Good! Well they just had their new contracts and their next contract isn't until 2025. If they negotiate a new contract before then the members would have to vote. This is at least, something. Guess we'll see what happens. Really glad to hear this.
My husband used to work for the railroad, that's why this caught my eye. They violate union contracts all the time without any recourse, that's how he lost his job, when he was supposed to have x days of notice or get paid for x days he didn't get notice, he was laid off with literally a 1/2 hour notice and got jack shit for it. He went to their arbitration, where the person overseeing and deciding the arbitration works for CSXT, no conflict of interest there (/s). It should be interesting to see if they find their balls this time around.
Agreed, fren. I couldn't believe the shit they pulled with my husband. And honestly, the last (2nd) time he got laid off from there, he went back to his former industry and got happier in general almost overnight. He was always miserable there, now he loves what he does. And he makes a lot more money now. He's better off. At least his boss now appreciates him and shows it. It was through his experience with CSX that I realized why people say you get "railroaded" when you get screwed over - they exemplify that term.
Yeah that was my first thought to be honest because....yeah... exactly. That's how it goes in reality. But.... I'm still holding out a bit of hope. If this goes viral, and they get a ton of support then maybe their negotiations will get more of a spotlight, more eyes on means more backlash when they cave for the $$. I mean, again, at least it's something. A start maybe.
As a Union member that doesn’t vote Democrat, I can say there seems to be a lot of support wavering. Now after Biden’s train wreck of an administration, Union employees seem to be waking up faster than the general public. The Keystone pipeline was enough to wake them up.
Yeah hopefully this isn't just a money grab for them. "Give us more money in our contracts and we'll get vaxxed." Just a way to lean on big corp. Praying they stand true.
Democrats abandoned the Unions long ago. The sole reason why they moved manufacturing overseas, particularly China, was to kill off unions, and it almost worked. The problem is we still have hundreds of industries China still can't compete with even with devaluing their currency and enslaving their people further inland. Sorry, but when you enslave someone, the quality of their work isn't going to be that great. We've learned this a hundred years ago, and the real reason why slavery was abolished all over the world.
The letter isn't speaking for Roy Davis, the letter is speaking for the ORGANIZATION. Reading really is fundamental. Comprehension, even more so. Good luck with that.
I totally agree, my brother is the same way. He got the vaxx because both his wife and son have lung cancer and them getting covid would be devastating and they can't get the vaxx themselves so he did it. But, he tells everyone to make their own choices.
Roy Davis is not like that though, Davis has been bullying people to get vaxxed for months. He is only doing this as a negotiation tactic. He's the worst kind of Paytriot.
There were no more negotiations. They just signed a new contract not too long ago. The next contract is in 2025. There would have to be a whole new vote by members on any changes to this current contract.
All of it? They didn't just sign a new contract recently? I'm wrong about the next contract isn't until 2025? If they change the contract, the members don't vote on it? Which part?
If I'm wrong about something, I'd like to know what it is, instead of just "you're wrong!". Just tell me so I can get my facts straight.
Like flame on parchment, our Human collective is realizing the power of Unity. Our entire existence in the US, even from infanthood, is directed towards independence. For those of us who are youngest among our siblings, we may have been tasked with (practically) raising ourselves. The rest of the family was likely busy with managing their own lives, and we had to figure it out ourselves. Not the easiest of journeys, but certainly one filled with opportunity to expand consciousness and to learn compassion. It's been a long road, but I truly understand now (with the help of Q and frankly every pede here) that we need one another. We absolutely are all in this together...including those who were more susceptible to the conditioning and poisoning, for whatever reason.
We apparently needed this brick to the face to get that it's time to talk to one another and find common ground. This is the very last thing that team dark wants to see happen, yet here we are witnessing it exactly.
Hooray for Us! Gratitude and Blessings for all of you in here.
Unions can finally bring us to good instead of the commie BS they largely have been pumping for so long.
THIS could be a definite positive for unions. Personally, my father is an extremely hard working electrician who worked his way up to foreman without having had a high school degree.
The union made sure we all have Healthcare growing up u Der him, that he could put my brothers and I through college, own his home and one in Spain, take me to see my family in Eutope every summer growing up, and have more than I can imagine on savings.
People say non union pays as much, all the non union laborers where I live make a fraction of what union pulls in and no benefits. My father's generation of countrymen who came to the US in the 80s were all broke hard workers who grinded in union jobs and either rose through ranks or started their own companies and hired their own men.
They are all conservatives having left a post dictatorship nation stricken with poverty where if you wanted something done you did it yourself.
I don't like where this is going, the unions are involved and they are controlled by the globos, if they wanted to take a stand they should all just not get the shot and keep showing up to work until they are fired (which won't happen)
By going on strike or demonstrating or " negotiating" they are giving an excuse to blame the economy crash (which was baked in years and years ago) on the "scary anti vax terrorists" and they are taking the responsibility away from the individual workers.
Aahhh...drenched in SAUCE 😁
I always wondered about sand and where so much of it came from.
The sandman collects it from liberal tears?
They cry with aggregate?
Yes! Lol
and sticks it in liberal craws?
Mines unless your near china.place in dakota hundred mesh comes out doth have to work it a bit other than the drying.
I don't imagine that petey plugs(B) will have much sway over them.
Apparently Petey has not been working...
So sign that he ever actually worked.
I thought I was the only one that called him Pete Bootie-plug 😂
no I missed that..
2 leaky assed men will NEVER be good enough as parents! God’s Order or CHAOS
Good! Well they just had their new contracts and their next contract isn't until 2025. If they negotiate a new contract before then the members would have to vote. This is at least, something. Guess we'll see what happens. Really glad to hear this.
Something like a forced vaccination would typically be change of operations and would trigger negotiations.
My husband used to work for the railroad, that's why this caught my eye. They violate union contracts all the time without any recourse, that's how he lost his job, when he was supposed to have x days of notice or get paid for x days he didn't get notice, he was laid off with literally a 1/2 hour notice and got jack shit for it. He went to their arbitration, where the person overseeing and deciding the arbitration works for CSXT, no conflict of interest there (/s). It should be interesting to see if they find their balls this time around.
Union members would have to come together and decide to not show up if there is a vax mandate.
Csx is the most evil bunch of fuckers in the country.
Agreed, fren. I couldn't believe the shit they pulled with my husband. And honestly, the last (2nd) time he got laid off from there, he went back to his former industry and got happier in general almost overnight. He was always miserable there, now he loves what he does. And he makes a lot more money now. He's better off. At least his boss now appreciates him and shows it. It was through his experience with CSX that I realized why people say you get "railroaded" when you get screwed over - they exemplify that term.
Yeah that was my first thought to be honest because....yeah... exactly. That's how it goes in reality. But.... I'm still holding out a bit of hope. If this goes viral, and they get a ton of support then maybe their negotiations will get more of a spotlight, more eyes on means more backlash when they cave for the $$. I mean, again, at least it's something. A start maybe.
I never thought I'd say this, but the Unions may be the ones to save the country... the key point about them that is working... they are ORGANIZED.
As long as we are on the same side, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Until they stop blindly voting democrat, there'll never help us.
The big contract circle jerk... Vote democrat and we'll give you all the work!
Give us all the work and we'll vote democrat!
Rinse and repeat
As a Union member that doesn’t vote Democrat, I can say there seems to be a lot of support wavering. Now after Biden’s train wreck of an administration, Union employees seem to be waking up faster than the general public. The Keystone pipeline was enough to wake them up.
I hope so
When I was Union it was really bad politically
Leadership still tries to push Dem politics, but membership is pulling away quickly.
Both parties fuck us what do you expect
A lot of trade union members that I know are not Dem or lib...quite conservative.
EXACTLY!
Yeah hopefully this isn't just a money grab for them. "Give us more money in our contracts and we'll get vaxxed." Just a way to lean on big corp. Praying they stand true.
Democrats abandoned the Unions long ago. The sole reason why they moved manufacturing overseas, particularly China, was to kill off unions, and it almost worked. The problem is we still have hundreds of industries China still can't compete with even with devaluing their currency and enslaving their people further inland. Sorry, but when you enslave someone, the quality of their work isn't going to be that great. We've learned this a hundred years ago, and the real reason why slavery was abolished all over the world.
So, I work with a lot of these folks, I'm in supply chain. This is a pretty bad misreading of what the letter is saying.
SMART is using the push for a mandate as a way to push the negotiations they already had in place.
Roy Davis IS NOT anti-vaxx. He himself is vaccinated and has told others to get the shot in the past.
The letter isn't speaking for Roy Davis, the letter is speaking for the ORGANIZATION. Reading really is fundamental. Comprehension, even more so. Good luck with that.
This letter is signed by Roy Davis, maybe read to the bottom before speaking out of your ass.
Not all anti-vax mandate advocates are anti-vax. Many have decided to get it. They just don't support forcing others to get it.
I totally agree, my brother is the same way. He got the vaxx because both his wife and son have lung cancer and them getting covid would be devastating and they can't get the vaxx themselves so he did it. But, he tells everyone to make their own choices.
Roy Davis is not like that though, Davis has been bullying people to get vaxxed for months. He is only doing this as a negotiation tactic. He's the worst kind of Paytriot.
There were no more negotiations. They just signed a new contract not too long ago. The next contract is in 2025. There would have to be a whole new vote by members on any changes to this current contract.
That's not actually correct.
oh, which part?
Literally all of it.
All of it? They didn't just sign a new contract recently? I'm wrong about the next contract isn't until 2025? If they change the contract, the members don't vote on it? Which part?
If I'm wrong about something, I'd like to know what it is, instead of just "you're wrong!". Just tell me so I can get my facts straight.
All of the above.
Ok right. Just like I figured. YOU are the one who doesn't know what you're talking about.
This is good news. Other unions need to join! We the people are the government. We the people are commerce and the economy.
Where will they find enough national guard to replace all these people, doctors, nurses, police, teachers, etc?
And when [they] refuse to negotiate? What will this Roy Davis do then? Capitulate, or double down?
As much sheet metal as we use at work, looks like things are about to get interesting to say the least!
Union up
I thought it read huge movie. I was thinking where is this great plot found?
Stand Your Ground!!! :) This is what Winning looks like.
Awesome!!! 😍
Like flame on parchment, our Human collective is realizing the power of Unity. Our entire existence in the US, even from infanthood, is directed towards independence. For those of us who are youngest among our siblings, we may have been tasked with (practically) raising ourselves. The rest of the family was likely busy with managing their own lives, and we had to figure it out ourselves. Not the easiest of journeys, but certainly one filled with opportunity to expand consciousness and to learn compassion. It's been a long road, but I truly understand now (with the help of Q and frankly every pede here) that we need one another. We absolutely are all in this together...including those who were more susceptible to the conditioning and poisoning, for whatever reason. We apparently needed this brick to the face to get that it's time to talk to one another and find common ground. This is the very last thing that team dark wants to see happen, yet here we are witnessing it exactly. Hooray for Us! Gratitude and Blessings for all of you in here.
Good, now stand against communism and close the stupid unions.
How does Warren Buffet feel about this, I wonder?
Good.
Refuse to comply.
Unions can finally bring us to good instead of the commie BS they largely have been pumping for so long.
THIS could be a definite positive for unions. Personally, my father is an extremely hard working electrician who worked his way up to foreman without having had a high school degree.
The union made sure we all have Healthcare growing up u Der him, that he could put my brothers and I through college, own his home and one in Spain, take me to see my family in Eutope every summer growing up, and have more than I can imagine on savings.
People say non union pays as much, all the non union laborers where I live make a fraction of what union pulls in and no benefits. My father's generation of countrymen who came to the US in the 80s were all broke hard workers who grinded in union jobs and either rose through ranks or started their own companies and hired their own men.
They are all conservatives having left a post dictatorship nation stricken with poverty where if you wanted something done you did it yourself.
I have a soft spot for some unions.
So maybe some of the unions aren't totally crooked. Honesty happens in the strangest places.
I don't like where this is going, the unions are involved and they are controlled by the globos, if they wanted to take a stand they should all just not get the shot and keep showing up to work until they are fired (which won't happen) By going on strike or demonstrating or " negotiating" they are giving an excuse to blame the economy crash (which was baked in years and years ago) on the "scary anti vax terrorists" and they are taking the responsibility away from the individual workers.