idea that the vaccines cause infertility. I myself think it might be true. But I am NOT going to promote fears in others for it by raising it above what it is, which is pure speculation without evidence. If I have fears about it, I will say, "I have fears about it." I will say, "I am looking for evidence to support it. I have found nothing credible yet." I will say, "All the evidence I have found has shown itself to be mis or disinformation and in all ways not credible after the test of debate."
That is what I would say. I would not make an appeal to authority to promote it past a fear, because that is fear mongering. If I did, I would hope someone would call me out for doing that, because that helps no one and has the potential to be harmful in the decision making process of the individuals I am trying to influence with such authoritative and otherwise unsubstantiated appeals.
We don’t even know if it’s possible for a vaccinated woman to carry a baby to term yet. It hasn’t even been 5 months (women in their 20s & 30s weren't eligible for the jab until May 2021) By next Summer—we will know.
I do know 3 women who got pregnant and randomly lost their babies in the 1st term by either getting the jab or by being closely around those who were jabbed (shedding spike proteins first 2 weeks after jab).
It’s sad and evil but I believe there is a reason China randomly updated its 1 child policy and the elite are letting abortion laws change. Evil
I listened to an interview with a physician (can't remember who, now, there have been so many), who claimed that since the ingredients from the shot seem to concentrate especially around female reproductive organs, that there is a likelihood that many female fetuses inside vaccinated mothers will become sterile. They won't know this until they, themselves, try to become pregnant twenty years later.
Just want to take a moment to point out how fubar this whole thing has become when we literally have a legitimate use for terminology like pure bloods vs vaxed.
Any other time in my life, I would be thinking people discussing pure bloods were some kind of eugenicist racists, and now it is literally a fact of humanity that some people have taken a genetic altering vaccine that literally damages their RBC, vascular system, and reproductive system, and likely other organs and systems.
I don’t believe it effects the dna in the sperm or egg, but who knows for sure. Who knows how it will effect the development of the baby, if the baby will even make it to birth.
ok so what we know so far is the virus has 4 parts, the spike, the spike collar, the shell, and the rna which codes to have the body create and assemble the 4 parts. the shell is from the common cold. the spike collar that holds the spike together at the base and attaches it to the shell, is from hiv. The 'spike' that allows the virus to attach to a mammals body cells and gain entry is the 'novel' or new part that was biologically assembled with the other pieces by humans. the 'collar' piece that holds the spike together is part of hiv, which has its own spike unique from the coronavirus spike.
the vaccine has only partial rna, it makes the spike (and the hiv collar hat holds the spike in its shape I believe) but doesn't contain the code to make the shells, reproduce more copies of the rna, and assemble all the parts together.. however your body has code to copy the rna into the dna of cells and then reproduce copies making it a permanent feature, but its a roll of the dice if that happens or not..
Yes. They are probably mostly impotent anyhow, and they are also unable to think independently or critically, so probably not the best parenting material.
Not at all because the vaccine makes sure no babies can be born. 75% of those taking the vaccine either men or women can no longer have children. If you do fall into the 25% that still can the baby is born with spike protein if it is born at all. 85% of pregnancies terminate before birth.
Well, if they are changing genetics I'd say duh don't do it! Satan will do ANYTHING to dilute purebloods. Just like the nephilim created beings (where Greek, Egyptian gods etc come from). I'd avoid that at ALL fucking costs.
The "science" is undecided at this time. We will know more in 6 months.
I'm married. I'm more concerned about what my kids are going to have to deal with and if I'm going to adopt the kids of a bunch of dead vaxxed parents who drank the kool-aid.
That fact that I have 7 people left, in my entire family, that are untainted by the vaxx...and can call ourselves pureblood... gives me strength. Bding pureblood equates with having a warrior heart.
There is no evidence that supports the idea that meaningful DNA alterations have taken place because of the vaccines. There is no biology that supports the idea either. There is no reason to suspect that the question in your title has a positive answer.
Having said that, not having an evidence yet doesn't mean none will ever come forth. However, the fact that known biology does not support the idea is a meaningful data point to guide decisions on the matter without further evidence to go on.
when I see a woman whos vaccinated, I am instantly turned off. I dont wanna stick my pipe in anyones vaccinated hooohaaa. Idk where the well of attractive conservative women are, but I never find any that are single. Im killing my bloodline, so its okay being alone. My bloodlines done enough we dont need to reproduce.
According to Aajonus Vonderplanitz the only one who knows anything about human health he says traditionally vaccines + cooked diet you should wait 2.5 years on the raw meat diet before even having kids to avoid physical malformations in birthing due to toxic womb, so given these vaccines seems to be like x500 deadlier Id say youd probly have to wait like 1250 years on the raw diet
We don't have enough information to say with any confidence. It's still much too soon.
With that said, I will personally be avoiding intimate relationships with the vaccinated, just to be safe.
That's good policy.
I haven't read one single study about whether, or not, the vaccine has any effect on a newborn baby.
There’s a video floating around of a newborn baby shaking pretty hard, story is mum was vaccinated before giving birth.
Well, considering the standing theory is that the vaccinated people:
A. Are sterilized by the shot
B. Only have 3 years to live due to the cardio problems
C. Were dumb enough to get the jab to begin with
All point toward parentage with such a person isn't only likely impossible now, but simply irresponsible.
You don't have a kid if you know you're not gonna survive at most 3 years past their birth. It's just cruel to the kid and the surviving parent.
Marriage sure, why not, but having kids?
I won't judge someone who does, even if they could, but know that you've chosen a pointlessly hard path if you do.
There is no "standing theory". Suggesting that there is suggests that there is evidence to support the ideas. It is an appeal to authority to support an argument for which there is no good evidence. It would be more appropriate to say "my hypothesis which some (few) other people share".
There is zero evidence to support this. There is evidence that it causes substantial spontaneous abortions in the first two trimesters, but that can easily be caused by a shock to the system (which the vaccine causes). It can also be caused by permanent damage to the reproductive organs, but there is zero substantive evidence to support that conclusion.
This again has zero evidential support. I am sure it is probably true for some people, but the vaccine causes different damage to different people. Not everyone is susceptible to heart damage from the spike protein and/or inflammation/autoimmune heart damage the vaccine might cause. Each individual has different diet/genetics/state of health/where the vaccine accumulates/etc. Patterns may emerge for statistical evidence to support such an idea, but we don't have any data to support ANY long term problems, nor do we have any idea of statistical long term patterns (yet).
I can't argue with this one.
This is nothing but fear mongering, and it doesn't even have a lick of evidential support (that I have seen). All evidence that I have seen that would warrant these particular fears I have provided substantial evidence to the contrary. That evidence being ignored because people would rather be fearful than not is not my fault. But I am calling this for what it is. Fear mongering.
Where did I say anything that remotely resembles anything like this statement? This is called a strawman. I did not say anything like this. I was addressing specific fears for which there is no evidence. I have made thousands of posts of the dangers of the vaccines. Those posts are based on corroborated evidence.
Not only does it not exist yet, but there isn't any current evidence that supports the fear at all.
This isn't about money (well, not primarily). This is about teaching people to give up their freedoms "for the good of the many." Such a lesson is a primer for their "Great Reset" which will ask people to give up ALL freedoms for the good of the many (the insidious path to total population slavery used by all communist, socialist, and fascist regimes).
The evidence suggests it does a lot of harm, though the evidence also suggests its not as harmful as many people fear it is. There is disinformation on both sides of this issue. I have spent hundreds of hours writing the details and analyses about this disinformation on both sides.
Science is not meant to be trusted. It is actually designed to be forever debated (never trusted). The statement "trust the science" is meant to confuse people, because science is intrinsically not trustable, but debatable.
I have an actual theory that says the same thing. It has substantial evidence to support it.
Within that evidence there is none that supports the claims or fears of infertility.
Oh, one other thing, while I've got your attention.
I know we got into a spat way back when, but I'll be honest, I do value your opinion. I think you're quite learned, in spite of a slight unwillingness t consider that the world at large may, very shortly, be required to unlearn things which would completely reconfigure organic, viral, and even periodic chemistry as we know it. We don't know how far the lies go.
With that in mind, I've been struggling with the idea of graphene in the "vaccines." That may surprise you, given my previous statement, but I don't see why they would need graphene to accomplish such a goal. It seem superficial to their ends. The Japanese reports of stuff in the "vaccines" do give this idea credence though.
Anyway...
Serendipitously, while researching a completely separate subject, I stumbled upon Phosphorene.
Aside from phosphorus' namesake being translatable to "light bearer" (also lucifer) and this sum bitchin' page looking like an upside down cross overlaid text on the Philosopher's stone, I'm a little perplexed. I mean, we know the Cabal have a big Satan thing going on, whether or not everyone is in on it, so...
What's your take? Assuming they may just be putting nanoparticle structures in the "vaccines", would Phosphorene be more or less likely than Graphene? Is it just for the voodoo magic like the Luciferase?
One more from the wiki article for Phosphorene, on top of that...
This line smells like 5G conspiracies, which I have a harder time swallowing as it rides on the graphene nanoparticle theory.
Thoughts?
This is a problem. People often think that just because I disagree with them that I do not value their thoughts or opinions. Nothing could be further from the truth. Just because I don't sugar coat things doesn't mean I think badly of someone. I think you are a valuable researcher and I always read what you present.
But I am a scientist. I think of things scientifically (not exclusively, but when talking about science things I do). When I present arguments I call it like I see it, which is as a data analyst/scientist/researcher.
I don't know why you would think that about me. I agree with this 100%. I think there is going to be a Science Great Awakening as well. I think what you might be confusing is that such an awakening would be based on substantive evidence and not speculation. I speculate all the time, but I only use those speculations to drive my search for evidence. I do not give those speculations any more weight than they deserve. That is what I consider to be a major difference between me and many people who post here.
They wouldn't, though there may be meaningful uses for it. I just haven't seen any evidence that substantially supports the idea that it is in these vaccines. That doesn't mean that they aren't in them, Its just the the evidence provided so far does not support it by my analysis.
Nevertheless, there are reasons that they may want to inject graphene for nefarious technologies. But I also agree that there are other ways. They wouldn't "need" graphene.
I haven't read them yet. From the reports of the reports I only saw that it was "something" magnetic, nothing specific. That could be literally anything. There are so many things that could be magnetic, without further study assuming it is graphene would be purely speculative at this point.
I certainly can't say phosphorene is impossible. I don't know of any method to produce it in sufficient quantities, but production of phosphorene would hardly be the least of the potential hidden technologies. As for what they could do with it... I am not sure. Self assembling technologies using sheets is not something I have studied in much depth, though I certainly could look into it. I know a fair bit more about biological methods of self-assembly (DNA, RNA, peptide chains, lipid nanoparticles, etc.)
I would imagine that phosphorene self assembly would use similar techniques to graphene self assembly, which would be based on the additions to the sheets. Like, if you add certain moieties onto the edge of sheets you can get them to join in a certain way. Such moieties (like adding a hydroxyl group e.g.) to the edge of a sheet could help such sheets group around a metal ion (chelate the ion) for example. I'm just spitballing here, but yes, if you could create phosphorene in large quantities you could theoretically create self assembling tech and inject it.
I'm not sure why they would do that and not use graphene, but its not impossible if they have the tech to mass produce it. Then again, me not being sure why, doesn't mean there aren't good reasons. They do have different properties and it will likely become future tech with both similar and different applications to graphene.
Well, 20Ghz is right in line with 5G, so...
Regardless, I don't think the 5G conspiracies have any credence with regard to this vaccine.
That's the problem with all these theories.
I think many of the ideas have merit with regard to their intent, and possible tech. But there is no evidence to support them. I appreciate the speculation and the research, but there is so much evidence, and so little supports the wild speculations. I don't dismiss the speculations, but giving them more credence than they deserve is not sound reasoning. There are real concerns with actual evidence. I think it is more important to look there and do research there.
Maybe that's just me. I certainly don't want to discourage anyone doing any research. I just don't want "speculation" to turn into "standing theory" without evidence. That leads to bad decisions.
Listen, bud, I don't want to get in a spat. Others seem to be jumping on you anyway, so I'll just make it quick.
The Globalists like Schwab, Soros and Gates have been going on for decades how they want to reduce the world population.
They all have financial interests in vaccine companies.
Vaccines that have been produced by them have left many in 3rd world countries sterile or producing children with great deformities.
Cutting all the science theories, studies, research and what ifs aside, if you follow the money, it's clear A, B, and C are the primary goals for, in their mind, a successful vaccination(apartheid) campaign.
So, assuming they made something that fits the "Bill", I'm gonna boldly say, yeah, vaccinated people aren't in for a good time.
Yup, and not one of them addressed a single thing I actually said, but rather addressed suppositions of things that had not one thing to do with what I said.
When one gets into a debate, one should address the argument presented and not a made up argument that was not presented. That is called a strawman.
Yup. I've written a fair bit about this.
I have substantial evidence to support this statement and have written about it many times. I am writing what is turning into a book about these very facts.
Not a single argument from me about this. I agree 100%.
And again, we have no argument here.
This is 100% speculative. Basing "the standing theory" on something that is 100% speculative is not a theory it is a hypothesis. It can become a theory if it has evidential support. There is none. When you try to make a hypothesis into a theory without presenting evidence but just by calling it a "standing theory" that is an appeal to authority to make it into a stronger argument than it is, because it has no actual evidence to support it.
We have a metric FUCKTON of data on these vaccines. None of it supports the hypothesis of infertility, genetic damage to sperm/eggs, etc.. Promoting an idea that there is, without such evidence, is exactly what "fear mongering" is. You are trying to make people afraid of something for which there is no evidential support within the large body of data that we have.
You think that just because they have motive to do so that they have done it. That is supposition. If, within the mountain of evidence that we have there was supporting evidence for the theory, then I would be agreeing that the evidence does support it, but there isn't any, and that is why I disagree with it.
You are spreading a fear that all the evidence for the vaccines that we have does not support.
I think you're hung up on semantics.
I count miscarriages along with general sterility.
I've heard a TON of anecdotal stories about how pregnant women are having miscarriages as well as pregnant women who are simply in proximity with someone who was recently vaccinated. Hell, I've been getting prayer requests from Church by pregnant mothers having severe complications.
Oh, and by the way, we don't have evidence because it is being suppressed. All we have is anecdotes, so if those aren't good enough for you, then by your metrics we can't form ANY theories because the people in charge won't let us. Which is all sorts of a mind fuck of circular logic to me.
You gotta chill with the semantic arguments, is all I'm saying. All those rules you're hell-bent on following were put in place by bad actors to make sure the Truth is always quashed by those who have a precious degree and seek to lord it over us.
Common sense calls them as they see them, and I've seen a fair share of people say, yeah, it's making it hard to make babies.
Nicki Minaj's current affair with her friend's testicles growing to pop is a marked case I'm surprised you don't count among pertinent evidence. Is she a fear-monger?
There is substantial evidence that the vaccines interfere with pregnancy. The problem is, the vaccine causes an autoimmune response. That is its entire design purpose. It also causes substantial shock to the human body. Both of those also cause spontaneous abortion in the first 6 months of pregnancy, which is the time period where the evidence suggests the pregnancy problems are occurring (there is no substantial evidence that I have seen that it is occurring in the final trimester).
Just because you count miscarriages along with general sterility doesn't mean that biologically they are the same idea. Losing a baby due to a system shock and autoimmune response, and not being able to get pregnant and/or later having pregnancy issues are biologically very different things. There is data to support the first, not the second.
Maybe, maybe not. I have a TON of evidence for all sorts of things that are being suppressed. I have no evidence of this. We go with what we have, not what we can suppose. We can suppose all sorts of untrue things. That is the capacity of the human mind. That is why it is essential that we use actual evidence in the decision making process.
See above.
I honestly don't think I am doing that at all. Using the phrase "standing theory" really does give an unsubstantiated idea more support than it deserves. It also causes fear in others by using that appeal to authority.
I am basically writing a book on how the Cabal uses words to cast spells (its a report on the Matrix in which we live, but it boils down to that statement, and its become so long its practically a book). I have become pretty critical of how people use rhetoric to support their ideas. People are constantly casting spells on each other without realizing it. It has become our culture. I am pointing it out because it is harmful to use unbased fears to influence others decisions. That is how we got here in the first place.
Yup, that is all part of the report. You will understand my perspective much better when I am done. Hopefully very soon.
"Common sense" is an illusion of truth. Common sense is actually more often a lie designed to control the population than anything having to do with the truth. Common sense is exploitable and it pretty much always is exploited by the Cabal to mislead.
I've seen no other reports of this in the VAERS reports. One piece of anecdote does not count as substantive evidence, no matter how much anyone might want it to. Anecdotes are great, for pointing in the direction of an investigation, but by themselves they are meaningless as evidence. If you get enough anecdotes you can create a statistical argument, but one anecdote is, outside of a direction for investigation, otherwise completely meaningless.
Here's the deal, and I've given this great thought.
Let's say I'm going over to a my wife's friend's house.
The friend has gotten into a ton of weird health stuff, and it's been getting weirder.
I enter the house with my wife and the friend has made some pie.
The pie looks a little rough, but no different than any other home-made pie.
The only thing is, the friend's hands are covered in shit. It smells, and looks like shit.
The friend offers my wife and I some pie.
Now, here's the deal. I have no evidence that shit is in the pie. The shit on the friend's hands could be completely coincidental, even though the friend seems to be making no effort to clean it off.
I maintain hesitation, not fear, and refuse to eat the pie.
Continuing with the scenario -- despite, my hesitation and my recommendation that she not eat the pie, my wife eats some of the pie, assuring me that her friend would not put shit in it. The friend is silent on the matter.
She seems to enjoy it, but this is my wife's friend, not mine. I don't know enough about the friend to make any conclusions on whether or not my wife has or has not become a shit eater. I only have anecdotal evidence that the friend has been getting into some weird stuff.
I do trust my wife, however, but I can't trust her judgement because it could be blinded by the trust she has with her friend.
Finally, we move past the shit pie segment and later in the evening my wife goes in for a kiss.
Now, I still don't know for certain if she ate a shit pie. The ultimate question I have for you is this:
Am I fear mongering to resist the kiss? Would I be fear mongering if another friend came over and I suggested they not eat the pie or kiss someone who has?
I personally have no capacity to prove whether or not the pie has shit in it, and I think it is safe to not trust my wife's friend on account of their previous behavior before the event.
So, my ultimate point is this: I absolutely do not need to formally declare a hypothesis or substantiate that hypothesis with physical proof or evidence to come to the conclusion there is a non-zero chance shit is in the pie, even if by accident due to the carelessness of the friend.
Oh, and if there is shit in the pie, I really don't care that the science of baking would result in the germs being killed off. Personally, regardless of its sanitary nature, I don't want to eat a shit pie or kiss someone who has.
Personally, I do not see it as fear mongering.
Rather, it's justifiable hesitation. I'm not afraid of the pie, I simply just don't trust it and as such cannot make a recommendation for anyone else to either. The only way I would trust to eat the pie is if I saw it made from scratch, which, in the case of the "vaccines" they flagrantly refuse to disclose, which only adds to my hesitation.
In the case of the pie, you have ONLY one piece of evidence to go on. In the case of the vaccine, there is a metric shit ton of evidence. Because there is so much, and none of it supports the shit hypothesis, we don't assume there is shit just because we might have seen some at some point in the past in an unrelated event (something that is problematic with your hypothetical).
A better hypothetical would be, there was shit in a pie they made years ago. There isn't any on the hands of the current pie makers, at least none that we have seen.
Since all we have is the shit from years ago to go on, and all the evidence does not support the current shit theory, we discard that theory and assume that the Caltrops that were actually found in the current pie are the problem with this pie.
If you started talking about how there might be shit in the pie, even though there was no evidence of it after a year of studying it, yes, that is fear mongering. If you talked about the caltrops for which there is supporting evidence, and you showed that evidence, that would be a report of evidence, and not fear mongering.
As a researcher (and as a human being) you have a responsibility to present the evidence and not your fears for which there is no evidence. I mean, you can talk about your fears, but presenting your fears as if it were evidence is irresponsible. Even when talking about your fears it is essential that you present it as such so that people can take it in the appropriate context. It helps with their decision making process to know that you are basing your statements on your fears, and not evidence that you aren't presenting.
Think about it. you are literally telling someone that they should not have a relationship with someone who got the vaccine because of something for which there is no substantive evidence. Do you not see how irresponsible that is? You have no right to tell people to not have a relationship with other people just because you are afraid of something for which there is no evidence. That type of shit is the opposite of We The People.
Separating us is their victory condition and our loss condition. We can't win this war if we give them the win.
Okay, as an aside, I tried to make a post about 2 months back and it got ate because it was too long.
I think I'm 100% with you on this point.
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jJe3ag0y/layers-of-lies-how-magic-works/
If you can't read it, I'll copy-paste in a comment. Tell me what you think.
I was only able to read the comment. There was nothing in the main body. Working with the comment though:
I'll do my best, but as Deep Thought said, "You aren't going to like it."
Before I get to the part you won't like, I think it is plausible that Satan is a real entity, and that that entity sits at the top of the pyramid. Though I think it is unlikely that it calls itself Satan, or that any of its worshipers do, but the name is unimportant. I think "Moloch" or Ba'al is likely a more apt name, though even those are likely incorrect, even if they are temporally more appropriate.
As for a Creator God and a direct meaningful relationship Humans may have with that entity, I don't know what to think. I have seen some things lately that make me think the idea of a Christian God may have some merit, though not in the way Christianity constructs the idea. But underneath it, within the teachings of Christ I think there is merit to the idea of a personal Creator God, or a Creator that actually gives a crap about Humans. What type of entity that is, what scope of Creation that entity created has conflicting evidence (such as it is). Note that the teachings of Christ, which I have recently revisited quite a bit, and Christianity are actually pretty different. When I was a Christian I could have never understood that concept.
There are two definitions of faith. One is the ability to transcend rational thought and delve into the subconscious or "spiritual" realm. In this definition it is the transcendence of the Matrix that is our mind that is the important concept of faith.
The other definition is to assign the powers of transcendence to another entity, to the extent that we also assign critical thinking and discernment over as well. It is in all ways demeaning to the individual, even though it is not seen that way by its adherents. For example, if I find something within the Bible that doesn't agree with evidence, I take it on faith that it is my meagre mind that can't make it comprehensible and that the Bible is right and my interpretation of the evidence is what is wrong.
I believe that definition of faith was put in by Satan (or people representing that entity, real or imagined). I think almost the entire OT and possibly some of the NT was put into the Bible by Satan (where by "Satan" I mean what I just stated, the entity themselves, or people representing that entity). There is so much in the OT that makes zero sense for a Creator God, but makes so much more sense if you replace the word "God" with the word "Moloch." When you do that, all the cognitive dissonance goes away and there becomes no more need to rationalize things like the Passover, where a Creator God has to choose the lesser of two evils by enacting murder by thug to slaughter children to save "the chosen race" (the one race above all the rest of "God's creations").
In other words, I think the second (and most commonly adhered to definition of) Faith is the lie that has controlled humanity for millennia.
As for the first; transcendence of the rational brain, I think there is a lot there worth exploring. It may bring a better idea of what "God" is (and what "God" Is not within the common dogma).
"...but we don't have any data to support ANY long term problems, nor do we have any idea of statistical long term patterns (yet)."
How about those animal study phase the shot never made it out of? What happened to all those animals?
They all died from an ADE (antibody dependent enhancement). This is a severe immune response when encountering the wild type virus after getting the vaccines. There is some evidence to support that this might be happening with the current vaccines. I think the "Delta Variant" may be hiding some of these deaths.
But that is not data, and that has NOTHING to do with the topic of my post, which was specifically an address on unfounded fears of infertility or other fertility problems. THAT is based purely on fear mongering (with ALL the evidence so far).
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lnr5zv0o1CVn/
Give this a watch, and tell me what you think. It's more than just ADE, which I do agree is going on.
The Spike Proteins ARE the disease.
Except at the end, what is talked about in that video is a short term effect. The ADE is a long term effect. They are completely different scopes of problems.
The video talks about the S protein "getting in the way" because they are sticking out. I have a big problem with that idea. First, they are way too small relative to the size of a capillary or blood cell, second, all cells have all sorts of proteins just like the S protein sticking out.
I think there may be something to the blood clots happening in the capillaries. In fact, I think its likely. Blood cells spend more time squeezing through a capillary than they do flowing through veins and arteries, so if there is going to be an interaction with blood cell/vasculature or blood cell/blood cell it is entirely probable it would happen in the capillaries, but whatever the reason is, I don't think that part of it was correct. It just doesn't make sense for the reasons I listed. That doesn't mean its not the reason, but to me, it makes no sense, so data would be needed to show it before I will consider it.
Having said that, I mostly agree with the other things he said. I also disagree with his assessment of "permanent damage," though that is an argument with the larger medical community that I have.
I also see why you said "dead in three years." Those reactions he was talking about are rare. I do think they have happened. It does seem a plausible long term effect, but the data suggests it will be a rarity, not a common reaction. Just like "long term covid" is very rare according to the data (they are likely related reactions).
As for the S protein being the disease, that is true for sure, though it is not the only problem with either SARS-CoV-2 or the vaccines it is probably the biggest one in both cases (though the autoimmune problems with the vaccine may be equal or even worse to S protein problems).
While your points are valid, so are the counter points: there is no evidence to suggest it's not true, either.
This is kinda vaguely stated. I'm not really sure what you mean, but I'll try to respond.
Exactly which counterpoints were true?
I stated that there was no evidence to support a stated fear. To the best of my knowledge, that is true, there is no evidence. It was touted as "The Standing Theory" but it would have been more accurate if he had said, "My unfounded fear." My protest was of advising someone against interacting with other people intimately because of a fear without any evidential foundation.
He stated that "people were sterilized by the shot". There is no evidence to support that statement. No evidence was provided in any counterpoints, so what "counterpoint" was true exactly?
He stated that "people have only 3 years to live" after the shot. There is no evidence to support that statement, so what "counterpoint" was true exactly?
I could say, "The Standing Theory is that a nuclear bomb is going to hit your house tomorrow. Because a nuclear bomb is going to hit your house tomorrow, you should be very afraid."
It MIGHT be true. There is no evidence that a nuclear bomb WON'T hit your house tomorrow. But its not a rational fear if there is no evidence.
My point is that you're both speculating. The "there is no evidence of" line is simply lazy. What is a rational fear is an entirely different question.
You are both looking at different "evidence" and coming to different conclusions.
I don't know what evidence that sleepydude is looking at, that's up to him to support his theory. But you didn't support yours either, you simply claimed that he had no evidence of that.
There was no evidence that thalidomide will hurt your baby, until there was.
There was no evidence that smoking was bad for you, until there was.
There was no evidence that the NSA was hoovering up everyone's data, until there was.
You see the point?
I have spent thousands of hours investigating it. I have spent hundreds of hours posting about the fraud in the "evidence" that is presented. I couldn't possibly be less lazy about this.
This is again, the opposite of the truth. I have looked at, and addressed ad nauseum, all evidence. I may not have here, but I have had this conversation many times on this board. There are numerous lies and disinformation in the "evidence" of infertility. I have pointed them out in exhausting detail. If anyone were to have brought up specific evidence in this conversation I would have pointed to my previous rebuttals (and substantial contrary evidence) of their evidence.
No evidence was provided to support the arguments, so I provided no evidential rebuttal. I can't address something that doesn't exist. But my post was not a discrediting of evidence, but a pointing out of fear mongering using an appeal to authority.
I do know, because I have addressed it on numerous occasions.
See above.
There has been substantial evidence for "infertility" and I have rebutted it substantially. If I have rebutted it (with substantial corroborating evidence and never a follow up rebuttal to show the flaws in my argument) then I can call out someone saying "Standing Theory" as promoting their argument above its appropriate place.
That is really all I did. I said, "you have a fear. It is unfounded in evidence." I NEVER said it wasn't true. I don't know what the truth is. I am myself on the lookout for evidence to support the idea that the vaccines cause infertility. I myself think it might be true. But I am NOT going to promote fears in others for it by raising it above what it is, which is pure speculation without evidence. If I have fears about it, I will say, "I have fears about it." I will say, "I am looking for evidence to support it. I have found nothing credible yet." I will say, "All the evidence I have found has shown itself to be mis or disinformation and in all ways not credible after the test of debate."
That is what I would say. I would not make an appeal to authority to promote it past a fear, because that is fear mongering. If I did, I would hope someone would call me out for doing that, because that helps no one and has the potential to be harmful in the decision making process of the individuals I am trying to influence with such authoritative and otherwise unsubstantiated appeals.
Well your response was lazy then, considering you claim to have so much knowledge on the subject.
That's just ridiculous.
Look guy, I'm just commenting on what I'm seeing in this thread. No idea you guys had a "thing"
Semantics
That's my point.
We are about to enter into a brave new world with all this. There are many questions around fertility already for the jabbed.
We don’t even know if it’s possible for a vaccinated woman to carry a baby to term yet. It hasn’t even been 5 months (women in their 20s & 30s weren't eligible for the jab until May 2021) By next Summer—we will know. I do know 3 women who got pregnant and randomly lost their babies in the 1st term by either getting the jab or by being closely around those who were jabbed (shedding spike proteins first 2 weeks after jab).
It’s sad and evil but I believe there is a reason China randomly updated its 1 child policy and the elite are letting abortion laws change. Evil
I listened to an interview with a physician (can't remember who, now, there have been so many), who claimed that since the ingredients from the shot seem to concentrate especially around female reproductive organs, that there is a likelihood that many female fetuses inside vaccinated mothers will become sterile. They won't know this until they, themselves, try to become pregnant twenty years later.
Just want to take a moment to point out how fubar this whole thing has become when we literally have a legitimate use for terminology like pure bloods vs vaxed.
Any other time in my life, I would be thinking people discussing pure bloods were some kind of eugenicist racists, and now it is literally a fact of humanity that some people have taken a genetic altering vaccine that literally damages their RBC, vascular system, and reproductive system, and likely other organs and systems.
I couldn't agree more. It's crazy stuff.
There's several Star Trek novels about the Eugenics Wars.
If you caught "Space Seed" in the series or Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan, you know they were trying to engineer a better race of humans.
We're just trying to keep what we got.
I don’t believe it effects the dna in the sperm or egg, but who knows for sure. Who knows how it will effect the development of the baby, if the baby will even make it to birth.
That is if one who is vaxed could even procreate
purebloods lol.
This word going viral atm.
Isn’t there HIV in the vaccine?
ok so what we know so far is the virus has 4 parts, the spike, the spike collar, the shell, and the rna which codes to have the body create and assemble the 4 parts. the shell is from the common cold. the spike collar that holds the spike together at the base and attaches it to the shell, is from hiv. The 'spike' that allows the virus to attach to a mammals body cells and gain entry is the 'novel' or new part that was biologically assembled with the other pieces by humans. the 'collar' piece that holds the spike together is part of hiv, which has its own spike unique from the coronavirus spike.
the vaccine has only partial rna, it makes the spike (and the hiv collar hat holds the spike in its shape I believe) but doesn't contain the code to make the shells, reproduce more copies of the rna, and assemble all the parts together.. however your body has code to copy the rna into the dna of cells and then reproduce copies making it a permanent feature, but its a roll of the dice if that happens or not..
Yes. They are probably mostly impotent anyhow, and they are also unable to think independently or critically, so probably not the best parenting material.
Not at all because the vaccine makes sure no babies can be born. 75% of those taking the vaccine either men or women can no longer have children. If you do fall into the 25% that still can the baby is born with spike protein if it is born at all. 85% of pregnancies terminate before birth.
Well, if they are changing genetics I'd say duh don't do it! Satan will do ANYTHING to dilute purebloods. Just like the nephilim created beings (where Greek, Egyptian gods etc come from). I'd avoid that at ALL fucking costs.
Worth reading: https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFwdewq6/clot-shot-fever/c/
The "science" is undecided at this time. We will know more in 6 months.
I'm married. I'm more concerned about what my kids are going to have to deal with and if I'm going to adopt the kids of a bunch of dead vaxxed parents who drank the kool-aid.
I would not even exchange bodily fluids with a “vaccinated” person, that includes accepting blood.
For now, avoid that like the plague.
Sounds like a market for a new dating app.
That fact that I have 7 people left, in my entire family, that are untainted by the vaxx...and can call ourselves pureblood... gives me strength. Bding pureblood equates with having a warrior heart.
Make sure to get life insurance
Pureblood+mudblood=day walker
I'd be concerned just getting close enough.
ill tell you what, im glad im in my 30s and not my 20s right now. I am keeping my f'in distance from these vaccinated women. Far away
Your screen name made me laugh my ass off and that's not easy to do...
its like what everyone sees, but no one addresses. His neckfat is the purple elephant in the room
There is no evidence that supports the idea that meaningful DNA alterations have taken place because of the vaccines. There is no biology that supports the idea either. There is no reason to suspect that the question in your title has a positive answer.
Having said that, not having an evidence yet doesn't mean none will ever come forth. However, the fact that known biology does not support the idea is a meaningful data point to guide decisions on the matter without further evidence to go on.
I was wondering about just practicing to have kids and not actually having the kids?
when I see a woman whos vaccinated, I am instantly turned off. I dont wanna stick my pipe in anyones vaccinated hooohaaa. Idk where the well of attractive conservative women are, but I never find any that are single. Im killing my bloodline, so its okay being alone. My bloodlines done enough we dont need to reproduce.
According to Aajonus Vonderplanitz the only one who knows anything about human health he says traditionally vaccines + cooked diet you should wait 2.5 years on the raw meat diet before even having kids to avoid physical malformations in birthing due to toxic womb, so given these vaccines seems to be like x500 deadlier Id say youd probly have to wait like 1250 years on the raw diet