“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace; and this single reflection, well applied, is sufficient to awaken every man to duty.”
Yes because the only true God is the Holy Trinity, God Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the truth is the only way to the Kingdom is through Jesus. Other religions have their traditions and beliefs but none can claim the true Messiah.
Jews are absolutely welcome here. Just don't be offended when people point out that the CEO of Phizer is Jewish and so are the CEO's of YouTube, Fakebook, 23andMe and the Attorney General, Epstein, Maxwell, etc...
Actually, as Jews, you should be appalled that these other Jews are part of the Cabal, yet remain in good standing with Jews, in general.
You’d think actual Jews would wanna finally carve out the same Canaanites that became the corrupt Pharisees and Sadducees. Moloch been fucking with the God of Abraham too long.
There is a distinguishment made by anons, I think, between people of Jewish faith who love God and their fellow man (like Dr. Zelenko) and satanists who have hidden themselves under the false cloak of Judaism in order to accomplish an evil agenda. Like you would find an any other large group of people, there are likely a small percentage of anons who are truly anti Jewish or anti _________.
The normie Christians (I fell into this group once) on the other hand are SO conditioned to be pro Jewish that they have become part of the problem in their inability to even question the activities and operations of high level "Jewish" operatives who have been stealing and transferring American technology secrets for decades.
The people involved in these operations are satanists. They are definitely NOT Jewish in their faith despite that they claim to be.
I believe the history indicates that these satanists are largely of eastern European descent, not "Hebrew" descent as Christians understand God's chosen people to be, and that after causing a lot of problems from their satanic practices in their Eastern European home region they were given the option to convert to Christianity, Islam or Judaism or to face permanent expulsion from the region where they lived. As the story goes, they chose Judaism as their "cover religion" but they never really converted.
I think the reason Q said they were saving Israel for last, if all this Q stuff is true and not just a well coordinated psy-op, is partly because operations to take down America and the western world are being directed by the leaders of the country of Israel and in order to do anything about it, normie Christian Americans must first be awakened to the reality that a sick group of satanists has infiltrated the Jewish faith and people.
This is a dangerous task, I think, in terms of both waking up a pretty low intelligence part of the population and also identifying actual enemies vs. creating hatred and mistrust toward an entire people group. However this all plays out, if the Q team are good guys I hope they get it right.
Yes, but Jesus is for everyone also, so why does this guy come in here insinuating that somehow us loving Jesus is stopping anyone from joining the awakening?
This is His battle however. The attack is directed against Christianity and a Christian lifestyle. Acknowledging that does not mean changing your religion.
I believe you are wrong there. I believe all "light" religions are under attack. Christianity, Buddism, Anyone whose Religion means becoming greater than ones self, being more aware of the world around them. Basically the cabal is trying to keep people in the dark, and in lower vibrational state. I believe they use Religion to do this also. I do not want to fight Christians, nor do I dislike, or hate them. We are all living beings, as long as we do right by eachother I dont care what your beliefs of Spirituality are. This is all I ever meant, and I believe Q meant this too. Look at the post says Churches_ houses of worship.......I take that o mean as in other Religions houses of Faith. We are all in this together, its the GREAT AWAKENING, not the Christian only awakening.
I agree that the light is under attack, and I get that a lot of Christian rhetoric is exclusive but taking away from the centrality of Christianity to this particular battle, at this time is a cabal type move, an attempt to control the narrative.
No not at all. The cabal believes it owns us all, and up until this point, in practice, they did. There has been resistance but always overwhelmed by the entrenched cabal. Arkancide is nothing new.
Along comes a 'self-organised collective', an alliance, which reaches a critical mass of resistors, a mass never achieved before but now with internet millions of 'citizen journalists' build and maintain that massive resistance.
These 'digital warriors' are all religions but what they have in common is a determination to rid the earth of evil. On their own, no one had made any progress but then came the soc, Q, Trump and the Patriots. The latter, largely responsible for the critical mass, are American and Christian. Jesus leads this army, He's got it together.
Light can be very diffuse and specific. Common terms are used for specific reasons and brevity.
All are welcome including non believerss. Let's not get so divisive please. It would be utterly evil if the collective "we" adopted some never ending acronym like LGBTX whatever for God to be sure everyone felt acknowledged.
Divided you pose no threat to their system of control.
There are several posts where Q says this or something similar. Ask yourself are we more alike than we are different? The DS and the Mockingbird Media spend a great deal of effort to make us believe we are too different to live in peace, all to keep us divided. Because divided we are weak.
We are all made in the image of God, as Christians we are taught that. If we can unite in the struggle to bring down the cabal what will we learn about each other if we are successful? What will we learn when the mockingbird media goes silent? Perhaps what President Trump was showing us, we can live in peace.
No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.
Pretty sure he's against secret societies that hide the light.
Jesus was an Essene. Essentially an outcast hippy. Early Christians used psychedelics. The masonic symbolism was perverted by the hardline "jews". Third Eye Opening is a good thing. Do not be afraid.
I tell people "It doesn't stop until normies are aware of it" and this neatly explains why everything is beyond stupid - it has to be this way to wake them up.
I also tell people I am very disappointing that is takes children dying to do it (but it will not be my kids)
I have a best friend, I clued him in, he still got the jab. I used to trek with him over the hills every weekend, now he tells me he is "getting old" and simply doesn't have the energy, seems to have a near constant cold. I told him not to, but they don't listen. Now I expect to lose him, hope I am wrong, but it takes death to wake some people.
I tell people "It doesn't stop until normies are aware of it" and this neatly explains why everything is beyond stupid - it has to be this way to wake them up.
True, yet I wonder if, the longer it goes on, the normies won't simply acclimate to the clownishness as it gradually ramps up, and accept it as the new normal about which nothing can be done, since look how far it's gone.
After all, otherwise intelligent people are walking around like zombie robots rebreathing their toxic CO2 breath and forcing their little kids to be psychologically damaged permanently by masking, in the utterly absurd belief that a thin flimsy cloth mask is stopping transmission of a virus they don't even have. There's never been anything so clinically insane that was adopted so universally by such a wide cross section of humanity.
This is how adaptible human beings are. They just get USED to shit.
We might want to maybe consider stopping the whole communism thing at some point, before it becomes an integrated or inevitable part of the country and we fall under absolute totalitarian control. Because that is where it's headed.
Hmm yes good point. I suppose I have gotten used to it myself a little bit, and my attitude ^ might have turned into a coping strategy. To think, I was expecting the punchline at Easter 2020, I can remember telling people this will be over by good Friday, by the election I was shaking my head everywhere I went, to watch Biden win was a long drop, then inauguration (surely that cannot happen), Easter again with churches closed, and now Christmas approaches and everyone has taken vaccines, including my best friend, who is now low level ill all the time. I might have gotten used to it, because previously there have been times I thought I would go mad. I can hardly work as it is. This is crazy. I haven't even worn a mask once. You're right it needs to end yesterday.
Me neither, except twice to the grocery store in the very first week. When I realized it's MAKING PEOPLE TOUCH THEIR EYES, NOSE AND MOUTH EVEN MORE, which is the opposite of what one ideally would be doing in an infectious environment (should that exist), I never wore it again. OH the looks and insults I bore. I wore each one as a badge of honor and liberty.
"There is a word used in religion: "FAITH". All religions of Abrahamn are FAITH based."
I understand you want this word to mean "blind" faith, but it is anything but. Biblical faith is a trust or belief based UPON the evidence - not in spite of it. This definition of faith is hammered out very clearly within the scriptures.
I, too, have degrees in Philosophy and Religious studies, and came to the conclusion that Orthodox Christianity corresponds to the nature of Reality better than any other world religion out there. Now what?
"No one can prove the existence of any deity from any religious book is actually related to God."
This statement is patently false. One can ascertain certain qualities regarding the nature of the Cause of the universe by simply studying the nature of the universe itself - without even breaching the Bible once.
Here's a quick example:
Space, Time, Matter and Energy are all related - IOW, you can't have one without the other (Einstein proved this).
STME all came into existence at a finite point in the past (Modern cosmology proves this - the universe is not Eternal)
Whatever comes into existence must have a cause. The STME universe came into existence.
Therefore, the STME universe has a cause. And, by definition, that cause must be outside of Space, outside of Time (i.e Eternal), outside of Matter (i.e immaterial), and EXTREMELY powerful in order to bring all the energy in the universe into existence. One could argue at this point that the cause must be extremely intelligent as well, given the highly complex nature of the universe.
At this point we are getting pretty damn close to the Judeo-Christian description of "God."
Is this a mathematical proof? No. But mathematical proof is not required in almost every other aspect of life either. This is, however, a good argument with strong scientific/philosophical underpinnings. One can take this argument further to show that this cause must be the Judeo-Christian God (i.e Personal), but we can hold off at this point here for simplicity's sake.
Dont forget, too, that the overwhelming majority of the scientists who layed down the foundation for scientific inquiry during the Scientific Revolution were Bible believing Christians who believed that "doing science" was simply thinking God's thoughts after Him. This core belief is was the motivating/driving factor behind their magnificent leaps in understanding the universe we live in.
"Did you know Schopenhauer and Hegel extensively borrowed from Eastern mysticism to build up Western philosophy?"
Yup. Sure did. And the word "extensively" is debatable.
"Really? That sounds like the description of every God. Outside of the Universe and in absolute control of it. yawn all you've proved is there is a First Cause, a Prime Mover."
The Cosmological Argument actually goes beyond the concepts of Prime Mover and First Cause. This is why Aquinas took Aristotle and baptized him.
You keep using the word "prove." But I think you need to define what you mean by that word. That word can be very slippery in discussions like this and gets equivocated on quite a bit. If you wish to continue this discussion, then please define what kind of "proof" you are referring to.
"Because they were born in Christian societies."
I was born into a society that taught me certain mathematical truths. That doesn't mean that what I was taught is false. Your argument fails to demonstrate what you are implying.
"Then you should already also know Buddhist monks were in Israel centuries before Christ was. The message of "love everyone", isn't even historically unique to Christ in that region. His message wasn't first of its kind, it was the one that received the masses though. Not only that, but according to Jews, Christ never fulfilled prophecy. Everything you will offer up as proof is questionable beside from the rational conclusions the Greeks and the Vedics came to thousands of years ago."
This is all a Red Herring.
"In your claim you imply because the Enlightenment was a significant period and those involved were Christian that Christianity is correct."
My point regarding the Scientific Revolution does not hinge upon Christianity being true or not. Just that the motivating factor for those scientists were Christian principles and Monotheistic rational thought.
"Absolute proof."
You don't have this in ANY other discipline other than Mathematics. You don't even live your life this way - requiring "absolute proof" for everything you do. Almost ALL of your beliefs and viewpoints should be thrown out on your own criteria.
"Any system which would have provided humans the peace they needed to scientifically inquire into reality would have led to the same results. That's why you see in world history various regions coming to power with periods of great scientific and mathematical progress."
You're missing the point here again, too. We're in agreeance that there were other regions advancing in scientific thought (China was probably #2 during the time), the question is WHY did the Europeans advance so high? When one digs into this, ones finds out it was because of the Christian principles of thought and inquiry that drove them to their unparalleled success - regardless of whether Christianity is true or not.
Good point. Yet I get 3 day bans if I dare question beliefs in here. Food for thought.
Also, what the hell is 'forum sliding'? They tacked that on to my list of charges that 'justified' my 3 days of no free speech, and I have no idea wtf it is, so I cannot stop doing what I don't know I'm even doing.
The mods over at P-win do that. Happened to me way back and still not sure what I did (either). Not seen that here, but like Kautilya said only doomers/shills & glowies get banned here.
I mean, the whole affair was wild. Like, I didn't understand why I got banned so I appealed the ban and was like "what about free speech frens?" and 45 minutes after I asked one mod came back and specified what rules they thought I'd broken (reasonable) then 2 minutes after that another mod perma-banned the account for 'whining about my temp ban'. I replied to that mod and went off on how much of a liberal ass censoring bitch they were, and if they thought a simple question was 'whining' they really should get out into the real world more. Someone then replied and thanked me for bringing it to their attention and reversed the perma-ban.
But my question is this - if they are being unreasonable, how do I share on here? All they have to do is ban me again and delete content, like they did last time. Maybe 3 people will see it, and then it will be business as usual.
Sure, I searched forum sliding, but it didn't make sense. I'm a little slow at times.
Now, interesting definition of free speech. I see lots of people crying about Facebook, etc. banning them as 'taking away their free speech' and more people agreeing with them that it is a violation. Is it only when you like the content that free speech is violated? Help me out here.
This sounds like trading one elite for another. I want power and I want the public to have and bear the weight of power. Everyone should be able to bear the weight if they are all sharing the power in running this country and educating themselves constantly.
There could be letters missing (den - 'they've hid(den)') unless 'they've hid' is commonly used, and there is a misspelling which results in a double entendre ('in mass' should be 'en masse') and could mean people waking up together and/or waking up in mass (in front of God). Was the latter picked up by researchers?
I'll die holding the line, for the alternative is a future I wish to not participate in.
It's a future I REFUSE to leave for my precious grandbabies.
Me too, I've been holding the line since before most knew there was one to hold.
Me too
Thomas Paine: The American Crisis
I stand beside you fren
We are all with you
What a great rejuvenating post. I will always hold the line knowing Jesus stands right behind me. There is no other way.
See Q never says this is a 100% Christian movement. Yall should keep that in mind when you go off about Jesus. He isn't everyone Deity :D:D
Idk why this is getting downvoted. The Awakening is for everyone
and yet... where are the Jews and Muslims on this board? In fact, every time I see a Jew or Muslim in the MSM, they are working against the us.
Is the Awakening actually a call to Christian beliefs and morals?
Yes because the only true God is the Holy Trinity, God Jesus and the Holy Spirit and the truth is the only way to the Kingdom is through Jesus. Other religions have their traditions and beliefs but none can claim the true Messiah.
Slow ur role. The holy trinity is a Roman catholic fable from 385 AD called the nicene creed. Enacted in the church by force.
JESES CHRIST IS NOT GOD. He is THE SON OF GOD.
One in purpose with the Father.
A Father and Son can not be the same except in purpose.
"There are three that bear record in heaven: the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one."
Yes
Jews are absolutely welcome here. Just don't be offended when people point out that the CEO of Phizer is Jewish and so are the CEO's of YouTube, Fakebook, 23andMe and the Attorney General, Epstein, Maxwell, etc...
Actually, as Jews, you should be appalled that these other Jews are part of the Cabal, yet remain in good standing with Jews, in general.
Truth
You’d think actual Jews would wanna finally carve out the same Canaanites that became the corrupt Pharisees and Sadducees. Moloch been fucking with the God of Abraham too long.
Get over yourself.
glowing brightly
There is a distinguishment made by anons, I think, between people of Jewish faith who love God and their fellow man (like Dr. Zelenko) and satanists who have hidden themselves under the false cloak of Judaism in order to accomplish an evil agenda. Like you would find an any other large group of people, there are likely a small percentage of anons who are truly anti Jewish or anti _________.
The normie Christians (I fell into this group once) on the other hand are SO conditioned to be pro Jewish that they have become part of the problem in their inability to even question the activities and operations of high level "Jewish" operatives who have been stealing and transferring American technology secrets for decades. The people involved in these operations are satanists. They are definitely NOT Jewish in their faith despite that they claim to be.
I believe the history indicates that these satanists are largely of eastern European descent, not "Hebrew" descent as Christians understand God's chosen people to be, and that after causing a lot of problems from their satanic practices in their Eastern European home region they were given the option to convert to Christianity, Islam or Judaism or to face permanent expulsion from the region where they lived. As the story goes, they chose Judaism as their "cover religion" but they never really converted.
I think the reason Q said they were saving Israel for last, if all this Q stuff is true and not just a well coordinated psy-op, is partly because operations to take down America and the western world are being directed by the leaders of the country of Israel and in order to do anything about it, normie Christian Americans must first be awakened to the reality that a sick group of satanists has infiltrated the Jewish faith and people.
This is a dangerous task, I think, in terms of both waking up a pretty low intelligence part of the population and also identifying actual enemies vs. creating hatred and mistrust toward an entire people group. However this all plays out, if the Q team are good guys I hope they get it right.
https://files.catbox.moe/prlsv7.mp4
Awakening is spiritual. Yku are still blind without it. There is a reason God preserves us.
Yes, but Jesus is for everyone also, so why does this guy come in here insinuating that somehow us loving Jesus is stopping anyone from joining the awakening?
Voice of Reason, God bless friend stay strong in this fight!
❤this exchange🐸
Doesn't matter. God is either at work or we lose. Take your pick.
This is His battle however. The attack is directed against Christianity and a Christian lifestyle. Acknowledging that does not mean changing your religion.
I believe you are wrong there. I believe all "light" religions are under attack. Christianity, Buddism, Anyone whose Religion means becoming greater than ones self, being more aware of the world around them. Basically the cabal is trying to keep people in the dark, and in lower vibrational state. I believe they use Religion to do this also. I do not want to fight Christians, nor do I dislike, or hate them. We are all living beings, as long as we do right by eachother I dont care what your beliefs of Spirituality are. This is all I ever meant, and I believe Q meant this too. Look at the post says Churches_ houses of worship.......I take that o mean as in other Religions houses of Faith. We are all in this together, its the GREAT AWAKENING, not the Christian only awakening.
Christ IS the only way. Period according to the Word of God
I agree that the light is under attack, and I get that a lot of Christian rhetoric is exclusive but taking away from the centrality of Christianity to this particular battle, at this time is a cabal type move, an attempt to control the narrative.
No not at all. The cabal believes it owns us all, and up until this point, in practice, they did. There has been resistance but always overwhelmed by the entrenched cabal. Arkancide is nothing new. Along comes a 'self-organised collective', an alliance, which reaches a critical mass of resistors, a mass never achieved before but now with internet millions of 'citizen journalists' build and maintain that massive resistance. These 'digital warriors' are all religions but what they have in common is a determination to rid the earth of evil. On their own, no one had made any progress but then came the soc, Q, Trump and the Patriots. The latter, largely responsible for the critical mass, are American and Christian. Jesus leads this army, He's got it together.
Light can be very diffuse and specific. Common terms are used for specific reasons and brevity.
All are welcome including non believerss. Let's not get so divisive please. It would be utterly evil if the collective "we" adopted some never ending acronym like LGBTX whatever for God to be sure everyone felt acknowledged.
FREEDOM WWG1WGA 🇱🇷
Divided you are weak.
Divided you fight each other.
Divided you pose no threat to their system of control.
There are several posts where Q says this or something similar. Ask yourself are we more alike than we are different? The DS and the Mockingbird Media spend a great deal of effort to make us believe we are too different to live in peace, all to keep us divided. Because divided we are weak.
We are all made in the image of God, as Christians we are taught that. If we can unite in the struggle to bring down the cabal what will we learn about each other if we are successful? What will we learn when the mockingbird media goes silent? Perhaps what President Trump was showing us, we can live in peace.
I haven't been blind since 1985. So patient is all I've been
I’ll never forget 2012 DNC removing God at Charlotte Convention;
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c3872932/user-clip-intolerant-godless-democrats-boo-inclusion-god-israel-party-platform
Me either, but many did. That was the wake up call right there
I was actually in Charlotte that night. It shoulda woke-up many, but it was seemingly ignored. Blew me away.
Third eye activation.
'when thine eye is single, the whole body is full of light'
-Jesus
Illumination.
So you are saying Jesus was a Freemason... just great.
Pretty sure he's against secret societies that hide the light.
Jesus was an Essene. Essentially an outcast hippy. Early Christians used psychedelics. The masonic symbolism was perverted by the hardline "jews". Third Eye Opening is a good thing. Do not be afraid.
😉☝🏼
You know not of what you speak. Better to be silent so we think you are a genius.
Not the application look up the greek
I tell people "It doesn't stop until normies are aware of it" and this neatly explains why everything is beyond stupid - it has to be this way to wake them up.
I also tell people I am very disappointing that is takes children dying to do it (but it will not be my kids)
I have a best friend, I clued him in, he still got the jab. I used to trek with him over the hills every weekend, now he tells me he is "getting old" and simply doesn't have the energy, seems to have a near constant cold. I told him not to, but they don't listen. Now I expect to lose him, hope I am wrong, but it takes death to wake some people.
True, yet I wonder if, the longer it goes on, the normies won't simply acclimate to the clownishness as it gradually ramps up, and accept it as the new normal about which nothing can be done, since look how far it's gone.
After all, otherwise intelligent people are walking around like zombie robots rebreathing their toxic CO2 breath and forcing their little kids to be psychologically damaged permanently by masking, in the utterly absurd belief that a thin flimsy cloth mask is stopping transmission of a virus they don't even have. There's never been anything so clinically insane that was adopted so universally by such a wide cross section of humanity.
This is how adaptible human beings are. They just get USED to shit.
We might want to maybe consider stopping the whole communism thing at some point, before it becomes an integrated or inevitable part of the country and we fall under absolute totalitarian control. Because that is where it's headed.
Hmm yes good point. I suppose I have gotten used to it myself a little bit, and my attitude ^ might have turned into a coping strategy. To think, I was expecting the punchline at Easter 2020, I can remember telling people this will be over by good Friday, by the election I was shaking my head everywhere I went, to watch Biden win was a long drop, then inauguration (surely that cannot happen), Easter again with churches closed, and now Christmas approaches and everyone has taken vaccines, including my best friend, who is now low level ill all the time. I might have gotten used to it, because previously there have been times I thought I would go mad. I can hardly work as it is. This is crazy. I haven't even worn a mask once. You're right it needs to end yesterday.
Me neither, except twice to the grocery store in the very first week. When I realized it's MAKING PEOPLE TOUCH THEIR EYES, NOSE AND MOUTH EVEN MORE, which is the opposite of what one ideally would be doing in an infectious environment (should that exist), I never wore it again. OH the looks and insults I bore. I wore each one as a badge of honor and liberty.
"There is a word used in religion: "FAITH". All religions of Abrahamn are FAITH based."
I understand you want this word to mean "blind" faith, but it is anything but. Biblical faith is a trust or belief based UPON the evidence - not in spite of it. This definition of faith is hammered out very clearly within the scriptures.
I, too, have degrees in Philosophy and Religious studies, and came to the conclusion that Orthodox Christianity corresponds to the nature of Reality better than any other world religion out there. Now what?
"No one can prove the existence of any deity from any religious book is actually related to God."
This statement is patently false. One can ascertain certain qualities regarding the nature of the Cause of the universe by simply studying the nature of the universe itself - without even breaching the Bible once.
Here's a quick example:
Space, Time, Matter and Energy are all related - IOW, you can't have one without the other (Einstein proved this).
STME all came into existence at a finite point in the past (Modern cosmology proves this - the universe is not Eternal)
Whatever comes into existence must have a cause. The STME universe came into existence.
Therefore, the STME universe has a cause. And, by definition, that cause must be outside of Space, outside of Time (i.e Eternal), outside of Matter (i.e immaterial), and EXTREMELY powerful in order to bring all the energy in the universe into existence. One could argue at this point that the cause must be extremely intelligent as well, given the highly complex nature of the universe.
At this point we are getting pretty damn close to the Judeo-Christian description of "God."
Is this a mathematical proof? No. But mathematical proof is not required in almost every other aspect of life either. This is, however, a good argument with strong scientific/philosophical underpinnings. One can take this argument further to show that this cause must be the Judeo-Christian God (i.e Personal), but we can hold off at this point here for simplicity's sake.
Dont forget, too, that the overwhelming majority of the scientists who layed down the foundation for scientific inquiry during the Scientific Revolution were Bible believing Christians who believed that "doing science" was simply thinking God's thoughts after Him. This core belief is was the motivating/driving factor behind their magnificent leaps in understanding the universe we live in.
I digress....
"Did you know Schopenhauer and Hegel extensively borrowed from Eastern mysticism to build up Western philosophy?"
Yup. Sure did. And the word "extensively" is debatable.
"Really? That sounds like the description of every God. Outside of the Universe and in absolute control of it. yawn all you've proved is there is a First Cause, a Prime Mover."
The Cosmological Argument actually goes beyond the concepts of Prime Mover and First Cause. This is why Aquinas took Aristotle and baptized him.
You keep using the word "prove." But I think you need to define what you mean by that word. That word can be very slippery in discussions like this and gets equivocated on quite a bit. If you wish to continue this discussion, then please define what kind of "proof" you are referring to.
"Because they were born in Christian societies."
I was born into a society that taught me certain mathematical truths. That doesn't mean that what I was taught is false. Your argument fails to demonstrate what you are implying.
"Then you should already also know Buddhist monks were in Israel centuries before Christ was. The message of "love everyone", isn't even historically unique to Christ in that region. His message wasn't first of its kind, it was the one that received the masses though. Not only that, but according to Jews, Christ never fulfilled prophecy. Everything you will offer up as proof is questionable beside from the rational conclusions the Greeks and the Vedics came to thousands of years ago."
This is all a Red Herring.
"In your claim you imply because the Enlightenment was a significant period and those involved were Christian that Christianity is correct."
My point regarding the Scientific Revolution does not hinge upon Christianity being true or not. Just that the motivating factor for those scientists were Christian principles and Monotheistic rational thought.
"Absolute proof."
You don't have this in ANY other discipline other than Mathematics. You don't even live your life this way - requiring "absolute proof" for everything you do. Almost ALL of your beliefs and viewpoints should be thrown out on your own criteria.
"Any system which would have provided humans the peace they needed to scientifically inquire into reality would have led to the same results. That's why you see in world history various regions coming to power with periods of great scientific and mathematical progress."
You're missing the point here again, too. We're in agreeance that there were other regions advancing in scientific thought (China was probably #2 during the time), the question is WHY did the Europeans advance so high? When one digs into this, ones finds out it was because of the Christian principles of thought and inquiry that drove them to their unparalleled success - regardless of whether Christianity is true or not.
"...I'm rambling"
Whelp, at least we agree on this point.
Good point. Yet I get 3 day bans if I dare question beliefs in here. Food for thought.
Also, what the hell is 'forum sliding'? They tacked that on to my list of charges that 'justified' my 3 days of no free speech, and I have no idea wtf it is, so I cannot stop doing what I don't know I'm even doing.
But I've never created a thread? I just reply to ones that already exist, and just pick the ones at the top of the 'new' list.
The mods over at P-win do that. Happened to me way back and still not sure what I did (either). Not seen that here, but like Kautilya said only doomers/shills & glowies get banned here.
I mean, the whole affair was wild. Like, I didn't understand why I got banned so I appealed the ban and was like "what about free speech frens?" and 45 minutes after I asked one mod came back and specified what rules they thought I'd broken (reasonable) then 2 minutes after that another mod perma-banned the account for 'whining about my temp ban'. I replied to that mod and went off on how much of a liberal ass censoring bitch they were, and if they thought a simple question was 'whining' they really should get out into the real world more. Someone then replied and thanked me for bringing it to their attention and reversed the perma-ban.
But my question is this - if they are being unreasonable, how do I share on here? All they have to do is ban me again and delete content, like they did last time. Maybe 3 people will see it, and then it will be business as usual.
Yes but you still had free speech for those 3 days, just not posting privileges on a single website out of billions on the internet.
And did you try entering 'forum sliding' into any search engine?
Sure, I searched forum sliding, but it didn't make sense. I'm a little slow at times.
Now, interesting definition of free speech. I see lots of people crying about Facebook, etc. banning them as 'taking away their free speech' and more people agreeing with them that it is a violation. Is it only when you like the content that free speech is violated? Help me out here.
"Standfast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has set you free and be not entangled again in the yoke of bondage." BIBLE.
This sounds like trading one elite for another. I want power and I want the public to have and bear the weight of power. Everyone should be able to bear the weight if they are all sharing the power in running this country and educating themselves constantly.
HOLD THE WINE!
There could be letters missing (den - 'they've hid(den)') unless 'they've hid' is commonly used, and there is a misspelling which results in a double entendre ('in mass' should be 'en masse') and could mean people waking up together and/or waking up in mass (in front of God). Was the latter picked up by researchers?
Jesus was an Essene (essence) or basically Buddhist.
Jesus was a Master Mason in in the sense that he taught the gospel that the kingdom of heaven was within, not out.
Since the body is the temple, he knew and taught how to BUILD the temple.
He was PLVS VLTRA.
Who else is?